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Kochiya Sanae
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年3月9日 at 12:23:15

Artist: Lily
Title: Chloe
Source: seleP
Tags: SnowWhite Neethime hvick225 Vocaloid
BPM: 125
Filesize: 6346kb
Play Time: 02:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.55 stars, 117 notes)
  2. Hard (4.75 stars, 386 notes)
  3. Neet's Normal (2.84 stars, 152 notes)
  4. Snow (5 stars, 657 notes)
Download: Lily - Chloe
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first map
plz redownload

snow is awesome!!!
snowwhite is moe moe=w=
thanks lovhin456's skin
Neethime
8-)
lovhin456
Hi ~

Skin;
- Umm, making the hits invisible isn't a good idea :/ Use these instead ?? ... I actually made more skin elements LOL
http://www.mediafire.com/?54jwcvq513l7oke

General;
- Use this colors ??
Combo1 : 252,153,20
Combo2 : 202,11,11
Combo3 : 231,216,114
- Set a preview point, it has to be the same on all diff.
- Consider cutting the song if you're not going to map it all.
- The mp3 you have is 320, you need or that is lower than that, use this one http://www.mediafire.com/?p5jpq0ydg75avc6 ?? Offset may change, so check that.

Easy;
- Are those little kiai fountains necessary ?? Take them out, and put a proper kiai time.
1st kiai time: 00:15:360 ~ 00:29:760
2nd kiai time: 01:05:280 ~ 01:27:840
3rd kiai time: 01:28:320 ~ 01:35:520
4th kiai time: 03:02:400 (not really a kiai time, maybe just add a kiai fountain here ??)
5th kiai time: 03:25:440 ~ 03:40:800
6th kiai time: 03:56:160 (not really a kiai time, maybe just add a kiai fountain here ??)
7th kiai time: 04:03:840 (^)
Probably is better is you use these kiai times in all diff.
- Beats are well placed on the timeline but not on the play field, try to make your sliders well curved by doing symmetrical slider points, also some sliders/notes overlap others and that looks bad.
- Work on hitsounds, they are okk at this point but you need to create a pattern.

Neet's Normal;
- Beat are well placed, both timeline and play field, but your could curve the sliders better
- Use whistles, not just claps.
- Use the kiai time I put in Easy ??

Hard;

- 01:22:560 >> make this a curved slider
- Could use more whistles ~
- Beats are well placed on the timeline but not on the play field, try to make your sliders well curved by doing symmetrical slider points and some jumps don't fit ...

Insane;
- Beats are well placed on the timeline but not on the play field, try to make your sliders well curved by doing symmetrical slider points and some jumps don't fit ...
- Use the kiai time I put in Easy ??
- 00:19:200 >> new combo then remove new combo on next beat
- 00:44:160 >> new combo
- 01:14:400 >> ^
- 01:19:920 >> remove new combo
- 02:39:360 ~ 02:47:040 >> why isn't this part with soft hitsounds ??
- Hitsounds can't change on a note, I think they have to be 1/4 before a note if you want to change the sound from soft to normal or normal to soft, not sure ...
- You have some not necessary timing sections ...

* Ummm, I will recheck I guess, for now, no star, but I will check from time to time this map :3
Topic Starter
Kochiya Sanae
thanks your skin and song :D
I change the colors and some mods
but I dont think jumps dont fit :(
I need more mods :)
ZHSteven
star first~~
later when i get time and can i impove my skills, i will mod~XD
Kagamine_Rin__old
触手泥嚎
Kami
star!
[Hououinn_Kyouma]
比利海林顿
Aria
:)
zj91123
:lol: 给S欧尼酱个星星
CarlJohnson
森之妖精
Neethime
[Easy]

Easy里还是不要遮眼为好,比如00:15:360 (1) - 遮挡了00:17:280 (1) - ,00:18:000 (2) - 遮挡了00:20:160 (2) -
00:27:360 (6) - new combo?

[Hard]

00:58:560 (4) - 从前面的蓝线开始?
02:11:520 (3) - ^
02:12:120 (4) - 从后面的红线开始?

Collab貌似还未完成就先偷懒了…

;) 图还是挺不错的,我能想到的就只有这么多…

Normal加了些音效

Download: Lily - Chloe (Nubyo) [Neet's Normal].osu
LesTrucsRoses
[Neet's normal]
SPOILER
00:36:480 (3) - Extend by 1 tick on 1/4 Beatsnap. Don't let it repeat.
00:37:920 (4) - Add a beat here.
00:41:160 (2) - Move back by 1 tick on 1/4 beatsnap. Extend by 1 tick on 1/4 beatsnap.
00:45:000 (2) - Move forward by 1 tick on 1/4 beatsnap.
00:45:360 (3) - Delete this beat.

00:51:840 (1) - Add the finish hitsound to the first beat in this slider.
01:00:240 (2) - Add a beat here.
01:00:720 (3) - Move this slider forward by 2 ticks. Do not repeat.
01:01:440 (4) - Add a beat here. Finish hitsound.
01:01:800 (5) - Add a beat here. Finish hitsound.
01:02:160 (6) - Add a beat here. Finish hitsound.


[The map needs more work. incomplete mod.]

[Hard]
SPOILER
00:09:600 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is a "hard" and there are beats on every other beat from the music. Add more notes.
00:40:800 (3) - Shorten by 1 tick on 1/4 beatsnap.
00:41:160 (4) - Move back by 1 tick on 1/4 beatsnap. Then, extend by 1 tick.

01:14:880 (5,6) - Can't tell which slider goes up or down. Don't overlap like this.
01:36:720 (4) - Add the whistle hitsound to the first beat in this slider.

[Collab]
SPOILER
00:00:720 (1) - New combo.
00:14:160 (4,5,6,7) - These jumps are too extreme.
00:16:200 (3) - Add a beat here.
00:32:640 - Starting here, make the hitsounds Soft. (Leave it and it should end at 01:03:420)
Topic Starter
Kochiya Sanae

Neethime wrote:

[Easy]

Easy里还是不要遮眼为好,比如00:15:360 (1) - 遮挡了00:17:280 (1) - ,00:18:000 (2) - 遮挡了00:20:160 (2) -
00:27:360 (6) - new combo? all fixed

[Hard]

00:58:560 (4) - 从前面的蓝线开始?
02:11:520 (3) - ^
02:12:120 (4) - 从后面的红线开始? all fixed

Collab貌似还未完成就先偷懒了… collab is finished :(

;) 图还是挺不错的,我能想到的就只有这么多…

Normal加了些音效
Topic Starter
Kochiya Sanae

LesTrucsRose wrote:

[Hard]00:09:600 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is a "hard" and there are beats on every other beat from the music. Add more notes.
00:40:800 (3) - Shorten by 1 tick on 1/4 beatsnap. X
00:41:160 (4) - Move back by 1 tick on 1/4 beatsnap. Then, extend by 1 tick X
01:14:880 (5,6) - Can't tell which slider goes up or down. Don't overlap like this. fixed
01:36:720 (4) - Add the whistle hitsound to the first beat in this slider. fixed

[Collab]00:00:720 (1) - New combo.
00:14:160 (4,5,6,7) - These jumps are too extreme. becuz its insane? :D
00:16:200 (3) - Add a beat here. fixed
00:32:640 - Starting here, make the hitsounds Soft. (Leave it and it should end at 01:03:420) fixed
Leorda
NI HAO

[General]
1) Your spinner background is really ugly and Lily is flat, lol. Try this skin, you'll be like it and I already resize your BG (the BG is maximum is 1024x768)

Skin and BG

  1. Download Skin and BG.rar
  2. Extract into your beatmap song folder (Example you extract this into C:osuSongsChloe)
  3. Enjoy and do a Full Submit
2) Your offset in bitttt bit bit bit late, turn offset to 5, and resnap all notes
3) Source : Vocaloid 2

[Easy]
Please map it until the end of song

00:18:000 (2) - Don't place at red tick, because it's very difficult for new player
00:30:720 (1,1) - This object is too far from spinner, it's very difficult for new player
02:04:800 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern are very difficult for new player


[Neet's Normal]
Please map it until the end of song

00:46:080 (5) - Should new combo, since the pattern are changed
00:50:400 (5) - ^

01:07:200 (4) - New combo?
01:11:040 (4) - Should new combo, since the pattern are changed
01:19:200 (4) - ^
01:25:920 (3) - ^

01:51:360 (x) - Add note?

[Hard]
Please map it until the end of song

00:13:920 (3) - Move 1 grid right?
00:21:120 (4) - Must new combo, because the pattern are changed
00:34:320 (4) - Not stack perfectly with 00:33:600 (3)
00:38:400 (5) - Must new combo, because the pattern are changed
01:08:160 (4,5) - Don't make a jump in one combo, otherwise the player will get surpised
01:14:880 (5) - Must new combo, because the pattern are changed
01:26:400 (5) - ^
01:58:080 (3) - Ugly slider
02:16:320 (5) - Must new combo, because the pattern are changed
02:43:680 (3) - ^
02:45:120 (5) - ^
03:06:960 (2) - Find another place, if the repeating slider is overlapped by previous slider, the repeating slider is completly hidden
03:14:640 (2) - ^
03:15:840 (5) - Must new combo, because the pattern are changed


[Collab]
Please map it until the end of song

00:13:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Ugly pattern and confusing
00:21:120 (5) - New combo, since the pattern are changed
00:25:680 (2) - ^
00:46:080 (6) - ^

00:57:840 (4) - Move 1 grid up?
01:22:560 (4) - New combo, since the pattern are changed
01:30:000 (4) - ^
01:33:600 (3) - ^
02:08:880 (6) - ^
02:15:840 (4) - This object is hidden
02:48:960 (10) - New combo, since the pattern are changed


Great song
STAR
Topic Starter
Kochiya Sanae
thanks Leorda~ all fixed :)
anonymous_old
@@ hi
wmfchris
[Collab]
0:05:285 (3,4,5) spacing
1:16:325 (4) right+down 1 grid
1:30:965 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) uneven spacing
2:42:965 (1,2,3) ^
3:03:845 (3,4,5) spacing too large

[hard]
0:57:845 (1) up 1 grid

nice arrangement, moe BG, star~
miku
神mapper加油 :)
Topic Starter
Kochiya Sanae
thanks chirs and your kds star :D
gowww
8-)
78AZAZ
I love this song and this map.STAR~!
lovhin456
Replace spinner-approach circle for this one
+ Star ~
and don't kudosu this post ~
Topic Starter
Kochiya Sanae
thanks:3
Kotone
Easy
00:23:045(1)-1 grid up
00:24:005(3)-1 grid right

Neet's Normal
so pro

Hard
00:12:605(5)-slider末端 no clap,好吵
01:01:205(3)-shorten to the front red line
Hard和Collab沒看完...不過好累...明天再mod
no KD this post

(19/9 EDIT)
01:36:725(4) - 1 grid right

Collab
01:08:885(10) - 1 grid left?
03:16:565(4) - 1 grid right
other OK for me
Topic Starter
Kochiya Sanae
all fixed ,and I dont wanna map all the map lol
Aria
i guess finish at that time point is okay/
Derekku
[General]
*What is hit50k.png for? Remove it from the folder and full submit.
*Remove the empty .osb from your folder before submitting as well.
*You have score numbers, but you're missing score-x, score-percent, and score-dot.
*Also, you could always copy the 0-9 numbers and use them as the default hitcircle numbers. :p
*That's a hmm... trippy sliderball. :v
*Actually, Collab is the only diff that really needs an audio lead-in since it starts right at the beginning of the mp3. Although, the other three diffs sound strange without it, so how about keep 2 seconds on Collab, but 0.5 seconds for the other three diffs?
*"Vocaloid 2" is not a source. The creator, seleP, should be listed as the source to stay consistent with other ranked Vocaloid maps. You can add Vocaloid (and Vocaloid2, if you'd like) to the tags instead.
*Kiai doesn't end in the same spot in each difficulty, and sometimes isn't snapped to the white tick in some difficulties, but I really don't need to nazi things like that.
*20% of the mp3 isn't being used, but I wouldn't bother cropping it (especially since it would probably sound strange doing so and really wouldn't save much space in the folder).
*Expected longer kiai sections for the choruses, but oh well.
*Why do you have so many inherited sections in the first kiai section? They all seem to be the same sampleset and volume, so they look useless??
*Background would look better without the "Background & Music By sele" if you can crop it out (if you care).
*You could add a single kiai fountain to the last note of each difficulty for a nicer fade-out effect (since the song goes on much longer than the maps do).

[Easy]
*Difficulty settings are a bit low, even for an easy. Raise the Approach Rate and Overall Difficulty one or two ticks each, and raise the drain one tick.
01:14:885 (3,4) - This is hard to read, especially since most notes in this diff (that are stacked under sliders) are on the next white tick instead of a red tick. If you could unstack and it make this look more like 01:03:365 (1,1) I think it would be much easier.
01:28:325 (1) - This is a bit close (in time) after the spinner. Not to mention that the red spinner approach circle and the red slider approach circle look very confusing together. Perhaps try something like this:

*I extended the spinner by one white tick and removed slider (1). (The kiai starts on the end of the spinner and leaves some time afterwards for the player to properly regain their control of the cursor)
*Ends in an awkward spot. Could you map this at least up until where Normal ends? (~30 more seconds)

[Neet's Normal]
*Have you thought about tickrate 2 instead of 1? o:
01:05:285 (1) - A bit far from the center of the spinner.
01:51:365 (1,1,1,1) - Expected something more exciting here.
02:07:205 (1) - Again, a bit far from the center.

[Hard]
*Raise the Overall Difficulty one or two ticks (it's too low).
00:43:445 (7) - (nazi) move this down or over a grid so it doesn't look like its attached to (6)
00:47:525 (4,1) - it's a bit hard to read this overlap (let alone notice that they're 1/4th beats)
01:00:965 (3,4) - (4) should NOT be overlapped like this (since it's 1/2 spacing between the two)
01:27:845 (6) - shouldn't be overlapping (1,2)
01:42:005 (7) - don't overlap (1)
01:43:685 - expected a note here
02:35:285 (5,6) - this is Unrankable. You can't see 6's repeat due to 5's hitburst (100/300/etc). Plus, it's a bit hard to tell which is the note and which is the slider to begin with, so fix this so that they don't overlap/stack.
02:53:045 (5) - didn't notice that this was a "hold" slider at first. I suppose it's fine (and rankable), but orz
03:03:845 (3) - rotate this so that it doesn't overlap (4) Overlaps like this make it look like there's an extra repeat (which is confusing)
03:23:045 (3) - ^
03:23:525 (4) - ^
03:24:005 (5) - is fine since there's an extra repeat linking to (6)
*The difficulty jump from Normal to Hard is a bit high, as can be seen by the difficult jumps/patterns/repeating sliders used throughout this difficulty. I suppose it's fine, though.

[Collab]
*Raise the overall difficulty like... 2 ticks and the drain 1 tick.
*This isn't exactly a guest diff, so shouldn't it have the third kiai section like Hard?
00:06:965 (5,1) - these should really be overlapping
01:03:365 (1) - this really shouldn't end on the blue tick before the next note. I suggest shortening it to the red tick.
01:18:245 (3) - it's really hard to see that this is a slider under (2)
01:23:525 (5,1) - I couldn't tell that these were 1/4th spaced apart due to the strange overlapping
01:47:285 - expected a note here
01:47:525 (1) - expected this to end on the next red tick
01:55:925 (3) - Unrankable. Repeat is invisible due to (1)'s hitburst.
02:12:005 (4) - It's very hard to tell that this is a slider under (3).
02:15:845 (4) - ^
02:26:885 (3) - Unrankable. (you should know why by now :p)
02:37:085 (1) - why not start on the white tick and lengthen?
02:40:805 (2) - Unrankable.
02:46:805 (1,2,3,4) - wohhhh 1/6th stream. Sounds nice, but completely unexpected. I highly suggest changing it.
*same suggestions for the 1/6th streams after the above one
02:52:685 (1) - Shorten to the red tick
02:53:765 (1,2) - These sound bad, actually. :/
03:00:725 (3) - shouldn't be overlapping 4
03:02:045 (9) - don't overlap 1
03:12:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the very small spacing makes these hard to read

Good luck!
banvi
Oh , Lily song <3
nice map :)
Add composer name at tags?? (This song composer name is "seleP" .)

star & good luck ;)
Topic Starter
Kochiya Sanae
fixed lol
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