Yuii- wrote:

Dunno if you fixed it already, can't re-dl, having net issues, but both drum-sliderslide.wav and drum-slidertick.wav are silenced giving no feedback at all.

Monstrata wrote:

@those - fixed both, thanks!

Yuii- wrote:

Woooow, you didn't give us kudos!!
This is blatant corruption, Mr. Monstrata!

Ayyy, just wanted to meme

Dunno if you fixed it already, can't re-dl, having net issues, but both drum-sliderslide.wav and drum-slidertick.wav are silenced giving no feedback at all.

diraimur wrote:

-00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - i kinda agree with Okorin here Kinda explained it briefly, but I want to keep these cuz "drop that drop that" = drop the slider and move to the next one immediately. Basically, I want them to play like circles. The effect of making them 2B is that the slider-ball ends up looking like it's jumping with the cursor, instead of disappearing, and then reappearing like normal sliders with gaps.
-01:13:760 (1,2) - and some other sliders in that sections ends and starts are not overlapped perfectly tho its not a big issue so w/e Did what I could, it's exceedingly hard to fix these 1 and 2 pixel stacks xP. Part of why this happened was that I wanted the body of the butterfly to look like it was vibrating a bit to lend some more realism to the transformation. It looks like the butterfly is opening its wings instead of just scaling outward.
-01:21:002 (5) - maybe ctrl+down arrow twice so its end overlaps perfectly with 01:18:933 (3) - idk Yea sure!
-01:25:485 (1) - i feel like this deserves to be seperated from previous pattern because of finish on 01:25:485 - Nah, I think slider still works better.
-01:40:313 (1,1) - ay this is almost break guaranteed spot, i'd recommend you to use half of the bpm you used and use double the sv, so breaking will be less possibility because of lesser slider ticks, also i recommend you to make the slider 1/1 shorter to the next note because ayylmao 2b spacing I'll just stack the circle on the sliderhead (which will function like the tail) so the jump isn't as big. But the SV and BPM are fine imo. It doesn't really matter how many ticks there are because the speed of the slider is 25x faster going down initially. It's too fast for any sliderticks to have appeared anyways.
-01:42:900 (2,3,4) - while breaking consistency, shouldn't spacing on 01:43:071 (4) - be higher because of higher pitched sound No, I prefer how it plays here.
-01:54:105 (4) - to make it consistent, ^
-02:02:554 (5) - you can't fool me this slider isn't the same slider as 02:01:519 (2) - , please replace it with 02:01:519 (2) - so its end will overlap better with 02:01:864 (2) - Rotated 1 pixel.

great map

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osu!news wrote:

Please note: the map is currently not viable to be qualified until an important pp/star rating change moves from CE to Stable. This may take up to a week.

Underforest wrote:

osu!news wrote:

Please note: the map is currently not viable to be qualified until an important pp/star rating change moves from CE to Stable. This may take up to a week.

gg

Underforest wrote:

osu!news wrote:

Please note: the map is currently not viable to be qualified until an important pp/star rating change moves from CE to Stable. This may take up to a week.

gg

won't be a week imo. the SR has changed today lol

Sonnyc wrote:

01:56:176 (1) - Unsnapped object.

Not some aspire matters :3 Fix it, and I can make a nomination.

Okorin wrote:

hello im nitpicking

just a few things you could do if you care (aka hi im nitpicking)

following full-burai sliders could have start and end stacking perfectly
00:09:279 (3) - 00:19:796 (2) - 00:20:313 (2) - Fixed!

00:34:105 (1) - maybe thats just me but i think it would fit better if this slider would go on for longer because right now half of the DRRRRRRRRRRRT sound goes ignored I want to keep this just because I think making it a 1/4 jump with the slider arranged like this makes it really hard for players to properly use slider-leniency to jump to the next object.

no real clue why you do streamjump for 00:38:501 (6,1) - , considering you didnt do that for other stuff Alright, removed the streamjump here.
00:55:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - maybe louder / clearer hitsounding with soft whistles? Yea sure. Added some soft-whistles
01:06:060 (8,1) - stack Okay

01:40:313 (1,1) - this is new isnt it lol anyways why does it stack and nothing else in the entire map stacks Fixed by just moving the circle 1ms forward in timeline xD.

Okorin wrote:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bhnV-CQRMy3Z0npQd9XSoTdkYxz0ew5e648S00qkJZ8/edit#gid=2074725196


huhu, message to everyone can you test if the warning arrows of your skins get overwritten by this map? For mine, they don't which is a bit unfortunate since not having them would make for a better effect

Hpocks wrote:

I have heard rumors that you are trying to rank this, so I have decided to leave a simple mod to discuss some of the things that are wrong with it and make it unrankable. Even ignoring the distinct lack of readability, distance spacing, and general playability throughout the entire song, this map still has many issues, some of which I will point out in this mod.


[Aspire]

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:00:659 (1) - This slider should end at 00:00:831 -. You see, when sliders for no reason bend back on themselves, that is confusing and is hard to read. This should be fixed to make the map more readable.
00:09:279 (3) - ^
00:17:900 (1) - ^
00:18:589 (1,2,1) - ^
00:19:969 (1,2) - ^
01:48:933 (1) - ^

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders
00:04:624 (1,2) - ^
00:07:382 (1,2) - ^
00:10:141 (1,2) - ^
00:12:900 (4,5) - ^
00:15:658 (1,2) - ^
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:40:313 (1,1) - ^

00:12:037 (4) - Not only is this slider bad because of how suddenly fast it is, but it also changes speed as it goes along its path. Your sliders should not change speed during its movement, and this is highly difficult to read. The examples below could even show random speed changing of sliders, extremely slow, or extremely fast sliders.
00:23:072 (1) - ^
00:34:105 (1) - ^ I dont even know what the hell this is
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^ But it is overly slow instead of fast
00:45:486 (1) - ^
01:08:934 (1) - ^
01:36:348 (1) - ^ A spinner would be about 200x more appropriate. Even a circle would be many times better.
01:40:313 (1) - ^

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

00:56:520 (1) - Nice symmetry! Make this symmetrical!

02:02:726 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These notes are not fully on the screen. You see, when notes are not on the screen, they are very difficult to read and nearly impossible to hit. These are just plain unrankable.

And I didnt even go over anything nit-picky. ALL of these things have to be changes for the map to even have a slither of chance of being ranked.
I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

Hpocks wrote:

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders
00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

Hpocks wrote:

I have heard rumors that you are trying to rank this, so I have decided to leave a simple mod to discuss some of the things that are wrong with it and make it unrankable. Even ignoring the distinct lack of readability, distance spacing, and general playability throughout the entire song, this map still has many issues, some of which I will point out in this mod.


[Aspire]

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:00:659 (1) - This slider should end at 00:00:831 -. You see, when sliders for no reason bend back on themselves, that is confusing and is hard to read. This should be fixed to make the map more readable.
00:09:279 (3) - ^
00:17:900 (1) - ^
00:18:589 (1,2,1) - ^
00:19:969 (1,2) - ^
01:48:933 (1) - ^

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders
00:04:624 (1,2) - ^
00:07:382 (1,2) - ^
00:10:141 (1,2) - ^
00:12:900 (4,5) - ^
00:15:658 (1,2) - ^
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:40:313 (1,1) - ^

00:12:037 (4) - Not only is this slider bad because of how suddenly fast it is, but it also changes speed as it goes along its path. Your sliders should not change speed during its movement, and this is highly difficult to read. The examples below could even show random speed changing of sliders, extremely slow, or extremely fast sliders.
00:23:072 (1) - ^
00:34:105 (1) - ^ I dont even know what the hell this is
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^ But it is overly slow instead of fast
00:45:486 (1) - ^
01:08:934 (1) - ^
01:36:348 (1) - ^ A spinner would be about 200x more appropriate. Even a circle would be many times better.
01:40:313 (1) - ^

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

00:56:520 (1) - Nice symmetry! Make this symmetrical!

02:02:726 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These notes are not fully on the screen. You see, when notes are not on the screen, they are very difficult to read and nearly impossible to hit. These are just plain unrankable.

And I didnt even go over anything nit-picky. ALL of these things have to be changes for the map to even have a slither of chance of being ranked.
I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

Hpocks wrote:

I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

Hpocks wrote:

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

Hpocks wrote:

I have heard rumors that you are trying to rank this, so I have decided to leave a simple mod to discuss some of the things that are wrong with it and make it unrankable. Even ignoring the distinct lack of readability, distance spacing, and general playability throughout the entire song, this map still has many issues, some of which I will point out in this mod.


[Aspire]

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:00:659 (1) - This slider should end at 00:00:831 -. You see, when sliders for no reason bend back on themselves, that is confusing and is hard to read. This should be fixed to make the map more readable. Fixed it by rotating the slider 360 degrees.
00:09:279 (3) - ^ Rotated it 720 degrees instead.
00:17:900 (1) - ^Moved this up 5 pixels, right 20 pixels, down 5 pixels, and left 20 pixels.
00:18:589 (1,2,1) - ^Ctrl+G'ed this twice.
00:19:969 (1,2) - ^ Ctrl+G'ed it 4 times.
01:48:933 (1) - ^ Ctrl+H'ed it, then Ctrl+J'ed, then rotated 180 degrees!

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders Excellent observation! Moved it two pixels up, four pixels down, then two pixels up again!
00:04:624 (1,2) - ^ Same
00:07:382 (1,2) - ^I deleted this, the Ctlr+L'ed
00:10:141 (1,2) - ^Deleted this, then Ctrl+Z'ed
00:12:900 (4,5) - ^Same here
00:15:658 (1,2) - ^Deleted this, and the next two as well, then Ctrl+Shift+L'ed
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:40:313 (1,1) - ^

00:12:037 (4) - Not only is this slider bad because of how suddenly fast it is, but it also changes speed as it goes along its path. Your sliders should not change speed during its movement, and this is highly difficult to read. The examples below could even show random speed changing of sliders, extremely slow, or extremely fast sliders. Reduced the SV by 2x, then doubled the SV.
00:23:072 (1) - ^ Doubled the bpm, then reduced the bpm by 174.
00:34:105 (1) - ^ I dont even know what the hell this is I believe this is a slider.
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^ But it is overly slow instead of fast Made it twice as fast, then twice as slow.
00:45:486 (1) - ^ Reduced the SV by a factor of 1.
01:08:934 (1) - ^Pressed "E" on the slider-head twice.
01:36:348 (1) - ^ A spinner would be about 200x more appropriate. Even a circle would be many times better. Deleted the slider, and added a spinner, then updated my map to the latest pending version.
01:40:313 (1) - ^ ^Used the same technique here.

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all! I agree. Replaced with 1/4 repeating sliders, then reverted to the last saved stated.
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right? I agree. Deleted the entire map and redownloaded it.

00:56:520 (1) - Nice symmetry! Make this symmetrical! Ctrl+H'ed it twice! Hopefully it's more symmetrical now.

02:02:726 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These notes are not fully on the screen. You see, when notes are not on the screen, they are very difficult to read and nearly impossible to hit. These are just plain unrankable. Replaced them with a spinner, and Ctrl+L'ed

And I didnt even go over anything nit-picky. ALL of these things have to be changes for the map to even have a slither of chance of being ranked.
I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

Forlornly wrote:

regarding the breaks, i think you might have mistimed them a bit. looking at the timing points in the notepad i can see what you're going for, but i think there's a bit of a delay between where the breaks theoretically start/end and where they actually and visually start/end, probably because they fade in and out

like in the first break, set to 11003,12381, it's set to start at 00:11:003 (1) - and end on 00:12:382 (1) - which makes perfect sense, but watching-GN's play of it it looks instead like it starts on 00:11:262 (2) - and ends on 00:13:244 (5) - and this seems to be the case on a few of the other breaks, but not all of them.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

get hyped

as a ctb bn i'm basically the most qualified to check maps like this right :^)

i s ranked so, good for ctb

Monstrata wrote:

Forlornly wrote:

regarding the breaks, i think you might have mistimed them a bit. looking at the timing points in the notepad i can see what you're going for, but i think there's a bit of a delay between where the breaks theoretically start/end and where they actually and visually start/end, probably because they fade in and out

like in the first break, set to 11003,12381, it's set to start at 00:11:003 (1) - and end on 00:12:382 (1) - which makes perfect sense, but watching-GN's play of it it looks instead like it starts on 00:11:262 (2) - and ends on 00:13:244 (5) - and this seems to be the case on a few of the other breaks, but not all of them.

Theres the fade out yes. But what was most important for me was the health bar, and other objects on the screen fading out in sync to the music. It's true, the actual "break" doesn't begin until 250 ms after the initial break, due to fade out, but i'm aiming to snap the fade out and fade in with the music, not the break duration itself. Fadein-Fadeout being snapped maps more sense because it better relates to the theme of "transforming" and seeing a visual change in progress as you go from one section to another.

Thanks for your time though!

xxdeathx wrote:

savage ^

Monstrata wrote:

Anything under 3 characters isn't searchable anyways xD

Underforest wrote:

update your video graphics, maybe your pc is low-end

OnosakiHito wrote:

That static note at the beginning. lol

Okorin wrote:

which part is actually impossible to pass using hard rock? the star sliders, the butterflies or which because Auto can apparently deal with this map on HR