Nakata Yuji wrote:

You're over-analyzing buddy. Actually, it's a useless tidbit of information that I give you when you figure out, but veterans might be able to discern its use.

1. If the information you are hiding is detrimental to yourself if publicly known, state that.
2. If the information you are hiding is detrimental to the Town if known by the Mafia, state that.
3. If the information you are hiding is detrimental to a specific player or group of players if known by a specific player or group of players, state that.
4. If the information you are hiding is incriminating another player, state that. If possible, state the evidence so we can consider the evidence appropriately.
5. If you are hiding the information for some other, state that, and state the reason.
6. If you are not hiding any information, state that.

I think he is being way too offensive especially with his respones to Nakata.

SPOILER

Nakata Yuji wrote:

fine, if you're so eager to know.


magikarp --> splash.

That's really it d00d

DiamondCrash wrote:

So, Nakata, why have you changed from trying to get yourself killed to trying to keep yourself alive, hm?

Two wrote:

2. I did want Nakata to die, but I didn't want them to be lynched, so accusing me of lying about that is just stupid.

Two wrote:

Why is it that people so readily started to bandwagon on someone who was against the lynching of the person who was night killed

Two wrote:

and why has no one talked about the fact that two people died at night?

Two wrote:

I did want Nakata to die, but I didn't want them to be lynched, so accusing me of lying about that is just stupid.

Two wrote:

I already knew that Nakata had the equivalent of a vanilla role in this game because of how they posted.

NoHItter wrote:

Two wrote:

I already knew that Nakata had the equivalent of a vanilla role in this game because of how they posted.

Would you care to elaborate on this. This would make sense if you've seen Nakata's roleclaim, but you claim you didn't.

Two wrote:

In effect it pretty much proves to me that strager and Wojjan aren't mafia.

OP wrote:

Furthermore, while there will be near-vanilla roles, EVERY role has at least one night action. This will hopefully keep the game more interesting and involving for the players.

0_o wrote:

I think you should stop being 100% sure of things, Two; if I recall correctly you said Wojjan was 100% town last game as well. Also there AREN'T any vanilla roles this game:

OP wrote:

Furthermore, while there will be near-vanilla roles, EVERY role has at least one night action. This will hopefully keep the game more interesting and involving for the players.

Everybody has a role that's at least somewhat interesting.

Two wrote:

In effect it pretty much proves to me that strager and Wojjan aren't mafia.

0_o wrote:

I think you should stop being 100% sure of things, Two; if I recall correctly you said Wojjan was 100% town last game as well.

Ph0X wrote:

Two wrote:

In effect it pretty much proves to me that strager and Wojjan aren't mafia.

???

I don't see your logic.

Two wrote:

And for the record I can splash too. I'm pretty sure every role can splash.

Two wrote:

I did explain my logic. It should have been obvious to everyone who has played as much as the 3 of us that Nakata was vanilla. So, the chances of you or Wojjan not realizing that and nightkilling Nakata are next to none. And like I just said, Wojjan is playing completely differently this game than last game, and even though they're experienced I doubt they consciously made a decision to change that dramatically.

Two wrote:

and rust45 I'm waiting for a post from you that makes any sense at all

Two wrote:

Yeah I did know 100% that they were town and I did know 100% that they were vanilla.

Two wrote:

It should have been obvious to everyone who has played as much as the 3 of us that Nakata was vanilla

Two wrote:

his complete lack of care in almost all of his posts, the fact that a jester would not be in a game of this size, his roleclaim when he thought he was dead, again expressing a lack of care in pms to me, a playstyle that fits neither mafia or aux roles etc.

Two wrote:

If strager and Wojjan didn't know this too after all the games that they've played, well then I'm disappointed

Two wrote:

It should have been obvious to everyone who has played as much as the 3 of us that Nakata was vanilla

NoHItter wrote:

@strager and Wojjan
Since he specifically states your names, would you care to comment on his reasoning?

Two wrote:

It should have been obvious to everyone who has played as much as the 3 of us that Nakata was vanilla

NoHItter wrote:

@strager and Wojjan
Since he specifically states your names, would you care to comment on his reasoning?

NoHItter wrote:

1) He claims his actions was of a "plan", which involved lying to us. Lying is a scumtell.

NoHItter wrote:

strager claims that the mafia night killed Nakata because they didn't want a shared victory.

DiamondCrash wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

1) He claims his actions was of a "plan", which involved lying to us. Lying is a scumtell.

Is it? Elaborate.

NoHItter wrote:

2) He wanted Nakata to die. Town shouldn't want fellow town to die. (not to mention saying it after he was confirmed town after the night kill)

NoHItter wrote:

5) He knew 100% that Nakata was town, and only justified this 100% through the actions of Nakata.

Two wrote:

NoHItter, please explain to me how it's logical for Nakata to have died if mafia didn't think they were aux.

1. Wine
2. In
3. Front
4. Of
5. Me

Two wrote:

I didn't imagine that strager was going to start a blind crusade against me in that period of time, because to me it still is illogical.

Two wrote:

You should all back up and re-analyze this from day 1.

Two wrote:

I have 5 votes by the way, so all any of you have to do is vote for me once and I'm gone. That would be the easy thing to do, right?

Ph0X wrote:

Lying is a scum tell. Do townies really have a reason to lie? Lying means you have to cover something up, which leads to probable slips, which makes you more suspicious. While a townie may lie, it's definitely not in his best interest in 95% of situations. Mafia, however, are forced to lie in many situations, because telling the truth would reveal their alignment. So yes, lying is a scum tell.

Two wrote:

Ph0X wrote:

Lying is a scum tell. Do townies really have a reason to lie? Lying means you have to cover something up, which leads to probable slips, which makes you more suspicious. While a townie may lie, it's definitely not in his best interest in 95% of situations. Mafia, however, are forced to lie in many situations, because telling the truth would reveal their alignment. So yes, lying is a scum tell.

Why are you talking as if I left you to guess what my reason for lying was? Everyone should be lying in this game at some point, whether it's to protect their identity or to protect aux roles, so I guess everyone is mafia for playing to help the town. You make less and less sense every post.

Ph0X wrote:

While a townie may lie, it's definitely not in his best interest in 95% of situations.

Two wrote:

You're just posting for the sake of posting, now.

Ph0X wrote:

Lyby, can you please post? DxS, can you please make a meaningful post?

Two wrote:

You should all back up and re-analyze this from day 1.

NoHItter wrote:

Great idea. Why don't you do it and post us what you think was suspicious in Day 1.

Two, you're telling us not to vote you, but you're not even defending yourself. Most questions that were brought up to you, you "laughed at" or just put aside without taking it seriously. Provide something substantial and not just AtE's if you really want to defend yourself.

Two wrote:

1. I already talked about this. It's a joke.

Two wrote:

3. You should be judging people on 2 things in this game: how they act and who dies. I judged wojjan on both, strager on the latter.

Two wrote:

4. See 3. Everyone who dies at night is relevant to who is what. Not wanting to talk about it is the telling part.

Two wrote:

5. Maybe I'm just smarter than you. Strager seemed to have caught on.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

I don't know what you're talking about.

Two wrote:

I can't be the only one who checked DeathxShinigami's flag after reading what he wrote.

rust45
1) Votes 0_o - RVS
2) Unvotes 0_o
3A) Votes Nakata based on what Two said. ("on principle I'd rather lynch the inactive people, but for the love of god can we get rid of this guy")
3B) "whether or not it's scum, will help the town." comment
4) Unvotes Nakata since he's getting townie vibes from him
5) Votes for Two

Two wrote:

3. You should be judging people on 2 things in this game: how they act and who dies. I judged wojjan on both, strager on the latter.

0_o wrote:

Well I read through everything and I nothing new really popped out at me. I really don't think Two is mafia as I believe all of his actions so far are justified (if not a little overconfident). I don't have any hard evidence against anyone else, but for some reason NoHItter's posts have been rubbing me the wrong way and I can't put my finger on exactly why. So for now I'm just gonna go with my gut and vote NoHItter.

NoHItter wrote:

Relying on your gut?
It's Day 2. There should be some amount of proof right now.
You can go back to Day 1 and check the actions of everyone.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Oh great, some one shot player just joined, like that's totally better than Lybydose.

Two wrote:

DiamondCrash has seemed the most suspicious overall to me, but I would rather we lynch Lybydose or deathxshinigami so we can still have some semblance of activity day 3.