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Todestrieb
305 posts
Joined February 2014
Todestrieb
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ggynqd6tvrik2wc/Gz1KHLrtcE
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/306873
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/681161
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/487782
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/632767
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/402999
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/547366
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/807598
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/641635
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/732809
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/755859
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/518041
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/651365 (jk it's old and sucks)
Rori Vidi Veni
175 posts
Joined January 2013
Rori Vidi Veni
This informative post will be deleted anyway, just move along
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JamesHappy
679 posts
Joined January 2014
JamesHappy

Todestrieb wrote:

-snip-[/color]
Thanks for the maps

Rori Vidi Veni wrote:

I'd say just go play some BMS, not gonna miss much here but you can find a lot of interesting things. And before someone pulls the "LR2 is hard" argument, there's always Raindrop
Well i would try to play LR2 but, my shitty computer can't handle it so nope. Idk if it can handle raindrop though.
Bobbias
1,447 posts
Joined March 2011
Bobbias
https://github.com/zardoru/raindrop/releases/tag/0.290 This is the latest release for raindrop.
Evening
2,464 posts
Joined December 2012
Evening

Bobbias wrote:

https://github.com/zardoru/raindrop/releases/tag/0.290 This is the latest release for raindrop.


/me clap
JamesHappy
679 posts
Joined January 2014
JamesHappy


me wow
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PyaKura
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Joined January 2013
PyaKura
Is there a difference in how charting in both games supposed to be?
Bobbias
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Joined March 2011
Bobbias
Holds have a very different mechanic in Stepmania, which makes their traditional uses different. In Stepmania, you are not forced to hold until the end of the note perfectly. You are allowed to lift a bit early, or hold it late and still get the normal score for hitting it. You can even lift off the hold for a short time with no penalty. Also, with arrow skins holds have a strong impact on pattern readability. Sometimes miniholds are used in stepmania (for example, 1/4 or 1/8 length holds) which have no real effect on playability, but add a visual emphasis on certain notes.
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
Oh okay I see, thanks for the explanation.
Bobbias
1,447 posts
Joined March 2011
Bobbias
That's also why many players with stepmania experience particularly dislike hold heavy 4k charts here.
Korrui
75 posts
Joined April 2014
Korrui
I was wondering about using a joystick for mania. I am currently using an Xbox one controller but the triggers dont work and i was wondering if there was a better controller that I should use like a PS3/4 or Xbox 360 controller. If there is would you recommend Wired or wireless?
Babu24
20 posts
Joined December 2014
Babu24

AnimeGod2205 wrote:

I was wondering about using a joystick for mania. I am currently using an Xbox one controller but the triggers dont work and i was wondering if there was a better controller that I should use like a PS3/4 or Xbox 360 controller. If there is would you recommend Wired or wireless?
how about you dont use a joystick?
Korrui
75 posts
Joined April 2014
Korrui

Babu24 wrote:

AnimeGod2205 wrote:

I was wondering about using a joystick for mania. I am currently using an Xbox one controller but the triggers dont work and i was wondering if there was a better controller that I should use like a PS3/4 or Xbox 360 controller. If there is would you recommend Wired or wireless?

how about you dont use a joystick?


I prefer using a joystick. it is more comfterable. the only thing that would be better is an actual usb keyboard that i could use. but i liker the shape of a controller. so will you give me an answer or just be rude?
Bobbias
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Bobbias
I'd say if you're dead set on a controller, use a wired one. I'm not sure how wireless has progressed over the years, but I'm sure it still has some sort of delay that would make timing harder to manage.

Using anything other than an actual keyboard will definitely put you at a disadvantage over other players.
Korrui
75 posts
Joined April 2014
Korrui

Bobbias wrote:

I'd say if you're dead set on a controller, use a wired one. I'm not sure how wireless has progressed over the years, but I'm sure it still has some sort of delay that would make timing harder to manage.
Using anything other than an actual keyboard will definitely put you at a disadvantage over other players.


thanks any recommendations on what type of controller?
PyaKura
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Joined January 2013
PyaKura
I am not very knowledgeable about gaming controllers but the ones I've seen the most are those Xbox controllers a ton of players are using to play fighting, racing games and whatnot. Considering fighting games require very low delay to be played comfortably, I'd say they are probably a good choice if you don't intend on using a keyboard or another controller specifically designed for rhythm gaming. What I know though is that setting it up and mapping keys is a piece of cake.
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Korrui
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Joined April 2014
Korrui

PyaKura wrote:

I am not very knowledgeable about gaming controllers but the ones I've seen the most are those Xbox controllers a ton of players are using to play fighting, racing games and whatnot. Considering fighting games require very low delay to be played comfortably, I'd say they are probably a good choice if you don't intended on using a keyboard or another controller specifically designed for rhythm gaming. What I know though is that setting it up and mapping keys is a piece of cake.


ok thanks.
ArcherLove
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Joined March 2013
ArcherLove
this is ded? lol.

mfw BN all busy
-[ AmiShici ]-
-[ AmiShici ]-

ArcherLove wrote:

this is ded? lol.

mfw BN all busy
RIP :(
Elementaires
658 posts
Joined January 2013
Elementaires
puxtu
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Joined August 2013
puxtu
blame kami for that
ArcherLove
1,434 posts
Joined March 2013
ArcherLove
henti kami
ArcherLove
1,434 posts
Joined March 2013
ArcherLove
t/126509

lol
juankristal
osu! Alumni
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Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
juankristal

ArcherLove wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/126509

lol
Woah, never saw that. My bad!
Hikona
744 posts
Joined October 2014
Hikona
1000 pp ic
Feerum
osu! Alumni
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Joined August 2014
Feerum
ded here? xd
Why is this thread so inactive.
#blamejuan
juankristal
osu! Alumni
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Topic Starter
juankristal

Feerum wrote:

ded here? xd
Why is this thread so inactive.
#blamejuan
Maybe because people post stuff in the subforum instead of here? D:

We should migrate some threads tho here :x
Bobbias
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Joined March 2011
Bobbias
Yeah, there have been a lot of threads that really didn't deserve to be separate threads and would have been better as posts in here or another one of the main threads.
Muu-chan
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Joined August 2014
Muu-chan
< yes
akebono
615 posts
Joined August 2012
akebono
Hi!

I'm as the leader of this tournament want to ask osu!mania players for a recommendation maps for our mappool!

4K : http://hnng.moe/83U
7K : http://hnng.moe/83V

There is no rules! Only the stars that determine the diffculty. (I know SR osu!mania sucks but yee)
7K-press, LN, BMS, anything!

Thank you!
juankristal
osu! Alumni
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Topic Starter
juankristal

egas00 wrote:

Hi!

I'm as the leader of this tournament want to ask osu!mania players for a recommendation maps for our mappool!

4K : http://hnng.moe/83U
7K : http://hnng.moe/83V

There is no rules! Only the stars that determine the diffculty. (I know SR osu!mania sucks but yee)
7K-press, LN, BMS, anything!

Thank you!
Whoops, really didnt see this one! How is the tourney going?
akebono
615 posts
Joined August 2012
akebono
Still selecting mappool from the suggestion box until May 13!
And then the registration will open. :D
Yuudachi-kun
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Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun
Does anyone else play like this? I think I've gotten used to it now.
SPOILER
juankristal
osu! Alumni
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Topic Starter
juankristal
I do think thats one of the best key configs! I find myself faster when I am using keys that are in the downside of the keyboard. But because mine is really dead I have to use the numbers D:
Yuudachi-kun
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Yuudachi-kun

juankristal wrote:

I do think thats one of the best key configs! I find myself faster when I am using keys that are in the downside of the keyboard. But because mine is really dead I have to use the numbers D:
I have to play without keycaps or barely play at all. That's what I was referring to.
juankristal
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juankristal
LOL gg me. I can't do that tho haha. I can't hit the key and i cant hear the clicky sound x.x
Yuudachi-kun
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Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun

juankristal wrote:

LOL gg me. I can't do that tho haha. I can't hit the key and i cant hear the clicky sound x.x
It works for me. New achievement :D/

SPOILER
Sashime
22 posts
Joined June 2014
Sashime
Anyone? please help!

The score and percent did not showing in game! :(
What should i do! :(

#justasking

SPOILER
juankristal
osu! Alumni
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Topic Starter
juankristal

Sashime wrote:

Anyone? please help!

The score and percent did not showing in game! :(
What should i do! :(

#justasking

SPOILER
Did you try doing shift+tab?
Sashime
22 posts
Joined June 2014
Sashime

juankristal wrote:

Sashime wrote:

Anyone? please help!

The score and percent did not showing in game! :(
What should i do! :(

#justasking

SPOILER
Did you try doing shift+tab?
Oh! Thank you, i forgot it.

Yes, i click shift+tab
Todestrieb
305 posts
Joined February 2014
Todestrieb
Please, don't do V2 scoring, nobody like it, It's a HUGE step back.
juankristal
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juankristal

Todestrieb wrote:

Please, don't do V2 scoring, nobody like it, It's a HUGE step back.
Hey, we have a lot of time to make stuff better related to score v2! There is some stuff that HAS to be changed or discus at least (such as visual mods giving score advantage or the values or whatever). I think a score v2 for tournaments is indeed needed to make stuff more interesting and perhaps change the meta a little bit.

Will be hard to get used of combo being a thing but hey, mania is that kind of gamemode where you cant really underperform too much so giving combo a little bit more of importance is good in my opinion, underperforms and upsets will likely be something that we can see in MWC 4K now :D

Still, we HAVE to give all the feedback that we can to make it as close as perfection.
Soul Evans
Elite Mapper
425 posts
Joined June 2014
Soul Evans
I've been pretty much down on my 4k after 4 extensive months of playing 7k while i did rank up tons and got really good at 7k, i feel like in 4k i haven't improved at all. So i was thinking about doing a 2 month streak of playing nothing but 4k, but i don't want my 7k improvement to slow down either, aaaaa this is a really hard decision.
abraker
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abraker

Soul Evans wrote:

I've been pretty much down on my 4k after 4 extensive months of playing 7k while i did rank up tons and got really good at 7k, i feel like in 4k i haven't improved at all. So i was thinking about doing a 2 month streak of playing nothing but 4k, but i don't want my 7k improvement to slow down either, aaaaa this is a really hard decision.
If you are like me, you would go a couple days without mania and then shit out 1 or 2 decent scores, call it day, and repeat. I just play casually most of the time as if I am a noob (whether that's is on purpose or not is for my subconscience to decide), and then pick a random day to unleash all that stored power.

So... I feel like a suck most of the time, but not always. Play 4k or 7k casually and go out sometimes? I dunno how that will work out as you are not me :D
Soul Evans
Elite Mapper
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Soul Evans

abraker wrote:

Soul Evans wrote:

I've been pretty much down on my 4k after 4 extensive months of playing 7k while i did rank up tons and got really good at 7k, i feel like in 4k i haven't improved at all. So i was thinking about doing a 2 month streak of playing nothing but 4k, but i don't want my 7k improvement to slow down either, aaaaa this is a really hard decision.
If you are like me, you would go a couple days without mania and then shit out 1 or 2 decent scores, call it day, and repeat. I just play casually most of the time as if I am a noob (whether that's is on purpose or not is for my subconscience to decide), and then pick a random day to unleash all that stored power.

So... I feel like a suck most of the time, but not always. Play 4k or 7k casually and go out sometimes? I dunno how that will work out as you are not me :D
My stamina will get worse in that case, for 7k maybe but for 4k my stamina is really essential for 4k since 6 star stuff are really dense so even when i see myself doing better than what i normally do at half of the map, i just die down because stamina
abraker
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abraker
I'm still not sure why that happens. Like you are not training any muscles really, right? How I understand it is that the efficiency controlling fingers that fast comes from learning to do it. I always found myself tapping faster when I remember my technique for doing so - tap as briefly as possible and keep fingers off keytops as much as possible (like pretend the keyboard is hot as the sun or something). Would this imply we forget these things this easy or am I wrong and we actually do train our muscles on this? I really never understood. :?

There is also reading, but let's assume your ability to read doesnt degrade for the sake of what I am trying to say/ask.
Soul Evans
Elite Mapper
425 posts
Joined June 2014
Soul Evans
Just because i'm able to do hard maps doesn't mean i wont burn out in the process, like for me, i get an A on a 4k map and i find my arms dead from exhaustion.
When you play a hard map that's like, the max thing you can barely S or A you get a feel that your fore arms are burning and feeling tired, keep that feeling for too long, and you end up unable to play the map properly because your arms get really tired from the process of playing a difficult map. and yes in some cases you don't really rust but that's like for easy maps you don't really feel burn out from playing (unless it's like a 97-98% on a jumpstream map), but for maps that reaches your limits that's when you feel that you're draining stamina.
abraker
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abraker

Soul Evans wrote:

...
Honestly I am not sure why players use the word stamina to describe their ability to maintain on a map. The term usage "have enough stamina to do a map" is so wrong imo. To me, that implies you are barely keeping up with the map. What you call "using stamina" to me is the resultant opposing force your fingers experience over time which comes from directing your fingers to go the opposite way they are going, which causes strain in the ligments. It's just lack of control in simple terms. If you have fine control of your finger movements such that you are not forcing them to move fast, then you shouldn't even feel any strain causing stamina depletion over time.

You can feel the burn out for either of two reasons: your reading ability is efficient enough but your hitting ability is not efficient enough or your read ability is not efficient enough and as a result your hitting ability is not efficient enough. Jumpstream and broken stream maps require good reading efficiency while jack maps require good hitting ability. If you are having trouble on dumpstreams and/or broken streams, then you reading ability is the bottle neck. If you are having trouble on jack maps like sewing machine or something similiarly easier, then your hitting ability is the bottle neck.
Kempie
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Kempie

Soul Evans wrote:

My stamina will get worse in that case, for 7k maybe but for 4k my stamina is really essential for 4k since 6 star stuff are really dense so even when i see myself doing better than what i normally do at half of the map, i just die down because stamina
High level VSRG stuff is quite similar to high level guitar playing in this aspect. Speed comes from good finger technique, not from finger strength. Playing faster than your finger technique can handle results in your fingers tensing up, causing the mid-song muscle fatigue you described. With better finger technique, you can play the same song at the same (or greater) speed using less strength, less movement and therefore with less muscle fatigue.

On a slightly different note, playing songs where your fingers are constantly tensing up is probably not a good thing. You may be developing bad finger technique and get finger/hand injuries in the process. Playing at the limits of what you can comfortably play is better for preventing injuries and developing finger technique. Look at how some of the most skillful guitar players practiced, and you'll find they worked their way up to insane speeds by doing exactly this.
Bobbias
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Bobbias
You still need to play relatively hard things (for your skill level) to improve technique. Playing something that is too easy makes it much harder to actually change your technique and see the difference that better technique makes.
Kempie
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Kempie

Bobbias wrote:

You still need to play relatively hard things (for your skill level) to improve technique. Playing something that is too easy makes it much harder to actually change your technique and see the difference that better technique makes.
Agreed, let me rephrase that part of my previous post: Pushing the limits of what you can comfortably play is better for preventing injuries and developing finger technique. I.e., do challenge yourself, don't strain yourself.
Soul Evans
Elite Mapper
425 posts
Joined June 2014
Soul Evans
May i ask you, in what way do you think people would play to the point where their hands will get injured? you see, the it's very rare to get RSI from mania so that means there is only one possibility, Carpel tunnel, but that's if you played maps way out of your league+playing it constantly, i don't think players would go that far honestly. You should take into account that while you are right about finger technique, but the one i'm referring to when it comes to stamina. Let me ask you this, have you ever tried a Jumpstream marathon map? something like Icyworld charts, or even maps like blue army or we luv lama, well if that's the case yes well imagine that burning feeling increases for a long time to the point where you just can't handle it and end up failing to follow to the map, that's what i'm suffering from, to be unable to continue a map because i lost my stamina, if i had infinite stamina i could have easily played that map with an S or something higher in % it's like a runner in parkour, he knows how to do a backflip and trained on it but after he took a 4 month break he finds it difficult to execute, but he knows how to do it but his legs failed him.
abraker
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abraker

Soul Evans wrote:

or even maps like blue army or we luv lama
Those used to burn, but I can do them without feeling a thing now since I learned to read the patterns.

Soul Evans wrote:

that's what i'm suffering from, to be unable to continue a map because i lost my stamina,
Is there possibility you just read less efficiently, hence forcing your fingers to strain while trying to keep up?
Soul Evans
Elite Mapper
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Soul Evans
I can 99% FC 5* jumpstreams and still feel the burn in my arms, so it's not a reading problem
abraker
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abraker

Soul Evans wrote:

I can 99% FC 5* jumpstreams and still feel the burn in my arms, so it's not a reading problem
99% and feeling burns. Maybe you are forcing yourself to press keys and/or pressing keys too hard?
fortunexcraft
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Joined January 2015
fortunexcraft
Osu!Mania is confined within it's play field. When will such limits be broken?
[Crz]Player
228 posts
Joined September 2011
[Crz]Player
ok so I'm here to discuss who is the fastest player
[Crz]Player
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[Crz]Player



The FASTEST o!m player EVER !!! OMG ^^
Yuudachi-kun
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Yuudachi-kun
130 KPS!!11

MORE KPS = BETTER
[Crz]Player
228 posts
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[Crz]Player
KPS = SKILL
Noderum
39 posts
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Noderum

step mania wrote:

KPS = SKILL
Honestly anyone who says KPS doesn't equal into skill is wrong. KPS IS EVERYTHING!1!
[Crz]Player
228 posts
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[Crz]Player
8-) 8-)
[Crz]Player
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[Crz]Player

Noderum wrote:

step mania wrote:

KPS = SKILL
Honestly anyone who says KPS doesn't equal into skill is wrong. KPS IS EVERYTHING!1!
true
Yuudachi-kun
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Yuudachi-kun
If we play 14k vibro can we get OVER 200 KPS AND BE #1 PLAYER OF ALL TIME?!!1?!
Noderum
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Noderum

Yuudachi-kun wrote:

If we play 14k vibro can we get OVER 200 KPS AND BE #1 PLAYER OF ALL TIME?!!1?!
yes
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker
KPS/column
[Crz]Player
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[Crz]Player
daily reminder kps=skill
[Crz]Player
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[Crz]Player
high kps high acc = greatest player


iiyo
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iiyo

step mania wrote:

high kps high acc = greatest player



U JusT JeaLoUs U Can'T KPS PausE amiTsu SpaM XXXX LoRD KorEaN GoD


holY Shit CaN yoU eveN FooL MoonS ? KPS MeTEr
[Crz]Player
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[Crz]Player
^^ ofcourse
[Crz]Player
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[Crz]Player
daily reminder: succ players never know their succ ^^
[Crz]Player
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[Crz]Player

Noderum wrote:

step mania wrote:

KPS = SKILL
Honestly anyone who says KPS doesn't equal into skill is wrong. KPS IS EVERYTHING!1!
iiyo
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iiyo
Conversation
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Conversation

step mania wrote:

KPS = SKILL
i got like 200 kps in this am i #1 now or what ?????????????????????????
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Conversation
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Conversation

Fantasy wrote:

Noderum
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Noderum
Attang has been slacking it so I'm hear to remind everyone that kps = skill.

That's it, move on with your life now.
[Crz]Player
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[Crz]Player

Noderum wrote:

Attang has been slacking it so I'm hear to remind everyone that kps = skill.

That's it, move on with your life now.

8)
jbomb99
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jbomb99
Hello new to Osu! here but I am wondering if there is a may to get the extra beatmaps from the download section as 1 complete file instead of multiple files?
juankristal
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juankristal

jbomb99 wrote:

Hello new to Osu! here but I am wondering if there is a may to get the extra beatmaps from the download section as 1 complete file instead of multiple files?
There is something called beatmap packs which are on the beatmaps section->beatmap packs.
[ Scarlet Red ]
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[ Scarlet Red ]

Conservation wrote:

step mania wrote:

KPS = SKILL

i got like 200 kps in this am i #1 now or what ?????????????????????????


In that case let me just mash my keyboard really quick and join the mania world cup :^)
abraker
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abraker
tfw part 1: 95% S

tfw part 2: God-like levels of improvement
Lights
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Lights
Does it count as a necropost if its a pinned topic? Maybe this thread is worth bringing back
jpsn
jpsn
general discussion ay? Well is it bad to not have your keys you press spread out and just have them lined up straight in a row because its cramped and you can't tap as fast?
[LS]PositoniX
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jpsn wrote:

general discussion ay? Well is it bad to not have your keys you press spread out and just have them lined up straight in a row because its cramped and you can't tap as fast?
some players use the cramped playstyle, inteliser actually set some really good scores with it (ie rose quarts j5 93p aaa, but it's definitely worse if you're trying to improve. your fingers are constantly bumping into each other, especially your thumbs. i reccomend at least 3 keys of space between your inputs minimum, though you should play with the keybindings to see how much space works for you. i used to use qwop (6 keys of space between the inputs) for a while, and after switching to it from qwer i immediately improved. that said, a few months ago i switched to qw end pgdn (10+ keys of space) and noticed immediate improvement after switching to those keybinds as well. if i go back to qwop, i dont lose skill, but its just most comfortable for me to use qw end pgdown. play around with the spacing of your keybinds to find out what works best for you
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jpsn
jpsn

PositoniX wrote:

jpsn wrote:

general discussion ay? Well is it bad to not have your keys you press spread out and just have them lined up straight in a row because its cramped and you can't tap as fast?
some players use the cramped playstyle, inteliser actually set some really good scores with it (ie rose quarts j5 93p aaa, but it's definitely worse if you're trying to improve. your fingers are constantly bumping into each other, especially your thumbs. i reccomend at least 3 keys of space between your inputs minimum, though you should play with the keybindings to see how much space works for you. i used to use qwop (6 keys of space between the inputs) for a while, and after switching to it from qwer i immediately improved. that said, a few months ago i switched to qw end pgdn (10+ keys of space) and noticed immediate improvement after switching to those keybinds as well. if i go back to qwop, i dont lose skill, but its just most comfortable for me to use qw end pgdown. play around with the spacing of your keybinds to find out what works best for you
wow thanks for the reply!
NeZoHz
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my rank does not appear
Jeremy654Gamer
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Jeremy654Gamer
Hola, no se como piñas se hacen las teclas largas, nunca me salen con buena precision, como mejoro esa wea?
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