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Asphyxia
@fieryrage

I think it should be fine, a lot of the sliders in my part specifically are quite fast, so this shouldn't really cause any issues
Ciyus Miapah
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Bonzi

fieryrage wrote:

better than pishi dont tell him i said this

04:23:456 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - pretty spaced compared to everything else but ill let it pass because it looks amazing ok xd
04:24:663 (2) - do u want me to sliderbreak here cuz thats what ur asking 4 not mine, idk i guess spaghetti or broccoly will take care about this
Asahina Momoko
fixed everything, thanks~

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Broccoly
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Topic Starter
Spaghetti
bee ens
Nerova Riuz GX

Spaghetti wrote:

Spaghetti x Rohit6 x Blue Dragon x Smoothie World x ProfessionalBox x Asphyxia x Fizz x Xilver x Nerova Riuz GX x Sing x Bonzi x Broccoly x xlni x byfar x Asahina Momoko x Len

Hitsounding by Fort
the fuck are those damn cool colors
plz stop smoking fun crack, spaghetti
Topic Starter
Spaghetti
CHECK UR DAM MOD
Storyboarder
sb is done xddd

download this entire folder and put it in the beatmap folder
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a8be7e7kgumr ... 4h3Da?dl=0

here dat osb: http://puu.sh/pufoZ/70baa8e827.osb

i just put my name as light blue for now since i dont know what color im supposed to be yet
ProfessionalBox
This sb is killing it, great stuff
Storyboarder

ProfessionalBox wrote:

This sb is killing it, great stuff
thanks :)
Storyboarder
removed half the stuff on screen to reduce file size by 45%(6.5mb to 3.5mb)
not sure if this is much help since 22mb is from the hitsounds :/

http://puu.sh/puniH/38121c5622.osb
Nerova Riuz GX

Spaghetti wrote:

CHECK UR DAM MOD
I thought I did it already idk
Topic Starter
Spaghetti

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

Spaghetti wrote:

CHECK UR DAM MOD
I thought I did it already idk
p/5201310
Rohit6
@fierygay

00:48:456 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - dont wann hanzer this 2 hard

00:54:490 (1,2) - blue tick clap , das y chang d
Nerova Riuz GX

fieryrage wrote:

whatever this guys name is im too lazy to write it out oh seriously?

03:19:318 (1,2,3,4) - this is like really spaced compared to the rest of the map so far, reduce it a bit maybe? decreased a little bit
03:38:801 (2,3) - holy this random stack triggers me so bad you dont even know just do what u did 03:39:318 (1,2) - here pls they are meant to be stacked tbh, so (4) and (5) can greatly perform those similar sounds.
also,

@Sing
at 03:40:697 (1) - , I changed it back to the original slider. my objects before it are designed to follow this slider but idk why it was replaced by a circle. I think it will be better to keep it original, so I put it back there. If there's any problem, you have the right to keep or replace that slider.

All of the changes have already sent to Spaghetti.
Bluekrait
16-bit wav hitsounds for you

http://puu.sh/pvFHG/286c8dc894.zip
Storyboarder
thx

since hitsounds dont take as much now can you see if the original sb fits?
Topic Starter
Spaghetti

Kalamitous wrote:

thx

since hitsounds dont take as much now can you see if the original sb fits?
i like the one with less particles actually, it makes the sb look a lot less cluttered (also im at 24.2 MB and i cant go over 25 so xd)
Storyboarder
alrighty
Storyboarder
http://puu.sh/pwHqC/97054fe004.png
http://puu.sh/pwHr4/f54e14559d.png

updated images

and i made my part better adapted to tochi's: http://puu.sh/pwI51/08eac429e3.osb (combined both of our parts already)
Asahina Momoko
nice storyboard o_o
Pho
I hope considered making an extra difficulty yourself for this set since:

Ranking Criteria wrote:

No guest mapper should have more difficulties in the mapset than the creator, all modes together. For collaboration mapsets, the uploader should take part in all collab difficulties. The person who should upload the map is the one who contributed most to it. Maps with an ambiguous set of difficulties such as collabs will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis to ensure that the submitting mapper is properly accounted for.
Your part is considerably shorter than Len's part in the collaboration and a lot of effort seems to be put into the storyboard as well.
Amazing track and map though, good luck with this! noodle dishes make best maps ayy
Storyboarder

Asahina Momoko wrote:

nice storyboard o_o
thank mr momoko
Topic Starter
Spaghetti

Pho wrote:

I hope considered making an extra difficulty yourself for this set since:

Ranking Criteria wrote:

No guest mapper should have more difficulties in the mapset than the creator, all modes together. For collaboration mapsets, the uploader should take part in all collab difficulties. The person who should upload the map is the one who contributed most to it. Maps with an ambiguous set of difficulties such as collabs will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis to ensure that the submitting mapper is properly accounted for.
Your part is considerably shorter than Len's part in the collaboration and a lot of effort seems to be put into the storyboard as well.
Amazing track and map though, good luck with this! noodle dishes make best maps ayy
Given all the work i put into getting this organized, dictating how i want each part to be, putting in each part into the .osu, getting mods, doing m4ms for mods, and getting the collabers to CHECK their mods (which ive been checking mods for 2 parts cuz people are busy) and giving instruction to the sbers to get what i think is appropriate for the map, i think its fair to say that i put in a great amount more into the set than the average collaber. Also, if it still gets dqd for that, I'm taking the part of one of the collabers who im checking mods for and redoing it myself (we worked this out already so its ok with them).
Storyboarder
Akiyama Mizuki

Spaghetti wrote:

Given all the work i put into getting this organized, dictating how i want each part to be, putting in each part into the .osu, getting mods, doing m4ms for mods, and getting the collabers to CHECK their mods (which ive been checking mods for 2 parts cuz people are busy) and giving instruction to the sbers to get what i think is appropriate for the map, i think its fair to say that i put in a great amount more into the set than the average collaber. Also, if it still gets dqd for that, I'm taking the part of one of the collabers who im checking mods for and redoing it myself (we worked this out already so its ok with them).
THAT was literally the exactly same logic with Natteke's when this accountability rule was implemented and his Let It Go set became the first victim of the rule.
Topic Starter
Spaghetti
@Pho

well i opened it up to discussion on the RC change subforum thingy and people said that its so negligible that it shouldnt matter so idk d
Pho
I just wanted to bring this issue up before the set is considered to go into qualification phase to prevent drama in this thread, I hope you understand that.

I can clearly see your point that organization & management of such a big set is exhausting and requires devotion to it. Your argument is valid to me as well and certainly adds to 'who contributed most'; but given how the rule is worded at the moment and how none of this effort can be measured properly, pushing this forward seems pretty dodgy - at least for me. A clarification/rewording of the contribution rule would be really helpful before making the next move imo.

I just post the link to the discussion here just in case people want to take a look at it from this thread: t/468358 .
Topic Starter
Spaghetti

Pho wrote:

I just wanted to bring this issue up before the set is considered to go into qualification phase to prevent drama in this thread, I hope you understand that.

I can clearly see your point that organization & management of such a big set is exhausting and requires devotion to it. Your argument is valid to me as well and certainly adds to 'who contributed most'; but given how the rule is worded at the moment and how none of this effort can be measured properly, pushing this forward seems pretty dodgy - at least for me. A clarification/rewording of the contribution rule would be really helpful before making the next move imo.

I just post the link to the discussion here just in case people want to take a look at it from this thread: t/468358 .
i already argued that and people just said that since the rule says its a "case-by-case" thing that my map should be fine since its only a few seconds different as opposed to a whole minute

and apparently it also looked like i was trying to bend the rules to rank my map so xddDddDDDDDD!

if you want to contribute to the discussion by all means post yourself but im sure not gonna
Nerova Riuz GX
maybe you should try to map some of that intro to extend your drain
-Visceral-

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

maybe you should try to map some of that intro to extend your drain
I agree. I feel a spinner at the beginning would be really good for the atmosphere as well, as it leaves the player in a kind of spooky part of the song where they are wondering what's gonna happen next. Without a spinner, they just skip past it, which I think is skipping a crucial part of the song's atmosphere.
Topic Starter
Spaghetti

Smoothie World wrote:

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

maybe you should try to map some of that intro to extend your drain
I agree. I feel a spinner at the beginning would be really good for the atmosphere as well, as it leaves the player in a kind of spooky part of the song where they are wondering what's gonna happen next. Without a spinner, they just skip past it, which I think is skipping a crucial part of the song's atmosphere.
i like the ominous feeling a blank intro gives and makes the first few notes of the map a lot more "woa h" but even with adding a spinner that still wouldnt be longer than Len's part afaik

again, the difference in length is only a couple seconds, and Shiirn, Oko, Monstrata, Ascendance, and a few others agree that its negligible and shouldnt matter.
-rage
just some suggestions. no kd

fizz
- 02:35:697 (4,5,1,2) - these types of stream don't really look aesthetically pleasing? all the notes could be more equally spaced out or put in a different way, applies for all stream that look like this in your part.

hitsound
- 04:25:783 (2,3) - 04:27:076 (2,3) - strong clap here (NC:1 clap), i feel like it doesn't really follow the song nor the hitsounds at the beginning of the parts. you could just a clap here 04:25:870 (3) - and here 04:27:249 (3) -

byfar
- 05:11:387 (2,1,2) - this overlap feels really weird and is kinda hard to read. i didn't think there was a mini gap between the 1,2 the first time i saw it and it threw me off.
- 05:25:266 (1,1,1) - the 3 different combos there really necessary? would it feel fine to just keep this 1 combo?
- 05:29:059 (1,2,3,1,2) - another questionable and confusing overlap (in my opinion)
Fizz

lulu lemon wrote:

fizz
- 02:35:697 (4,5,1,2) - these types of stream don't really look aesthetically pleasing? all the notes could be more equally spaced out or put in a different way, applies for all stream that look like this in your part. i have a reason for having it this way, it's not just an aesthetic choice
Ciyus Miapah

lulu lemon wrote:

hitsound
- 04:25:783 (2,3) - 04:27:076 (2,3) - strong clap here (NC:1 clap), i feel like it doesn't really follow the song nor the hitsounds at the beginning of the parts. you could just a clap here 04:25:870 (3) - and here 04:27:249 (3) - im doing this because the otes itself on that map, well it makes emphasized more for me, so i think i won't change this one
sorry but no changes here :)
Doormat
chatlog regarding NC structure
00:56 Doormat: okay so NCs?
00:57 Doormat: kind of expected NC here 00:42:766 (5) -
00:57 Spaghetti: fixed
00:58 Doormat: 00:54:490 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this comboing doesn't make any sense at all
00:59 Spaghetti: how to fix
01:00 Spaghetti: g
01:00 Doormat: i'd just remove the ones there
01:00 Doormat: it breaks NC structure with everything else
01:00 Doormat: actually that pattern looks a little iffy
01:00 Doormat: why is 00:54:576 (2,3) - spaced differently
01:01 Spaghetti: 00:54:749 (1) - this one too?
01:01 Spaghetti: wut do u mean its spaced differently
01:01 Doormat: like
01:01 Doormat: why is there a change in distance snap on the stream here
01:04 Doormat: 01:47:852 (1) - imo this NC isn't necessary but i can see why it's there so i guess it's okay
01:04 Spaghetti: there isnt a big difference
01:04 Spaghetti: ima keep that one
01:04 Spaghetti: do i remove this nc too?
01:04 Spaghetti: 00:54:749 (1) -
01:05 Doormat: oh wait
01:05 Doormat: that's weird
01:07 Doormat: yeah i'd remove both NCs there
01:07 Doormat: don't really make sense to me
01:07 Doormat: i still don't really like that pattern but what can you do, creative differences :x
01:13 Doormat: 04:20:352 (6) - kind of expected a NC here to keep with consistency of previous combo structure during the buildup section here
01:14 Doormat: 04:21:387 (1,3) - kind of expected the nc here to start on the (3) instead of where it currently is; same reason as above
01:16 Spaghetti: fixed
01:16 Doormat: 04:36:473 (5) - expected a NC here
01:16 Doormat: since 04:37:852 (1) - 04:39:232 (1) - 04:40:611 (1) - all have it and there's a similar accent on those notes
01:17 Doormat: also it's the longest combo during this section so it sticks out a little
01:17 Spaghetti: fixed
01:18 Doormat: 05:08:973 (2) - no NC here?
01:18 Doormat: but SV change and downbeat
01:19 Doormat: 05:15:870 (6) - same here
01:19 Spaghetti: 05:09:318 (1) - should i remove this one
01:19 Doormat: no, keep it
01:19 Doormat: there's another SV change so it'll help with readability
01:19 Spaghetti: ye
01:19 Spaghetti: ok fixed
01:20 Doormat: 05:25:266 (1,1,1) - just my opinion but these ncs seem unnecessary
01:21 Spaghetti: thats stylistic so imma keep
01:21 Doormat: kk
01:22 Doormat: holy fuck byfar's ending section
01:22 Doormat: i can't even keep up
01:22 Doormat: 3fast5me
01:22 Spaghetti: lmaoooo
01:23 Doormat: ok i slowed it down and it makes sense i guess?
01:24 Spaghetti: mk
01:27 Doormat: 05:55:870 (3,1) - personally i think NC should be on the (3) since there's more emphasis but then rip readability
01:28 Doormat: for the most part NCs look fine
01:28 Doormat: just that one bit in Rohit's section that's a little offputting to me
01:29 Doormat: and that one section in Len's but i think you can get away with it since it helps with readability
01:29 Doormat: but that's just my opinion :x
01:30 Spaghetti: fixed most
01:30 Doormat: zz
byfar
i have changed a few things
Monstrata
Discussed some stuff in game, and I'm happy with the quality now, so here's Bubble #1. Good luck!
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Spaghetti
Thanks Monstrata:D
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