Krfawy wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/950640

May I ask how is it that possible to use AR7 in the easiest difficulty if:

A) it's not a marathon map
B) it would work better with AR2 or AR3
C) it is clearly not okay when it comes to play it
D) newer players aren't usually able to read anything above AR5 or AR6

Clearly, I am asking about standard mode.

1. Players who are still learning general concepts of the game will not be able to read it at all
2. The high AR does not work with low velocity and spacing values, making gameplay feel broken and forced

1. Please, get rid of extra transparency in your .png files, I do not think they serve any purpose.

1. Slider Tick Rate seems to be making little if any sense with the main rhythm you follow as you're constantly following 1/1 rhythm.

1. Since we are talking AR changes, this could benefit from AR 5 or 5,5. For SV/DS matching purposes. This should deliver more comfortable gameplay.
2. I also do not support the concept of spacing changes in this difficulty, as I believe it to be too much of a difficulty jump from Easy to Normal.
   Example: 03:03:027 (2,3,1) -
3. 1/4 usage there also causes a lot of questions. For example, we cna have a look at 02:28:105 (4,1) - that requires quite a lot of rapid (for the target skill level player) reaction and in comparison with the Easy we are having a huge difficulty gap.

Bakari wrote:

A disqualification has been requested!

Krfawy wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/950640

May I ask how is it that possible to use AR7 in the easiest difficulty if:

A) it's not a marathon map
B) it would work better with AR2 or AR3
C) it is clearly not okay when it comes to play it
D) newer players aren't usually able to read anything above AR5 or AR6

Clearly, I am asking about standard mode.

Answer to Krfawy's arguments: I do not see how you can make these judgements when in reality, there is no comparison. Time Bomb does not count as an example, since its density and OD are completely different. So your points on functionality and easier gameplay are nullified, because I am fairly sure you cannot tell whether it is okay or not due to a lack of maps that follow my principle.

In addition to that, I have to add that the current AR on Easy and Normal takes the rhythm-centered structure of the game away and makes it more reaction-centered, hence the original concept of a rhythm-game is taken away. Easy difficulties have to be beginner-friendly, and this is where your AR7 concept fails. I can agree on this aspect. Seni and I had a conversation over this and I know about what I am doing with that high AR. However, I chose not to DQ the set myself, since the other difficulties of the set are realising the exact opposite, to display how I do care about rhythm. Therefore, I assumed it is justified to have the lower diffs also have AR7, just to have beginners realise how the connection between object and music is set up. With that knowledge, players were supposed to handle the higher diffs with relative ease, at least accounting for the step from Easy to Normal or Normal to Hard.
If this can absolutely not be agreed on, I am of course willing to change the AR for the lower diffs, while I want to keep the low AR on the highest diff because of the additional challenge.

With this being said, I have to add that multiple people have complained about it with more concerns:

1. Players who are still learning general concepts of the game will not be able to read it at all This is what I have discussed in my comment on Krfawy's points. How do we know it is not actually supporting them? Monstrata gave the example of PewDiePie playing in his video and pressing way too early on, which is exactly what drove me to try this.
2. The high AR does not work with low velocity and spacing values, making gameplay feel broken and forced What if it was slightly adjusted, lowered, to make this more adequate?

Having this said, we want you to reply to these concerns, so we can have the discussion going in some productive direction.

Bakari wrote:

Now let me put some personal notes and thoughts.

[General]

1. Please, get rid of extra transparency in your .png files, I do not think they serve any purpose. If you are talking about the SB files, then my b, I am very bad at graphical editing. I might as well just delete the storyboard, for it was made j4f.

[Easy]

1. Slider Tick Rate seems to be making little if any sense with the main rhythm you follow as you're constantly following 1/1 rhythm. I intended to make it consistent, but I'll change that if you insist.

[Normal]

1. Since we are talking AR changes, this could benefit from AR 5 or 5,5. For SV/DS matching purposes. This should deliver more comfortable gameplay.
2. I also do not support the concept of spacing changes in this difficulty, as I believe it to be too much of a difficulty jump from Easy to Normal.
   Example: 03:03:027 (2,3,1) - Yeah, since I mainly don't have those in the Hard either, I proceeded to fix that.
3. 1/4 usage there also causes a lot of questions. For example, we cna have a look at 02:28:105 (4,1) - that requires quite a lot of rapid (for the target skill level player) reaction and in comparison with the Easy we are having a huge difficulty gap. There is one part that I cannot really deal with other than using 1/4 sliders (01:30:449 - ), but I got rid of most the 1/4, primarily the ones that were in that post-kiai part.

Hope this can get addressed as well!

Zetera wrote:

Can you agree on 4.5/5/6.5/7?

Bakari wrote:

Easy difficulties have to be beginner-friendly

Stefan wrote:

Bakari wrote:

Easy difficulties have to be beginner-friendly

At least 50% of the recent Easy Difficulties nowadays aren't beginner-friendly.

1. Minor appearance fixes
2. Slight rhythm improvements
3. Spacing changes in Normal

21:15 Bakari: Hello there! 
21:28 Zetera: Hi!
21:28 Zetera: Sorry, was searching my house for something edible.
21:28 Bakari: Hope you've found something 
21:29 Zetera: Sorta, yeah
21:29 Bakari: Anyways, what do you think about using AR4.5 for both E and N  
21:29 Bakari: and 7 for H/I
21:29 Zetera: So, i did what you wanted, decreased the spacing in the normal, fixed the tickrate, got rid of the storyboard and implemented the AR spread.
21:30 Zetera: I think 5 for the E/N is a good approach to my assumption and your regulation.
21:30 Bakari: Just like Oko said, we'd have two blocks of difficulties, and still somewhat keep the experint to the point where we could happily have it ranked
21:31 Zetera: There's just this one thing that kind of bothers me.
21:31 Bakari: I feel like a monster, but 4,5 would be closer to Ar7 in terms of scaling
21:32 Bakari: Hard has the AR that is just right and comfortable, while Insane has it slower than the recent standards require 
21:32 Bakari: Same would be with E/N and Ar 4,5 
21:32 Zetera: I am wondering if it actually alienates the experience if I choose a higher AR, going away from the rhythm game mechanic to a reaction-based gameplay.
21:32 Zetera: I mean, I thought I found a value that beginners could handle easily.
21:33 Zetera: Since I haven't seen any late clicking in the replays.
21:33 Bakari: Well, take the same PewDiePie let's play as an example 
21:33 Bakari: Do you see why he was clicking so early? 
21:34 Zetera: What I figure is that he clicked too early because there was too much on the screen for too long.
21:34 Zetera: Another idea is that he did not focus on the music at all.
21:35 Bakari: I personally was pretty sure it's the second option 
21:35 Zetera: But isn't this somehow connected?
21:37 Zetera: I am not sure whether implementing high AR takes this away or actually supports the development process.
21:37 Zetera: More than that, I am even confident that both can happen.
21:37 Bakari: I'm quite far from concepts of teaching, but I think that making players react on objects rather than adjust to the rhythm is what AR7 does
21:38 Bakari: And when they get decent scores for reactions, rather than rhythms 
21:38 Bakari: Players adjust to whack-em-all mechanics, rather than learn how to keep the rhythm
21:39 Zetera: But that is only one assumption.
21:39 Zetera: The contrary to that is that players come to know the right timing much earlier and they then adapt to other maps.
21:39 Zetera: I'm thinking "introduction", not "advancement".
21:40 Zetera: Also, we don't know if they will adapt that whack-em-all mechanic or if they will be able to assign rhythm better to the objects. I hope you can understand what I mean, as my explanations are horrible.
21:41 Zetera: But basically, this is why I wanted to see this ranked with the stats they were qualified with
21:41 Zetera: To see what influence this has on players
21:41 Zetera: However this is pretty hard without any comparison
21:42 Bakari: I kind of get it, yeah. But I still want it to be lowered to a reasonble point, where you would see the impact higher AR would have 
21:42 Zetera: Makes sense, but is there a lower value that does exactly that?
21:43 Zetera: I reckon that 4.5 is not enough.
21:43 Bakari: 4,5 on the easier two diffs is somehow equeal to AR7 for H/I diffs
21:43 Zetera: How come?
21:44 Zetera: Also, AR7 looks very slow, which was my goal for the higher diffs, but not for the lower ones.
21:45 Bakari: It looks just alright on Hard, though :p
21:46 Bakari: and we would have something similar running with E/N diffs (if we count 4,5 as comfortable AR for the Easy)
21:47 Bakari: Comfrotable, as this would still require faster clicking, while working relatively well with SV and spacing
21:48 Zetera: Come on, let's make it 5 so there's less waiting involved.
21:48 Zetera: 5/5/7/7.
21:48 Bakari: Are you sure? 
21:50 Zetera: Hm, how do I say this..
21:50 Bakari: Sure you want to tyr it?*
21:51 Zetera: When we choose AR4.5, I figure there will be more of a time frame that newer players might do hit errors in than when using 5, while both are still values that are easily recognizable.
21:51 Zetera: This is why I thought 7 is also okay, but you said it looked disruptive.
21:52 Zetera: Because I assumed 7 is also well-readable for beginners.
21:52 Zetera: Well, hoped*, not assumed*
21:52 Zetera: So I am pretty confident that 5 works.
21:52 Zetera: Though I was also confident 7 was okay.
21:52 Bakari: Alright, here's the thing 
21:53 Bakari: Let's go hrough the set, I'll make sure the rest is good to go 
21:53 Zetera: Okay, I'm ready
21:54 Zetera: Got to update once more though.
21:54 Bakari: When we are over with it I'll try to get used to AR5 and think it over 
21:54 Bakari: If I have no more questions, I'm bubbling it no problem 
21:54 Bakari: I'll have to provide the log, though. Hope this is fine with you!
21:54 Zetera: Sure thing.
21:56 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/950640 Epik High - Fly [Easy]]
21:57 Bakari: 01:02:324 (1) - can we move the tail a little bit down, mainly for appearance, but also to make sure nobody clicks the tail by mistake 
21:58 Zetera: Oh, good idea!
21:59 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/898114 Epik High - Fly [Normal]]
22:00 Bakari: 00:18:730 (2,1) - have you guys tested the jumps on low ranked players as well? 
22:01 Bakari: I have a feeling they wouldn't drop off them, but rather go all the way, failing hard
22:01 Zetera: No, I did not test that.
22:03 Bakari: the drop-off concept is more of an advanced thingy
22:03 Bakari: that I don't really expect to be picked by players at these stages of growing 
22:04 Zetera: True, I figured slider-100s are not too likely here, since it's only a 1/1 slider.
22:04 Zetera: I adjusted that and restructured the diff up to 00:29:980 - .
22:04 Bakari: 00:37:011 (3,4) - I assume that these guys might also need some attention 
22:04 Bakari: 00:41:230 (4,1) - whoa, x2.0 is a pretty serious thing here
22:05 Zetera: Ctrl+g on 00:37:011 (3) -
22:05 Bakari: 00:46:386 (1,2,3) - this is relatively fine in terms of spacing 
22:06 Bakari: however, when you visually place them in such a vai, it suggests a 3/2 gap between (2) and (3)
22:07 Bakari: 00:58:574 (1,2,3) - this is a creative idea, if there is a way to make it used in a hard, please try it there? 
22:07 Zetera: What do you suggest instead?
22:09 Bakari: move (3) away, so the spacing change still can be felt here, but it's not that obvious visually
22:09 Bakari: http://puu.sh/oxOKK.jpg
22:10 Zetera: Okay, tried that.
22:13 Bakari: 01:22:949 (1,2,3) - love this. simplem neat and works great with the vocals 
22:14 Zetera: Thank you. c:
22:14 Bakari: 01:42:636 (3) - I love this one and it seems to be readable due to sliderticks 
22:15 Bakari: The question is, do you think players will be able to pick the slowdown well?
22:15 Bakari: 02:07:480 (4,1) - somethingsomething
22:16 Zetera: The slowdown is not too harsh, it is well visible and there are not too many sliders used in the previous bit, so I'd say the slowdown is just fine
22:17 Bakari: 02:27:636 (3,4) - you probably know it 
22:17 Zetera: Used Ctrl+G
22:17 Bakari: well, if you think is fine, I will agree with you on that one
22:17 Bakari: Ctrl+G sometimes affects hitsounding, have a look into that as well, while we are at it!
22:17 Zetera: I always do, no worries.
22:18 Bakari: 02:53:886 (3,4) - a tiny spacing increase to make sure nobody reads it as 1/4 would help out a lot!
22:19 Bakari: 02:54:824 - also, I would probably try to make that beat here clickable by placing a circle or arranging the following (5) in some way 
22:19 Zetera: Done and I added a NC because it includes the first beat of the next period
22:19 Zetera: I used a sliderend because it was a 3/4 slider + a circle before.
22:21 Zetera: Okay, used a 1/1 instead and a circle at the big line, that one now carries a NC
22:21 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/625661 Epik High - Fly [Hard]]
22:22 Bakari: how about making 01:00:214 (1) - the beat here a bit more stressed with a jump and a bit of rhythm changes? http://puu.sh/oxPyr.jpg
22:24 Bakari: 01:37:011 (1) - as the previous sliders had only one repeat, this one took me by surprise 
22:24 Bakari: not sure if it's just my rusty skills or a thing that you'd want to change, so you decide on this one 
22:25 Zetera: You got a point, but a fix involves using a triplet at some point, so I am sort of reluctant to do that.
22:25 Bakari: Well, to be fair I still got a 300 there :p
22:26 Zetera: Oh, by the way, I kept the pattern that you liked in the normal, the one with the repeat slider at the end, since Hard now has a new, harder concept.
22:26 Bakari: Good!
22:26 Bakari: 01:40:761 (4,5) - you'd be surprise to find out that Insane has a easier pattern here :p 
22:26 Bakari: surprised* 
22:27 Bakari: Insane has a single slder while Hard has a circle+slider
22:27 Zetera: But here, it only uses one repetition.
22:30 Zetera: I mean, I could also use only the slider, but I found that to be awkward.
22:30 Zetera: I'll do it anyway.
22:30 Bakari: Up to you, you are the creator here
22:30 Bakari: 02:05:136 (5,1,2) - can we have more things like that? <3
22:31 Zetera: Oh, you like that one?
22:31 Zetera: I didn't even like that myself LOL
22:31 Zetera: Was some kind of emergency solution
22:31 Bakari: It's cool, flows really nicely
22:31 Zetera: Yeah, flow was the first priority.
22:34 Zetera: Are the other instances of that okay as well?
22:34 Bakari: Sure!
22:36 Zetera: Okay, changed the things I agreed to.
22:39 Bakari: Air is a lot like a flying in dreams, fantasy-like, smooth and everybody would want to try it once again after finishing
22:39 Bakari: Update things
22:39 Zetera: That was a really great compliment, thanks a lot c:
22:40 Zetera: Okay, updated.
22:40 Zetera: Oh wait, the AR.
22:40 Zetera: I'll ask once more. Are you fine with 5/5/7/7?
22:41 Bakari: Yeah
22:41 Bakari: I've nothing else to add
22:41 Zetera: Alright, I'll use that then.
22:42 Zetera: okay, done.
22:43 Zetera: I was not sure which of your posts I should reward you for, should I go for the post with this log?
22:45 Bakari: I guess so
22:45 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/898114 Epik High - Fly [Normal]]
22:45 Bakari: 00:58:574 (1,2,3) - can we somehow lower spacing changes there, though? It'll be sad to see it changed, but I think it needs to be done
22:45 Zetera: Did I miss something?
22:45 Zetera: Oh, of course.

Irreversible wrote:

This doesn't even matter in this case, because this diff is for sure beginner-friendly.

Sieg wrote:

that is interesting mappset...

Hello there Zetera
awesome song here, I have a few points I wanted to drop that disturbed me while I played your map

A I R
00:00:449 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - the disign here, 15 seconds break (only one on the whole difficulty) right after the start after just 2 seconds of play is irritating for replay-ability. It's kind of okay if you going to play difficulty just one time but will become tiring to wait if player want to achieve some records and going to replay difficulty over and over. The second point here is reasoning - there is no reason to place break here music-wise i.e. music phase, player rest, consistency (I can explain in details why if this is not obvious). Possible solutions will be remove 00:00:449 (1,2,3,4,5,1) or map break. Good point. This concept was however taken straight out of the already existing mapsetwhere it did not cause any inconvenience and maping this would take the character of the part after the second kiai away. Because I want it to be a specialty, I don't want to map the break and removing the pattern will neglect this important part.
00:18:964 (1) - heavily aligned to lyrics but misses the next syllable along with the strong music beat on 00:19:199 () Possible solution here will be to follow both

SPOILER

I assumed that you wanted me to map the downbeat with a clickable object, and I did that now.
00:24:355 (6) - clickable 00:24:589 () - will be great way to reflect really strong lyrics emphasis here also changed
00:26:230 (9,10) - creative upbeat placement itself but with no support from the music\hitsounding. All the lyrics and music starts from 00:26:699 (1) Consider to stress this with hitsounds. added hitsounds to stress the lyrics.
00:33:496 (6,7) - double just for the sake to be double. Next note placed on 00:33:964 (8) - makes this double stand-alone from main rhythm thus there is no reason to skip 00:33:730 () rhythm-wise. Also 00:33:730 () - is important in reflecting music\lyrics. true and fixed.
00:39:824 (1) - same as 00:24:355 (6) . Triple syllables 00:40:292 () - 00:40:527 () - 00:40:761 () - will be better reflected with 3 clickable objects. Like you did with 00:41:699 (1,2,3,4) - True, I just wanted to simplify that part. I changed it so that there are 3 clickable beats now.
01:40:761 (7) - this is sounds off because snapping is wrong(there is no music \ lyrics landing on 1/6), and hitsounds on repeat are too strong. Although I do think that the lyrics are on those 1/3s, I can see how they might be extra confusing so I simplified the pattern by using a 1/1 slider and a circle.

overall quite awesome
do not kd please, since this is not a full mod

CDFA wrote:

So I'll do an actual mod post.

Okay, first off, I used the hitsonds copier made by grumd. Super helpful tool, but it does not inherit all sounds that are placed in the original difficulty (e.g. sliderwhistles are completely neglected). Without those, a lot of the original quality will obviously go lost. I understand this but I didn't care. Not that someone has actually complained (more or less properly), I accept that I did a mistake without hesitation. However, this does not mean that the whole mapset needs to be dragged into crap, be it AR issues or just the hitsounds. I'd like you to consider thinking about your approaches and to make them less offensive. This is just a map.

So I'm open to discussing the neccessity for low AR. However, the biggest issue I had with the high AR in the easy is that it had NO relation to the SV. AR puts a mental expectation on the speed of the map, and the distance of things. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/252238 <- this map has AR10 (or something, I'm too lazy to check the specifics, but it's fast), and the beginning plays fucking retarded because like these things are coming out of nowhere and you're building up the expectation that the rest of the map will move fast, but then it's "hurr durr slow." Granted, this is a different case because this is a matter of not having multiple ARs in a map, but still, it's relevant to this. A couple other people have addressed the relation between SV and AR being a bit off and I can see how it is weird. However, the SV is not so fast that this relation can be called unrankable. Also, the song does not have crazy speed changes such as image material's, therefore the AR should not cause any problems concerning that. There is this part after the second kiai in the last diff, which is questionable, so to make my reasoning proper, I will change one aspect that someone has addressed, being the 1/1 custom stacks that make up for the most significant reading errors.

Now, I'm going to ignore the AR debacle, since while I'd love to spend all of my time on that, I'm aware that I'm really hyper-conservative when it comes to issues like that. So let's just focus on the issues that are being overshadowed by this discussion (primarily the hitsounds I talked about in my last post)

Easy:
00:00:449 (1) - I'm finding that leaving the sliderhead on a soft hotsound but leaving the sliderbody and sliderend on normal hitsounds works really effecitvely.
00:28:574 (1) - Don't put finishes where they don't belong. A lot of the groove of this map is that it's very cut and dry when it comes to the drum pattern. There's not a whole lot of the washyness that comes with cymbal usage. This is more of an issue later but I'll talk about it when I get there. I used the finish to emphasize the shouting in the background. Sure, this doesn't have anything to do with the drums, but there is a sound that can be purposefully mapped with a soft-finish.
00:30:449 (2,3) - To emphasize the "YOU" "CAN", I find that using a drumclap and then a drumnormal is effective. It kinda contradicts what I was saying earlier about the finishes and stuff, but tom drums don't really affect the groove of the music. But I understand if you don't wanna put them in for authenticity sake. I originally preferred the soft whistle because it resembles the "you" sound closer than anything else, but on second thought, the drum sounds might be better structurewise, so I went with those.
00:34:667 (3) - clap? added
00:35:136 (4) - clap on sliderend? One of the examples of hitsounds that the hitsounds copier logically doesn't adopt.
00:41:230 (2) - clappp??? added
00:41:699 (3) - The thing is that you've already established your clap as following the snare drum, so it sounds out of place when you have it suddenly following vocals. I think it'd be cool if you just did drumwhistles instead. Good point, changed in all diffs. However, I left one beat untouched because it is in place of a snare.
00:43:574 (1) - and now you're changing the groove from hitnormals on every large white tick to every tick? If you want to go for a build-up, since this is approaching the kiai, you might want to play more with volume, and make things gradual. DIdn't intend to do a build-up like this, so I ended up changing this into a soft sound.
00:46:386 (1,2) - same suggestion as before with the toms
00:49:199 (3) - So this is going to be a blanket statement for everything else because this is the point where I realized that hitsounds were an issue in this particular mapset. So this song really sparesly uses its cymbals. Which is fantastic, because then the points when they are using it are much more emphasized. What you've done is kind of added your own cymbals, and most important normal-hitfinishes, one of the heaviest hitsounds in the game. They sound mega out of place and are super unneccesary. They weren't that popularised tho throughout the st, I guess I added them as a no-brainer
00:51:074 (1) - And then the claps just kind of dissapear fixed all claps in all diffs.
00:54:824 (1) - and then when finishes actually exist, they're not put in the map ...and all finishes.
01:04:199 - So for this particular section, the hitsounds are just aaaaa. Like, for music of this genre, and a LOT of genres that are popular in osu!, it's built upon a principle that the drums keep a consistent beat, and your hitsounds should reflect that. You've previously established that your hitclaps are being used to emulate the snare drum, which is being hit every 2nd and 4th beat of every measure. When you do things like this, the groove gets messed up and it sounds really weird. It's incredibly inconsistent and doesn't even really do anything to benefit the map since there's nothing indicating that the consistent groove should be changed. This is why whistles, drum hitsounds, and other things exist to be your auxillary hitsounds, so you can use those to emphasize rather than the hitsounds that's being used to keep the groove. drastically limited the claps into a sensible pattern while still maintaining a bit of variation, I hope it is fine like that.
I hate making long mod posts so just kinda apply the general things I've said to the entire diff.
02:32:324 (1,1) - This is like mega boring, to have so much space in between. Especially when it has the higher AR, this must have been a LONG time to just sit and stare at an empty screen. I understand that you wanna follow the backing vocals, but you should do so in a way that consistently keeps the player engaged in the game. Also, a lot of people aren't really fans of "blocky" sliders, but I use them all the time so I won't be the one that will tell you to change them. Be aware of that though. I figured the sliders would cover the most. I added some more by using the downbeats that were previously at the slider ends.

Quick scan through your other diffs

Normal:
I feel like this is more of an advanced diff since this diff has a lot of 1/4 and is significantly faster than the Easy diff. I uhhhhhh. . . I'll let BNs decide on this I guess??????? If I were in the BN I might give you shit about this but since I'm not like idgaf lol I'm tired. Well the way I map is that I downgrade from the highest to the lowest diff, and I somehow didn't do this for the Easy, but patternwise the Normal it in fact something inbetween Easy and Hard,, I'm not making any other classifications. So in my books there is not really a difference between Normal and Advanced if you don't intend to add more than one diff between those two. Thus it wouldn't matter if it was Advanced-ish.
00:28:574 (1) - I use these a lot and I love them, it's become a trademark of my mapping style. The thing that makes these effective are 2 things. (1), that the linkage happens at the endpoint of the 1st slider and the middle of the 2nd slider (which you did), and (2), that there are no overlaps (which you didn't do). The overlaps make an otherwise clean pattern look messy and cramped. Try to adjust something to make the overlap dissapear. The overlap didn't appear as particularly convoluted to me, however the end of the second slider (the circle) was below the track of the previous one. So I made the end of the first slider point towards the second slider and the tracks still override themselves. But the outline of the second slider is clear enough. I did that on multiple other occasions throughout the diff.
01:17:324 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1) - Like since you have this as a break in Easy and you're really not doing much effective things here, why not make this a break as well? I intended to have an ABAB-pattern spread, but you are probably right. It might even help the spread a little.
01:30:449 (1,2,3) - So firstly, hitnormals pls to emphasize this. Percussive effects like these generally benefit from being made hitnormals in a hitsoft map. Secondly, this. . . it's a little confusing since it kind of isn't the rhythm. The rhythm is notated as so in osu! terms ( http://puu.sh/oyivW/2d711f0a81.jpg ). However, that's really fucking hard for a normal diff. So I'd suggest leaving out (3) entirely. It makes (1), (2), and (3) all equidistant, which is kinda cool, and allows players to not have to play guesswork when playing this pattern. I'm not a fan of this since this ignores sounds, but fine. It is much easier to cope with.
03:03:964 - why the change in comboing? Those used to be small jumps.

Hard:
00:00:449 (1,2,3,4,5) - normal hitwhistles are the most invasive of hitsounds, so you really only want to use them when you're at a loud part. A build-up with no drums is not one of those times. Make this a gradual crescendo, since that's what this is anyway lol Made a crescendo with soft sliderwhistles and one normal hitwhistle at 00:01:855 - because it contains a sound that I'd like to emphasize.
01:28:574 (3) - this is just ugly lol okay
02:06:074 (1) - never do this ever. This is the equivalent of getting a food stain on a white shirt. The map is so clean and well crafted and then you just kinda push this slider in and suddenly it looks messy and untridy. I actually got good feedback on this, so I'll keep it. Sorry!

Insane:
00:00:449 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - samsies are hard. Or honestly if you just dropped the volume like 20% or something this might work. As said, I made a crescendo for all diffs.

yeah so uhhhhh I'm hoping the AR debate doesn't kind of overrun the fact that the easy needs a lot of cleaning in terms of hitsoundsing, and a few other things need to be polished. It's an otherwise okay map (the yeahyeahyeahhh version is a personal favorite of mine so I'm gonna always believe that that one is better, lol ).

Fort wrote:

hi zetera

Okorin wrote:

could 02:43:574 (1) - in easy love the hp bar a bit less it just looks really dumb given that you have SO MUCH SPACE to like... not do that lol
thats all
you could have kept the "very simple SB" tbh all you had to do in order to keep it would have been cutting the images properly lol