1. ADVANCED - 4Key (2.53 stars, 710 notes)
2. BASIC - 4Key (1.19 stars, 232 notes)
3. EXHAUST - 4Key (3.36 stars, 965 notes)
4. NOVICE - 4Key (1.85 stars, 443 notes)

BladesofSteel wrote:

Hello, here is a timing check from me.

The BPM is correct. But you will need to add another timing point (Red) at Offset 50896.

You can do this by adding the timing point, then un-checking the box beside the words 'Inherit previous timing settings'.

PnX wrote:

From PnX's modding queue

MY MODS

NOVICE
Some of Vocal LN should be removed. It not the main sound. Can you please specify/give examples of which LNs? ><
01:32:405 (92405|2,92510|3) - Remove this one. I want you to specify piano in NOVICE Diff. Agreed. I think I should've done that
01:32:299 (92299|3) - Add This. Done! I also re-patterned and add it has a hand for match the next two notes.

ADVANCE
00:29:553 (29553|1,29976|2,30187|2,30398|1) - Remove? Agreed. Also re-patterned for pitch.
00:36:314 (36314|2,36736|2,36948|2,37159|1) - Remove? Agreed. Did the same thing as above too.
00:36:842 - Add a double note. I will consider as from 00:27:652 - 00:40:328 - I've been using 1/2 snap/beat. I'm afraid that players would find it un-smooth if a 1/4 snap/beat note suddenly appeared.

EXHAUST
00:31:560 - What about this? No, I think the piano sound is too soft to be necessary added. Plus I tried it out but the gameplay didn't feel right. Sorry!
00:34:835 - Here too. No. I hear it too but from 00:34:412 - 00:39:483 - I feel that it's when the drum sound kicks in and becomes the main sound hence I think it's too soft and isn't necessary to add a note here.
00:35:574 - ?* No, Sorry! Same reason as above,
00:38:955 - ?* No, Sorry! Same reason as above,
00:41:067 - Add some note. Done! Nice catch! Also re-patterned for smoother gameplay.
01:08:637 (68637|1) - ?** Done!
01:15:398 (75398|2) - ?** Done!
01:22:158 (82158|2) - ?** Done! Wow, nice catch!
01:23:320 - Add some note. No thanks, I think it's too soft plus I tried adding it and playing it, I feel that it makes the gameplay 'un-smooth'.
01:24:165 - Add some note. No thanks, same reason as above.
01:28:919 (88919|2) - ?** Done!
?* = You might add some note. I hear a sound explicitly.
?** = Remove? Not all white line must have a note. These all are some of example.

Thank you very much! :'3
GL >.<

Shiro-neechan wrote:

Hello there.....I'm still beginner for modding and i hope you like my mod

4k column l 1 l 2 l 3 l 4 l
green-if you see that color, my suggestions
red- if you see that color, note/reminder

EXHAUST Mod

00:42:229 - add one note at column 2 Done!
00:43:919 - add one note at column 1 Done!
00:44:342 - add one note at column 3 Done!
00:46:032 - add one note at column 1 Ahh I moved 00:46:137 (46137|3) - down to 00:46:032 at column 4 instead as I realised the sound is at 00:44:342 Nice!
00:46:454 - add one note at column 4 Done!
00:48:144 - add one note at column 1 Done!
00:48:567 - add one note at column 3 Done!
00:48:989 - add one note at column 4 Done! Wow these were very nice catch on my notes consistency!

Don't worry your mod is awesome. Salute >w<7

Crusts wrote:

hi from my queue
sorry if delay It's okay, I'm sorry for not responding earlier instead, was busy. ><

Col : 1|2|3|4

mod

Advanced
OD change into 8 Will consider as I wanna check difficulties settings with a BAT so yeah. However, thanks for pointing it out.

00:40:539 (40539|1,40645|2,40750|1,40856|2,40962|1,41067|2) - this part better make like this ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4631179 Nice, I actually re-patterned this part again afterwards after some try and error, nice suggestion though! XD
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00:41:173 - add note at 1 Done but different column due to above reason.
00:42:651 (42651|1) - move to 4 ? Considering as I might change the patterns.
00:42:863 (42863|3,42968|2,43074|1) - make this into 321 stair(if above accepted) Considering, same as above reason.
00:47:511 (47511|0,47827|3) - ctrl + h Considering, likely not accepting as gameplay felt weird when I tried it out.
00:49:201 (49201|0,49306|3,49412|1) - 123 stair ? Considering as I might change the patterns.
From 00:41:173 - 00:50:891 - I repatterned most stuffs while keeping most of your suggestions in mind, thanks.
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01:12:123 (72123|0,72123|3) - make into 12 jump No thanks, will result in weird pitch placement.
01:12:334 (72334|0,72334|3) - ^ 34 jump No thanks, same reason as above. To me the sound is the same so I placed them on the same column.
01:15:503 (75503|2) - move to 2 No thanks, I felt that the gameplay feels smoother if it's at 3.
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01:15:609 (75609|0,75820|3,76031|3,76137|2,76243|1) - ctrl+h if you are going to make a mirror of this part 01:08:848 (68848|0,69060|3,69271|3,69376|2,69482|1) -
01:22:369 (82369|0,82581|3,82792|3,82898|2,83003|1) - repattern don't make the exact same thing ._. from this part 01:08:848 (68848|0,69060|3,69271|3,69376|2,69482|1) - at least make it different a bit
01:25:644 (85644|3,85644|0,85855|0,85855|3,86067|0,86067|3,86383|1,86383|2) - this part too ._. there are the same thing in 1 part
at least make the placement a bit different
01:29:130 (89130|0,89341|3,89552|3,89658|2,89764|1) - ^
Will consider and try, I do not really want to flip the pattern, I only do so when there isn't really a specific pitch but during the song. However during those parts, I could clearly hear that the pitch drops from high to low thus the same patterns, sorry about that. If more future mods talks about these pattern, I'll do something about it. For now I'll just change the drum sound patterns.
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01:31:876 - just for fun make it like this ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4631204 Done, totally liking yours better! ^^

Novice
00:13:286 (13286|3,13497|2,13708|1,13919|0) - change into normal note Will consider as the piano sound drags in my opinion.
00:16:666 (16666|1,16877|3,17088|0,17300|2) - don't make too much complicated placement like this LN I'm sorry but this is very vauge, how is it complicated? Checking with the pattern reading difficulties, I find this that this pattern is reasonable for Novice ( Normal ) difficulties. Do you have any suggestions for this part?
00:25:962 (25962|1,26173|1,26384|2,26595|2) - make this into 1234 stair No, this pattern was made according to the pitch of the sound. Stair doesn't seem suitible for this part to me.
00:53:003 (53003|3) - delete really awkward here Agreed, done.
01:00:714 (60714|0,60820|3,60926|0,61031|3) - change placement like this ? I'm sorry, what do you mean?
01:05:257 (65257|2,65679|2) - move to 1 ? hand balance Agreed but changed 01:04:412 (64412|1,64834|1,65257|2,65679|2) - one column to the left instead.
01:12:123 (72123|0,72334|0) - make this 2 into 42 No thanks, would result in incorrect pitch.
01:32:933 (92933|3) - 2 is enough for novice diff No thanks, a hand is actually relatively easy for 4k Novice.

things in general on your map is too much same thing i see in here
prefer too make a different placement
Yes, I am terribly sorry at that if it wasn't pleasant when you played/testplayed it. ;w;
For me I think for pattern-wise, pitch is more important than making different patterns as from what I've learnt it's usually low pitch from left to high pitch to the right in the mania keys, I would like to actually make a map that really flows along with the music as I want them to enjoy the music too with the map, so I actually try to match the notes to both the vocal and instruments ( mainly ). I do not know if this is right or wrong but I would really just want to make a map that's enjoyable with the music and hopefully interesting too.

for exhaust the OD is too high change it into 8.5 Will consider as I wanna check difficulties settings with a BAT, thanks for pointing it out.

that's it my mod gl on your map
Thanks, I really appreicate it!

Abraxos wrote:

asdfadsafdsafdfasdfasdfasdfas

impromptu mod why do i do this to myself every time

General

1. BPM and Offset : ( ✓ )
2. Aimod : ( × ) check for EXH, unsnapped note Done!
3. Kiai : ( ✓ )
4. Metadata : ( ✓ ) cant check properly because i dont japanese
5. Video : ( × ) plz resize to 1366x768, even if its off by 1 Done!

will do EXH only, maybe will come back for others. I'm grateful for your mod already so no worries! >w</

EXH

EXHAUST

1. 00:13:180 (13180|1,13391|1,13603|1,13814|1,14025|1) - hm. current pattern is fine, but id would appreciate it even more if the drums were emphasized more with thrills. something like this would work fine in giving the drums a greater buildup per se. Mmm done!
2. 00:16:349 (16349|0,16349|2,16666|1,16666|3) - sounds like they are the same, only the second one is drawn out more. would understand if you didnt want to have them in the same columns, but maybe you should cuz 00:18:673 (18673|1,18673|3,18990|3,18990|1) - are in the same situation but are in the same columns Ah! I made it that way because I was following 00:17:088 (17088|0,17088|2,17300|0,17300|1) - pattern but flipped. Applied something similar to your idea though.
3. 00:18:990 (18990|1,18990|3,19412|1,19412|3,19729|3,19729|1,20046|1,20046|3) - btw why are all these in the same columns lmao Oh my god xDDD Probably made it that way when I was placing notes to pitch, silly me. Rearranged.
4. 00:21:736 (21736|2) - move to 2, see above and 00:21:736 (21736|2,21736|3,22053|3,22053|2,22370|3,22370|2) - Donee.
5. 00:28:286 (28286|2) - id overlook this because this song was retarded here and decided to have the synth on the blue tick but i strongly suggest you to shift this down by 1/4 due to the fact that vocal mapping isnt really encouraged for mania. !!!!! Done
6. 00:27:018 (27018|3,27018|0) - pretty much a ghost note if you check it with hitsound effects turned to 0%. the drums are in 1/8s so it kinda goes like this. Ah I originally had a pattern similar to this but a person didn't really like it so I changed it to 1/4 snap. To be honest I still like my previous pattern so I'm following yours :3
7. 00:28:391 - i assume you dont mean to miss this synth? Yep, oh and, realised wrong pitch placement, so I rearranged it.
8. 00:28:286 - sound here is very alike 00:28:708 - both sound like a deep bassy twang in the music. ignoring vocals, should this tick have a note then? I believe so.
9. the streams you have here are really hard to comprehend. i mean, they do play well, but when it comes to it being consistent with the music itself it kinda suffers. maybe its just how the song is, with the pretty complicated mix of piano synth and drum, but then again whatever i seem to list above kinda goes against that. i assume you do know what you are doing when it comes to note placement, so ill just leave that alone for now. maybe itll be good to get second opinions on the legitimacy of the 1/4 streams, or you could just review them yourself. I'll keep this in my mind. To be honest, I was having problems mapping the streams because it was hard to hear the uh.. background 'twang' sound due to the vocal -_-. But from the testplays I've seen, they're mostly okay.
10. from now on ill be complaining about playability. since i played this on DT i would be kinda complaining from the perspective of DT, but it kinda applies for this map too, since you mentioned how this was for beginners. Okay I understand.
11. 00:26:807 (26807|0,26807|3,26807|1) - a BG synth rises to the highest pitch when this chord comes so id suggest you differentiate it from 00:26:173 (26173|0,26173|3,26173|1). also removes some of the stacks carried over into the streams (assuming you applied the 1/8 drums before) Done~
12. 00:36:103 (36103|1,36314|1,36525|1,36736|1,36948|1,37159|1) - asfdasaf do this plz. current stacks make the left hand uncomfortable. Ok! ... Holy crap it's much better now xD
13. 00:37:898 (37898|2,38110|1) - should be doubles? they are kicks after all, and this is a exh diff so it should be a little denser. Yes I totally agree, lol.
14. 00:39:905 (39905|3,40117|3,40328|3,40539|3,40750|3,40962|3,41173|3) - stack ends with LN, would strongly encourage to change. Yas, done.
15. 00:41:173 (41173|3) - what is this following? isnt vocals, isnt the piano cuz of the other missed piano notes here, they kinda seem arbitrary to me except for the fact that they all are the same sets here.
16. 00:41:173 (41173|3) - _00:41:173 (41173|3) - intentionally missed piano?
17. 00:45:820 -_ 00:43:708 -_00:47:933 - ^^^
    I'm not entirely sure but it was supposed to be mapped to the piano, I don't really know if I did it exactly because the vocal makes it really hard for me to hear it porperly like, I'm not sure if 00:41:173 (41173|3) or 00:41:173 (41173|3) has a piano sound or not because it's barely hear-able. So I just map the notes to the drums and and piano sounds I could hear. In the end I still added them just incase, let's see what happens when a BN checks the map
18. 00:49:623 (49623|3,49623|1) - are you sure about giving vocals a double? i thought the difference with the impact of instruments and vocals should be there. Opps, fixed!
19. 01:06:736 (66736|0,66788|1,66841|2,66894|3) - shift down by 1/8, check with 25% playback on 0% effect volume if unsure.maybe something like this. turns it into a jumpthrill. you should ditch a note at the first chord of the 1/8s since the jacks it creates makes it bleh. I always knew something's off about this part, now I know why. xD
20. 01:13:496 (73496|0,73549|1,73602|2,73655|3) - same as above, check this if you want a suggestion. Yesh please.
21. 01:18:672 (78672|2,78883|2,79095|2,79306|2,79517|2) - these right hand biased streams arent really smooth on DT, so id suggest a similar thrill pattern i suggested above. variation of the above suggested, gives you an idea of what im driving at. Aye
22. 01:20:257 (80257|0,80310|1,80362|2,80415|3) - same as above. btw i ditched the doubles at 01:20:151 (80151|3,80151|2) - and changed it over to 01:20:362 (80362|2) - because i feel as if the crash there is much stronger and it kinda complements the 1/8 burst well too, and with 01:20:151 (80151|3,80151|2) - it makes it a little too awkward to play. Agreed.
23. 01:26:806 (86806|1,86912|3) - interestingly enough you changed your mind here apparently and now these are singles.
24. 01:27:017 (87017|0,87070|1,87123|2,87176|3) - same as above, you should know how to fix it by now
    Silly BFN strikes again. Both fixed!
    

overall structure seems solid, a few very annoying inconsistencies here and there. if you were to just give it to me just for a testplay i would say this is a solid map, but on further digging the inconsistencies do surface. not bad for a first map if it is your first map. Thank you very much >3</

i am not too sure about the streams you have, they seem pretty hard to define in it of itself, and it kinda bugs me to no end. I am terribly sorry for that, I will improve in making streams next time I map again.

nice HS btw, dont we all agree that HS is the devil amongst us. Thank you! Hitsound = most boring and hardest part during mapping imo.

hope this mod helped somewhat, good luck with rankz <3 aaaaaaaaaaaa \;w;/

edit: matey if you didnt agree with whatever i said then tell me. dont just leave all my efforts in the field lying like that and leave this dying ; its extremely patronizing and makes me think as if whatever i did is utter rubbish.

i tried rationalizing the fact that youve disregarded the mod by saying that you didnt have time to check your map and edit it, but yet you seem to tell me that youve had had time to come online and change your DP and set scores and chat in #osumania? what are you thinking? have you given up on this map? did you disagree with my mod to such an extent that you didnt want to work on this map? were you perhaps discouraged by it? come on now, you know it isnt nice to let my efforts go to waste. seriously, at least get back to me. its been 16 days already.

edit2: turns out my first assumption about the lack of time was right. apologies if edit seemed a little aggro, i needed confirmation back that youre still there and you didnt give up on this map ;w;7 Gomennnn

LuckyLemon wrote:

Hi :p 你好

Columns 1|2|3|4

NOIVE

00:52:581 - maybe add this instead to prevent the little bit of awkward in column 4 Oo, done.

1. 01:02:193 - change to a double
   01:02:510 - change to a double (sounds similar to other doubles)
   No thanks. It doesn't feel right for me.

01:26:912 - add note to column 2, maybe 3 Opps, missed that, added to 2!
01:27:229 - delete note !! Done and shifted notes

1. 01:27:545 - add note in column 3 - continue with the stream
   01:27:757 - add note in column 1
   01:27:968 - add note in column 3
   I get your idea why but no thanks, I wanna focus on the main sounds only for Novice

Note: The following changes increase the star difficulty from 1.76 to 1.8 Didn't apply so... owo

You misspelled NOVICE :3...

ADVANCED

from 00:25:011 - 00:26:807 - no use of column 1. Maybe change 00:26:384 (26384|2,26595|2) - to column 1? Woops! Done.
00:27:441 (27441|2) - add the little burst here like this Will consider. ( Burst is 1/8 btw. )

1. 00:40:117 - burst starts there.
   00:40:222 - add note in column 2
   00:40:434 - add note in column 1
   Added notes and rearranged

01:13:074 - add note same sound as the one prior (1/2 a beat) Done!

EXHAUST

00:14:342 - if you make that a triple you will also need to make the following into triples in order to maintain consistency 00:16:032 (16032|0,16032|3,17722|3,17722|2,19412|1,19412|2,21103|3,21103|2,22793|2,22793|1,24483|2,24483|3) - Ah my bad, fixed.
00:57:651 - make into triple. To avoid making the transition to hard i recommend deleting note in column 4 from 00:57:545 - Accepted!

Good luck with the map Thanks~

1. 00:00:610 note isn't snapped, check your AiMod
2. 00:27:018 this snare roll should start 1/8 beat sooner (on the half beat), i think it sounds weird with the actual timing.
3. 00:45:398 missing a note for the crash cymbal (i suggest putting it on 4th collumn)
4. 00:51:630 missing a note for the nuanced kick (suggesting 3rd or 4th collumn)
5. 00:55:644 ^ (suggesting 1st collumn)
6. 01:32:299 a jump to emphasize the vocals for the outro would be better
7. 01:32:616 ^

Kernaus wrote:

Hi ! Hello there! :d

This is my first attempt at modding, so i apologize if anything sounds dumb to you or if the post itself isn't very well written, but i'll try my best to help you in this. Thank you!


EXHAUST

1. 00:00:610 note isn't snapped, check your AiMod ! done.
2. 00:27:018 this snare roll should start 1/8 beat sooner (on the half beat), i think it sounds weird with the actual timing. Checked with 25% Playback Rate, there's no snare sound there hence not adding.
3. 00:45:398 missing a note for the crash cymbal (i suggest putting it on 4th collumn) Woops! Done
4. 00:51:630 missing a note for the nuanced kick (suggesting 3rd or 4th collumn) d
5. 00:55:644 ^ (suggesting 1st collumn) d
6. 01:32:299 a jump to emphasize the vocals for the outro would be better I'm assuming you meant 'hand' because it's already a jump. ( Jump = 2 notes ) I was afraid that it'll result in awkward pattern because of the jack it'll make but when I tested it, it was fine I guess. Added.
7. 01:32:616 ^ Confused, are you telling me to add a chord?

Well, that's all i was able to find, i might take some time to check the other diffs. hope you found this helpful, good luck getting your map ranked o/ It was helpful ;3

lejel wrote:

你好~ よろしくお願いします～
Modding timee :3 Yaaaay
Sorry if it isn't that good ._. Don't worry, a mod is still a mod and it'll definitely help.

Column 1|2|3|4

NOVICE

00:00:821 (821|3,821|2,2511|3,2511|2,4201|3,4201|2,5891|3,5891|2) - (suggeestion only) change one of them to LN like this maybe? I don't really like the idea of having LN at the starting because it feels weird but I'll consider
00:37:793 (37793|2,38215|1,38215|3) - (suggestion) like this? to fit the drum doe Will consider too.
00:50:891 (50891|1) - double Done.
01:25:644 (85644|0,85855|0,86067|0) - same exact position as before, maybe move to column 4 Done and re-arranged!
01:32:299 (92299|1,92299|3,92299|0,92616|2,92616|3,92616|0) - It's true that they have the same chord as 01:32:933 (92933|1,92933|2,92933|3) but the LN has cymbal so I suggest to make them different I actually once tried making the last one a chord but I'm not sure if that'll become a ranking issue. I'll try though! Applied to other difficulties too.

ADVANCED

Remember Seiryuu saying that it's kinda boring? Maybe because the placement are almost the same..? idk doe XD but personally I like variative placement even if the pattern is the same Thanks :'3
Maybe add these 00:27:018 (27018|0,27071|1,27124|2,27176|3,27229|2,27335|0,27441|1,27546|0) like this I'm always wondering if I should add the burst pattern for the drums at this part. However, since about two people suggested the same thing, I'll add it in then.
00:34:422 (34422|3,34422|2) etc - triple for cymbals? Done
00:38:436 (38436|2) - If you follow the drum --> double/triple cause.. cymbal XD Done! x2
00:49:626 (49626|2,49626|3) - Single cause there isn't any piano sound only vocals Opps, done!
00:52:581 (52581|1,52581|3,52792|2,52792|1,53003|2,53003|0,53214|2,53214|1,53426|2,53426|3,53637|1,53637|2,53848|0,53848|1) - Whoaa doubles all the way XD Hahahaha xDDD Any suggestions for this part?
01:27:123 (87123|3,87229|2,87229|0,87334|1,87440|0) - pretty awkward, I suggest to make it like this to follow the drum Hmm, ok.
01:27:123 (87123|3,92405|1,92510|2) - Not necessary Is this a typo?
01:32:616 (92616|1,92616|0,92616|3) - (suggestion) I want to feel the ending more emphasized, so I suggest to make this double so the ending can shine (wait what..) I get what you mean but instead, I made the last note a chord.

EXHAUST

00:27:071 (27071|3,27124|2,27176|1,27229|0,27229|3,27335|2) - The drum sound different from the ADVANCED? SB? If so, I'd prefer the ADVANCED version XD Haha I'm sorry XD Re-hitsounding.
00:34:412 (34412|0,34412|1) - Triple Afraid of mini jack but I'll try.
00:38:426 (38426|0,38426|3) - Triple Mmm ok.
00:40:539 (40539|3,40539|2,40645|1,40645|0,40750|2,40750|3,40856|1,40856|0,40962|2,40962|3,41067|1,41067|0) - There are several different sound, 00:40:539 (40539|3,40539|2) isn't the same as 00:40:856 (40856|1,40856|0,40962|2,40962|3) So I suggest to make them different Re-hitsounding :p
00:56:172 (56172|0,56278|1,56383|3,56383|2,56489|1,56595|0,56700|1,56806|2,56912|1,57017|2,57123|3) - Yep, repetitive positioning Mmm I tried rearranging it.
00:57:229 (57229|0,57229|1,57334|3,57334|2,57440|1,57440|0) - You can also try adding (column) 1-3 2-4 pattern, not always 1-2 3-4 Good point.
01:04:412 (64412|0,64412|3) - Cymbal triple~ Done~
01:05:468 (65468|0,65574|1,65679|3,65679|2,65785|1,65891|0) - According to previous patterns, all of these should be doubles That doesn't make sense for me sorry, which patterns?
01:06:894 - SB sound? This doesn't really fit here with your HS Re-hitsounding! lol
01:09:482 (69482|2,69482|0) - Triplee d
01:12:862 (72862|1,72862|0) - Triplee dx2
Several SB sound miss.. 01:13:655 cymbal is too late 1 line, 01:20:415 snare doesn't really fit.. I'm re-hitsounding so no worries.
01:23:003 (83003|0,83003|3) - triple (add at column 2) Sure.
01:26:383 (86383|1,86383|0) - triple Ye.
etc for cymbals make triples (if you accept :3)
01:32:933 (92933|3,92933|2,92933|1) - Quarduple? XD Ye, not sure it'll become a ranking issue but doesn't hurt to try! :p

GENERAL

(DO THE MODS FIRST BEFORE THIS)
Ey.. urm.. Idk for sure but the beat is a bit too early if I play at 25% speed, and I suggest first offset at about 616-620 (I recommend 620 doe) Omfg you're right! also the second timing point is a bit too early.. Is it just me or..? (offset about 41180 OR delete the timing point?) also the third one (following) Not deleting the point as the Time signature is different during that part. I tried it out and 41183 was better so yeah! Seriously a life saver though, thanks!

Nice map Thank you~ :33
Good luck and thank you for asking for mod!~ Yw~

ajeemaniz wrote:

starred for now! this map gets my attention :3 Glad it did >w<b!!

[General]

i found some wave hitsounds with possible delay >5ms, here's the fix : http://puu.sh/oCgOH.rar Thank you ;w;
the timing section seems fine.. the offset is kinda early, its around +2 - +4 ms from the initial offset // fix the mod below before you apply the timing
I made the offset to 624, fixed the other timing points too upon changing.

[Novice]
i suggest to lower 1/2 LN usage in couple part and use note instead, such in 00:29:352 (29352|1,29563|0,29775|1,29986|2,30197|3,30408|2) - & 00:36:113 (36113|1,36324|0,36535|1,36746|2,36958|3,37169|2) - Okay, well I've heard some opinions about this part too from testplayers, so I guess it's wasn't a good move, applied.
00:38:436 (38436|3) -
the rest? very well made -w-b
00:40:760 (40760|0,40866|1) - ctrl + h , i won't use Trill pattern for Normal Thought about it, makes sense, applied
01:00:830 (60830|3,60936|0) - 3 2 Applied too

01:02:731 (62731|2) - you can layer 1/2 stuff around here Okay I'll try!
01:32:309 (92309|0,92626|3,92943|1,92943|2) - i would remove these, triplets & 4 noters usage could be avoided Kinda knew it wouldn't be best but it was nice to try, removed.

[Advanced]
not much stuff to fix in this diff.. good job =w=b Less stuffs to check too.
00:34:634 (34634|1) - 00:35:901 (35901|1) - you can layer the 1/4 drum beat around here to emphasize different part of song Okay I'll try,
00:37:803 (37803|0,38436|1) - too same for above
01:32:309 (92309|1,92626|3) - 01:32:943 (92943|0) - you can remove this tho Yeeep

[Exhaust]
the only stuff i disagree with this diff, is the triplet usage that being placed not in huge downbeat instead a weak spot, such 00:14:352 (14352|3) - 00:16:042 (16042|3) - 00:19:422 (19422|3) - 00:21:113 (21113|3) - 00:22:803 (22803|3) - until 00:24:493 (24493|3) - Woops, removed .w.;;
and some part you could add triplet (as i said before, huge downbeat), such 00:27:662 (27662|1) - 00:14:141 (14141|2) - and so on.. Added and re-arranged patterns!

overall, great map! Thanks ;w;, I thank all the people who helped to improve this map

i'll definitely come back for bubble after you fix those stuff above, don't forget to re-fix the hitsound after applying the hitsound! Okay I got it!

Eternalie wrote:

Hi there~ Hello~ *bows*

just sugestions about BASIC diff, hope this can help Let's see, let's see...

NO KUDOSU ! But.. but.. Okay.. D:

[Basic]

The next suggestion are all about flow and easy reading for newcomer , it's suggestions that aren't that important so it's fine to keep it the way you like it
here goes Mmmmm...

00:00:624 (624|0,835|2) - 1/2 Rythms are kinda tricky to catch for newcomers imo , Making this section as 1/1 could make things easier for them
Examples : 00:00:835 (835|2) - move this note to : 00:01:046 (1046|2) -
00:02:525 (2525|3) - this one to : 00:02:736 -
and so on
!!! Why didn't I think of that haha, well I liked your idea better so I'm using 1/1

Tho , note that it's not THAT hard either so you could keep for a little beginner 'challenge'
I guess for the 'challenge' it shall be the 1/2 like 00:06:539 (6539|3,6750|2,6962|1,7173|0,7384|1) - 00:09:919 (9919|2,10131|3,10342|1,10553|0,10764|1) - etc


00:40:553 (40553|2) - This LN feels special to play , it's not following the same instrus tham the next ones
it'd probably be better to swith this LN for a simple note , but then the rythm is quite hard , and forced on the blue line
wich isn't really simple to catch up but since it follow nicely the vocal could work Hmm I agree, the LN is actually the drum sounds but like 'compressed' into an LN, but then when I think about it when I first started, it felt more comfortable with notes charted to Vocal first so I'm applying what you suggested

(basically , remove the LN , then add note here : 00:40:659 (40659|0) - and here : 00:40:976 (40976|1) - to make a new rythm based on vocal ) Ye

00:51:855 (51855|3) - this is nice imo , the drum being louder here it's a cool idea to make the note here nice one Thank you!

Some rythm in the kiai could be abit tricky but they are managable i'd say Hopefully it'll interest new players to continue trying out Mania Mode!

That's it , Good Luck , have a nice evening / day ^^/ >w<b

Wonki wrote:

Team Symphony Mania Modding Queue

Hi owo Hello~ o wo/


0 1 2 3

BASIC

OD HP → 6.7 or 6.5 / 7 OD changed to 6.5, HP remained as 7
Hit sound good o vbo!

NOVICE

01:18:581 - should add here note to express drum 01:18:369 (78369|0,78475|1) - drum Mmm... Ok added
01:32:207 (92207|2) - for hand balance move 0 Agreed
Hit sound good\ - w-/

why denied? i think this map is fine Not really denied, checking in progress - w-b
Advanced & Exhaust - will mod other member Okay

Raediaufar wrote:

[BASIC]

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真是的...

Basic diff does have a really weird rhythm imo

00:01:046 (1046|2) - first is, this LN. Yes, I know you want to cover the piano part there but this one just plays really weird. Delete the LN and add note on 00:00:835 - and 00:01:469 -

00:02:736 (2736|3,4426|2) - same goes for these LNs, delete them and add note on 00:02:525 - , 00:03:159 - , 00:04:215 - and 00:04:849 -

00:06:117 (6117|3) - delete this too, and add note on 00:05:905 -

00:07:384 - until 00:14:145 - you can do the same thing for this part everything above agree!

00:21:117 (21117|2) - move to 4, this will give some impact for the empty sound before (idk if you understand this but yeah...) oo, i understand, agreed

00:26:821 (26821|2) - move to 2, it's not good for basic to have note on 3 after you jacking on 4, some basic players might slip their finger there hmm, ok

00:34:426 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6004420 this note placement is more fit to the rhythm of the song alright

00:38:018 - add note here, seems empty ok

00:40:659 (40659|0) - should be snapped here 00:40:764 - it is following the vocal but i will think about it

00:40:976 (40976|1) - just delete this i didnt really applied the top suggestion (yet?) so i did not apply but i'll think about it

00:41:187 - those LN on this part are just... I don't know what are you trying to follow it. I have an idea for this
00:41:187 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6004448 first part
00:43:299 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6004450 second part
00:45:412 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6004460 third part
00:47:525 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6004463 last part (before the piano) sorry no.. there are actually following the piano sounds, yes there is piano sound at that part

00:49:637 (49637|3) - just delete this, there's no sound i know what you mean but pattern feels weird without that note so no sorry
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Same goes on here, the rhythm are just weird. Uhh... I feel that what I tap and what I heard are just not sync. But don't worry I have suggestion...

00:52:595 (52595|1) - snap to 00:52:383 -

00:53:017 (53017|3) - delete LN

00:53:017 - add note here

00:54:285 (54285|0,54285|1) - no need for double here, delete one note

00:56:397 (56397|3) - delete LN

00:56:397 - add note here

01:00:200 - just add note here, I know the music really weird over there but there's a sound here.

01:02:207 (62207|2,62524|1) - i know you follow the snare here but looking for the notes before, I think it's good to just being consistent here. So delete those and add note here 01:02:313 - all above and inside the box agreed
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01:06:855 (66855|3) - change to normal note

01:07:383 - add note here

01:08:651 - add note here

01:10:235 (70235|2,71186|0) - delete, try to put notes on every 1/1 like before for this until 01:11:609 -

01:12:559 (72559|0) - change to normal note, I don't feel cover the entire tat tat tat sound with that one LN sorry but no, it is intended

01:13:616 (73616|3) - change to normal note

01:14:144 - add note here

01:14:566 - keep the 1/1 note placement until 01:16:679 -

01:16:996 (76996|3) - change to normal note

01:17:524 - add note here and keep the 1/1 again until 01:18:369 -

01:20:376 (80376|2) - change to normal note

01:20:905 - add note here

01:22:172 - add note

01:23:757 (83757|2) - change to normal note

01:24:285 - add note

01:24:707 (84707|3) - change to normal note

01:25:130 - add note here

01:26:081 (86081|3) - change to normal note sorry no, it is intended

01:27:137 (87137|3) - change to normal note

01:27:665 - add note here

01:28:933 - add note

01:30:517 (90517|2) - change to normal note

01:31:045 - add note

01:31:890 - add note

01:32:947 (92947|3) - move to 2

01:32:947 - add note on 3 all above agree except 2

Tbh this kind of song is hard to map on lower diff because of the song structure. I'm not really surprised with your pattern actually i understand, thank you for your effort!

[ADVANCED]

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00:13:300 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6004620 just make stair like this la sorry no.. i feel that it will be too plain

00:39:919 (39919|2,39919|1) - move so it's 12, to avoid anchor on 3 agree

00:47:102 (47102|0) - move to 2 ok

00:49:637 (49637|3) - change to normal i placed this note as LN to be more cosisntent with the next 00:49:848 (49848|0,49848|1,50165|0,50165|1,50482|3,50482|2) - so no, sorry

00:50:482 (50482|2,50482|3) - the sound is until this 00:50:905 - actually for consistency, i will just end it at that part but i will think about it

01:02:102 - looks like you're missing a note here

01:02:313 - ^

01:02:419 - ^ all agree

Actually I don't agree with your patterning in kiai section, it looks mess, but I just keep it as my personal opinion only. So I just throw out what other people might feel discomfort as well with your patterning on the kiai section. dont worry i am always open to opinions to improve my map

01:09:285 (69285|3,69496|3,69707|3) - this anchor is first, move 01:09:707 (69707|3,69707|2) - to 23 ok

01:18:686 - on the LN part, it's looks so empty, you might want to add some notes over there made adjustment, i removed ln and chart to drum song

01:29:355 (89355|3,89566|3,89778|3,89989|3) - a really bad anchor here. Move 01:29:355 (89355|3) - to 3 and 01:29:989 (89989|2,89989|3) - to 23 ok!

hope this helps ^^ yes it definately helped me a lot, thank you very much! nice effort too!

Protastic101 wrote:

Vocaloid yessssss *dies of happiness* and the hitsounding is 10/10 thanks aaaa

col 1->4

Weee

[General]

1. The HP seems a little too cruel for Advanced; my suggestion is to set it at 7.5.
2. OD of EXHAUST is way too high imo. The song's short and the SN:LN ratio isn't insanely big. Maybe ~8.5 at the most, but 8 probably works fine too.

sure for both

[Beginner]00:13:300 (13300|3) - I'd consider making this an LN and end at 00:14:145 to represent the drum roll here. no thanks, i havent used LN for the past whole part of the song, placing LN here seem too sudden
00:16:680 (16680|1) - Since the drums are staccato here, I'd consider moving this to 2 to make a 3 note stack with 00:17:102 (17102|0,17525|0) to make it feel as if you're anchoring the drum, if that makes sense? is this a typo? because it's already at 2 lol
00:27:032 - I also might suggest using an LN here to represent the fast drum roll here. End at 00:27:666 ? no thanks, it felt really out of place when i testplayed it
00:36:117 (36117|3,36539|2,36962|3,37384|2) - Despite only being 1/1, it's still pretty right hand heavy. Maybe move 00:36:539 (36539|2,37384|2) into 2 woops ok
00:27:666 - Add another note in 1 for the crash like at 00:38:440 (38440|1,38440|3) ? sure,
00:48:158 (48158|1,49003|1,49215|2) - Again, due to the LNs being left hand heavy, I'd consider swapping columns to look kind of like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281765 okk
01:00:200 (60200|0) - Since the pause at this note is really quiet, I'd suggest removing the note to emphasize the silence a little more. ok, nice catch
01:18:369 (78369|1,78686|2) - Swap columns? Again, this is cause of 01:17:524 (77524|1,77947|0,78369|1) which is easily avoidable. ok
01:32:947 (92947|1) - I don't think this LN is necessary since the sound cuts off after the crash. Reduce it to a short note? LN is because of the slowy fading noise of echo
btw i think u meant "basic" lol

[Novice]00:17:102 (17102|0) - Reduce this note to a short note because the sound is cut off unlike 00:16:680 (16680|1,16891|3,17314|2) which are sustained. for pattern wise, keep as LN, sudden normal note here is odd to look at
00:23:863 (23863|0) - the same from above applies here too. no, same reason as above
00:25:448 (25448|3,25448|2,25764|2,25764|3) - I'd consider making this {14} or something since the chords directly after 00:25:976 (25976|1,25976|0,26187|0,26187|1) are the complement to {34} but are 1/2, whereas 00:25:448 (25448|3,25448|2,25764|2,25764|3) is 3/4, so it's kind of a difficult transition due to how the pattern's set imo. nice, applied,
00:28:933 (28933|1,29356|1,29779|1) - this is more nitpicky, but 3 note stack but 00:29:990 (29990|2,30412|2) is only two notes. So I'd try something like this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281831 not much opinion on shifting 1/2 stream patterns so, applied,
01:10:024 (70024|3) - I'd consider moving this to 2 to avoid a minitrill with 01:10:024 (70024|3,70235|2,70447|3) which may be a little difficult to time and hit due to being on the 1/4 snap. agree

[Advanced]00:13:194 (13194|1,13405|1,13617|1,13828|1) - Oh, this stack. While it's not difficult to hit due to the moderate BPM, I would consider trying something like this instead for visuals https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281847 trill-like pattern ( which resulted in stack ) was meant to emphasis drum sound, but i get what u mean, applied ur pattern and shifted things around
00:24:708 (24708|2) - Consider moving to 1 since your previous patterning like at 00:20:905 - or 00:17:525 - doesn't use a 1/2 jack like you have at 00:24:497 (24497|2,24708|2) applied and shifted pattern around
00:30:835 (30835|2,31046|2) - Seems like an out of place jack. Maybe move 00:30:624 (30624|3) to 2 and 00:30:835 (30835|2) to 4? jack is intended, layered to the drum sound, so keep,
00:41:081 (41081|1) - Move this to 1 to continue the jack like pattern that you have where each note is 1/2 away from each other like 00:40:342 (40342|3,40553|3) - 00:40:448 (40448|1,40659|1) - and 00:40:764 (40764|2,40976|2) i think the note at 2 is fine too so, keep
00:41:187 (41187|2,41820|1) - if you accept the above, I would consider swapping columns here to avoid a 3 note stack at 00:40:764 (40764|2,40976|2,41187|2) unapplicable as i didnt
01:18:369 - This is just my visual preference but maybe try this instead? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281900 applied, pattern feels better for me too

[Exhaust]00:20:060 (20060|3,20271|1,20694|1) - Why not turn these notes into 1/2 LNs like you did in Advanced? It's to represent the sustained piano right? Exhaust focuses mainly on drums, plus, as difficulty curve, i've made them as jump, adding LN would make it unpleasant imo because ive only been using normal notes for the that whole section part of the song
00:27:243 - Right here, I'd try a roll pattern again like you did with 00:27:085 (27085|3,27138|2,27190|1,27243|0) cause it looks nicer imo, so move 00:27:455 (27455|0) to 2, 00:27:560 (27560|2) - to 1, and 00:27:666 (27666|0) to 3. You also get rid of the 3 note stack at 00:27:243 (27243|0,27455|0,27666|0) "00:27:349 (27349|2,27455|0,27560|2) - as a mini trill is representing the drum sound, also imo in hard difficulty, short 1/2 stack doesnt matter too much, also, 4321 roll pattern then 234 chord actually feels weird for the fingers to press imo."
00:30:835 (30835|3) - Jack felt a little awkward for me. Maybe move this 2? shifted patterns around
00:57:982 - This part just felt a little right hand heavy. What about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281927 accepted,

Thank you for ur hard work~

Kruzon wrote:

omg the late mod is real but ok

advanced

key column format: 1~4

00:11:187 (11187|2,11293|0) - inconsistent considering you implement identical pattern on the same rhythm 00:09:497 (9497|1,9602|2) - 00:07:807 (7807|1,7912|2) - . suggest:
00:10:976 (10976|1,11187|2) - press ctrl + g
00:11:293 (11293|0) - move to 3
00:11:504 (11504|1) - move to 1, pr

00:12:983 (12983|3) - not belong to these particular group 00:11:926 (11926|3,12243|3,12666|3) - , moreover you don't want to overshadow 00:13:300 (13300|3) - pitch by placing it on the bottom, so moving 00:12:983 (12983|3) - to 3 is more pitch-relevant

00:18:053 (18053|2,18053|3,18264|1,18370|2,18370|0) - im not sure which piano stream are you following, consider rearranging them to a more synchronized pattern-rhythm accordingly. listen closely onto the music flow

00:21:328 (21328|0,21433|1) - ctrl + g so if you agreed to this, then for consistency, do the same to this as well:
00:22:807 (22807|3) - move to 1
00:23:018 (23018|0) - move to 2
00:23:124 (23124|1) - move to 4

00:32:736 (32736|2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6371892

00:35:905 (35905|1) - equally loud as 00:35:694 (35694|1,35694|3) -

00:37:807 (37807|0,37912|1,38018|3,38018|2) - could be better. starting here 00:37:807 (37807|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6371908
00:38:652 (38652|3) - move to 1

00:39:074 (39074|2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6371917

im in rush so i'll spare you the details lol

00:47:841 (47841|1) -
00:55:975 (55975|2) -

01:19:848 (79848|1,79848|2) - 1 ~ 4
01:20:376 (80376|0) - 2
01:20:905 (80905|1) - 4
01:21:116 (81116|3,81116|0) - 2 ~ 3
01:21:327 (81327|1) - 1

oki that's all (?) suggest you to recheck the end part and um good luck with your map and uh sorry for the late mod haha

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