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Mapset and Spread Restructure (Proposed)

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Deltmin
Everyone being so negative??? :^((
Someone should really thank our Osu!academy professor for knowing exactly what the problems are in the mapping community.
Thanks ztrot !!!
:DDD
CrimsonClaw
Please argue in an objektive manner and stop posting those passive-aggressive memes.

This is addressed to all reposters who keep shitposting.
Spy
Can we insert some osu meme here
zyoi
actually rank maps are slowly decreasing
and this rule will cause no rank map xd
Enkidu
t/420229

Assuming this is what the council is for, instead of posting memes let's just fill their inboxes with our concerns. That's why they're part of congress on the Council, right?
Maruyu
I completely agree with these changes!

As a newbie player, I really hate these really good, fun-to-play, creative maps, so I really need a lower difficulty to play :D

On top of that, I play on a really low resolution, so when mappers map a lot of diffs, they make me scroll a lot on my beatmaps and that annoys the fuck out of me :c

Good job, osu! staff, I think the community will love this in time!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Anxient
dear osu!academy principal,

dont fix things that arent broken
xLolicore-
End me
Bence
no
Natsu
in first place this is a community game, WE DONT NEED A COUNCIL, we need open discussions about new rules, I hope this big disagreement, between your council and the community make you step back guys. This rule do more bad than good, listen to the comunity thanks.
Zerss
500 posts incoming
i hate pp

CrimsonClaw wrote:

Please argue in an objektive manner and stop posting those passive-aggressive memes.

This is addressed to all reposters who keep shitposting.
To be honest I feel like if I gave any insightful feedback or a good argument, it would just go ignored anyways.

This was a rule that was made out of the blue and it doesnt seem like anybody at all knew about it before hand considering the amount of QAT's and BN's getting upset over it.

The least he could have done was give a warning or make a discussion post on it whether to make it official or not
UwU Gaming

Strykerto wrote:

Well everyone, ITS TIME TO GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS
WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF PITCHFORKS AVAILABLE TODAY

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AND FINALLY, OUR BEST SELLER

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What about the Torches
Hullahopp
I demand democracy
joolomasta
All this does is limit the use of different mapping styles even further.

People have been complaining about "pp mapping" and that most of the newer maps are mapped with the same style which uses a lot of repeated back-and-forth jumps and a high OD. It's kind of relevant, because if you look at the insane difficulties in recently ranked songs, you will see that most of them fall into this mapping style.

Then there are maps that have several insanes. Often these GD insanes are mapped in a different style, which gives people of different skill levels the opportunity to enjoy the map. With the new rule, the mapper is essentially forced to delete the GD insanes and rank the map with his "pp mapping" style insane, because that is the difficulty that will get played the most. This leads to most maps having the same style insane.

TLDR: Enjoy playing the same map 100 times with a different song in the background.
RePhantom
I bought Some Pitchforks
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haha5957
wow i left a post here!
DeletedUser_3886246

Hullahopp wrote:

I demand democracy
Let's make a petetion
Pronounta
Peppy, FYI, it's valentines day in Japan, not april fools day.

Decided to make a straw poll. The results show that this certainly was the best decision regarding osu ever made. http://strawpoll.me/6805999
wailord2700

Natsu wrote:

in first place this is a community game, WE DONT NEED A COUNCIL, we need open discussions about new rules, I hope this big disagreement, between your council and the community make you step back guys. This rule do more bad than good, listen to the comunity thanks.
Deltmin

Anxient wrote:

dear osu!academy principal,

dont fix things that arent broken
Bara-

TheBestName wrote:

Strykerto wrote:

Well everyone, ITS TIME TO GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS
WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF PITCHFORKS AVAILABLE TODAY

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AND FINALLY, OUR BEST SELLER

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What about the Torches
Not enough
Dea ex machina
HOLy
Chewin

Natsu wrote:

in first place this is a community game, WE DONT NEED A COUNCIL, we need open discussions about new rules, I hope this big disagreement, between your council and the community make you step back guys. This rule do more bad than good, listen to the comunity thanks.
*gives medal*
Ace3DF
my nips are semi hard from all of this
GIDZ


NO MORE MEMES GUYS GIVE IT UP
Nelly

Ace3DF wrote:

my nips are semi hard from all of this
same
Ideal
everyone ·︻̷̿┻̿═━一 new criteria
Pen on fire

Azer wrote:

Yauxo wrote:

Did anyone actually notice this?



This literally takes all the "community" out of the "community game". Why would you even want to do that.

What the actual fuck
no fucking way this is true.. holy fuck how can anyone think this is a good idea
Zerss

G3m4sSt4ffLP wrote:

Hullahopp wrote:

I demand democracy
Let's make a petetion
I can make a petiton about the fact that we should make a petition!
Kiss of Life

Natsu wrote:

in first place this is a community game, WE DONT NEED A COUNCIL, we need open discussions about new rules, I hope this big disagreement, between your council and the community make you step back guys. This rule do more bad than good, listen to the comunity thanks.
Exactly, thanks.
Suisei XYousoro
Just leaving it here as well to sum up my reaction in a nutshell.

Lex TheGayOtter
no
Suisei Hosimati


Does staffs drank this before posting this thread
Kurosawa Dia
Insulting/threatening whoever came up with this is wrong, and the the memes (although dank) are useless, but this shouldn't need any discussion. It's a bad idea. There are no positives to it. In fact, it is the worst and most horrifying thing that might become reality since I realized Donald Trump has a legitimate shot at being president.
Niphora
This could be a big test to see if they actually care about the opinion of their community or not
1 Map per Icon makes absolutely no sense, and the Insane diff in addition to an Extra or Ultra diffs should not count for Marathon Maps.
Sylvette
When you can't open the website without it crashing in a few seconds, you know that shit is going down.
Xantaria
terrible change
worst fl player

- G I D Z - wrote:



NO MORE MEMES GUYS GIVE IT UP
Maruyu
But really now, this has to be a joke

omar it's not funny cut it out
DeletedUser_3886246


inb4 community managment center on fire
Sylvette

Xantaria wrote:

terrible change
Terrible?? No!
That's too nice of a word.
Wafu
I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
sellyme




Why exactly do we need more [Easy] and [Normal] diffs? A good difficulty spread is very important, which is why we need more Extras, not the other way around.
Ascendance
Why is there a council in the first place, that wasn't voted on DIRECTLY BY THE COMMUNITY in a COMMUNITY GAME
Zerss
Slayed_old_1
its time to delete all gds xddddd
DeletedUser_3886246

Zerss wrote:

Anxient

Wafu wrote:

I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
i cant even tell if this is sarcasm anymore but ill assume that it is for the sake of my sanity
Sylvette

Anxient wrote:

Wafu wrote:

I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
i cant even tell if this is sarcasm anymore but ill assume that it is for the sake of my sanity
same
Chewin

KuranteMelodii wrote:



Does staffs drank this before posting this thread
I don't know what you are talking about my friend.
It has been decided by 2 or 3 people, whole mapping staff is against it.
Osu Mapman

Anxient wrote:

Wafu wrote:

I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
i cant even tell if this is sarcasm anymore but ill assume that it is for the sake of my sanity
no it isn't
Zerss
should we buy the coins to revert this?
iloveyou4ever
Although I am not std player
but I don't agree with the structure
KOI_JAPAN
'exciting news'

You gonna be kidding me right?

If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
jaaakb
This would mean a lot less well made ranked insane/extra diffs. Some more hard/easy diffs. Cleaner look when looking at ranked beatmaps, probably more comparable to commercial rhytm games.

I think it'd be better to add some category that's easier to rank for this kind of spreads (one diff per category), but let people do it how it's been done.

Mappers are not working for you, they do it because they want to. This would probably make them less likely to rank a map.

Please use carrot, not stick.

Also, why is this not news on the front page?
XVoIR
hi future visitors
kyle8998
I simply cannot agree with these changes.
It's too much limitation and it's going to result in less mappers and no creativity.
worst fl player
- GIDZ - : UR MUM
[TaikoTori]

Ascendance wrote:

Why is there a council in the first place, that wasn't voted on DIRECTLY BY THE COMMUNITY in a COMMUNITY GAME
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristocracy

But anyway. This discussion can rest now. The backlash was big enough, and i am sure the staff does not want to risk huge amounts of drops in the number of active players. Its okay, guys.
Chewin

LyWang wrote:

'exciting news'

You gonna be kidding me right?

If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
lmfao yes xd
Yohanes
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JamesHappy
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good newmapping™ go౦ԁ sHit👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌 newmapping™ right👌👌there👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (exciting news: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌GoodMapping™
Sylvette

LyWang wrote:

'exciting news'

You gonna be kidding me right?

If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
lmao
Arphimigon
i pay 420 oss coins to revert change
Zerss
500 posts!
We did it!
Sylvette

Zerss wrote:

500 posts!
We did it!
Adding 1 more cuzynot
Bakuenjin
Welp. Looks like I can stop trying to finally rank a map.
Timorisu

LyWang wrote:

'exciting news'

You gonna be kidding me right?

If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
m1ts

-wwwww wrote:

-_-
Xilver15
Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
worst fl player

JamesHappy wrote:

👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good newmapping™ go౦ԁ sHit👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌 newmapping™ right👌👌there👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (exciting news: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌GoodMapping™
4Head
DeletedUser_3886246

Zerss wrote:

500 posts!
We did it!
Finally!
Zerss
rip 95% of the beatmapping community?
Nara


Nice!!
Timorisu

Xilver wrote:

Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
p/4892856
RLC

Xilver wrote:

Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.

Xilver wrote:

what people leave
mappers. goodbye
Histoire

Xilver wrote:

Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
I don't even
jonathanlfj
Approval rule: Can agree with this, but it shouldn't be retroactively applied to already submitted maps

Ranking rule: Remember the days when we can't have more than 8 difficulties in a mapset? Now we can't have more than 6. This just seems a huge step backwards to me and pleases no one.

Just my 2c
Anxient
XVoIR
Yuii-

Wafu wrote:

I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/383715
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/361576
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/325107
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/341991

Oh, the irony :^)
Zerss


how to have a lot of memes and shitposts
Shirona

Nara wrote:



Nice!!
I AGREE
Cryptic
Maybe this is an elaborate ruse by ztrot to see how active the mapping community is and to see if they actually care?
plzholdmethisisbs
Nozhomi

Xilver wrote:

Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
Just read the 8 first page and BD post I think it should be enough to understand what's wrong with this rule.
Cheesecake

Xilver wrote:

Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
Why is someone with 13 kd on the council
Asda Meal Deal
Im sorry wut?


No this is dumb
autofanboy

Nara wrote:



Nice!!
can't agree more tbh
uee

Xilver wrote:

Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
Why do you need to wait a few days in order to see what happens? Can you not clearly see that this rule is not appreciated by the community, or would you like it to be clearer somehow?

Also, the council idea is stupid. What a great way to run a community driven game.
Dea ex machina

mathew wrote:

-_-
BeatofIke

jonathanlfj wrote:

Approval rule: Can agree with this, but it shouldn't be retroactively applied to already submitted maps

Ranking rule: Remember the days when we can't have more than 8 difficulties in a mapset? Now we can't have more than 6. This just seems a huge step backwards to me and pleases no one.

Just my 2c
Ikr? I thought the same thing as well lmao
Kitami Erika

Nozhomi wrote:

Xilver wrote:

Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
Just read the 8 first page and BD post I think it should be enough to understand what's wrong with this rule.
a mention
BD post is on page27
Mazziv
delet second rules please,never saw an shittier rule than this
Chaoslitz
While we have to wait for the final decision for few days
how should bns continue their work
qualifing maps which meet this new rc or else a disqualofication will come up?
Depths
IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE?
Kencho

Nara wrote:



Nice!!
SnowNiNo_
i tried almost a year to rank my map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/307034
and this just screw it all up QWQ
JamesHappy
so Centipede can be rankable if add another lower diff? lmfao
Lust

xlni wrote:

Xilver wrote:

Hello!

As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.

Xilver wrote:

what people leave
mappers. goodbye
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