pls no
forum
Mapset and Spread Restructure (Proposed)
posted
Total Posts
614
THIS ISRizqy wrote:
is this milk rankable!!!!!!??????1????1?111122312?!???
Infeh
ThisNinjaSM wrote:
I actually think this is a good idea
I will quote some things and comment on them
"First of all, we reworded the current spread rule. All difficulties in each game mode have to align in a linear and progressive spread."
Yes, Finally, some sense of progression.
" You can add one Ultra difficulty past an Expert difficulty that does not have to increase linearly in difficulty with the rest of the spread."
Well, that kind of destroys your first point. But, Let's look at AiAe, The difference between Waffles SHD and SC is insane it's not even funny. But, both are good maps, maybe, with this rule, we should have "If it's playable, then we can rank it"
"Secondly, we limited the amount of difficulties of the same level per game mode. Every mapset is limited to one of each difficulty level per game mode.""
Well F*** you this limits us
"While this appears very limiting at the beginning, the hybrid set rules stay intact."
What about mani-
"Don't forget that every keycount in osu!mania is considered as individual game mode, too!"
Oh, okay.
"At last, we altered the requirements for Approval beatmaps. Approval mapsets must have 1 difficulty that is either an Easy, Normal, Hard or Insane."
... This can't be good
"Your mapset must contain an Insane difficulty if an Expert or Ultra difficulty is present."
There goes the one difficulty rule for Marathons. Nice job
"This means that every Approval containing only an Expert or Ultra difficulty must receive a second difficulty. If you do not wish to map more than one difficulty for your Approval sets, we would advise you to keep the single difficulty at Insane level or below."
Ignore my last comment
"The difficulty is not dependent on the star rating. The mapping techniques used within the difficulty and the spread to the surrounding difficulties define the category each difficulty level falls into. Difficulties must be named to reflect that."
Yura Yura Sweet Genocide will now never be ranked. And any uprising Image Material not even near FC'able maps will be f***'ed with a *****
I can agree with rule 1, I'm okay with rule 1. But Rule 2 is not okay. and Rule 3 is even worse! And limits the possibility of a rank even happening. You want the limit of ranked maps to be higher, to make osu more progressive. Then remove rule 2 and 3
WITH HIGH CALSIUM KALSIUM CALSIUM[ A v a l o n ] wrote:
THIS ISRizqy wrote:
is this milk rankable!!!!!!??????1????1?111122312?!???SPARTAULTRAAAAAAAA !!!
Every mapset is limited to one of each difficulty level per game mode.
Alright...
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?????????????????????
I've made a map with 4 easy/insane difficulties and 3 normal/hard/expert difficulties. NOW IT'S UNRANKABLE, AND I HAVE TO DELETE ALL MY WORK?
This is complete bullshit.
If I'm not allowed to make more than one difficulty level per gamemode, then I officially quit osu! mapping.
Fuck this game.
Alright...
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?????????????????????
I've made a map with 4 easy/insane difficulties and 3 normal/hard/expert difficulties. NOW IT'S UNRANKABLE, AND I HAVE TO DELETE ALL MY WORK?
This is complete bullshit.
If I'm not allowed to make more than one difficulty level per gamemode, then I officially quit osu! mapping.
Fuck this game.
worst fl player
APRIL FOOLS
KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA
KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA
KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA
KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA
KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA
KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA KAPPA
I'm just another player that'll probably have no impact in whether this goes through or not, but this is not the future of osu!
So in the past I've nearly always gotten complaints about my spread not being even enough. Now that I am actually working towards making the difficulty progression as nice and linear as possible, and create an ELEVEN diff spread with EENNHHIIXXX difficulties, you're telling me that the most logical and probably best approach to even difficulty spreads is not allowed anymore? Are you seriously telling me that in order to make this set rankable I have to delete more than HALF OF THE GOD DAMN SET???
This rule is about the worst thing that's happened to the ranking system in a long shot, if it isn't totally the worst thing I've come across yet.
The marathon rule is seriously stupid too. Some songs are just made to have extremely hard difficulties. Mapping anything under a certain treshhold wouldn't do the song justice and quite frankly even worsen the set.
Seriously the WORST decision this game has ever had yet. And I mean it.
This rule is about the worst thing that's happened to the ranking system in a long shot, if it isn't totally the worst thing I've come across yet.
The marathon rule is seriously stupid too. Some songs are just made to have extremely hard difficulties. Mapping anything under a certain treshhold wouldn't do the song justice and quite frankly even worsen the set.
Seriously the WORST decision this game has ever had yet. And I mean it.
Well everyone, ITS TIME TO GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS
WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF PITCHFORKS AVAILABLE TODAY
---E
---F
---€
------<
▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一E
︻̷̿┻̿═━═━E
▄︻̷̿┻̿═━━━╥━══E
AND FINALLY, OUR BEST SELLER
-----卐
WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF PITCHFORKS AVAILABLE TODAY
---E
---F
---€
------<
▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一E
︻̷̿┻̿═━═━E
▄︻̷̿┻̿═━━━╥━══E
AND FINALLY, OUR BEST SELLER
-----卐
Squigly wrote:
How about, we don't do this.
Everyone being so negative??? :^((
Someone should really thank our Osu!academy professor for knowing exactly what the problems are in the mapping community.
Thanks ztrot !!!
DD
Someone should really thank our Osu!academy professor for knowing exactly what the problems are in the mapping community.
Thanks ztrot !!!
DDPlease argue in an objektive manner and stop posting those passive-aggressive memes.
This is addressed to all reposters who keep shitposting.
This is addressed to all reposters who keep shitposting.
Can we insert some osu meme here
actually rank maps are slowly decreasing
and this rule will cause no rank map xd
and this rule will cause no rank map xd
I completely agree with these changes!
As a newbie player, I really hate these really good, fun-to-play, creative maps, so I really need a lower difficulty to play
On top of that, I play on a really low resolution, so when mappers map a lot of diffs, they make me scroll a lot on my beatmaps and that annoys the fuck out of me :c
Good job, osu! staff, I think the community will love this in time!!!!!!!!!!!!DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
As a newbie player, I really hate these really good, fun-to-play, creative maps, so I really need a lower difficulty to play
On top of that, I play on a really low resolution, so when mappers map a lot of diffs, they make me scroll a lot on my beatmaps and that annoys the fuck out of me :c
Good job, osu! staff, I think the community will love this in time!!!!!!!!!!!!
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdear osu!academy principal,
dont fix things that arent broken
dont fix things that arent broken
End me
in first place this is a community game, WE DONT NEED A COUNCIL, we need open discussions about new rules, I hope this big disagreement, between your council and the community make you step back guys. This rule do more bad than good, listen to the comunity thanks.
To be honest I feel like if I gave any insightful feedback or a good argument, it would just go ignored anyways.CrimsonClaw wrote:
Please argue in an objektive manner and stop posting those passive-aggressive memes.
This is addressed to all reposters who keep shitposting.
This was a rule that was made out of the blue and it doesnt seem like anybody at all knew about it before hand considering the amount of QAT's and BN's getting upset over it.
The least he could have done was give a warning or make a discussion post on it whether to make it official or not
What about the TorchesStrykerto wrote:
Well everyone, ITS TIME TO GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS
WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF PITCHFORKS AVAILABLE TODAY
---E
---F
---€
------<
▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一E
︻̷̿┻̿═━═━E
▄︻̷̿┻̿═━━━╥━══E
AND FINALLY, OUR BEST SELLER
-----卐
All this does is limit the use of different mapping styles even further.
People have been complaining about "pp mapping" and that most of the newer maps are mapped with the same style which uses a lot of repeated back-and-forth jumps and a high OD. It's kind of relevant, because if you look at the insane difficulties in recently ranked songs, you will see that most of them fall into this mapping style.
Then there are maps that have several insanes. Often these GD insanes are mapped in a different style, which gives people of different skill levels the opportunity to enjoy the map. With the new rule, the mapper is essentially forced to delete the GD insanes and rank the map with his "pp mapping" style insane, because that is the difficulty that will get played the most. This leads to most maps having the same style insane.
TLDR: Enjoy playing the same map 100 times with a different song in the background.
People have been complaining about "pp mapping" and that most of the newer maps are mapped with the same style which uses a lot of repeated back-and-forth jumps and a high OD. It's kind of relevant, because if you look at the insane difficulties in recently ranked songs, you will see that most of them fall into this mapping style.
Then there are maps that have several insanes. Often these GD insanes are mapped in a different style, which gives people of different skill levels the opportunity to enjoy the map. With the new rule, the mapper is essentially forced to delete the GD insanes and rank the map with his "pp mapping" style insane, because that is the difficulty that will get played the most. This leads to most maps having the same style insane.
TLDR: Enjoy playing the same map 100 times with a different song in the background.
wow i left a post here!
Peppy, FYI, it's valentines day in Japan, not april fools day.
Decided to make a straw poll. The results show that this certainly was the best decision regarding osu ever made. http://strawpoll.me/6805999
Decided to make a straw poll. The results show that this certainly was the best decision regarding osu ever made. http://strawpoll.me/6805999
Natsu wrote:
in first place this is a community game, WE DONT NEED A COUNCIL, we need open discussions about new rules, I hope this big disagreement, between your council and the community make you step back guys. This rule do more bad than good, listen to the comunity thanks.
Anxient wrote:
dear osu!academy principal,
dont fix things that arent broken
Not enoughTheBestName wrote:
What about the TorchesStrykerto wrote:
Well everyone, ITS TIME TO GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS
WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF PITCHFORKS AVAILABLE TODAY
---E
---F
---€
------<
▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一E
︻̷̿┻̿═━═━E
▄︻̷̿┻̿═━━━╥━══E
AND FINALLY, OUR BEST SELLER
-----卐
HOLy
*gives medal*Natsu wrote:
in first place this is a community game, WE DONT NEED A COUNCIL, we need open discussions about new rules, I hope this big disagreement, between your council and the community make you step back guys. This rule do more bad than good, listen to the comunity thanks.
NO MORE MEMES GUYS GIVE IT UP
sameAce3DF wrote:
my nips are semi hard from all of this
everyone ·︻̷̿┻̿═━一 new criteria
no fucking way this is true.. holy fuck how can anyone think this is a good ideaAzer wrote:
Yauxo wrote:
Did anyone actually notice this?
This literally takes all the "community" out of the "community game". Why would you even want to do that.
What the actual fuck
I can make a petiton about the fact that we should make a petition!G3m4sSt4ffLP wrote:
Let's make a petetionHullahopp wrote:
I demand democracy
Exactly, thanks.Natsu wrote:
in first place this is a community game, WE DONT NEED A COUNCIL, we need open discussions about new rules, I hope this big disagreement, between your council and the community make you step back guys. This rule do more bad than good, listen to the comunity thanks.
Just leaving it here as well to sum up my reaction in a nutshell.
Does staffs drank this before posting this thread
Insulting/threatening whoever came up with this is wrong, and the the memes (although dank) are useless, but this shouldn't need any discussion. It's a bad idea. There are no positives to it. In fact, it is the worst and most horrifying thing that might become reality since I realized Donald Trump has a legitimate shot at being president.
This could be a big test to see if they actually care about the opinion of their community or not
1 Map per Icon makes absolutely no sense, and the Insane diff in addition to an Extra or Ultra diffs should not count for Marathon Maps.
1 Map per Icon makes absolutely no sense, and the Insane diff in addition to an Extra or Ultra diffs should not count for Marathon Maps.
When you can't open the website without it crashing in a few seconds, you know that shit is going down.
But really now, this has to be a joke
omar it's not funny cut it out
omar it's not funny cut it out
Terrible?? No!Xantaria wrote:
terrible change
That's too nice of a word.
I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
Why exactly do we need more [Easy] and [Normal] diffs? A good difficulty spread is very important, which is why we need more Extras, not the other way around.
Why is there a council in the first place, that wasn't voted on DIRECTLY BY THE COMMUNITY in a COMMUNITY GAME
i cant even tell if this is sarcasm anymore but ill assume that it is for the sake of my sanityWafu wrote:
I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
sameAnxient wrote:
i cant even tell if this is sarcasm anymore but ill assume that it is for the sake of my sanityWafu wrote:
I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
I don't know what you are talking about my friend.KuranteMelodii wrote:
Does staffs drank this before posting this thread
It has been decided by 2 or 3 people, whole mapping staff is against it.
no it isn'tAnxient wrote:
i cant even tell if this is sarcasm anymore but ill assume that it is for the sake of my sanityWafu wrote:
I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
Although I am not std player
but I don't agree with the structure
but I don't agree with the structure
'exciting news'
You gonna be kidding me right?
If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
You gonna be kidding me right?
If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
This would mean a lot less well made ranked insane/extra diffs. Some more hard/easy diffs. Cleaner look when looking at ranked beatmaps, probably more comparable to commercial rhytm games.
I think it'd be better to add some category that's easier to rank for this kind of spreads (one diff per category), but let people do it how it's been done.
Mappers are not working for you, they do it because they want to. This would probably make them less likely to rank a map.
Please use carrot, not stick.
Also, why is this not news on the front page?
I think it'd be better to add some category that's easier to rank for this kind of spreads (one diff per category), but let people do it how it's been done.
Mappers are not working for you, they do it because they want to. This would probably make them less likely to rank a map.
Please use carrot, not stick.
Also, why is this not news on the front page?
I simply cannot agree with these changes.
It's too much limitation and it's going to result in less mappers and no creativity.
It's too much limitation and it's going to result in less mappers and no creativity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AristocracyAscendance wrote:
Why is there a council in the first place, that wasn't voted on DIRECTLY BY THE COMMUNITY in a COMMUNITY GAME
But anyway. This discussion can rest now. The backlash was big enough, and i am sure the staff does not want to risk huge amounts of drops in the number of active players. Its okay, guys.
lmfao yes xdLyWang wrote:
'exciting news'
You gonna be kidding me right?
If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
.
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good newmapping™ go౦ԁ sHit👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌 newmapping™ right👌👌there👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (exciting news: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌GoodMapping™
lmaoLyWang wrote:
'exciting news'
You gonna be kidding me right?
If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
i pay 420 oss coins to revert change
Welp. Looks like I can stop trying to finally rank a map.
LyWang wrote:
'exciting news'
You gonna be kidding me right?
If I claim a person's death would be exciting, what would be his response?
Hello!
As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
worst fl player
4HeadJamesHappy wrote:
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good newmapping™ go౦ԁ sHit👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌 newmapping™ right👌👌there👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (exciting news: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌GoodMapping™
p/4892856Xilver wrote:
Hello!
As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
Xilver wrote:
Hello!
As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
mappers. goodbyeXilver wrote:
what people leave
I don't evenXilver wrote:
Hello!
As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.
Approval rule: Can agree with this, but it shouldn't be retroactively applied to already submitted maps
Ranking rule: Remember the days when we can't have more than 8 difficulties in a mapset? Now we can't have more than 6. This just seems a huge step backwards to me and pleases no one.
Just my 2c
Ranking rule: Remember the days when we can't have more than 8 difficulties in a mapset? Now we can't have more than 6. This just seems a huge step backwards to me and pleases no one.
Just my 2c
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/383715Wafu wrote:
I think it's a cool change honestly. We're forcing people to do the spread properly, which is absolutely alright in my opinion. We don't need the "fill-in" difficulties. There are usually there when mapper fails to make the spread consistent. On the other hand, I think this will prevent some people from mapping easy difficulties. Like really easy. Meaning, if there is some very fast song, people tend to make somewhat normal-ish easy, so lower difficulty would be sometimes appropriate.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/361576
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/325107
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/341991
Oh, the irony :^)
Maybe this is an elaborate ruse by ztrot to see how active the mapping community is and to see if they actually care?
plzholdmethisisbs
plzholdmethisisbs
Just read the 8 first page and BD post I think it should be enough to understand what's wrong with this rule.Xilver wrote:
Hello!
As part of the Criteria Council we are currently gathering feedback from what people leave, and we will sort it out in the next couple of days. In the meantime, we are going to observe how the current changes work and how they turn out to be. Please leave your constructive feedback in order for it to be considered by us, and make sure to stand out and give your valid reasons as to what you agree or disagree on.