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Phoebe Ryan - Mine (Nightcore Mix)

posted 2015-11-04T02:56:31+00:00

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Easy

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Easy 2015-11-04T02:56:31+00:00

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JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2015-11-04T16:42:23+00:00

Fixed the hitsounds on my diff and tweaked a few patterns
No kudosu (:

To-do:

My soft-hitclap replacement - I've fixed up the new green lines, just drop this into the song folder
Compressed BG - saves 1.5MB of file space
Offset 2120ms
Preview points are inconsistent at the moment - find me in game to chat about this
Add me to tags \:D/

diff

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Phoebe Ryan - Mine (Illenium Remix) Nightcore.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 85949
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Mine (Nightcore Mix)
TitleUnicode:Mine (Nightcore Mix)
Artist:Phoebe Ryan
ArtistUnicode:Phoebe Ryan
Creator:Lolipop
Version:Hyperion's Normal
Source:
Tags:Electronic Melodic Dubstep
BeatmapID:817993
BeatmapSetID:373377

[Difficulty]
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Aruel

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Joined February 2014

Aruel 2015-11-25T08:47:34+00:00

General checking.

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2015-11-25 17:36 Lolipop: Do you mod standard maps? Even if u don't, can you check the timing of this map. My friend says it's 2120, while I got 50.
2015-11-25 17:36 Lolipop: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/817993 Phoebe Ryan - Mine (Nightcore Mix)]
2015-11-25 17:36 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: hmm... I can't mod standard maps but I can check some general and timing/.
2015-11-25 17:37 Lolipop: We're disagreeing on the offset
2015-11-25 17:37 Lolipop: not the bpm
2015-11-25 17:37 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: Which offset you think the right BPM?
2015-11-25 17:38 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: I'm downloading
2015-11-25 17:38 Lolipop: 50 is what I've been using. I used a bpm analyzer, I got the bpm I currently have now plus the offset of 50. My friend retimed it, and he said it's 2120, but I'm not sure
2015-11-25 17:38 Which offset you think the right *offset
2015-11-25 17:38 Lolipop: 50
2015-11-25 17:38 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: hmm
2015-11-25 17:39 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 2120 is right offset
2015-11-25 17:40 Lolipop: ok
2015-11-25 17:40 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: Don't forget to re-snap the notes!
2015-11-25 17:40 Lolipop: I will :)
2015-11-25 17:40 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: Also turn off the widescreen support on Advanced and Easy diffs
2015-11-25 17:41 Lolipop: ok
2015-11-25 17:41 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: Also your Normal diff has only different timing point. please fix it
2015-11-25 17:41 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: And preview time too.
2015-11-25 17:41 Lolipop: I will lol
2015-11-25 17:42 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: also unsnapped timing points.
2015-11-25 17:42 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: In easy
2015-11-25 17:42 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: hmm
2015-11-25 17:42 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: Seems Easy and Hyper has a lot of unsnapped timing points.
2015-11-25 17:42 Lolipop: because u changed the bpm..?
2015-11-25 17:42 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:09:191 - snap to 00:09:193
2015-11-25 17:43 Lolipop: I'll make sure everything's snapped
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:09:834 - snap to 00:09:837
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:10:349 - snap to 00:10:352
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:11:894 - snap to 00:11:898
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:12:410 - snap to 00:12:413
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:17:431 - snap to 00:17:436
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:17:817 - snap to 00:17:822
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:18:075 - snap to 00:18:079
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:18:590 - snap to 00:18:595
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: 00:26:830 - snap to 00:26:837
2015-11-25 17:43 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: After you changed offset. Please re-snap all of timing points.
2015-11-25 17:44 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: And please add the tag who gave to you an guest diff. (Hyperion)
2015-11-25 17:44 Lolipop: I know. I'm resnapping everything in the advanced map rn :)
2015-11-25 17:44 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: Not only Advanced. Easy too :p
2015-11-25 17:45 Lolipop: I made Advanced and Easy
2015-11-25 17:45 Lolipop: He made normal
2015-11-25 17:45 Lolipop: and I think I put the tag on the normal difficulty
2015-11-25 17:45 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: Yeah seems his nickname is JBHyperion.
2015-11-25 17:45 Lolipop: yea
2015-11-25 17:45 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: Tags are should be same in all diffs.
2015-11-25 17:45 Lolipop: oh, ok
2015-11-25 17:46 _FrEsH_ChICkEn_: I hope it could help to you :)

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Exa 2015-11-25T22:38:44+00:00

IRC prior to the posting of this mapset

2015-11-02 12:41 Lolipop: Mind taking a look at my map? Haven't uploaded it yet, and I'm waiting for another friends map, so this is all I have atm
2015-11-02 12:41 Lolipop: http://puu.sh/l6Bdu/209200079d.osz
2015-11-02 12:41 Lolipop: The one I said was unrankable is probably rankable lol
2015-11-02 12:41 Exa: let me see
2015-11-02 12:43 Lolipop: JBHyperion showed me some things, and said it's a good map overall. I just changed some patterns, and some of my friends thought it was good as well. If you have any suggestions, or things I could change easily to make the map better, please tell me
2015-11-02 12:43 Exa: gotta download first
2015-11-02 12:43 Exa: my net is the worst so
2015-11-02 12:43 Lolipop: ok
2015-11-02 12:43 Lolipop: D:
2015-11-02 12:43 Lolipop: how fast?
2015-11-02 12:45 Exa: not much
2015-11-02 12:45 Exa: sec, I am also getting an error
2015-11-02 12:45 Exa: wtf
2015-11-02 12:45 Lolipop: what? o . o
2015-11-02 12:45 Exa: nvm
2015-11-02 12:47 Exa: 01:10:624 (1,2,3) - Equalize spacing here since it can be confusing
2015-11-02 12:48 Exa: You've spaced a 1/1 rhythm the same as a 1/2 so people might mistake it
2015-11-02 12:48 Lolipop: ah, ok
2015-11-02 12:48 Lolipop: I fixed it
2015-11-02 12:49 Exa: 01:30:070 (2,3,1) - Do something like [http://puu.sh/l6BAC/d578760e95.jpg this], since you take huge advantage of the slider leniency the way you have it
2015-11-02 12:51 Exa: 01:33:805 (1,2,3) - Here, better go with something like [http://puu.sh/l6BEo/1efb92c336.jpg this] since you don't introcude many 1/4 rhythms with a note and people might also get confused
2015-11-02 12:52 Exa: 01:36:252 (2) - Copy this slider, do Ctrl+G remove 01:36:510 (3) - this, paste the slider where the previous one's head was and add a reverse point
2015-11-02 12:52 Exa: it seems much more tidy to me this way and you also avoid that weird change of angle
2015-11-02 12:53 Exa: It's weird because it's a big change, unlike the rest of your patterns
2015-11-02 12:53 Lolipop: 01:34:449 (3) - If I put the slider up, wouldn't it interfere with the hp gauge?
2015-11-02 12:53 Exa: let me see
2015-11-02 12:53 Exa: nope
2015-11-02 12:53 Exa: testplay it and see for yourselfd
2015-11-02 12:53 Lolipop: ok
2015-11-02 12:53 Exa: wait
2015-11-02 12:54 Exa: yup, just by a little, it doesn't
2015-11-02 12:54 Exa: 01:35:479 (3,3) - Please use the same slider for these 2
2015-11-02 12:55 Exa: 01:46:426 (3,4) - 1.7 DS 01:48:487 (1,2) - 1.1 DS
2015-11-02 12:55 Exa: That's a huge difference for the same sound
2015-11-02 12:55 Exa: 02:17:077 (1,1,1) - Egh
2015-11-02 12:56 Exa: No need for that
2015-11-02 12:56 Exa: 02:17:335 (1,1) - remove nc
2015-11-02 12:57 Exa: you giv03:16:962 (2,3,2) - They are exactly the same but you use different hitobjects
2015-11-02 12:57 Exa: That would not be a problem if it was not much easier to play a slider than 2 notes
2015-11-02 12:57 Exa: But it is harder so
2015-11-02 12:58 Exa: 03:24:045 (1,2,3) - .
2015-11-02 12:58 Exa: 03:26:106 (4,1,2) -
2015-11-02 12:58 Exa: Make them same DS
2015-11-02 12:58 Exa: Actually nvm for the last one
2015-11-02 12:59 Lolipop: `01:36:510 (3) - Why do I need to remove this again? Are you asking me to make it go in the opposite direction?
2015-11-02 12:59 Exa: I am asking you to replace it with another slider
2015-11-02 13:00 Exa: That's why you have to copy the pervious slider
2015-11-02 13:00 Exa: so they are the same
2015-11-02 13:00 Exa: you can Ctrl+H the previous slider if you don't want them to be the same direction
2015-11-02 13:00 Lolipop: So just a 2 chain of those small sliders?
2015-11-02 13:00 Lolipop: That 3 slider can't be there?
2015-11-02 13:00 Exa: http://puu.sh/l6C2z/25e06d86e5.jpg
2015-11-02 13:00 Exa: like this
2015-11-02 13:01 Lolipop: ok
2015-11-02 13:01 Exa: I copied 3, pasted, ctrl+h and moved it where the other slider is and deleted the old one
2015-11-02 13:01 Exa: 02:06:774 (4,1) - Also get that 1 closer to the slider
2015-11-02 13:02 Exa: it might be confusing for the same reason I explained before on a same instance
2015-11-02 13:02 Lolipop: ok
2015-11-02 13:02 Lolipop: 01:35:479 (3,3) - Here, I should change the angle of one of them, or are you asking for a different slider entirely? xD
2015-11-02 13:03 Exa: Nope
2015-11-02 13:03 Exa: wait
2015-11-02 13:03 Lolipop: wait.. oh
2015-11-02 13:03 Lolipop: nvm
2015-11-02 13:03 Lolipop: I'm tired..
2015-11-02 13:03 Exa: XD
2015-11-02 13:03 Exa: their angle is fine
2015-11-02 13:04 Exa: 01:35:479 (3,3,1) - These also make a nice triangle if you look at it
2015-11-02 13:04 Exa: So you don't need to change a thing from these 2
2015-11-02 13:04 Exa: Aside from what I told you
2015-11-02 13:04 Exa: I have nothing else to say other than good job on this one
2015-11-02 13:04 Exa: I remember when you showed me your maps for the first time
2015-11-02 13:04 Exa: Big improvement
2015-11-02 13:04 Exa: Well done
2015-11-02 13:05 Exa: Submit it and ask for mods
2015-11-02 13:05 Exa: I basicaly modded it now
2015-11-02 13:05 Exa: Well
2015-11-02 13:05 Lolipop: I will once JB's done with his map
2015-11-02 13:05 Exa: If were to mod, that's what I would say
2015-11-02 13:05 Lolipop: thx for the help
2015-11-02 13:05 Exa: aight
2015-11-02 13:05 Exa: np
2015-11-02 13:05 Lolipop: I'll keep asking questions in the mean time if I don't understand any of the tips u gave me
2015-11-02 13:05 Exa: ofc
2015-11-02 13:09 Lolipop: 02:16:819 (4) - Here would it be ok to start a new combo, or should I keep that there so the player can easily catch on to the stream of circles?
2015-11-02 13:10 Lolipop: I'm removing all the 1s
2015-11-02 13:10 Exa: do a /np
2015-11-02 13:10 Exa: nvm
2015-11-02 13:10 Exa: yeah, start a combo there
2015-11-02 22:12 Lolipop: I'm back. Sorry I got off so suddenly 9 or so hours ago. I was up late, and to my surprise... the sun was coming up... and I was going "OH SHIT...."
2015-11-02 22:13 Lolipop: xD
2015-11-02 22:13 Lolipop: I saved the logs of your modding though
2015-11-02 22:13 Exa: Oh lol
2015-11-02 22:13 Exa: aight
2015-11-02 22:19 Lolipop: 03:24:045 (1,2,3) - Aren't they already close enough to being the same ds?
2015-11-02 22:19 Lolipop: I didn't make any huge spacing changes?
2015-11-02 22:20 Exa: No I mean
2015-11-02 22:20 Exa: 03:24:045 (1,2,3) - These are ok
2015-11-02 22:20 Exa: 03:26:106 (4,1,2) - These are the same with the others (which are ok) and should be treated with the same spacing
2015-11-02 22:27 Lolipop: I fixed everything. Thanks again

2015-11-02 22:28 Exa: o/

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2015-11-28T05:07:25+00:00

hi, m4m we talked about in game

[general]
Dont have hitsounds on the entire slider body. Just have them on the tail and the head

00:51:544 (3) - Add a clap or a finish on this note. I whistle isnt enough imo
01:08:028 (1) - there are others across the map but I'll just name it here once. Im pretty sure you need at least 2 measures between a spinner and a note on an easy diff. This would be too close https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Easy

Maybe changed it to this?

01:13:180 (2) - blanket is a tiny bit off
02:18:087 (3) - add whistle or finish
02:54:147 (2) - delete NC
02:59:299 (2) - have the head of this slider lead from slider (1). would look alot prettier

like this

For the chorus and the outro have claps on the ends of all the sliders

[Normal]
01:24:512 - decrease audio to 5%
02:52:086 (3) - curve it a bit outwards

[Advanced]
00:13:938 (1,2) - Stack or Increase DS
00:17:802 (2,3,4,5) - It would play better if you spaced these out a bit imo
01:19:104 (4) - NC since you but a NC here 01:17:042 (1)
02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) - these sliders dont match the slow tempo in this part of the song imo. Change it to something else?
03:27:502 (5) - move to 03:27:373 and add 3 more reverses

Well tahts all from me, I hope this mode was useful, GL!

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Nekomata 2015-11-28T05:14:29+00:00

unrankable spread
advanced usually refers to a difficulty in between normal and hard, and this actually feels like a hard+ imo
1.8* to 3.2* from normal to "advanced" is way too large, also considering the 1/4 slider jumps and usage of 4-streams and low-spaced objects
you should probably try to nerf the diff to around 2.7* and rename it to hard and make/get another diff

all suggestions listed apply to anything that is similar to the noted objects

general
illenium in tags

advanced
i will probably mod this with a Hard difficulty in mind

00:57:081 (2,3,4,5) - it does follow vocals, but some players aren't used to tapping 4x 1/4. using two 1/4 sliders is probably best
01:06:354 (1,2,3) - to me, this is random to follow. rhythm suggestion
01:10:089 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - this spacing can be really confusing, it's pretty much a forced read
01:19:618 - i would actually expect a note here tbh because it seems you were following that 1/2 beat before and it doesn't stop until around the kiai start
01:38:937 (1,2) - spacing, and sudden change in rhythm that doesn't reflect the music as much as the rhythm before. compared to how your rhythm was before, (2) will most likely be hit early and throw people off because your spacing usage will actually make people think this is the same rhythm
01:40:997 (1,2) - spacing, also that good rhythm comes back again here so ya kinda confusing
02:09:330 (3,4,1) - why this inconsistent spacing
01:59:542 (1,2,3,4) - if you want to use things like this, you better not make it look like a triple (01:17:558 (1,2,3) - ) aka increase distance (sidenote: these shouldn't really be used in Hard diffs)
03:28:146 (1) - how about shortening this spinner to 03:30:206 just like jb

make your spacing consistent (and maybe even constant) and you should be able to get that star difficulty down.

jb
hello friend :3

AR 6? imo max i would put on a Normal is AR 5.
00:11:620 (2,3) - i don't mind these kind of stacks as much as 00:14:453 (1,2) - but yeah do something for more readability lol
00:44:331 (2,3) - better off doing 1/2s, these 1/3s don't hit anything
01:32:754 (1,2) - probably not a very big problem since these are easy to read sliders, but i think 1/1 then 1/2 circle rhythm is better here for Normal. but at least you're pretty consistent with this
02:14:996 (2,1) - looks kinda weird don't you think
02:48:222 (3,4) - dat spacing - also, check aimod for more distance things and try to eliminate them if possible

easy

maybe reduce ar -> 3
00:32:999 (1,1) - this recovery time is unrankable. suggestion
01:05:967 (1,1) - also unrankable
02:24:269 (1,1) - u n r a n k
03:09:601 (1,1) - a b l e
03:28:146 (1) - 03:30:206

well no major problem with the rhythm here lol
probably just needs improvement on flow (it's almost always clockwise ;_;) and some aesthetics

Last edited by Nekomata 2015-11-28T05:20:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2015-11-28T05:20:52+00:00

Nekomata wrote:
02:24:269 (1,1) - u n r a n k
03:09:601 (1,1) - a b l e

lol

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-11-28T13:00:29+00:00

Hi Im Nathan wrote:
[Normal]
01:24:512 - decrease audio to 5% Done
02:52:086 (3) - curve it a bit outwards And done

Well tahts all from me, I hope this mode was useful, GL!

Nekomata wrote:
jb
hello friend :3 Ohai der o/

AR 6? imo max i would put on a Normal is AR 5. Yeah I agree, I used 6 to balance the spread a bit, but if another diff is getting added I can afford to drop this a bit. Changed to 5 for now, will see how the new diff turns out
00:11:620 (2,3) - i don't mind these kind of stacks as much as 00:14:453 (1,2) - but yeah do something for more readability lol I feel like 00:11:620 (2,3) are fine to read with the low note density here, but I did unstack 00:14:453 (1,2)
00:44:331 (2,3) - better off doing 1/2s, these 1/3s don't hit anything I just noticed the vocals here are delayed from the white tick a bit, which is why this sounds off. No way I'm gonna fudge 1/6 or 1/8 or whatever the hell this is in a Normal, so yeah, 1/2 is the way to go - also changed at 02:10:875 (2,3)
01:32:754 (1,2) - probably not a very big problem since these are easy to read sliders, but i think 1/1 then 1/2 circle rhythm is better here for Normal. but at least you're pretty consistent with this I wanted to pitch for some pattern variety in the kiai, but as you say, it needed to be really easy to read. I feel this is just about ok for a Normal and I think the consistency does help, but if more people suggest the same then I could live without this
02:14:996 (2,1) - looks kinda weird don't you think I was going for angle on (2) to emphasise the vocal pitch change, which isn't present on (1). Decided to keep the arrangement, but unblanketed so it doesn't look quite so odd
02:48:222 (3,4) - dat spacing - also, check aimod for more distance things and try to eliminate them if possible Yikes good spot. Will try and stamp out any more of these whilst I'm at it, e.g. 01:46:406 (3,1) - wtfevenwasthis2.2xDS. I've kept the 1.0x DS jumps with large beat spacing e.g. 00:23:210 (2,3) as I feel these are both easy enough to read, and look nicer than they would with 1.3x DS which makes everything at that spacing require a full cross-screen transition lol

Thanks for the mods guys!

Normal

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264,280,157662,2,0,P|296:264|316:236,1,65,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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372,316,161526,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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304,192,162556,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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289,281,165646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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383,42,169768,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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108,88,170798,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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301,119,174662,1,8,0:0:0:0:
257,191,174919,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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408,192,178783,1,8,0:0:0:0:
364,264,179040,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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124,200,182389,2,0,P|151:217|183:220,1,65,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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384,20,184449,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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492,316,186253,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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44,84,189601,5,4,0:0:0:0:
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288,76,198358,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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Kyozoru

334 posts

Joined August 2015

Kyozoru 2015-11-29T08:10:02+00:00

MAKE THE BPM 116.00, so it fixes

Also Fix the timing points

Chibi Maruko

857 posts

Joined January 2015

Chibi Maruko 2015-11-29T10:01:14+00:00

Hai! From Modding Queue

3 mins are to hard for me. So, I can mod 1 diff only

Light Insane

00:04:150 (6) - NC
00:14:453 (3) - ^
00:51:544 (1) - Add Finish
00:55:664 (4) - ^
00:59:785 (5) - NC
01:23:997 (1,2,3,4,5) - The style stream/singletap doesn't look nice. How about this
01:45:118 (4) - NC
02:00:572 - Add note
02:52:344 - ^

ouranhshc

2,338 posts

Joined July 2009

ouranhshc 2015-12-11T12:41:03+00:00

Light Insane
00:09:817 (5,6) - seems odd because you don't use this rhythm in the earlier part of the intro. 00:09:817 (5,1) - The spacing here doesn't really help the issue.
00:10:332 (1,2,3) - how come the spacing change when compared to 00:05:052 (2,3) -
00:13:938 (1,2,3) - spacing. how come (2) is so close to (1)
00:17:802 (2,3,4,5) - odd decrease in spacing, also why is the distance from (1) to (2) so large D:
01:17:043 (1,2) - if you wanted this to have a new combo, then 01:18:073 (4,4) - should also be new combos; however I suggest removing the new combo on 01:17:043 (1) -
00:36:089 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - should probably be 1/3 snapped. Same goes for 00:44:332 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - , 02:02:633 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - , 02:10:875 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - If you make this change, i'd suggest changing the sliders that you use right after those sections so that its not confusing. Also apply the changes to the Hard diff~
01:20:391 (3) - new combo?
01:34:171 (2) - looking at how you mapped the chorus, it would probably be best to make the spacing like you did for the other parts of the chorus. For example, 01:33:141 (2) -
01:43:058 (1,2) -

I think this slider+circle combination might work better for the transition from the larger spaced kiai/chorus to the non-kiai/chorus
01:43:830 (3,4,5) - maybe this rhythm

02:07:269 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
02:17:314 (1) - interesting new combo
03:26:343 (1,2,3,4) - the spacing change here is a little unnecessary

Overall for this diff, the spacing in kiai areas was fine apart from what was mention above. In the non-kiai areas, the spacing to be more consistent. I'm not saying that every circle should have 1.0x Distance snap between it, but how you space your 1/4 sliders and 1/4 circle + slider should be consistent.

Hard
00:04:150 (4) - new combo here and remove the new combo 00:05:695 (1) - and then add a new combo 00:06:211 (2) - ?. Then add a new combo 00:08:271 (3) -
01:03:391 (3,4,1) - Probably could rearrange this so the the start of (1) isn't overlapping (3)

Normal
Looks fine

Easy
The slider shapes could look better. Other than that, its fine

Easy

109 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Easy 2016-02-10T01:08:56+00:00

Kyozoru wrote:
MAKE THE BPM 116.00, so it fixes
Also Fix the timing points

I already tried 116 bpm, but the current bpm for the song was figured out with a bpm analyzer, I double checked it, and it works fine.
In addition, 116 won't work because this song was been nightcored. It makes sense that it's not a whole number bpm.

ouranhshc wrote:
Light Insane
00:09:817 (5,6) - seems odd because you don't use this rhythm in the earlier part of the intro. 00:09:817 (5,1) - The spacing here doesn't really help the issue.
00:10:332 (1,2,3) - how come the spacing change when compared to 00:05:052 (2,3) -
00:13:938 (1,2,3) - spacing. how come (2) is so close to (1)
00:17:802 (2,3,4,5) - odd decrease in spacing, also why is the distance from (1) to (2) so large D:
01:17:043 (1,2) - if you wanted this to have a new combo, then 01:18:073 (4,4) - should also be new combos; however I suggest removing the new combo on 01:17:043 (1) -
00:36:089 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - should probably be 1/3 snapped. Same goes for 00:44:332 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - , 02:02:633 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - , 02:10:875 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - If you make this change, i'd suggest changing the sliders that you use right after those sections so that its not confusing. Also apply the changes to the Hard diff~
01:20:391 (3) - new combo?
01:34:171 (2) - looking at how you mapped the chorus, it would probably be best to make the spacing like you did for the other parts of the chorus. For example, 01:33:141 (2) -
01:43:058 (1,2) - I think this slider+circle combination might work better for the transition from the larger spaced kiai/chorus to the non-kiai/chorus
01:43:830 (3,4,5) - maybe this rhythm
02:07:269 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
02:17:314 (1) - interesting new combo
03:26:343 (1,2,3,4) - the spacing change here is a little unnecessary

Overall for this diff, the spacing in kiai areas was fine apart from what was mention above. In the non-kiai areas, the spacing to be more consistent. I'm not saying that every circle should have 1.0x Distance snap between it, but how you space your 1/4 sliders and 1/4 circle + slider should be consistent.

Hard
00:04:150 (4) - new combo here and remove the new combo 00:05:695 (1) - and then add a new combo 00:06:211 (2) - ?. Then add a new combo 00:08:271 (3) -
01:03:391 (3,4,1) - Probably could rearrange this so the the start of (1) isn't overlapping (3)

Normal
Looks fine

Easy
The slider shapes could look better. Other than that, its fine

Light Insane

1. Did not change. I don't see a problem. You're right. It's the same rhythm, but I won't change it.
2. At 00:10:332 (1) - the rhythm picks up, and it's the reason the spacing change happened. Again, not changing.
3. Do you know what Distance Snap is?!
4. It's not Odd
5. Changed the combos slightly
6. Not changing to 1/3 snapped. It works fine
7. Not adding a new combo. I can see how it might work there, but then you'd only have a 01:19:747 (1,2) -
as a combo, and it'd feel weird.
8. Originally, the chorus was one rhythm, but it needed more variety so I added this rhythm, and I'm making any major changes like what you're asking. I think this map
is fine as it is rhythm wise.
9. Not changing 01:43:830 (3,4,5)
10. 02:07:269 (1,2,3,4,5) - Nothing wrong with this! Spacing doesn't need to be the same as the rest of the map all the time
11. Fixed
12. The spacing change here is just to make the map look better and it works since it's a calm section

Thanks for the mod. I've changed some combos issues, but I strongly disagree that
spacing needs to be more consistent in non kiai areas. It's fine if it changes sometimes other
than flow parts like 00:44:332 (1) - If spacing was the same like what you're proposing, I think
the map would feel boring.

Hard

Fixed all the things u proposed. Thanks

Chibi Maruko wrote:
Hai! From Modding Queue

3 mins are to hard for me. So, I can mod 1 diff only

Light Insane
00:04:150 (6) - NC
00:14:453 (3) - ^
00:51:544 (1) - Add Finish
00:55:664 (4) - ^
00:59:785 (5) - NC
01:23:997 (1,2,3,4,5) - The style stream/singletap doesn't look nice. How about this
01:45:118 (4) - NC
02:00:572 - Add note
02:52:344 - ^

I didn't add a finish at one part, but overall, this helped me a little bit.

Thanks

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2016-02-12T11:53:45+00:00

sry I'm late

[Easy]

It's just some random suggestion but yee try move your break to 00:19:862 - where the vocals will start, you can emphasize le echo of instrument there
00:38:150 (4) - how about adding le curve thingy on the tail? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517289
01:48:209 (4) - use simple slider to make it looks more smooth (and can avoid le out of area) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517304
02:33:541 (4) - decrease curve angle to make it more smooth circular-looking? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517311
02:54:147 (1) - NC for???? Maybe delete NC here
02:57:238 (4) - add NC here
02:58:268 (1) - then remove NC here

[Hyperion's Normal]

00:46:392 (3) - it fits if slidertail looks to le right
02:11:905 (1) - and 02:12:935 (3) - uhm, looks pretty forced to slide here imo, try this as 02:11:905 (1,2,3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517339

[Hard]

AR=7
00:11:877 (5) - Make it further, they will see this as same beat pattern with 00:11:233 (3,4) -
00:31:453 (3) - you can stack it into 00:30:422 (1) - and make a blanket with 00:30:937 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517355
01:25:929 (1) - how about this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517368
01:45:118 (4) - NC or same distance with 01:44:345 (1,2,3) - regardless of the impact of le song

[Light Insane]

AR=8
00:11:878 (6) - idk maybe NC it since SV reduced
00:15:741 (1) - remove NC here and
00:16:514 (3) - Add NC here and
00:17:416 (1) - remove NC here and
00:18:575 (5) - add NC here for well-balanced colorszxzxzxzx
00:44:332 (1,2) - idk you can use 1/3 beat snap to map le vocals imo
00:56:695 (1,2,3) - uhmm, how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517517
01:04:937 (1,2,3,4) - similar with ^
01:11:505 (4,5) - better if you did same as 01:07:384 (4,5,6) - imo
01:15:626 (1,2) - same with ^ so you can put NC on 01:16:270 (3) - as well
01:24:512 (5) - delete? your hard diff was no note here
02:10:875 (2,3) - this shape won't fit in the music imo, maybe make them more simple like 02:12:936 (1) - and 02:09:844 (4) -
02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) - this will be questionable if you don't stream on 02:22:208 (3) - since they have same beat imo
02:36:117 (4) - NC for emphasizing le pre-chorus
02:52:602 (2) - uhmm, maybe map there how you mapped on 02:36:117 - . you obviously skipped 02:52:730 - and 02:52:859 - with this slider lol
03:27:373 - 03:27:888 - 03:28:017 - Add note here for a a a a a a a (don't be scared to put many notes it's already insane ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

yeee that's all for me, call me if u needed again I support you /o/

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Side 2016-02-12T16:51:34+00:00

Hi here's a thing :v

SPOILER

[Easy]

Should highly consider lowering AR to 2, OD to 2 and HP to 1 or 2. This is a 1* easy so these settings would compliment that better.

So you use a LOT of 1/1 sliders. A lot...It's fine but that's pretty boring. This is also gonna be pretty tiring because players will be clicking and releasing a lot. Consider a bit of variety such as using 2/1 sliders, replacing some 1/1 sliders with two 1/1 notes, and adding repeats to some 1/1 sliders.

For example 00:37:120 (3,4) - Could be a 2/1 slider and a note since the slider would start on when she says pieces and the strong drum beat and end where she says "heart" which is also a strong beat then a clickable note on whatever she says at 00:38:665 - would look like this maybe (rough example. Also moved (1) slightly up for spacing consistency.

00:45:362 (3,4) - Here for example you could have a slider repeat on (3) since she sings this part a bit tied together (a bit hard to explain this). More importantly this plays like a 2/1 slider which gives new players a bit of a small clicking break. Here's an example screenshot but not the best example just to show you what I mean.

01:20:391 (1,2) - Instead of these 1/2 notes starting the spinner here would work better since it would make the spinner longer so gives more time for players to pass the spin.

01:30:694 (1,2,3) - These would work better as 1/1 instead of 3/2. For the most part you'd wanna avoid red ticks for easies unless it can be justified. Here for example these sliders sacrifice strong beats on the white ticks to follow the synth thing which is probably not the best thing to follow for this difficulty. Maybe for the later ones but you'd wanna keep it simple for these.

01:38:937 (1,2,3,4) - Follow-up point you didn't do that 3/2 thing here so you'd wanna keep that consistent for newer players to follow.

01:42:027 (4) - Oh and back to the point about variety this for example could work as two notes instead of another 1/1 slider. Would also be easy to play since it's followed by a spinner.

01:51:300 (3,4) - Here's another example of a possible 2/1 slider with note since vocals are quiet at 01:51:815 - (sure drum plays but it's more about the player resting than it is about following every drum beat)

01:55:421 (3,4) - Another thing that could be done for variety using 3/2 slider with repeats for example here at 01:56:193 - she says "be" from supposed to be so it could be a good way to have a repeat. Of course these things do mean changing some patterns around but trust me when I say it will be worth it.

01:59:542 (3,4) - Also another pottential 1/2 slider with a repeat since "skin of my teeth" is tied together with how she sings it (again hard to explain that lol) so a repeat would make sense. This one is also pretty easy to change cuz it would look like this

02:32:511 (3,4,1,2) - Here it might be a nice place to have a spinner starting at 02:32:511 - and ending at 02:34:571 - then deleting 1 and 2 so it acts as a break. It's a nice pause effect leading into the kiai. You can probably even leave the note at 02:36:117 - cos the bpm is pretty low so it doesn't show up during the spin and it acts as a nice note leading into the downbeat at 02:36:632 (1) -

02:40:753 (1,2) - Here for example could also be another 2/1 slider and note.

02:43:844 (4) - And this maybe two notes instead of a 1/1 slider as well

02:59:299 (2,3) - Similar to the point at 01:30:694 (1,2,3) this could be avoided for easier playability and maybe instead changed to a 2/1 slider and note or maybe (2) to become a 1/1 slider and then maybe (3) becomes two notes idk variety and stuffs u know

03:07:541 (3,4,5) - Same as above. Or this could also be a spinner instead since it leads into a small break.

03:24:025 (1,2) - This could be cute as a long slider as in a slider starting at 03:24:025 - and ending at 03:25:570 - maybe with a heart shape or something u know.

[Hyperion's thing]

Cmon aren't you like a drummer or something? :^) also you owe me a mod js >:v (still don't need it yet so no worries)

Consider AR5. It's still a pretty baby normal with low bpm so high AR isn't needed. Especially cuz the other diffs should also reduce them imo.

00:33:771 (2) - Change from clap to custom whistle.

00:49:482 (1) - Missing clap on tail

02:03:147 (3) - Add clap to only the head. Currently it's added to the whole slider.

02:44:874 (1) - Shame you used the low sound as a whistle addition. Could've worked better as a drum-hitnormal but meh. Add a whistle to the head to get that custom hitsound sound here. Might also wanna consider removing the custom whistles from 02:44:359 (4) - maybe use default for those instead at least. This one is more of a suggestion I suppose since you do that later on as well so up to you.

02:53:631 (2) - Missing clap on head

03:01:359 (1) - ^ on slider end

03:19:904 (1) - ^

Damn those customs blend into the song it was harder to hear those missing ones :v

[Hard]

Use AR7 better. Low BPM and song is pretty easy to need anything higher.

00:11:620 (4) - Might wanna space this out more so it doesn't read like a triple. Maybe just like this.

00:18:316 (2) - This would play really well as two notes so you emphasize 00:18:574 - as a clickable object. Could even add a bit more distance to that note for emphasis if you want.

00:36:089 - 00:40:210 - Four seconds of 3/4 sliders is pretty boring even for a hard. Might wanna mix it up a bit. 00:38:665 (2) - Maybe change this to two 1/2 notes or something idk. Same for 00:39:180 (3) - This suggestion goes for the other parts where you do this like 00:39:180 (3) - 02:02:632 (1) - etc.

01:59:542 (2,3) - Since 02:00:572 - is pretty quiet in the music you could instead delete (3) and reduce the repeats on (2) by one then add a note at 02:00:314 - so it plays pretty well and adds a nice pause effect. Could look something like this

02:34:571 (3) - Could probably look a bit shapelier if you play around with it like this or better still this was just a quick thing ;v

03:26:343 - I feel spinner could start here isntead and end at 03:28:146 - leaving the other part to the outro. Feels pretty empty atm. This also applies for the other diffs.

[Light Insane]

Raise OD to 7. OD6 is baby od for a light insane :v

00:05:052 (3,4) - So a rhythm option you don't seem to like is using a 1/1 slider and then a note like this but it's so cool and deals with any polarity concerns as well. Consider adding more of these like 00:11:234 (4,5) - needs more and more and more :v

00:26:817 (1,2) - So an issue with this is the spacing is the same from (1) to (2) as it is between 00:28:105 (3,4) - except the first is 1/4 and this is 1/2. Doesn't read all that well. Harder to distinct them and since the map switches rhythm patterns constantly it's hard to keep up with. Consistency with these things is pretty important for readability. Can't really suggest something for these parts (there are more later on etc) so look out for them and consider reworking them to something that reads a bit better.

00:36:089 - NOOOo don't do this again for this diff

There are SO many more things you can do besides this. It's pretty boring but there's a lot going on with the drums and other ways to bring out the vocals aside from 3/4 slider spam.

For example 00:44:332 (1,2) - could be a note then triplet and note like this, or 00:46:392 (8,1) - could be three 1/2 notes etc. LOTS of possibilities. Switch it up a bit for this like you do in the rest of the map.

00:51:544 (1) - Remove finish and put it back on but only on the slider head (double click the slider head so it highlights red in the timeline like this so the finish is only on the head and not the whole slider.

01:50:527 (1) - 1/4 slider again after 01:49:497 (4,5,6) - is a bit too much. Change to just a note.

01:54:648 (2) - Same as above. No need to do this for added difficulty since it doesn't really add much to the song. Some people might call that overmapping (it's not necessarily since it's not an active object) but still better avoid this.

02:02:632 (1) - And again for this section do something else

02:36:117 (4) - Could have started at 02:35:988 - and added one more repeat to follow the vocals.

Overall it's not bad. The spread is heading in the right direction. You should tell hyperion to hitsound your diffs for you cuz they are VERY inconsistent and lots are missing. I could've suggested some but too much work not enough time and it might just need to be fully redone so it's consistent. The light insane could use a bit more variety and consistency with spacing also there was a lot of triple rhythm like 01:53:103 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - that could've been avoided as it doesn't add much to the song. Lots of potential to make a nice light insane without the need to add rhythm or 3/4 slider spam x_x

Hope this helps. Good luck

Easy

109 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Easy 2016-02-12T17:25:36+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
sry I'm late

[Easy]
It's just some random suggestion but yee try move your break to 00:19:862 - where the vocals will start, you can emphasize le echo of instrument there
00:38:150 (4) - how about adding le curve thingy on the tail? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517289
01:48:209 (4) - use simple slider to make it looks more smooth (and can avoid le out of area) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517304
02:33:541 (4) - decrease curve angle to make it more smooth circular-looking? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517311
02:54:147 (1) - NC for???? Maybe delete NC here
02:57:238 (4) - add NC here
02:58:268 (1) - then remove NC here
[Hyperion's Normal]
00:46:392 (3) - it fits if slidertail looks to le right
02:11:905 (1) - and 02:12:935 (3) - uhm, looks pretty forced to slide here imo, try this as 02:11:905 (1,2,3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517339
[Hard]
AR=7
00:11:877 (5) - Make it further, they will see this as same beat pattern with 00:11:233 (3,4) -
00:31:453 (3) - you can stack it into 00:30:422 (1) - and make a blanket with 00:30:937 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517355
01:25:929 (1) - how about this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517368
01:45:118 (4) - NC or same distance with 01:44:345 (1,2,3) - regardless of the impact of le song
[Light Insane]
AR=8
00:11:878 (6) - idk maybe NC it since SV reduced
00:15:741 (1) - remove NC here and
00:16:514 (3) - Add NC here and
00:17:416 (1) - remove NC here and
00:18:575 (5) - add NC here for well-balanced colorszxzxzxzx
00:44:332 (1,2) - idk you can use 1/3 beat snap to map le vocals imo
00:56:695 (1,2,3) - uhmm, how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517517
01:04:937 (1,2,3,4) - similar with ^
01:11:505 (4,5) - better if you did same as 01:07:384 (4,5,6) - imo
01:15:626 (1,2) - same with ^ so you can put NC on 01:16:270 (3) - as well
01:24:512 (5) - delete? your hard diff was no note here
02:10:875 (2,3) - this shape won't fit in the music imo, maybe make them more simple like 02:12:936 (1) - and 02:09:844 (4) -
02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) - this will be questionable if you don't stream on 02:22:208 (3) - since they have same beat imo
02:36:117 (4) - NC for emphasizing le pre-chorus
02:52:602 (2) - uhmm, maybe map there how you mapped on 02:36:117 - . you obviously skipped 02:52:730 - and 02:52:859 - with this slider lol
03:27:373 - 03:27:888 - 03:28:017 - Add note here for a a a a a a a (don't be scared to put many notes it's already insane ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
yeee that's all for me, call me if u needed again I support you /o/

Fixed all the things you mentioned for easy, and hard. However, I didn't change one thing in the Light Insane difficulty, and here's why.

02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) - I didn't change this because tbh, it feels better this way. The plucks in this area are very upbeat compared to 02:22:208 (3) and I tried putting a slider to replace 02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) like you suggested, but it felt very plain. 02:22:208 (3) - works without being a short slider stream because of the vocals it emphasized.

Hyperion hasn't looked at the mod for his normal map yet, so I'll update this post when it's done if he decides to change anything.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-02-12T17:47:09+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
sry I'm late

[Hyperion's Normal]
00:46:392 (3) - it fits if slidertail looks to le right I don't really feel this would improve the flow since the bend on (3) is so small, and it won't look as nice so I'll keep the current pattern
02:11:905 (1) - and 02:12:935 (3) - uhm, looks pretty forced to slide here imo, try this as 02:11:905 (1,2,3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517339 Curved this a bit less, should look nicer now

Side wrote:
[Hyperion's thing]

Cmon aren't you like a drummer or something? :^) I don't normal map this kind of music so not surprised it needs some work aye
also you owe me a mod js >:v (still don't need it yet so no worries) Yeah yeah I know, my memory isn't that bad xD

Consider AR5. It's still a pretty baby normal with low bpm so high AR isn't needed. Especially cuz the other diffs should also reduce them imo. Swore I did this before but yeah, done

00:33:771 (2) - Change from clap to custom whistle. Done

00:49:482 (1) - Missing clap on tail Fixed

02:03:147 (3) - Add clap to only the head. Currently it's added to the whole slider. Good spot, fixed

02:44:874 (1) - Shame you used the low sound as a whistle addition. Could've worked better as a drum-hitnormal but meh. Add a whistle to the head to get that custom hitsound sound here. Might also wanna consider removing the custom whistles from 02:44:359 (4) - maybe use default for those instead at least. This one is more of a suggestion I suppose since you do that later on as well so up to you. I really like the current hs pattern actually; though I agree drum normals could fit here, I feel it's a little inconsistent with my other hitsound choices. As for default normal whistle, well let's just say I'd rather not trigger myself every time I test, play, edit or watch this map, because I freaking hate that thing (^:

02:53:631 (2) - Missing clap on head Fixed

03:01:359 (1) - ^ on slider end Fixed

03:19:904 (1) - ^ And this one

Damn those customs blend into the song it was harder to hear those missing ones :v Gonna try bumping the volume up to bring some more of that sexy drum emphasis <3

Thanks for the mods guys! (:

@Lolipop - feel free to copy my hitsounds for your diffs, or we can find some free time to discuss stuff if you want to do something different

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Easy

109 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Easy 2016-02-12T20:25:45+00:00

Side wrote:
Hi here's a thing :v

SPOILER
[Easy]

Should highly consider lowering AR to 2, OD to 2 and HP to 1 or 2. This is a 1* easy so these settings would compliment that better. Keeping AR 3, changed to OD 2, and changed to HP 2, but I may consider keeping it at HP 3 later on.

So you use a LOT of 1/1 sliders. A lot...It's fine but that's pretty boring. This is also gonna be pretty tiring because players will be clicking and releasing a lot. Consider a bit of variety such as using 2/1 sliders, replacing some 1/1 sliders with two 1/1 notes, and adding repeats to some 1/1 sliders. fixed

For example 00:37:120 (3,4) - Could be a 2/1 slider and a note since the slider would start on when she says pieces and the strong drum beat and end where she says "heart" which is also a strong beat then a clickable note on whatever she says at 00:38:665 - would look like this maybe (rough example. Also moved (1) slightly up for spacing consistency. fixed

00:45:362 (3,4) - Here for example you could have a slider repeat on (3) since she sings this part a bit tied together (a bit hard to explain this). More importantly this plays like a 2/1 slider which gives new players a bit of a small clicking break. Here's an example screenshot but not the best example just to show you what I mean. fixed

01:20:391 (1,2) - Instead of these 1/2 notes starting the spinner here would work better since it would make the spinner longer so gives more time for players to pass the spin. fixed

01:30:694 (1,2,3) - These would work better as 1/1 instead of 3/2. For the most part you'd wanna avoid red ticks for easies unless it can be justified. Here for example these sliders sacrifice strong beats on the white ticks to follow the synth thing which is probably not the best thing to follow for this difficulty. Maybe for the later ones but you'd wanna keep it simple for these. fixed

01:38:937 (1,2,3,4) - Follow-up point you didn't do that 3/2 thing here so you'd wanna keep that consistent for newer players to follow. Removed the 3/2 pattern.

01:42:027 (4) - Oh and back to the point about variety this for example could work as two notes instead of another 1/1 slider. Would also be easy to play since it's followed by a spinner. fixed

01:51:300 (3,4) - Here's another example of a possible 2/1 slider with note since vocals are quiet at 01:51:815 - (sure drum plays but it's more about the player resting than it is about following every drum beat) fixed

01:55:421 (3,4) - Another thing that could be done for variety using 3/2 slider with repeats for example here at 01:56:193 - she says "be" from supposed to be so it could be a good way to have a repeat. Of course these things do mean changing some patterns around but trust me when I say it will be worth it. fixed

01:59:542 (3,4) - Also another pottential 1/2 slider with a repeat since "skin of my teeth" is tied together with how she sings it (again hard to explain that lol) so a repeat would make sense. This one is also pretty easy to change cuz it would look like this fixed

02:32:511 (3,4,1,2) - Here it might be a nice place to have a spinner starting at 02:32:511 - and ending at 02:34:571 - then deleting 1 and 2 so it acts as a break. It's a nice pause effect leading into the kiai. You can probably even leave the note at 02:36:117 - cos the bpm is pretty low so it doesn't show up during the spin and it acts as a nice note leading into the downbeat at 02:36:632 (1) - fixed. nice idea

02:40:753 (1,2) - Here for example could also be another 2/1 slider and note. fixed

02:43:844 (4) - And this maybe two notes instead of a 1/1 slider as well fixed

02:59:299 (2,3) - Similar to the point at 01:30:694 (1,2,3) this could be avoided for easier playability and maybe instead changed to a 2/1 slider and note or maybe (2) to become a 1/1 slider and then maybe (3) becomes two notes idk variety and stuffs u know fixed

03:07:541 (3,4,5) - Same as above. Or this could also be a spinner instead since it leads into a small break. fixed

03:24:025 (1,2) - This could be cute as a long slider as in a slider starting at 03:24:025 - and ending at 03:25:570 - maybe with a heart shape or something u know. I put a shape at the end, but I couldn't make a heart. I'll keep trying

[Hyperion's thing]

Cmon aren't you like a drummer or something? :^) also you owe me a mod js >:v (still don't need it yet so no worries)

Consider AR5. It's still a pretty baby normal with low bpm so high AR isn't needed. Especially cuz the other diffs should also reduce them imo.

00:33:771 (2) - Change from clap to custom whistle.

00:49:482 (1) - Missing clap on tail

02:03:147 (3) - Add clap to only the head. Currently it's added to the whole slider.

02:44:874 (1) - Shame you used the low sound as a whistle addition. Could've worked better as a drum-hitnormal but meh. Add a whistle to the head to get that custom hitsound sound here. Might also wanna consider removing the custom whistles from 02:44:359 (4) - maybe use default for those instead at least. This one is more of a suggestion I suppose since you do that later on as well so up to you.

02:53:631 (2) - Missing clap on head

03:01:359 (1) - ^ on slider end

03:19:904 (1) - ^

Damn those customs blend into the song it was harder to hear those missing ones :v

Fixed as needed

[Hard]

Use AR7 better. Low BPM and song is pretty easy to need anything higher. Fixed

00:11:620 (4) - Might wanna space this out more so it doesn't read like a triple. Maybe just like this. Fixed

00:18:316 (2) - This would play really well as two notes so you emphasize 00:18:574 - as a clickable object. Could even add a bit more distance to that note for emphasis if you want. Fixed

00:36:089 - 00:40:210 - Four seconds of 3/4 sliders is pretty boring even for a hard. Might wanna mix it up a bit. 00:38:665 (2) - Maybe change this to two 1/2 notes or something idk. Same for 00:39:180 (3) - This suggestion goes for the other parts where you do this like 00:39:180 (3) - 02:02:632 (1) - etc.
This flow section is to emphasize the vocals. I won't change it to something different because it would go against how I want the map to be, and imo, I think this part is perfect the way it is.

01:59:542 (2,3) - Since 02:00:572 - is pretty quiet in the music you could instead delete (3) and reduce the repeats on (2) by one then add a note at 02:00:314 - so it plays pretty well and adds a nice pause effect. Could look something like this Fixed. Nice idea

02:34:571 (3) - Could probably look a bit shapelier if you play around with it like this or better still this was just a quick thing ;v I changed the shape a little bit.

03:26:343 - I feel spinner could start here instead and end at 03:28:146 - leaving the other part to the outro. Feels pretty empty atm. This also applies for the other diffs. It does feel empty, but I think pause right there in some difficulties is fine. If I get any ideas of what to do here in later mods as well, I'll consider changing it.

[Light Insane]

Raise OD to 7. OD6 is baby od for a light insane :v Fixed

00:05:052 (3,4) - So a rhythm option you don't seem to like is using a 1/1 slider and then a note like this but it's so cool and deals with any polarity concerns as well. Consider adding more of these like 00:11:234 (4,5) - needs more and more and more :v Not changing this because these 2 sliders already follow the vocals fine. Also, you're right. I don't like 1/1 sliders that much unless they fit somewhere and I can't do anything else with a section of a map

00:26:817 (1,2) - So an issue with this is the spacing is the same from (1) to (2) as it is between 00:28:105 (3,4) - except the first is 1/4 and this is 1/2. Doesn't read all that well. Harder to distinct them and since the map switches rhythm patterns constantly it's hard to keep up with. Consistency with these things is pretty important for readability. Can't really suggest something for these parts (there are more later on etc) so look out for them and consider reworking them to something that reads a bit better. Replaced 00:26:817 (1,2) with a 1/1 slider.

00:36:089 - NOOOo don't do this again for this diff There are SO many more things you can do besides this. It's pretty boring but there's a lot going on with the drums and other ways to bring out the vocals aside from 3/4 slider spam. Still not changing. I'll say it again.. this follows the vocals, and changing it would go against the point of having a flow section there.

For example 00:44:332 (1,2) - could be a note then triplet and note like this, or 00:46:392 (8,1) - could be three 1/2 notes etc. LOTS of possibilities. Switch it up a bit for this like you do in the rest of the map. I feel like this would be overmapping since the melodic rhythm in the back is very mellow, and it doesn't follow much, therefore, I won't be changing this.

00:51:544 (1) - Remove finish and put it back on but only on the slider head (double click the slider head so it highlights red in the timeline like this so the finish is only on the head and not the whole slider. Thanks for pointing this out. It's been fixed

01:50:527 (1) - 1/4 slider again after 01:49:497 (4,5,6) - is a bit too much. Change to just a note. I've played my map multiple times, and this part, or the general style of the parts between kiais, is perfectly fine. If I change it to just a note, it would feel empty compared to how it was before. So, not changing this either.

01:54:648 (2) - Same as above. No need to do this for added difficulty since it doesn't really add much to the song. Some people might call that overmapping (it's not necessarily since it's not an active object) but still better avoid this. I don't think I'm overmapping, and I'm not doing it to make the map really hard. I think this style works fine, and I like it tbh.

02:02:632 (1) - And again for this section do something else Following the vocals again, and I want this to be a flow section, so not changing.

02:36:117 (4) - Could have started at 02:35:988 - and added one more repeat to follow the vocals. Feels like it's too much, so I'm keeping it the way it is.

Overall it's not bad. The spread is heading in the right direction. You should tell hyperion to hitsound your diffs for you cuz they are VERY inconsistent and lots are missing. I asked, and I don't think he'd mind doing it, but I like how light my difficulties feel, and I don't really want to use the same loud hitsounds he's using. I'd like to hitsound my maps the way I want to. I could've suggested some but too much work not enough time and it might just need to be fully redone so it's consistent. This map doesn't need redone. I'll take mods for it, and fix things that need to be fixed, but I'm not redoing it for the sake of making it more consistent so it fits the ranking system just right, and no one complains. The light insane could use a bit more variety and consistency with spacing also there was a lot of triple rhythm like 01:53:103 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - that could've been avoided as it doesn't add much to the song. That's the style of the map. I wanted to make something different, so this is what happened, and I don't think it needs changed. Lots of potential to make a nice light insane without the need to add rhythm or 3/4 slider spam x_x [color=#4040FF][b]lol. Again, it's part of the map, it follows the vocals fine, it flows really well, and won't change it. Sorry you don't like it.

Hope this helps. Good luck

You can find what I fixed and disagreed with inside the spoiler box.

Janpai

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Joined March 2015

Janpai 2016-02-13T02:49:22+00:00

M4M via PM

General

Uncheck Widescreen Support because there is no storyboard

Easy

Check AiMod for DS issues
00:32:998 (3,1) - Fix blanket
00:36:089 (2) - I don't think this slider art fits with the music
you can make it just a simple one
00:44:332 (2) - ^
01:10:087 (3,4) - To be more fitting with the music, make this
01:10:087 (3) a circle then move 01:11:118 (4) on the white near the
circle
02:06:754 (2) - slider art problems
02:59:299 (3) - Can't really find out or hear anything followed by
this beat maybe make it a 1/1 slider instead
Just a comment here, the diff is so full of 1/1 beats, you can
make variations of patterns, it's like your mapping the metronome and
doesn't have enough objects to emphasize some vocals

Hyperion's Normal

DS consistency is also a must for normals, there are some .8x and
1.3x on objects?
00:57:210 (3) - I think 1/4 beats are unusual for normals? even
though the BPM is slow
03:17:070 (2,3) - stack them properly
This diff looks like a hard but the star rating is low because of
the BPM

Hard

00:02:991 (2) - Mapping on blue ticks must avoid unless it's
necessary but I think there variations here (I just can't see any for
now)
00:27:847 (1) - The lyric starts here 00:28:104 not on 00:27:847
00:36:089 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Don't you think this pattern is so
dense even though it follows the lyrics somehow
01:05:452 (3,4) - This one is dense too
01:26:573
(2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,
1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - patterns are dense and too much compressed
The other kiai time was dense too

I'm pretty lazy to mod the light insane just gonna give you a star no
kds if not helped :3

Easy

109 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Easy 2016-02-13T05:51:09+00:00

Janpai wrote:
M4M via PM
General
Uncheck Widescreen Support because there is no storyboard Fixed
Easy
Check AiMod for DS issues Fixed, but there may be one left that I can't fix no matter how I place it. Maybe a bug.. idk
00:32:998 (3,1) - Fix blanket Fixed
00:36:089 (2) - I don't think this slider art fits with the music
you can make it just a simple one Fixed
00:44:332 (2) - ^ Fixed
01:10:087 (3,4) - To be more fitting with the music, make this
01:10:087 (3) a circle then move 01:11:118 (4) on the white near the
circle Fixed
02:06:754 (2) - slider art problems Fixed
02:59:299 (3) - Can't really find out or hear anything followed by
this beat maybe make it a 1/1 slider instead Fixed
Just a comment here, the diff is so full of 1/1 beats, you can
make variations of patterns, it's like your mapping the metronome and
doesn't have enough objects to emphasize some vocals I'll look over the map later to see if I can change it up at all. The reason I'm placing so many 1/1 sliders is because I wanted an easy difficulty, but I needed to stay under Hyperion's Normal map. Also, I'm taking advantage of making shapes that cover some beats like what a reverse slider would do, but tbh, I'll go back and see if I can change a few of them.
Hyperion's Normal
DS consistency is also a must for normals, there are some .8x and
1.3x on objects?
00:57:210 (3) - I think 1/4 beats are unusual for normals? even
though the BPM is slow
03:17:070 (2,3) - stack them properly
This diff looks like a hard but the star rating is low because of
the BPM

Will update when Hyperion decides to look at this mod.
Hard
00:02:991 (2) - Mapping on blue ticks must avoid unless it's
necessary but I think there variations here (I just can't see any for
now) Sliders like this follow the vocals, and I don't see that there's a need to change them. I know that I shouldn't map on blue ticks much, but this is an exception.
00:27:847 (1) - The lyric starts here 00:28:104 not on 00:27:847 Fixed
00:36:089 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Don't you think this pattern is so
dense even though it follows the lyrics somehow I still don't think there's a problem with this pattern. I might pm u in game later about this, but I don't want to change it.
01:05:452 (3,4) - This one is dense too Fixed
01:26:573
(2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,
1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - patterns are dense and too much compressed If you're talking about the flow of sliders in the kiai, I don't want to change it, but if I can think of something better, I will.
The other kiai time was dense too ^
I'm pretty lazy to mod the light insane just gonna give you a star no
kds if not helped :3 Thanks

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-02-13T09:49:43+00:00

Janpai wrote:
M4M via PM

Hyperion's Normal
DS consistency is also a must for normals, there are some .8x and
1.3x on objects? There is no rule in the Ranking Criteria suggesting that DS must be the same in Normal diffs - the reason for the discrepancy is because of patterns like 00:23:210 (2,3) and 02:34:571 (1,1) with larger spacings between them. 1.3x DS here would put these objects a singificant distance apart, and the player may be unable to react to them. In this way, I am helping ease the player into the map rather than throwing large spacings out right from the start. This should not be confusing to a beginner as it is done consistently throughout the map
00:57:210 (3) - I think 1/4 beats are unusual for normals? even
though the BPM is slow Unusual, maybe. Disallowed? I think they should be okay, it's clearly indicated as a repeat slider since the repeat is visible and there's only one approach circle to follow
03:17:070 (2,3) - stack them properly They are already stacked properly
This diff looks like a hard but the star rating is low because of
the BPM No jumps, majority slider usage, slow SV, low note density... This is 100% a Normal diff ^^

Thanks for the mod! Cleaned up a few spacings and slider shapes myself.

Normal

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Easy

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Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Easy 2016-02-13T22:21:01+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

Janpai wrote:
M4M via PM

Hyperion's Normal
DS consistency is also a must for normals, there are some .8x and
1.3x on objects? There is no rule in the Ranking Criteria suggesting that DS must be the same in Normal diffs - the reason for the discrepancy is because of patterns like 00:23:210 (2,3) and 02:34:571 (1,1) with larger spacings between them. 1.3x DS here would put these objects a singificant distance apart, and the player may be unable to react to them. In this way, I am helping ease the player into the map rather than throwing large spacings out right from the start. This should not be confusing to a beginner as it is done consistently throughout the map
00:57:210 (3) - I think 1/4 beats are unusual for normals? even
though the BPM is slow Unusual, maybe. Disallowed? I think they should be okay, it's clearly indicated as a repeat slider since the repeat is visible and there's only one approach circle to follow
03:17:070 (2,3) - stack them properly They are already stacked properly
This diff looks like a hard but the star rating is low because of
the BPM No jumps, majority slider usage, slow SV, low note density... This is 100% a Normal diff ^^

Thanks for the mod! Cleaned up a few spacings and slider shapes myself.

Normal

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Phoebe Ryan - Mine (Illenium Remix) Nightcore.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 85929
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.9

[Metadata]
Title:Mine (Nightcore Mix)
TitleUnicode:Mine (Nightcore Mix)
Artist:Phoebe Ryan
ArtistUnicode:Phoebe Ryan
Creator:Lolipop
Version:Hyperion's Normal
Source:
Tags:Electronic Melodic Dubstep JBHyperion
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[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:4
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MokouSmoke

495 posts

Joined May 2013

MokouSmoke 2016-02-13T23:49:01+00:00

from #modreqs

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[General]

consider muting sliderslide.wav. it sounds pretty noisy

[light insane]

I think at the beginning of the song, it's always nice to establish a little bit of consistency so players can get used to the rhythm of the song. That means stacking at 00:04:151 (1,2) - and 00:05:052 (3,4,5) - should be the same rhythm as 00:02:992 (3,4,5) - . In particular, I don't agree with the rhythm at 00:05:052 (3,4) - since it gives 00:05:180 - and 00:05:438 - equal emphasis, when the song clearly has a stronger beat at 00:05:438 -
00:11:234 (4,5,1) - flow is bad since players have to curve away from the slider body to hit (5) http://puu.sh/n6Rgk/f4567cd5a6.jpg recommend you move (5) to [~256, ~180]
00:11:878 (1) - I'd remove this SV change. There's really nothing in the song that suggests it and you don't make use of a slider+SV change at 00:15:999 (2) - which sounds identical in the song
00:13:938 (3,4,1) - prefer DS here but ok
00:36:089 (1) - this gets pretty boring if you use it 10x in a row. I think you could mix in some rhythms like this to make it more interesting http://puu.sh/n6RPr/385127977a.jpg
01:06:611 (2,3) - I don't hear anything in the music at 01:06:611 - or 01:06:868 - so following strings is better here with this rhythm 01:06:868 - http://puu.sh/n6SeN/ed706323fb.jpg
01:07:384 (4,5,6) - you've been following vocals, and this does a poor job at that since it places the emphasis on 01:07:641 - when the strong beat is at 01:07:512 - . suggest 01:07:513 (5,6) - ctrl+g to fix
01:11:118 (3) - missing clap?
01:15:240 (6) - I know you're following vocals, but it's pretty intense here so why not follow drums when the vocals aren't there? http://puu.sh/n6SWI/8be920f9f1.jpg
01:18:073 (1) - generally downbeats are stronger beats, and I don't think this one is an exception. Would break this into two notes so the downbeat can get proper emphasis
01:19:618 - I would add a note here for better transition from 1/2 rhythm to vocals
01:32:755 (1,2,3) - yeah, having two large 1/4 gaps in a row is not good for a light insane diff
01:43:443 - this should be clickable imo to represent the instrument. http://puu.sh/n6TCW/bd950c36a6.jpg or http://puu.sh/n6TGb/38bf78ffad.jpg to avoid the awkward 3/4 gap as well
01:46:921 (1) - ok I haven't really been commenting about NCs since you've been using those to follow vocals but I think NC should be at 01:47:178 (2) - . personally, I'm a fan of NCs on downbeats but whatever works
01:47:436 (3,4) - prefer triple instead so 01:47:436 - doesn't receive extra emphasis
01:47:436 (3,4,5) - oh god, fix the spacing. you can't even distinguish the 1/4 and 1/2 spacing. use ~1.6x spacing at 01:47:694 (4,5) - just like you did at 01:49:755 (5,6) -
01:53:360 (3) - so starting here, the melody of the music is basically identical to 01:45:118 (1) - but the NC's between the two sections aren't similar. You should probably fix this so that there's more consistency in your NC patterns.
01:53:618 (4,5,1) - even though you use the same spacings as the example mentioned above, here it's ok since the NC indicates a spacing change, but I'd still prefer if you fixed the spacing
02:09:844 (4) - make this a note and break up the slider train
02:13:966 (3) - ^
02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) - the music here sounds basically identical to 02:18:087 (4,5,1) - so why is note density and spacing higher here?
02:23:625 (1,2) - strong vocal is at 02:23:753 - so do this: http://puu.sh/n6V0J/cf6f45cf81.jpg
02:33:155 (5,1,2) - DS pls, no reason why the spacing between 02:33:155 (5,1) - should be so small
02:34:829 (1,2,3) - would prefer if you follow the electronic instrument here since it's the most prevalent http://puu.sh/n6VlL/7798113f44.jpg
02:36:632 (1) - so you probably already know this, but the instrument rhythm in this kiai is different than in your previous kiai, so the rhythm patterns you use here should change as well. I would recommend you add clickable objects at 02:37:533 - 02:38:177 - 02:38:435 - 02:39:594 - etc...
03:26:987 (3,4,5) - DS

~~Taking a break, but I'll look at the other diffs soon.~~
[Hard]

Hitsound placement feels inconsistent throughout the map, especially the clap usage
00:02:991 (2) - I think it sounds better to extend to 00:03:377 - same thing with all the other similar sliders
00:59:785 (1) - rotate this or something to avoid overlap
01:05:323 - add a note here?
01:33:785 (2,3) - suggestion to follow song better http://puu.sh/n6XZ2/d69a393990.jpg
02:01:345 (5,1) - ctrl+g rhythm
02:23:624 (1,2) - same comment as insane

[Normal]

00:55:664 - make this clickable pls. same with 01:03:906 -
01:15:755 (4) - are 1/4 repeat sliders allowed for normal? Might be hard to read for new players
01:53:875 (2,1) - why 1.3x spacing here when 01:45:633 (2,3) - is 1.0x
03:27:631 (3) - 1/2 slider matches lower song intensity imo.

[Easy]

01:43:057 (1,1) - not enough recovery time after spinner
01:54:391 (2) - curve the slider tail the other way so it flows into (3) better
02:32:511 (1,1) - same spinner comment
03:05:480 (1,2) - fix flow break

Good luck!

Last edited by MokouSmoke 2016-02-14T00:43:45+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2016-02-13T23:56:57+00:00

[Easy]
00:18:574 - I'd really try adding in some notes before here, as of now, OD and accuracy are completely useless (and this IS a rhythm game so ye)
yknow what take that for the whole diff
01:03:907 (1,2) - These curves don't really flow well into each other, there are more cases like this at times like: 01:39:967 (2,3) -

[Normal]
00:22:180 (3,2) - If you put on stacking, you see that slider 3 is pushed up towards 00:21:408 (2) - making inconsistent spacing, and also 00:23:210 (2) - is very unneatly stacked in a way normal players would likely not want.
00:54:634 (2,3) - Man this would feel so much better as two 1/2 sliders and a note
01:31:466 (2) - This doesnt need to be here at all! It just makes 01:31:724 - this sound weird

[Hard]
00:18:059 - I'd make this clickable as it is a vocal, like 00:18:316 (2,3) -
01:25:929 (1) - This is really weird because all the last vocals skipped the first blue tick, making hitting this unexpected so early, and likely causing a slider break.
01:46:921 (4) - No need for slider here yo
03:09:601 - Pretty nice if i could tap this, perhaps remove the slider and add two circles, or shorten the slider.

[Light Insane]
The rhythms an use of 1/4 sliders on this are overmapped. Consider stuff like 00:32:226 (1,2,3) - which dont need 1/4 slider pressure. If anything, it ruins the smooth feel of the vocals. I'd look over the difficulty as a whole for things like this.
Also if you dont change them, consider reducing the volume for all slider ends in those cases.
00:11:234 (4,5,1) - Misleading spacing
01:07:770 - No point skippin this sound, you may not like 4 notes in a row, but if so then making the end sound less emphasised isn't the best choice. Either make it 4 notes, or make it a double with a reverse slider at the end. Both feel much better in play!
01:18:330 - Rip strong sound and downbeat
02:01:603 (3,4) - Don't stack this strong sound! Spacing = Emphasis, so stacking this adds none!
02:35:988 - And now you miss the 1/4 ;-;

quick mod gl

Easy

109 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Easy 2016-02-14T02:11:11+00:00

MokouSmoke wrote:
from #modreqs
[General]
consider muting sliderslide.wav. it sounds pretty noisy There's no file in this beatmap called sliderslide.wav . You sure it's not just your skin?
[light insane]
I think at the beginning of the song, it's always nice to establish a little bit of consistency so players can get used to the rhythm of the song. That means stacking at 00:04:151 (1,2) - and 00:05:052 (3,4,5) - should be the same rhythm as 00:02:992 (3,4,5) - . In particular, I don't agree with the rhythm at 00:05:052 (3,4) - since it gives 00:05:180 - and 00:05:438 - equal emphasis, when the song clearly has a stronger beat at 00:05:438 - Fixed
00:11:234 (4,5,1) - flow is bad since players have to curve away from the slider body to hit (5) http://puu.sh/n6Rgk/f4567cd5a6.jpg recommend you move (5) to [~256, ~180] Spread out this area to make it flow better.
00:11:878 (1) - I'd remove this SV change. There's really nothing in the song that suggests it and you don't make use of a slider+SV change at 00:15:999 (2) - which sounds identical in the song Removed the SV change. Feels different, but makes sense.
00:13:938 (3,4,1) - prefer DS here but ok Nothing's wrong with this, and I don't plan to change it.
00:36:089 (1) - this gets pretty boring if you use it 10x in a row. I think you could mix in some rhythms like this to make it more interesting http://puu.sh/n6RPr/385127977a.jpg I took your advise and added a some things to make it more interesting.
01:06:611 (2,3) - I don't hear anything in the music at 01:06:611 - or 01:06:868 - so following strings is better here with this rhythm 01:06:868 - http://puu.sh/n6SeN/ed706323fb.jpg Fixed
01:07:384 (4,5,6) - you've been following vocals, and this does a poor job at that since it places the emphasis on 01:07:641 - when the strong beat is at 01:07:512 - . suggest 01:07:513 (5,6) - ctrl+g to fix Fixed
01:11:118 (3) - missing clap? Fixed
01:15:240 (6) - I know you're following vocals, but it's pretty intense here so why not follow drums when the vocals aren't there? http://puu.sh/n6SWI/8be920f9f1.jpg I'd rather keep the intensity here, and I don't see why I need to change it.
01:18:073 (1) - generally downbeats are stronger beats, and I don't think this one is an exception. Would break this into two notes so the downbeat can get proper emphasis Fixed
01:19:618 - I would add a note here for better transition from 1/2 rhythm to vocals Fixed
01:32:755 (1,2,3) - yeah, having two large 1/4 gaps in a row is not good for a light insane diff *cough* are you saying this entire kiai section is wrong?
01:43:443 - this should be clickable imo to represent the instrument. http://puu.sh/n6TCW/bd950c36a6.jpg or http://puu.sh/n6TGb/38bf78ffad.jpg to avoid the awkward 3/4 gap as well Fixed. Great idea
01:46:921 (1) - ok I haven't really been commenting about NCs since you've been using those to follow vocals but I think NC should be at 01:47:178 (2) - . personally, I'm a fan of NCs on downbeats but whatever works I understand your logic, but I'm not changing this to a NC because the current NC feels more natural.
01:47:436 (3,4) - prefer triple instead so 01:47:436 - doesn't receive extra emphasis I don't see any problem here. I tried adding a stream or a triple, but it didn't feel right, so I'm keeping this the way it is.
01:47:436 (3,4,5) - oh god, fix the spacing. you can't even distinguish the 1/4 and 1/2 spacing. use ~1.6x spacing at 01:47:694 (4,5) - just like you did at 01:49:755 (5,6) - Fixed
01:53:360 (3) - so starting here, the melody of the music is basically identical to 01:45:118 (1) - but the NC's between the two sections aren't similar. You should probably fix this so that there's more consistency in your NC patterns. Fixed
01:53:618 (4,5,1) - even though you use the same spacings as the example mentioned above, here it's ok since the NC indicates a spacing change, but I'd still prefer if you fixed the spacing How...? What is there to fix in the spacing? I fixed what u mentioned above, but I don't see what else is wrong lol
02:09:844 (4) - make this a note and break up the slider train Fixed
02:13:966 (3) - ^ No matter what I try, it doesn't feel natural like it does in the beginning, so I'm leaving this alone.
02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) - the music here sounds basically identical to 02:18:087 (4,5,1) - so why is note density and spacing higher here? If you're talking about the background plucks, then yes, it's similar, but I'm keeping the vocals in mind, and that seemed like a good area to move around more in. Someone even suggested before putting a 1/1 slider there, but it just didn't feel right.
02:23:625 (1,2) - strong vocal is at 02:23:753 - so do this: http://puu.sh/n6V0J/cf6f45cf81.jpg Fixed
02:33:155 (5,1,2) - DS pls, no reason why the spacing between 02:33:155 (5,1) - should be so small Fixed
02:34:829 (1,2,3) - would prefer if you follow the electronic instrument here since it's the most prevalent http://puu.sh/n6VlL/7798113f44.jpg I slowed down to 25%, listened to it, and noticed that it follows electronic instument, and the vocals fine, so I'm not changing it.
02:36:632 (1) - so you probably already know this, but the instrument rhythm in this kiai is different than in your previous kiai, so the rhythm patterns you use here should change as well. I would recommend you add clickable objects at 02:37:533 - 02:38:177 - 02:38:435 - 02:39:594 - etc... You're right about the bell tone being different, but that doesn't mean I'm going to change anything in this kiai. The drums are the same, and that's what I'm mapping to. The only thing that's different is the bell change at 02:52:601 and the rhythm at 02:56:208 (1,2,3,4) . Btw, thanks for pointing this out to me lol. 02:56:208 (1,2,3,4) is the same as 03:04:450 (1,2,3) so I'll do my best to change it.
03:26:987 (3,4,5) - DS Fixed

[Hard]
Hitsound placement feels inconsistent throughout the map, especially the clap usage I'll look, but not guaranteeing any changes.
00:02:991 (2) - I think it sounds better to extend to 00:03:377 - same thing with all the other similar sliders Then I won't be able to hit beats like 00:03:249 where the vocals are still going on. I know that'll leave other beats like 00:03:377 empty, but to me, it feels fine.
00:59:785 (1) - rotate this or something to avoid overlap Fixed
01:05:323 - add a note here? Adding a note there to turn this into a mini stream seems like too much, and I'd rather leave it.
01:33:785 (2,3) - suggestion to follow song better http://puu.sh/n6XZ2/d69a393990.jpg Good idea, but I don't have much room, and I'd rather not leave any space. Plus, if I change that area, I'd have to change 01:38:421 (4) too, and I'd rather not.
02:01:345 (5,1) - ctrl+g rhythm 02:00:829 (4,5) - These two follow the vocals, I don't see any reason to change this.
02:23:624 (1,2) - same comment as insane Fixed
[Easy]
01:43:057 (1,1) - not enough recovery time after spinner Deleted the spinner and added a break instead.
01:54:391 (2) - curve the slider tail the other way so it flows into (3) better Fixed
02:32:511 (1,1) - same spinner comment Made this spinner a little shorter.
03:05:480 (1,2) - fix flow break Fixed

Last edited by Easy 2016-02-14T02:58:05+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-02-14T02:41:26+00:00

MokouSmoke wrote:
from #modreqs
[Normal]
00:55:664 - make this clickable pls. same with 01:03:906 - Done, split into a stack
01:15:755 (4) - are 1/4 repeat sliders allowed for normal? Might be hard to read for new players Explained in previous mod, I think these should be readable enough
01:53:875 (2,1) - why 1.3x spacing here when 01:45:633 (2,3) - is 1.0x Fixed the first spacing
03:27:631 (3) - 1/2 slider matches lower song intensity imo. 1/4 repeat slider matches reverb vocal sound though

Arphimigon wrote:
[Normal]
00:22:180 (3,2) - If you put on stacking, you see that slider 3 is pushed up towards 00:21:408 (2) - making inconsistent spacing, and also 00:23:210 (2) - is very unneatly stacked in a way normal players would likely not want. Played around with stack leniency here and fixed the positioning, should be fine now
00:54:634 (2,3) - Man this would feel so much better as two 1/2 sliders and a note Changed differently with the previous mod, I feel 00:55:407 (3,1) - both warrant a clickable object here
01:31:466 (2) - This doesnt need to be here at all! It just makes 01:31:724 - this sound weird Was following the synthy sound but fair enough, went for a simpler 1/2 slider instead

Thanks for the mods guys! (:

@Lolipop - MokouSmoke was suggesting we add a silent sliderslide hitsound - use this (should be a blank, 0ms 44byte .wav file, just copy one of those for each sampleset, e.g. soft-sliderslide1.wav, etc.)

Normal

osu file format v14

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Title:Mine (Nightcore Mix)
TitleUnicode:Mine (Nightcore Mix)
Artist:Phoebe Ryan
ArtistUnicode:Phoebe Ryan
Creator:Lolipop
Version:Hyperion's Normal
Source:
Tags:Electronic Melodic Dubstep JBHyperion
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Easy

109 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Easy 2016-02-14T03:40:57+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
[Easy]
00:18:574 - I'd really try adding in some notes before here, as of now, OD and accuracy are completely useless (and this IS a rhythm game so ye)
yknow what take that for the whole diff Fixed
01:03:907 (1,2) - These curves don't really flow well into each other, there are more cases like this at times like: 01:39:967 (2,3) - Fixed

[Normal]
00:22:180 (3,2) - If you put on stacking, you see that slider 3 is pushed up towards 00:21:408 (2) - making inconsistent spacing, and also 00:23:210 (2) - is very unneatly stacked in a way normal players would likely not want.
00:54:634 (2,3) - Man this would feel so much better as two 1/2 sliders and a note
01:31:466 (2) - This doesnt need to be here at all! It just makes 01:31:724 - this sound weird

See Hyperion's post

[Hard]
00:18:059 - I'd make this clickable as it is a vocal, like 00:18:316 (2,3) - Fixed
01:25:929 (1) - This is really weird because all the last vocals skipped the first blue tick, making hitting this unexpected so early, and likely causing a slider break. But putting this on 01:26:057 instead would be way too late.
01:46:921 (4) - No need for slider here yo Fixed
03:09:601 - Pretty nice if i could tap this, perhaps remove the slider and add two circles, or shorten the slider. Nice idea. I fixed it

[Light Insane]
The rhythms an use of 1/4 sliders on this are overmapped. Consider stuff like 00:32:226 (1,2,3) - which dont need 1/4 slider pressure. If anything, it ruins the smooth feel of the vocals. I'd look over the difficulty as a whole for things like this.
Also if you dont change them, consider reducing the volume for all slider ends in those cases. I won't change these, but I will look over the map, and change the volume of some sliders. If anyone needs a reason for me not removing this, it's because I think slider patterns like the one you mentioned are fun. If most people think they're stressful, and no one enjoys them at all, then maybe it'd change it, but imo, it's fine, and I'm going to leave it fine rhythm wise.
00:11:234 (4,5,1) - Misleading spacing Lowered spacing between 00:11:234 (4,5) to 2.00 and left 00:11:877 (1) with 1.1 spacing so it's easier to read.
01:07:770 - No point skippin this sound, you may not like 4 notes in a row, but if so then making the end sound less emphasised isn't the best choice. Either make it 4 notes, or make it a double with a reverse slider at the end. Both feel much better in play!
01:18:330 - Rip strong sound and downbeat Fixed
02:01:603 (3,4) - Don't stack this strong sound! Spacing = Emphasis, so stacking this adds none! Moved 02:02:117 (4) on to 02:02:632 (1)
02:35:988 - And now you miss the 1/4 ;-; Fixed

quick mod gl

I've also included the silent slider sound Hyperion provided.

Thanks for the mods

MokouSmoke

495 posts

Joined May 2013

MokouSmoke 2016-02-14T03:47:59+00:00

Just here for clarification. No kudos

JBHyperion wrote:
@Lolipop - MokouSmoke was suggesting we add a silent sliderslide hitsound - use this (should be a blank, 0ms 44byte .wav file, just copy one of those for each sampleset, e.g. soft-sliderslide1.wav, etc.)

Yes this is what I meant.

Lolipop wrote:
[*]01:32:755 (1,2,3) - yeah, having two large 1/4 gaps in a row is not good for a light insane diff *cough* are you saying this entire kiai section is wrong?

I meant this will be more difficult than your other 1/4 rhythms. Here, you go from slider end to note to slider head, so that's two big 1/4 jumps in a row that players have to aim accurately on which is hard. Your other 1/4 patterns are fine since they are just slider tail to slider head, so that's only one 1/4 jump with the added ease of slider leniency which makes aiming easier. I would recommend grouping 01:33:141 (2,3) - into one slider so it's similar to the rest of your patterns, but whether you want to change it is up to you.

Easy

109 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Easy 2016-02-14T17:13:11+00:00

Lolipop wrote:
[*]01:32:755 (1,2,3) - yeah, having two large 1/4 gaps in a row is not good for a light insane diff *cough* are you saying this entire kiai section is wrong?

Lowered the ds between them to 2.00 so it isn't as harsh. If anyone else makes a comment about that, then I'll consider putting a different pattern down and deleting that one.

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2016-02-15T14:31:05+00:00

Hi

[Insane]

Rhythmic Inconsistencies

00:04:150 (1,2) - Probably should stick to slider circle because the white tick isnt being clicked right now which is unintuitive and breaks the flow
00:07:112 (3,4,5) - Maybe stick to the earlier circle -> double pattern because this doesnt seem special enough for a different pattern, i mean its the same vocal repeated again so no need for beat variation
01:11:634 (4,5) - Shouldnt do this because its very confusing to interpret the next combo after this , maybe turn 5 into 2 circles
01:19:618 (1,2,3) - This is kind of a bad move rhythm wise because you're clicking the weak beats instead of the strong ones, ideal rhythm would be 2
circles->1/4 slider->circle
02:10:875 - Dude this part is 1/3 lol , this is sort of unrankable
02:44:230 - Should fill in this gap because you've done that in the previous kiai

New Combo Inconsistencies

Mostly I found they were quite random in places and I'll try and cover all of them
00:11:877 (1) - snare doesnt justify an NC imo Put NC on 00:12:392 (2) - this
00:13:294 (1) - Remove
00:15:741 (1) - Remove
00:28:877 (5) - Add
00:30:423 (1) - Remove
00:30:937 (2) - Add
00:32:226 (1) - Remove
By now I think you'll get a general idea where to NC and where not to,usually for basic songs you should stick to NC'ing on the downbeat

Spacing Inconsistencies

00:26:817 (1,2) - Misleading because this is a slow part so people wont expect a 3/4 slider into circle , also it conflicts with 00:28:105 (3,4,5) - this spacing

I feel like the non-kiai needs more work but the kiai is fun to play on dt

[Normal]

mod my map hyperion xd
01:28:118 (4,1) - Inconsistent blanket spacing 01:26:573 (1,2)
01:30:694 (1,2) - Should do 3/4 slider->1/2 slider for rhythm consistency imo,this kinda plays weird because youre clicking the weak beat and only hearing the strong beat on the sliderend
02:15:769 (1) - Unnecessary NC
02:55:692 (2) - Remove whistle from blue tick and red tick for consistency

Good luck with this set!

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-02-15T23:32:33+00:00

Rohit6 wrote:
[Normal]

mod my map hyperion xd aiee need to clear mah requests ;_;
01:28:118 (4,1) - Inconsistent blanket spacing 01:26:573 (1,2) Good spot, think I made it more balanced
01:30:694 (1,2) - Should do 3/4 slider->1/2 slider for rhythm consistency imo,this kinda plays weird because youre clicking the weak beat and only hearing the strong beat on the sliderend If I do this I'd have to change like every 1/1 slider in the map, so whilst I agree this would play more closely to the rhythm, considering the difficulty it's a corner I'm willing to cut by using the 3/4+1/2 pattern sparingly
02:15:769 (1) - Unnecessary NC Removed
02:55:692 (2) - Remove whistle from blue tick and red tick for consistency Done

Good luck with this set!

Thanks for the mod!

Normal

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