MAKE THE BPM 116.00, so it fixes
Also Fix the timing points
Also Fix the timing points
I already tried 116 bpm, but the current bpm for the song was figured out with a bpm analyzer, I double checked it, and it works fine.Kyozoru wrote:
MAKE THE BPM 116.00, so it fixes
Also Fix the timing points
Light Insaneouranhshc wrote:
Light Insane
00:09:817 (5,6) - seems odd because you don't use this rhythm in the earlier part of the intro. 00:09:817 (5,1) - The spacing here doesn't really help the issue.
00:10:332 (1,2,3) - how come the spacing change when compared to 00:05:052 (2,3) -
00:13:938 (1,2,3) - spacing. how come (2) is so close to (1)
00:17:802 (2,3,4,5) - odd decrease in spacing, also why is the distance from (1) to (2) so large D:
01:17:043 (1,2) - if you wanted this to have a new combo, then 01:18:073 (4,4) - should also be new combos; however I suggest removing the new combo on 01:17:043 (1) -
00:36:089 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - should probably be 1/3 snapped. Same goes for 00:44:332 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - , 02:02:633 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - , 02:10:875 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - If you make this change, i'd suggest changing the sliders that you use right after those sections so that its not confusing. Also apply the changes to the Hard diff~
01:20:391 (3) - new combo?
01:34:171 (2) - looking at how you mapped the chorus, it would probably be best to make the spacing like you did for the other parts of the chorus. For example, 01:33:141 (2) -
01:43:058 (1,2) - I think this slider+circle combination might work better for the transition from the larger spaced kiai/chorus to the non-kiai/chorus
01:43:830 (3,4,5) - maybe this rhythm
02:07:269 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
02:17:314 (1) - interesting new combo
03:26:343 (1,2,3,4) - the spacing change here is a little unnecessary
Overall for this diff, the spacing in kiai areas was fine apart from what was mention above. In the non-kiai areas, the spacing to be more consistent. I'm not saying that every circle should have 1.0x Distance snap between it, but how you space your 1/4 sliders and 1/4 circle + slider should be consistent.
Hard
00:04:150 (4) - new combo here and remove the new combo 00:05:695 (1) - and then add a new combo 00:06:211 (2) - ?. Then add a new combo 00:08:271 (3) -
01:03:391 (3,4,1) - Probably could rearrange this so the the start of (1) isn't overlapping (3)
Normal
Looks fine
Easy
The slider shapes could look better. Other than that, its fine
I didn't add a finish at one part, but overall, this helped me a little bit.Chibi Maruko wrote:
Hai! From Modding Queue
3 mins are to hard for me. So, I can mod 1 diff only
Light Insane
- 00:04:150 (6) - NC
00:14:453 (3) - ^
00:51:544 (1) - Add Finish
00:55:664 (4) - ^
00:59:785 (5) - NC
01:23:997 (1,2,3,4,5) - The style stream/singletap doesn't look nice. How about this 01:45:118 (4) - NC
02:00:572 - Add note
02:52:344 - ^
Fixed all the things you mentioned for easy, and hard. However, I didn't change one thing in the Light Insane difficulty, and here's why.Akitoshi wrote:
sry I'm late
[Easy][Hyperion's Normal]
- It's just some random suggestion but yee try move your break to 00:19:862 - where the vocals will start, you can emphasize le echo of instrument there
- 00:38:150 (4) - how about adding le curve thingy on the tail? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517289
- 01:48:209 (4) - use simple slider to make it looks more smooth (and can avoid le out of area) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517304
- 02:33:541 (4) - decrease curve angle to make it more smooth circular-looking? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517311
- 02:54:147 (1) - NC for???? Maybe delete NC here
- 02:57:238 (4) - add NC here
- 02:58:268 (1) - then remove NC here
[Hard]
- 00:46:392 (3) - it fits if slidertail looks to le right
- 02:11:905 (1) - and 02:12:935 (3) - uhm, looks pretty forced to slide here imo, try this as 02:11:905 (1,2,3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517339
[Light Insane]
- AR=7
- 00:11:877 (5) - Make it further, they will see this as same beat pattern with 00:11:233 (3,4) -
- 00:31:453 (3) - you can stack it into 00:30:422 (1) - and make a blanket with 00:30:937 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517355
- 01:25:929 (1) - how about this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517368
- 01:45:118 (4) - NC or same distance with 01:44:345 (1,2,3) - regardless of the impact of le song
yeee that's all for me, call me if u needed again I support you /o/
- AR=8
- 00:11:878 (6) - idk maybe NC it since SV reduced
- 00:15:741 (1) - remove NC here and
- 00:16:514 (3) - Add NC here and
- 00:17:416 (1) - remove NC here and
- 00:18:575 (5) - add NC here for well-balanced colorszxzxzxzx
- 00:44:332 (1,2) - idk you can use 1/3 beat snap to map le vocals imo
- 00:56:695 (1,2,3) - uhmm, how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517517
- 01:04:937 (1,2,3,4) - similar with ^
- 01:11:505 (4,5) - better if you did same as 01:07:384 (4,5,6) - imo
- 01:15:626 (1,2) - same with ^ so you can put NC on 01:16:270 (3) - as well
- 01:24:512 (5) - delete? your hard diff was no note here
- 02:10:875 (2,3) - this shape won't fit in the music imo, maybe make them more simple like 02:12:936 (1) - and 02:09:844 (4) -
- 02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) - this will be questionable if you don't stream on 02:22:208 (3) - since they have same beat imo
- 02:36:117 (4) - NC for emphasizing le pre-chorus
- 02:52:602 (2) - uhmm, maybe map there how you mapped on 02:36:117 - . you obviously skipped 02:52:730 - and 02:52:859 - with this slider lol
- 03:27:373 - 03:27:888 - 03:28:017 - Add note here for a a a a a a a (don't be scared to put many notes it's already insane ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Akitoshi wrote:
sry I'm late
[Hyperion's Normal]
- 00:46:392 (3) - it fits if slidertail looks to le right I don't really feel this would improve the flow since the bend on (3) is so small, and it won't look as nice so I'll keep the current pattern
- 02:11:905 (1) - and 02:12:935 (3) - uhm, looks pretty forced to slide here imo, try this as 02:11:905 (1,2,3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4517339 Curved this a bit less, should look nicer now
Thanks for the mods guys! (:Side wrote:
[Hyperion's thing]
Cmon aren't you like a drummer or something? :^) I don't normal map this kind of music so not surprised it needs some work aye
also you owe me a mod js >:v (still don't need it yet so no worries) Yeah yeah I know, my memory isn't that bad xD
Consider AR5. It's still a pretty baby normal with low bpm so high AR isn't needed. Especially cuz the other diffs should also reduce them imo. Swore I did this before but yeah, done
00:33:771 (2) - Change from clap to custom whistle. Done
00:49:482 (1) - Missing clap on tail Fixed
02:03:147 (3) - Add clap to only the head. Currently it's added to the whole slider. Good spot, fixed
02:44:874 (1) - Shame you used the low sound as a whistle addition. Could've worked better as a drum-hitnormal but meh. Add a whistle to the head to get that custom hitsound sound here. Might also wanna consider removing the custom whistles from 02:44:359 (4) - maybe use default for those instead at least. This one is more of a suggestion I suppose since you do that later on as well so up to you. I really like the current hs pattern actually; though I agree drum normals could fit here, I feel it's a little inconsistent with my other hitsound choices. As for default normal whistle, well let's just say I'd rather not trigger myself every time I test, play, edit or watch this map, because I freaking hate that thing (^:
02:53:631 (2) - Missing clap on head Fixed
03:01:359 (1) - ^ on slider end Fixed
03:19:904 (1) - ^ And this one
Damn those customs blend into the song it was harder to hear those missing ones :v Gonna try bumping the volume up to bring some more of that sexy drum emphasis <3
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You can find what I fixed and disagreed with inside the spoiler box.Side wrote:
Hi here's a thing :vSPOILER[Easy]
Should highly consider lowering AR to 2, OD to 2 and HP to 1 or 2. This is a 1* easy so these settings would compliment that better. Keeping AR 3, changed to OD 2, and changed to HP 2, but I may consider keeping it at HP 3 later on.
So you use a LOT of 1/1 sliders. A lot...It's fine but that's pretty boring. This is also gonna be pretty tiring because players will be clicking and releasing a lot. Consider a bit of variety such as using 2/1 sliders, replacing some 1/1 sliders with two 1/1 notes, and adding repeats to some 1/1 sliders. fixed
For example 00:37:120 (3,4) - Could be a 2/1 slider and a note since the slider would start on when she says pieces and the strong drum beat and end where she says "heart" which is also a strong beat then a clickable note on whatever she says at 00:38:665 - would look like this maybe (rough example. Also moved (1) slightly up for spacing consistency. fixed
00:45:362 (3,4) - Here for example you could have a slider repeat on (3) since she sings this part a bit tied together (a bit hard to explain this). More importantly this plays like a 2/1 slider which gives new players a bit of a small clicking break. Here's an example screenshot but not the best example just to show you what I mean. fixed
01:20:391 (1,2) - Instead of these 1/2 notes starting the spinner here would work better since it would make the spinner longer so gives more time for players to pass the spin. fixed
01:30:694 (1,2,3) - These would work better as 1/1 instead of 3/2. For the most part you'd wanna avoid red ticks for easies unless it can be justified. Here for example these sliders sacrifice strong beats on the white ticks to follow the synth thing which is probably not the best thing to follow for this difficulty. Maybe for the later ones but you'd wanna keep it simple for these. fixed
01:38:937 (1,2,3,4) - Follow-up point you didn't do that 3/2 thing here so you'd wanna keep that consistent for newer players to follow. Removed the 3/2 pattern.
01:42:027 (4) - Oh and back to the point about variety this for example could work as two notes instead of another 1/1 slider. Would also be easy to play since it's followed by a spinner. fixed
01:51:300 (3,4) - Here's another example of a possible 2/1 slider with note since vocals are quiet at 01:51:815 - (sure drum plays but it's more about the player resting than it is about following every drum beat) fixed
01:55:421 (3,4) - Another thing that could be done for variety using 3/2 slider with repeats for example here at 01:56:193 - she says "be" from supposed to be so it could be a good way to have a repeat. Of course these things do mean changing some patterns around but trust me when I say it will be worth it. fixed
01:59:542 (3,4) - Also another pottential 1/2 slider with a repeat since "skin of my teeth" is tied together with how she sings it (again hard to explain that lol) so a repeat would make sense. This one is also pretty easy to change cuz it would look like this fixed
02:32:511 (3,4,1,2) - Here it might be a nice place to have a spinner starting at 02:32:511 - and ending at 02:34:571 - then deleting 1 and 2 so it acts as a break. It's a nice pause effect leading into the kiai. You can probably even leave the note at 02:36:117 - cos the bpm is pretty low so it doesn't show up during the spin and it acts as a nice note leading into the downbeat at 02:36:632 (1) - fixed. nice idea
02:40:753 (1,2) - Here for example could also be another 2/1 slider and note. fixed
02:43:844 (4) - And this maybe two notes instead of a 1/1 slider as well fixed
02:59:299 (2,3) - Similar to the point at 01:30:694 (1,2,3) this could be avoided for easier playability and maybe instead changed to a 2/1 slider and note or maybe (2) to become a 1/1 slider and then maybe (3) becomes two notes idk variety and stuffs u know fixed
03:07:541 (3,4,5) - Same as above. Or this could also be a spinner instead since it leads into a small break. fixed
03:24:025 (1,2) - This could be cute as a long slider as in a slider starting at 03:24:025 - and ending at 03:25:570 - maybe with a heart shape or something u know. I put a shape at the end, but I couldn't make a heart. I'll keep trying
[Hyperion's thing]
Cmon aren't you like a drummer or something? :^) also you owe me a mod js >:v (still don't need it yet so no worries)
Consider AR5. It's still a pretty baby normal with low bpm so high AR isn't needed. Especially cuz the other diffs should also reduce them imo.
00:33:771 (2) - Change from clap to custom whistle.
00:49:482 (1) - Missing clap on tail
02:03:147 (3) - Add clap to only the head. Currently it's added to the whole slider.
02:44:874 (1) - Shame you used the low sound as a whistle addition. Could've worked better as a drum-hitnormal but meh. Add a whistle to the head to get that custom hitsound sound here. Might also wanna consider removing the custom whistles from 02:44:359 (4) - maybe use default for those instead at least. This one is more of a suggestion I suppose since you do that later on as well so up to you.
02:53:631 (2) - Missing clap on head
03:01:359 (1) - ^ on slider end
03:19:904 (1) - ^
Damn those customs blend into the song it was harder to hear those missing ones :v
Fixed as needed
[Hard]
Use AR7 better. Low BPM and song is pretty easy to need anything higher. Fixed
00:11:620 (4) - Might wanna space this out more so it doesn't read like a triple. Maybe just like this. Fixed
00:18:316 (2) - This would play really well as two notes so you emphasize 00:18:574 - as a clickable object. Could even add a bit more distance to that note for emphasis if you want. Fixed
00:36:089 - 00:40:210 - Four seconds of 3/4 sliders is pretty boring even for a hard. Might wanna mix it up a bit. 00:38:665 (2) - Maybe change this to two 1/2 notes or something idk. Same for 00:39:180 (3) - This suggestion goes for the other parts where you do this like 00:39:180 (3) - 02:02:632 (1) - etc.
This flow section is to emphasize the vocals. I won't change it to something different because it would go against how I want the map to be, and imo, I think this part is perfect the way it is.
01:59:542 (2,3) - Since 02:00:572 - is pretty quiet in the music you could instead delete (3) and reduce the repeats on (2) by one then add a note at 02:00:314 - so it plays pretty well and adds a nice pause effect. Could look something like this Fixed. Nice idea
02:34:571 (3) - Could probably look a bit shapelier if you play around with it like this or better still this was just a quick thing ;v I changed the shape a little bit.
03:26:343 - I feel spinner could start here instead and end at 03:28:146 - leaving the other part to the outro. Feels pretty empty atm. This also applies for the other diffs. It does feel empty, but I think pause right there in some difficulties is fine. If I get any ideas of what to do here in later mods as well, I'll consider changing it.
[Light Insane]
Raise OD to 7. OD6 is baby od for a light insane :v Fixed
00:05:052 (3,4) - So a rhythm option you don't seem to like is using a 1/1 slider and then a note like this but it's so cool and deals with any polarity concerns as well. Consider adding more of these like 00:11:234 (4,5) - needs more and more and more :v Not changing this because these 2 sliders already follow the vocals fine. Also, you're right. I don't like 1/1 sliders that much unless they fit somewhere and I can't do anything else with a section of a map
00:26:817 (1,2) - So an issue with this is the spacing is the same from (1) to (2) as it is between 00:28:105 (3,4) - except the first is 1/4 and this is 1/2. Doesn't read all that well. Harder to distinct them and since the map switches rhythm patterns constantly it's hard to keep up with. Consistency with these things is pretty important for readability. Can't really suggest something for these parts (there are more later on etc) so look out for them and consider reworking them to something that reads a bit better. Replaced 00:26:817 (1,2) with a 1/1 slider.
00:36:089 - NOOOo don't do this again for this diff There are SO many more things you can do besides this. It's pretty boring but there's a lot going on with the drums and other ways to bring out the vocals aside from 3/4 slider spam. Still not changing. I'll say it again.. this follows the vocals, and changing it would go against the point of having a flow section there.
For example 00:44:332 (1,2) - could be a note then triplet and note like this, or 00:46:392 (8,1) - could be three 1/2 notes etc. LOTS of possibilities. Switch it up a bit for this like you do in the rest of the map. I feel like this would be overmapping since the melodic rhythm in the back is very mellow, and it doesn't follow much, therefore, I won't be changing this.
00:51:544 (1) - Remove finish and put it back on but only on the slider head (double click the slider head so it highlights red in the timeline like this so the finish is only on the head and not the whole slider. Thanks for pointing this out. It's been fixed
01:50:527 (1) - 1/4 slider again after 01:49:497 (4,5,6) - is a bit too much. Change to just a note. I've played my map multiple times, and this part, or the general style of the parts between kiais, is perfectly fine. If I change it to just a note, it would feel empty compared to how it was before. So, not changing this either.
01:54:648 (2) - Same as above. No need to do this for added difficulty since it doesn't really add much to the song. Some people might call that overmapping (it's not necessarily since it's not an active object) but still better avoid this. I don't think I'm overmapping, and I'm not doing it to make the map really hard. I think this style works fine, and I like it tbh.
02:02:632 (1) - And again for this section do something else Following the vocals again, and I want this to be a flow section, so not changing.
02:36:117 (4) - Could have started at 02:35:988 - and added one more repeat to follow the vocals. Feels like it's too much, so I'm keeping it the way it is.
Overall it's not bad. The spread is heading in the right direction. You should tell hyperion to hitsound your diffs for you cuz they are VERY inconsistent and lots are missing. I asked, and I don't think he'd mind doing it, but I like how light my difficulties feel, and I don't really want to use the same loud hitsounds he's using. I'd like to hitsound my maps the way I want to. I could've suggested some but too much work not enough time and it might just need to be fully redone so it's consistent. This map doesn't need redone. I'll take mods for it, and fix things that need to be fixed, but I'm not redoing it for the sake of making it more consistent so it fits the ranking system just right, and no one complains. The light insane could use a bit more variety and consistency with spacing also there was a lot of triple rhythm like 01:53:103 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - that could've been avoided as it doesn't add much to the song. That's the style of the map. I wanted to make something different, so this is what happened, and I don't think it needs changed. Lots of potential to make a nice light insane without the need to add rhythm or 3/4 slider spam x_x [color=#4040FF][b]lol. Again, it's part of the map, it follows the vocals fine, it flows really well, and won't change it. Sorry you don't like it.
Hope this helps. Good luck
Janpai wrote:
M4M via PM General
- Uncheck Widescreen Support because there is no storyboard Fixed
Easy
- Check AiMod for DS issues Fixed, but there may be one left that I can't fix no matter how I place it. Maybe a bug.. idk
- 00:32:998 (3,1) - Fix blanket Fixed
- 00:36:089 (2) - I don't think this slider art fits with the music
you can make it just a simple one Fixed- 00:44:332 (2) - ^ Fixed
- 01:10:087 (3,4) - To be more fitting with the music, make this
01:10:087 (3) a circle then move 01:11:118 (4) on the white near the
circle Fixed- 02:06:754 (2) - slider art problems Fixed
- 02:59:299 (3) - Can't really find out or hear anything followed by
this beat maybe make it a 1/1 slider instead Fixed- Just a comment here, the diff is so full of 1/1 beats, you can
make variations of patterns, it's like your mapping the metronome and
doesn't have enough objects to emphasize some vocals I'll look over the map later to see if I can change it up at all. The reason I'm placing so many 1/1 sliders is because I wanted an easy difficulty, but I needed to stay under Hyperion's Normal map. Also, I'm taking advantage of making shapes that cover some beats like what a reverse slider would do, but tbh, I'll go back and see if I can change a few of them.Hyperion's Normal
- DS consistency is also a must for normals, there are some .8x and
1.3x on objects?- 00:57:210 (3) - I think 1/4 beats are unusual for normals? even
though the BPM is slow- 03:17:070 (2,3) - stack them properly
- This diff looks like a hard but the star rating is low because of
the BPM
Will update when Hyperion decides to look at this mod.HardI'm pretty lazy to mod the light insane just gonna give you a star no
- 00:02:991 (2) - Mapping on blue ticks must avoid unless it's
necessary but I think there variations here (I just can't see any for
now) Sliders like this follow the vocals, and I don't see that there's a need to change them. I know that I shouldn't map on blue ticks much, but this is an exception.- 00:27:847 (1) - The lyric starts here 00:28:104 not on 00:27:847 Fixed
- 00:36:089 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Don't you think this pattern is so
dense even though it follows the lyrics somehow I still don't think there's a problem with this pattern. I might pm u in game later about this, but I don't want to change it.- 01:05:452 (3,4) - This one is dense too Fixed
- 01:26:573
(2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,
1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - patterns are dense and too much compressed If you're talking about the flow of sliders in the kiai, I don't want to change it, but if I can think of something better, I will.- The other kiai time was dense too ^
kds if not helped :3 Thanks
Thanks for the mod! Cleaned up a few spacings and slider shapes myself.Janpai wrote:
M4M via PM Hyperion's Normal
- DS consistency is also a must for normals, there are some .8x and
1.3x on objects? There is no rule in the Ranking Criteria suggesting that DS must be the same in Normal diffs - the reason for the discrepancy is because of patterns like 00:23:210 (2,3) and 02:34:571 (1,1) with larger spacings between them. 1.3x DS here would put these objects a singificant distance apart, and the player may be unable to react to them. In this way, I am helping ease the player into the map rather than throwing large spacings out right from the start. This should not be confusing to a beginner as it is done consistently throughout the map- 00:57:210 (3) - I think 1/4 beats are unusual for normals? even
though the BPM is slow Unusual, maybe. Disallowed? I think they should be okay, it's clearly indicated as a repeat slider since the repeat is visible and there's only one approach circle to follow- 03:17:070 (2,3) - stack them properly They are already stacked properly
- This diff looks like a hard but the star rating is low because of
the BPM No jumps, majority slider usage, slow SV, low note density... This is 100% a Normal diff ^^
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Updated! ThanksJBHyperion wrote:
Thanks for the mod! Cleaned up a few spacings and slider shapes myself.Janpai wrote:
M4M via PM Hyperion's Normal
- DS consistency is also a must for normals, there are some .8x and
1.3x on objects? There is no rule in the Ranking Criteria suggesting that DS must be the same in Normal diffs - the reason for the discrepancy is because of patterns like 00:23:210 (2,3) and 02:34:571 (1,1) with larger spacings between them. 1.3x DS here would put these objects a singificant distance apart, and the player may be unable to react to them. In this way, I am helping ease the player into the map rather than throwing large spacings out right from the start. This should not be confusing to a beginner as it is done consistently throughout the map- 00:57:210 (3) - I think 1/4 beats are unusual for normals? even
though the BPM is slow Unusual, maybe. Disallowed? I think they should be okay, it's clearly indicated as a repeat slider since the repeat is visible and there's only one approach circle to follow- 03:17:070 (2,3) - stack them properly They are already stacked properly
- This diff looks like a hard but the star rating is low because of
the BPM No jumps, majority slider usage, slow SV, low note density... This is 100% a Normal diff ^^Normalosu file format v14
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MokouSmoke wrote:
from #modreqs
[General][light insane]
- consider muting sliderslide.wav. it sounds pretty noisy There's no file in this beatmap called sliderslide.wav . You sure it's not just your skin?
[Easy]
- I think at the beginning of the song, it's always nice to establish a little bit of consistency so players can get used to the rhythm of the song. That means stacking at 00:04:151 (1,2) - and 00:05:052 (3,4,5) - should be the same rhythm as 00:02:992 (3,4,5) - . In particular, I don't agree with the rhythm at 00:05:052 (3,4) - since it gives 00:05:180 - and 00:05:438 - equal emphasis, when the song clearly has a stronger beat at 00:05:438 - Fixed
- 00:11:234 (4,5,1) - flow is bad since players have to curve away from the slider body to hit (5) http://puu.sh/n6Rgk/f4567cd5a6.jpg recommend you move (5) to [~256, ~180] Spread out this area to make it flow better.
- 00:11:878 (1) - I'd remove this SV change. There's really nothing in the song that suggests it and you don't make use of a slider+SV change at 00:15:999 (2) - which sounds identical in the song Removed the SV change. Feels different, but makes sense.
- 00:13:938 (3,4,1) - prefer DS here but ok Nothing's wrong with this, and I don't plan to change it.
- 00:36:089 (1) - this gets pretty boring if you use it 10x in a row. I think you could mix in some rhythms like this to make it more interesting http://puu.sh/n6RPr/385127977a.jpg I took your advise and added a some things to make it more interesting.
- 01:06:611 (2,3) - I don't hear anything in the music at 01:06:611 - or 01:06:868 - so following strings is better here with this rhythm 01:06:868 - http://puu.sh/n6SeN/ed706323fb.jpg Fixed
- 01:07:384 (4,5,6) - you've been following vocals, and this does a poor job at that since it places the emphasis on 01:07:641 - when the strong beat is at 01:07:512 - . suggest 01:07:513 (5,6) - ctrl+g to fix Fixed
- 01:11:118 (3) - missing clap? Fixed
- 01:15:240 (6) - I know you're following vocals, but it's pretty intense here so why not follow drums when the vocals aren't there? http://puu.sh/n6SWI/8be920f9f1.jpg I'd rather keep the intensity here, and I don't see why I need to change it.
- 01:18:073 (1) - generally downbeats are stronger beats, and I don't think this one is an exception. Would break this into two notes so the downbeat can get proper emphasis Fixed
- 01:19:618 - I would add a note here for better transition from 1/2 rhythm to vocals Fixed
- 01:32:755 (1,2,3) - yeah, having two large 1/4 gaps in a row is not good for a light insane diff *cough* are you saying this entire kiai section is wrong?
- 01:43:443 - this should be clickable imo to represent the instrument. http://puu.sh/n6TCW/bd950c36a6.jpg or http://puu.sh/n6TGb/38bf78ffad.jpg to avoid the awkward 3/4 gap as well Fixed. Great idea
- 01:46:921 (1) - ok I haven't really been commenting about NCs since you've been using those to follow vocals but I think NC should be at 01:47:178 (2) - . personally, I'm a fan of NCs on downbeats but whatever works I understand your logic, but I'm not changing this to a NC because the current NC feels more natural.
- 01:47:436 (3,4) - prefer triple instead so 01:47:436 - doesn't receive extra emphasis I don't see any problem here. I tried adding a stream or a triple, but it didn't feel right, so I'm keeping this the way it is.
- 01:47:436 (3,4,5) - oh god, fix the spacing. you can't even distinguish the 1/4 and 1/2 spacing. use ~1.6x spacing at 01:47:694 (4,5) - just like you did at 01:49:755 (5,6) - Fixed
- 01:53:360 (3) - so starting here, the melody of the music is basically identical to 01:45:118 (1) - but the NC's between the two sections aren't similar. You should probably fix this so that there's more consistency in your NC patterns. Fixed
- 01:53:618 (4,5,1) - even though you use the same spacings as the example mentioned above, here it's ok since the NC indicates a spacing change, but I'd still prefer if you fixed the spacing How...? What is there to fix in the spacing? I fixed what u mentioned above, but I don't see what else is wrong lol
- 02:09:844 (4) - make this a note and break up the slider train Fixed
- 02:13:966 (3) - ^ No matter what I try, it doesn't feel natural like it does in the beginning, so I'm leaving this alone.
- 02:20:148 (1,2,3,4) - the music here sounds basically identical to 02:18:087 (4,5,1) - so why is note density and spacing higher here? If you're talking about the background plucks, then yes, it's similar, but I'm keeping the vocals in mind, and that seemed like a good area to move around more in. Someone even suggested before putting a 1/1 slider there, but it just didn't feel right.
- 02:23:625 (1,2) - strong vocal is at 02:23:753 - so do this: http://puu.sh/n6V0J/cf6f45cf81.jpg Fixed
- 02:33:155 (5,1,2) - DS pls, no reason why the spacing between 02:33:155 (5,1) - should be so small Fixed
- 02:34:829 (1,2,3) - would prefer if you follow the electronic instrument here since it's the most prevalent http://puu.sh/n6VlL/7798113f44.jpg I slowed down to 25%, listened to it, and noticed that it follows electronic instument, and the vocals fine, so I'm not changing it.
- 02:36:632 (1) - so you probably already know this, but the instrument rhythm in this kiai is different than in your previous kiai, so the rhythm patterns you use here should change as well. I would recommend you add clickable objects at 02:37:533 - 02:38:177 - 02:38:435 - 02:39:594 - etc... You're right about the bell tone being different, but that doesn't mean I'm going to change anything in this kiai. The drums are the same, and that's what I'm mapping to. The only thing that's different is the bell change at 02:52:601 and the rhythm at 02:56:208 (1,2,3,4) . Btw, thanks for pointing this out to me lol. 02:56:208 (1,2,3,4) is the same as 03:04:450 (1,2,3) so I'll do my best to change it.
- 03:26:987 (3,4,5) - DS Fixed
[Hard]
- Hitsound placement feels inconsistent throughout the map, especially the clap usage I'll look, but not guaranteeing any changes.
- 00:02:991 (2) - I think it sounds better to extend to 00:03:377 - same thing with all the other similar sliders Then I won't be able to hit beats like 00:03:249 where the vocals are still going on. I know that'll leave other beats like 00:03:377 empty, but to me, it feels fine.
- 00:59:785 (1) - rotate this or something to avoid overlap Fixed
- 01:05:323 - add a note here? Adding a note there to turn this into a mini stream seems like too much, and I'd rather leave it.
- 01:33:785 (2,3) - suggestion to follow song better http://puu.sh/n6XZ2/d69a393990.jpg Good idea, but I don't have much room, and I'd rather not leave any space. Plus, if I change that area, I'd have to change 01:38:421 (4) too, and I'd rather not.
- 02:01:345 (5,1) - ctrl+g rhythm 02:00:829 (4,5) - These two follow the vocals, I don't see any reason to change this.
- 02:23:624 (1,2) - same comment as insane Fixed
- 01:43:057 (1,1) - not enough recovery time after spinner Deleted the spinner and added a break instead.
- 01:54:391 (2) - curve the slider tail the other way so it flows into (3) better Fixed
02:32:511 (1,1) - same spinner comment Made this spinner a little shorter.- 03:05:480 (1,2) - fix flow break Fixed
MokouSmoke wrote:
from #modreqs
[Normal]
- 00:55:664 - make this clickable pls. same with 01:03:906 - Done, split into a stack
- 01:15:755 (4) - are 1/4 repeat sliders allowed for normal? Might be hard to read for new players Explained in previous mod, I think these should be readable enough
- 01:53:875 (2,1) - why 1.3x spacing here when 01:45:633 (2,3) - is 1.0x Fixed the first spacing
- 03:27:631 (3) - 1/2 slider matches lower song intensity imo. 1/4 repeat slider matches reverb vocal sound though
Thanks for the mods guys! (:Arphimigon wrote:
[Normal]
00:22:180 (3,2) - If you put on stacking, you see that slider 3 is pushed up towards 00:21:408 (2) - making inconsistent spacing, and also 00:23:210 (2) - is very unneatly stacked in a way normal players would likely not want. Played around with stack leniency here and fixed the positioning, should be fine now
00:54:634 (2,3) - Man this would feel so much better as two 1/2 sliders and a note Changed differently with the previous mod, I feel 00:55:407 (3,1) - both warrant a clickable object here
01:31:466 (2) - This doesnt need to be here at all! It just makes 01:31:724 - this sound weird Was following the synthy sound but fair enough, went for a simpler 1/2 slider instead
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I've also included the silent slider sound Hyperion provided.Arphimigon wrote:
[Easy]
00:18:574 - I'd really try adding in some notes before here, as of now, OD and accuracy are completely useless (and this IS a rhythm game so ye)
yknow what take that for the whole diff Fixed
01:03:907 (1,2) - These curves don't really flow well into each other, there are more cases like this at times like: 01:39:967 (2,3) - Fixed
[Normal]
00:22:180 (3,2) - If you put on stacking, you see that slider 3 is pushed up towards 00:21:408 (2) - making inconsistent spacing, and also 00:23:210 (2) - is very unneatly stacked in a way normal players would likely not want.
00:54:634 (2,3) - Man this would feel so much better as two 1/2 sliders and a note
01:31:466 (2) - This doesnt need to be here at all! It just makes 01:31:724 - this sound weird
See Hyperion's post
[Hard]
00:18:059 - I'd make this clickable as it is a vocal, like 00:18:316 (2,3) - Fixed
01:25:929 (1) - This is really weird because all the last vocals skipped the first blue tick, making hitting this unexpected so early, and likely causing a slider break. But putting this on 01:26:057 instead would be way too late.
01:46:921 (4) - No need for slider here yo Fixed
03:09:601 - Pretty nice if i could tap this, perhaps remove the slider and add two circles, or shorten the slider. Nice idea. I fixed it
[Light Insane]
The rhythms an use of 1/4 sliders on this are overmapped. Consider stuff like 00:32:226 (1,2,3) - which dont need 1/4 slider pressure. If anything, it ruins the smooth feel of the vocals. I'd look over the difficulty as a whole for things like this.
Also if you dont change them, consider reducing the volume for all slider ends in those cases. I won't change these, but I will look over the map, and change the volume of some sliders. If anyone needs a reason for me not removing this, it's because I think slider patterns like the one you mentioned are fun. If most people think they're stressful, and no one enjoys them at all, then maybe it'd change it, but imo, it's fine, and I'm going to leave it fine rhythm wise.
00:11:234 (4,5,1) - Misleading spacing Lowered spacing between 00:11:234 (4,5) to 2.00 and left 00:11:877 (1) with 1.1 spacing so it's easier to read.
01:07:770 - No point skippin this sound, you may not like 4 notes in a row, but if so then making the end sound less emphasised isn't the best choice. Either make it 4 notes, or make it a double with a reverse slider at the end. Both feel much better in play!
01:18:330 - Rip strong sound and downbeat Fixed
02:01:603 (3,4) - Don't stack this strong sound! Spacing = Emphasis, so stacking this adds none! Moved 02:02:117 (4) on to 02:02:632 (1)
02:35:988 - And now you miss the 1/4 ;-; Fixed
quick mod gl
Yes this is what I meant.JBHyperion wrote:
@Lolipop - MokouSmoke was suggesting we add a silent sliderslide hitsound - use this (should be a blank, 0ms 44byte .wav file, just copy one of those for each sampleset, e.g. soft-sliderslide1.wav, etc.)
I meant this will be more difficult than your other 1/4 rhythms. Here, you go from slider end to note to slider head, so that's two big 1/4 jumps in a row that players have to aim accurately on which is hard. Your other 1/4 patterns are fine since they are just slider tail to slider head, so that's only one 1/4 jump with the added ease of slider leniency which makes aiming easier. I would recommend grouping 01:33:141 (2,3) - into one slider so it's similar to the rest of your patterns, but whether you want to change it is up to you.Lolipop wrote:
[*]01:32:755 (1,2,3) - yeah, having two large 1/4 gaps in a row is not good for a light insane diff *cough* are you saying this entire kiai section is wrong?
Lowered the ds between them to 2.00 so it isn't as harsh. If anyone else makes a comment about that, then I'll consider putting a different pattern down and deleting that one.Lolipop wrote:
[*]01:32:755 (1,2,3) - yeah, having two large 1/4 gaps in a row is not good for a light insane diff *cough* are you saying this entire kiai section is wrong?
Thanks for the mod!Rohit6 wrote:
[Normal]
mod my map hyperion xd aiee need to clear mah requests ;_;
01:28:118 (4,1) - Inconsistent blanket spacing 01:26:573 (1,2) Good spot, think I made it more balanced
01:30:694 (1,2) - Should do 3/4 slider->1/2 slider for rhythm consistency imo,this kinda plays weird because youre clicking the weak beat and only hearing the strong beat on the sliderend If I do this I'd have to change like every 1/1 slider in the map, so whilst I agree this would play more closely to the rhythm, considering the difficulty it's a corner I'm willing to cut by using the 3/4+1/2 pattern sparingly
02:15:769 (1) - Unnecessary NC Removed
02:55:692 (2) - Remove whistle from blue tick and red tick for consistency Done
Good luck with this set!
osu file format v14
[General]
AudioFilename: Phoebe Ryan - Mine (Illenium Remix) Nightcore.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 85929
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SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.5
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[Metadata]
Title:Mine (Nightcore Mix)
TitleUnicode:Mine (Nightcore Mix)
Artist:Phoebe Ryan
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Creator:Lolipop
Version:Hyperion's Normal
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Tags:Electronic Melodic Dubstep JBHyperion
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