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Seijiro
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Seijiro
Here I am for the maybe fake M4M :3

SPOILER
~ Legend ~

  1. Black = Just a suggestion, feel free to refuse
  2. Blue = Highly recommended suggestion. You need a strong reason to refuse this
  3. Red = Unrankable. You MUST fix this
Please reply with:
  1. Green = Fixed
  2. Red = Didn't fix
  3. Orange = Fixed part of the suggestion

Damn, this is gonna be hard to mod xD
Unfortunately, these are all gonna be just merely personal/aestethics suggestions, that's why I can't give proper reasons for all of them :/ (this goes for all diffs I guess...)

[General]
  1. I guess you don't need the Widescreen support since you don't have any SB (Remove also the .osb file from the folder just to be sure)

[INSANE]

  1. 00:17:837 (5) - Here I was mislead because I thought the pattern was similar to 00:17:462 (3,4) - , yet it wasn't, so maybe you can add a NC just for more readability?
  2. 00:23:462 (3,4,5) -Why not using the previous pattern to keep consistency? (00:16:337 (5,6,7) - ) I did wrong this patr because I thought it was the same as before...
  3. 00:24:587 (6) - I kinda feel bad for this lonely note :/ Can you add a repeat on 00:24:400 (5) - ?
  4. 00:29:650 (1) - I'd remove this one and add a repeat on 00:29:462 (4) - because you can create a better flow like this imo:
    SPOILER
    This was also a suggestion "suggested" to me by your hitsounds.
  5. 00:31:900 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I didn't really get the rhythm here to be honest :( I mean, you have great hitsounds but you don't enphasize them.
    I tried to give more enphasis on your claps
    I also tried to do a similar pattern to the next one in order to keep consistency
  6. 00:33:212 (4,5) - I didn't expect this pattern at all. Why changing from slider to circles in such an uncomfortable place for the player? xD Anyway, another slider will fit better imo :3
  7. 00:33:962 (5) - I really wanted to click both notes here >.<
  8. 00:59:743 (3) - This note is a bit out of place if left alone. I suggested removing this note or adding a note at 00:59:650 - and continuing the stream
  9. 01:00:775 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part gives a zig-zag feeling so I think a pattern like 00:54:400 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - would fit a lot better (obviously, not the same exact pattern, but something similar)
  10. 01:08:650 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - As my personal mapping style I try to avoid cluster in general, so why not changing this pattern (which is a bit difficult to see imo) to :
    SPOILER
    I know this is going to be rejected, but I wanted to try xD
  11. 01:21:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Damn, I love this part >.< It's also damn hard to play tho xD

[Skystar's Expert]
  1. 00:54:775 (1) - Maybe it's just because I'm righty, but I feel like this slider should be the opposite direction (Ctrl + G)
  2. 00:56:275 (3) - I guess it's the same as above... ^
  3. 01:21:025 (1,2) - Here I'd like to suggest a different pattern, since 01:21:025 (1) - gives the same feeling as 01:20:650 (1) - from my rhythmical point of view xD (a lot of weird words put togheter lolololol):
    SPOILER
  4. 01:39:400 (1) - Placing this under the previous slider creates a sudden stop o3o (judging the previous movement and spped you created). Maybe move it from there? Somewhere around 496:284 maybe?

[HW's EX]
  1. 00:12:775 (2) - I'd add a repeat here, since you don't follow any particular rhythm in the song but you just create your own rhythm with patterns. That's where I feel the missing note, not in the music (I hope you get it. If no, just ignore this xD)
  2. 00:41:837 (5) - Seeing all this combo (the blue one) I'd suggest moving this note under (3)'s tale or maybe add a repeat on (4)...
Well...I guess that' all xD The hyper slider velocity is a bit difficult to break down as well as finding a better pattern xD

[fanzhen's Extra]
  1. 00:31:056 (6) - Your hitsounds suggest a stop a here, so maybe stack this note under the previous slider's tale?
  2. 00:32:368 (2,3,4) - Should these notes be the other way? If you Ctrl + G on these ones you'll get a nice effect on this whole pattern: 00:31:900 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
  3. 00:40:525 (5,1) - My question is: There should be a NC on (5) or there shouldn't be a NC on (1)? They are literally the same sound. I'll tell you, this is just my curiosity because I want to undersstand better. I saw that there are a coupple of reasons for your choice and I'd just want to know which one is yours xD
  4. 01:17:181 (2) - Maybe a Ctrl + G ? Sorry I can't give you a reason, just personal preference I guess :3Dumb suggestion, sorry. You use it also at 01:18:681 (2) - and it fits perfectly so I guess it's just the fact I didn't watch it enough in the editor
  5. 01:39:400 (1) - Best break ever :3[/ist]

[Another]
  1. 00:34:150 (1,2,3,4) - It would fit well if you replace these circles with a couple of 1/4 sliders. They will continue the previous pattern and will also introduce the player to the next one. On a second thought, I'd change also 00:34:525 (5,6,7,8) - . Basically you use the pattern you have right now at 00:34:150 (1,2,3,4) - for 00:34:525 (5,6,7,8) - and do what I said on this last one. Hm....maybe a pic will do better for this I guess...
    SPOILER
    This pattern was suggested by hitsounds tbh
  2. 01:01:337 (2) - Why not copying (1) for this? I think that note is necessary...
  3. 01:08:650 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - Well...i already suggested something for this on the INSANE, but I guess it doesn't apply well here. Still, I think this pattern is a bit too cramped :/ (probably the problem is (1) being covered)

[LK's Another]
  1. I played this diff twice and trid to find someting without breaking LK's mapping style, but I wasn't able to find a single thing, sorry :/ (I guess it is a good thing, but I did nothing xD)

[Hyper]
  1. 00:25:900 (1) - I don't know if the Hyper diff is considered a Hard diff or an Insane diff (iirc it's considered a Hard+ or something like that). Anyway, there is a rule that says that you need 1 full beat of rest after every spinner on Hard diffs. If this turns out to be a Hard you have to consider changing something about this :3 I'll leave this to BNs' judgement xD /me runs*
  2. 01:13:993 (1) - Just to put something else on this mod xD Same as above, obviously ^

[fanzhen's Hard]
  1. I'd just increase the OD by 1 People should start learning how to hit properly, don't you agree? :^)

[Irre's Normal]
  1. 00:52:150 (3) - Isn't it a bit too misleading for beginners? @.@
  2. 01:13:900 (1) - You need at least 2 full beats after every spinner on Normal diffs
  3. 01:30:400 (1) - I don't know if silencing both slider slide and slider end is ok, but I can't find that thread right now... (better asking someone with more knowledge on the subject :/)

[Easy]
  1. I guess the only sort of problem is related to spinners, since there are none. But I don't think that's really a problem at all... Top 200 with full mods scores incoming lolololol

Ok, that's all I guess. Just a few other general points :3
First, teach me to map xD jkjk :P
Second, I hope this mod had something useful in it :3

Last thing: (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
tutuhaha
3,059 posts
Joined October 2010
tutuhaha
把widescreen support关掉？

[Easy]
mod easy 就要拿出鸡蛋里挑骨头的气势
总而言之先把00:07:900 (1) - 中间空的那俩的距离调一样吧！
00:27:400 (1,2) - blanket
00:36:400 (1,2,3,4) - 这几个的间距显得太挤了
有些间距差，你懂得...可以自己没事儿的时候调一调
我造是格子问题
但是逼死强迫症啊

[Irre's Normal]
00:36:400 (1,2) - Vertical
00:57:025 (5) - I think is enough to put a circle on here

[fanzhen's Hard]
01:54:400 (1) - 尾巴向作移一点点blanket就好了
以下想法并不排除是我太noob的原因
对我来说这个Hard相较于normal太难了
加上读图的难度可以上到Insane我是这么觉得的
太难了......太难了......好难.........啊为什么这么难..........

[Hyper]
00:06:025 (x) - 前面的空拍是因为真的没有音，而这边我觉得是有音的而且你后面还要跳跳的那个距离看起来和

这个还差不多所以我觉得这边还是加个音吧
00:14:275 (2) - 这里我觉得完全可以ctrl+g嘛
00:16:150 (x) - 这边是有音的
00:16:243 (7) - 这边是没音的
00:18:962 (4,5,6,7) - ^
00:36:400 (1,2) - 这边的音听起来和前面感觉不同所以这里可以稍微用点儿不一样的方式摆(2 ctrl+g?
00:37:525 (6,7) - 分开一点点
01:20:650 (1,2,3,4) - 头修成一条直线
01:48:400 (1,2,3) - 间距统一

[LKS]
00:27:775 (3,1) - 看auto的时候(因为我根本打不了)我对这个是有意见的，看edit的时候这个意见减去了50%左右

.....但是还是觉得有点怪，下面的这类就不说了
00:31:337 (5,6) - 纳尼？............
00:34:243 (x) - 这个音我还是觉得加上比较好
00:45:212 (4) - ctrl+g？
01:02:837 (x) -
01:02:931 (x) - 这俩音我还是觉得加上比较好
01:07:150 (3) - ctrl+g？

[Another]
00:17:275 (3,4,5) - 间距统一
00:19:525 (9,10) - 这俩ctrl+g后的flow我觉得比较好
00:28:993 (x) -
00:29:087 (x) - 这俩音我觉得加上比较好
00:52:337 (x) - 加音，你后面都没空
01:46:525 (5,6) - 钢琴音这么清晰，那么流畅，中间为啥还要空一拍
01:48:400 (1,2,3) - 间距统一

[fanzhen]
00:36:962 (6) - ctrl+g
00:42:775 (2,3) - 00:44:275 (2,3) - 间距统一

[HW]
map里没有添加SC1的静音滑条
所以最开始的时候用SC2?
没太理解这个难度
所以不太好下手摸
一味的高速滑条在我看来并不太适合这个曲子
一张图的张力控制在我来看是比较重要的，然后你这个感觉像是橡皮筋松了........
再加上我个人并不是个很好的player,也不好从player的角度出发去评判这个diff
无从下手不好意思

[Skystar]
00:07:900 (1) - 虽然..大概能懂你为啥这样做但是我觉得是没有起到应有的作用...所以还是别那么小声好不
00:18:587 (2,3) - 这个ctrl+g后的flow我觉得比较好大概就是↘↗这样
00:19:525 (7,8,9) - 个人不太喜欢这样半遮不遮对我来说比较难看
00:39:775 (2) - ctrl+g？
01:00:400 (1) - 这个地方没必要这么....总而言之我觉得1.5x比较好
01:17:462 (2) - 觉得这里ctrl+g flow比较好
01:31:150 (1,1,1,1,1) - 视觉冲击达到了.....但是我还是觉得这里分开跳比较好
01:32:556 (1) - 恩然后这个blanket没搞好

[INSANE]
....第七个难度都是extra了最高难度还叫insane真是一大槽点
00:39:025 (1,2) - ctrl+g
01:27:025 (1,2) - ctrl+g
01:27:212 (3,4) - ctrl+g然后感觉比较帅
01:52:337 (2) - 就停在前面那个冲击力比较强的地方就好这个删掉

我并不是泡这张图的最适合的人选
这张图里所包含的技巧值得肯定但是对我来说是类似于"盲区"的存在
加油吧少年们，去寻找命中注定的那个人！(.)
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
iNsAnE
Skystar
1,628 posts
Joined May 2011
Skystar
懶炸了能不能幫我改啊 其實沒幾個想改的
nooblet
630 posts
Joined December 2011
nooblet
HYPE
scylex
36 posts
Joined August 2013
scylex
what happened to the older difficulty made by skystar? the one in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE4aTFGBYRk
it was one of my favorite maps, but i got a new hard drive for my computer and lost the map
Flower
1,740 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Flower
Too hard to reply to each. Fixed some. Thank you!
09kami
829 posts
Joined August 2010
09kami
for m4m
[General]
神图祝早日RANK！

[Extra]
  1. 00:48:118 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - 这里的三角形有点小小的差别 00:48:587 (3,4,1) - 把这里ctrl+h后拉到00:48:306 (3,1,2) - 上可以很明显的看到滑条那里的突出
    另外00:48:587 (3,4,1) - 这个三角也没对齐 00:48:587 (3,4,1) - 如果这里你是想搞三角形扩散的话00:48:680 (4) - 的位置稍微向上拉一点 00:48:587 (3) - 向下稍微拉一点
  2. 00:48:400 (1,2) - 其实我建议换个位置
  3. 01:21:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 把这里圈住看绿色的轨迹 01:23:743 (2) - 这里稍微可以往上放点
  4. 01:54:493 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 对于这个难度而言 这里太简单平凡了 建议你每4个放大0.2的间距
  5. 00:14:462 (3,4,5) - 00:15:025 (7,8,9) - 这里把连打放在一个位置上感觉比这样放一条直线的比较好
  6. 01:08:650 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 这种遮挡的比大间距的要难度很多

[Skystar's Expert]

  2. 00:20:650 (3,5) - 这里的间距不摆一样吗
  3. 01:13:806 (7,1,2) - 1分
  4. 01:18:400 (1,1) - 这里没连好啊 不考虑做圆滑点吗
[HW's EX]
  1. 放浪形骸 无人可摸

[fanzhen's Extra]
  1. 00:32:650 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl+g
  2. 01:50:650 (1,2,3) - 这里可以分开点

[Another]
  1. 01:23:650 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这个地方可以逼死一堆强迫症
[LKs' Another]
  1. 00:30:212 (4) - 这里太突出了
[Hyper]
  1. 01:30:400 (1) - 中间红线漏音


    [Irre's Normal]
    1. pls aimod
MEK
66 posts
Joined September 2013
MEK
HW's EX

00:30:962 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - hard to sightread, maybe problem for ranking

otherwise this is my favourite mapset ever i love you guys please get this ranked

if u change pls no kds
Flower
1,740 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Flower

09kami wrote:

for m4m
[General]
神图祝早日RANK！

[Extra]
  1. 00:48:118 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - 这里的三角形有点小小的差别 00:48:587 (3,4,1) - 把这里ctrl+h后拉到00:48:306 (3,1,2) - 上可以很明显的看到滑条那里的突出
    另外00:48:587 (3,4,1) - 这个三角也没对齐 00:48:587 (3,4,1) - 如果这里你是想搞三角形扩散的话00:48:680 (4) - 的位置稍微向上拉一点 00:48:587 (3) - 向下稍微拉一点 因为并不是为了搞正三角形
  2. 00:48:400 (1,2) - 其实我建议换个位置 暂时就先放这吧……
  3. 01:21:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 把这里圈住看绿色的轨迹 01:23:743 (2) - 这里稍微可以往上放点 没错！
  4. 01:54:493 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 对于这个难度而言 这里太简单平凡了 建议你每4个放大0.2的间距 就是要冷静一下
  5. 00:14:462 (3,4,5) - 00:15:025 (7,8,9) - 这里把连打放在一个位置上感觉比这样放一条直线的比较好 疾走感(?)
  6. 01:08:650 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 这种遮挡的比大间距的要难度很多 我相信top们的实力
[Skystar's Expert]

  2. 00:20:650 (3,5) - 这里的间距不摆一样吗
  3. 01:13:806 (7,1,2) - 1分
  4. 01:18:400 (1,1) - 这里没连好啊 不考虑做圆滑点吗
[HW's EX]
  1. 放浪形骸 无人可摸
[fanzhen's Extra]
  1. 00:32:650 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl+g
  2. 01:50:650 (1,2,3) - 这里可以分开点
[Another]
  1. 01:23:650 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这个地方可以逼死一堆强迫症
[LKs' Another]
  1. 00:30:212 (4) - 这里太突出了
[Hyper]
  1. 01:30:400 (1) - 中间红线漏音


    [Irre's Normal]
    1. pls aimod 这边我看了基本都是kiai增大间距的原因，没啥
其他的就不一个一个回了。感谢mod！
moonlightleaf
2,170 posts
Joined September 2011
moonlightleaf
[Extra]

00:04:150 (4) - 删

00:06:025 - 加

00:16:056 (3,4) - 这类是故意的么

00:33:212 (4,5) - 要不要换滑条 参考后面00:38:462 (4) -

00:36:400 (1,2,3,4,5) - 要不要做成一直线,比如
SPOILER

00:52:056 (3,4) - 这个ds确实有点远了

00:56:275 (2,3) - ^ 星星(rank#900)说接不上

01:04:431 (4,5,6) - 这种3连也 ^ 那么我不会摸了 pass

[Skystar's Expert]

00:09:400 - 似乎漏了个很高的音

00:25:243 (1,2) - 因為是紅色所以放遠一點(嗯嗯 是这样

00:50:650 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 观赏图(嗯 乱七八糟 难read

01:25:900 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 星爷这连打你能全连吗(能就当我没说

01:39:400 (1) - 我觉得可以放远点, 448|4 ?

01:51:212 加note

嗯,比花花的良心些

[fanzhen's Hard]

00:07:337 (2) - 这应该是设定不叠,嗯

00:43:150 加个note不然有点奇怪

[Irre's Normal]

00:38:650 add note at 300|360 then 00:39:400 (1) - ctrl+g ,try

01:00:025 (3,2) - stack

01:16:900 (1) - no need NC

01:24:400 (1) - i pefer a Spinner

01:54:400 (1,1) - use 1 Spinner is better

[LKs' Another]

diff 名有点奇怪 少个s 还是故意的?

00:25:993 (1) - 结束在00:27:025 比较容易接下一个 刚好有个"叮"音

00:47:650 (4) - 344|228 怎么样,

00:52:618 (1,2) - 2NC 1取消

01:09:025 (1,2,3) - 3分音我觉得用返折滑条带掉吧?

01:32:556 (1,3) - 3NC提示变1/3 , 1取消NC(

01:39:400 加个note?

01:57:212 ^

剩下Ex diff pass
Flower
1,740 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Flower
神摸，太长了不好一个一个回，除了我的难度（zzh说一起把打不动的梗跟我说了全都改了）以外基本都改了。感谢mod
Princess God
135 posts
Joined June 2010
Princess God
挖个坑，太久没好好打osu了，大概七星难度的摸会出不少笑话，还请包涵了
Easy
没啥大问题……改不改都无所谓了~
00:24:400 (2) - 尾部是不是少了个whistle？
01:52:150 (2,4) - sampleset改成soft

Irre`s Normal
本来以为normal没啥问题的来着，不过感觉可以改的地方还是有一些的
01:24:400 (1) - 这里还是分成两个吧，不然太单一了
01:44:275 (2) - 头部的clap比较难受啊，不如头尾都用whistle
01:48:025 (3) - 这里的clap也不舒服，强烈建议换成whistle
01:54:400 (1) - 和01:55:993 (1) - 建议合成一个转盘，两个转盘而且间距比较小，略危险啊

fanzhen's hard
没啥好说的，除了一些无关紧要的音效细节也许可以改改，但是不改也没啥~

Hyper
00:07:900 (1) - 建议把sampleset调成soft，把additions调成normal，音效要好得多
00:51:025 (2) - 尾部是不是少了个clap？
01:18:212 (6) - 这里的clap也是无可厚非，然而还是建议绿线减噪
01:24:400 (1,2) - 对这个难度而言距离有些太大了吧？
01:56:931 (8) - 加个whistle吧

Another
00:04:712 (8) - 试试看和00:05:462 (4) - 的头重合
这样和00:06:775 (7,8) - 也不冲突正好可以对应
00:09:212 (4) - 我觉得也是调开一些位置比较好
00:46:618 (10) - ctrl+j然后移动到原位置，这里感觉还是随着bgm的起伏进行比较好
01:13:150 (4,5) - 中间的距离渐增如何？67,89也是一个建议
01:18:212 (7) - clap无可厚非，不过我觉得这里需要一根绿线降低点音量
01:38:650 (4) - ctrl+g就是觉得这么来一下好233
01:54:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 有点太缩了，还是1,2,3,4一个距离，5,6,7,8一个距离吧

LKs`s Another
01:26:837 (2,1,2,3,4) -
试试这种排列？
整体而言这个难度看着比较舒服，也是我这张图里能打的最高难度啦……

fanzhen's extra
01:27:025 (1,2,3,4) - 这里是不是有点过难了？？
要不就是几个1,2,3,4逐渐加大距离，这里加大的幅度提升一点，不然感觉一下太突兀
01:28:243 (6) - 这里音效有点刺耳啊，建议把头部的音效放到尾部

剩下的难度对于刚回来的我而言有些过于吃力啦，我就不卖蠢了，祝早日rank
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ZZHBOY
1,649 posts
Joined April 2012
ZZHBOY
看下好了
我把我看不懂的地方说下 你要是有理由要keep的话就把理由写一下
[Extra]
00:04:150 - 这个跟的是什么音 我不觉得音乐这里有什么音比较明显 建议把这个圈去了
00:17:087 (1,2,3,4) - 这两个antijump太难受了 为什么不和后面00:17:837 (5,6,7,8) - 摆一样 后面那个好打的多 而且这些音差的也不是很多
00:21:493 - 有音 00:21:681 - 没音 为什么在有音的地方不放圈 没音的地方放圈
00:31:618 (5,6) - 这里音跟前面也没啥差别 为什么要antijump
00:38:275 (3,4) - 这两个太反人类了 建议按常规摆 各自ctrl+g下 哦 要是故意要几把 就留着吧
01:04:431 (4) - 01:04:993 (1) - 01:06:306 (6) - 01:10:900 (1,2) - 跟的是哪个节奏? 而且01:04:337 - 有音 你是不是放错了 还是故意要自创节奏 自创节奏为什么不放音效
[skystar]
00:35:181 (1,2) - 为什么要放这么远的 对于这一段没有任何必要吧
[fanzhen's extra]
00:18:681 - 这里没音 为什么要多一次折返
01:55:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 跟之前挡的太过了
[lks]
01:09:025 (1,2,3,1) - 过分了

你把每条回复下让我看个结果 然后喊我 剩下的就交给扣啊提了
[Mahua]
702 posts
Joined November 2010
[Mahua]
卧槽要rank？
Flower
1,740 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Flower
明天赶飞机，我先睡个觉
Flower
1,740 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Flower

Nightcore Princess G wrote:

挖个坑，太久没好好打osu了，大概七星难度的摸会出不少笑话，还请包涵了
Easy
没啥大问题……改不改都无所谓了~
00:24:400 (2) - 尾部是不是少了个whistle？
01:52:150 (2,4) - sampleset改成soft

Irre`s Normal
本来以为normal没啥问题的来着，不过感觉可以改的地方还是有一些的
01:24:400 (1) - 这里还是分成两个吧，不然太单一了 感觉会更难所以还是算了
01:44:275 (2) - 头部的clap比较难受啊，不如头尾都用whistle
01:48:025 (3) - 这里的clap也不舒服，强烈建议换成whistle
01:54:400 (1) - 和01:55:993 (1) - 建议合成一个转盘，两个转盘而且间距比较小，略危险啊

fanzhen's hard
没啥好说的，除了一些无关紧要的音效细节也许可以改改，但是不改也没啥~

Hyper
00:07:900 (1) - 建议把sampleset调成soft，把additions调成normal，音效要好得多
00:51:025 (2) - 尾部是不是少了个clap？感觉不用加
01:18:212 (6) - 这里的clap也是无可厚非，然而还是建议绿线减噪
01:24:400 (1,2) - 对这个难度而言距离有些太大了吧？ 这个距离还是很简单的，毕竟light insane
01:56:931 (8) - 加个whistle吧

Another
00:04:712 (8) - 试试看和00:05:462 (4) - 的头重合
这样和00:06:775 (7,8) - 也不冲突正好可以对应 这个我本来就是打算不改的，下同
00:09:212 (4) - 我觉得也是调开一些位置比较好
00:46:618 (10) - ctrl+j然后移动到原位置，这里感觉还是随着bgm的起伏进行比较好 嗯……我觉得现在的比较合曲
01:13:150 (4,5) - 中间的距离渐增如何？67,89也是一个建议
01:18:212 (7) - clap无可厚非，不过我觉得这里需要一根绿线降低点音量
01:38:650 (4) - ctrl+g就是觉得这么来一下好233 不太和我胃口……
01:54:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 有点太缩了，还是1,2,3,4一个距离，5,6,7,8一个距离吧 感觉没啥必要

LKs`s Another
01:26:837 (2,1,2,3,4) -
试试这种排列？
感觉还是就这样比较舒服
整体而言这个难度看着比较舒服，也是我这张图里能打的最高难度啦……

fanzhen's extra
01:27:025 (1,2,3,4) - 这里是不是有点过难了？？ 我感觉这样还好
要不就是几个1,2,3,4逐渐加大距离，这里加大的幅度提升一点，不然感觉一下太突兀
01:28:243 (6) - 这里音效有点刺耳啊，建议把头部的音效放到尾部

剩下的难度对于刚回来的我而言有些过于吃力啦，我就不卖蠢了，祝早日rank

ZZHBOY wrote:

看下好了
我把我看不懂的地方说下 你要是有理由要keep的话就把理由写一下
[Extra]
00:04:150 - 这个跟的是什么音 我不觉得音乐这里有什么音比较明显 建议把这个圈去了
00:17:087 (1,2,3,4) - 这两个antijump太难受了 为什么不和后面00:17:837 (5,6,7,8) - 摆一样 后面那个好打的多 而且这些音差的也不是很多
00:21:493 - 有音 00:21:681 - 没音 为什么在有音的地方不放圈 没音的地方放圈
00:31:618 (5,6) - 这里音跟前面也没啥差别 为什么要antijump
00:38:275 (3,4) - 这两个太反人类了 建议按常规摆 各自ctrl+g下 哦 要是故意要几把 就留着吧
01:04:431 (4) - 01:04:993 (1) - 01:06:306 (6) - 01:10:900 (1,2) - 跟的是哪个节奏? 而且01:04:337 - 有音 你是不是放错了 还是故意要自创节奏 自创节奏为什么不放音效
[skystar]
00:35:181 (1,2) - 为什么要放这么远的 对于这一段没有任何必要吧
[fanzhen's extra]
00:18:681 - 这里没音 为什么要多一次折返　　这里比较有疾走感吧
01:55:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 跟之前挡的太过了 其实我感觉原地不动就行。稍微移出来了一点
[lks]
01:09:025 (1,2,3,1) - 过分了

你把每条回复下让我看个结果 然后喊我 剩下的就交给扣啊提了
其他的都改了。thanks for modding~
Rizia
3,114 posts
Joined January 2012
Rizia
[uNTiTLeD]
  1. 00:36:587 (3,4) - ctrl+g會比較順
  2. 01:03:025 (4) - 我覺得換成circle也挺適合的..
[fanzhen's Extra]
  1. 00:33:025 (1,2,3,4) - 感覺這個flow上不太舒服, 因為前面幾個都是繞圈的 突然就反過來了
  2. 01:02:087 - 這裡的3個空位也不填滿? 會比較有趣
  3. 01:57:025 (1) - ctrl+g 由下繞上會不會好點呢
[LKs' Another]
  1. 01:04:900 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - 這裡也跟後面01:10:900 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 漸漸向下放怎樣看
  2. 01:39:400 - 漏了一個note
[Hyper]
  1. 01:33:025 (1,2) - 有點卡手
    SPOILER
[fanzhen's Hard]
  1. 00:11:837 (1,2) - stack?
[Irre's Normal]
  1. 01:20:837 - map something here to make it more natrual? like add 1/2 slider here instead only one circle on 01:21:025 (5) -
that's all
真是人玩的
比較少接觸這類歌 可能摸得比較差
另外我這邊的歌最快明天會給到
Flower
1,740 posts
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Topic Starter
Flower

Rizia wrote:

[uNTiTLeD]
  1. 00:36:587 (3,4) - ctrl+g會比較順 我认为现在的这样，两个一组比较有气势
  2. 01:03:025 (4) - 我覺得換成circle也挺適合的.. 滑条算是比较强调clap的音吧lol


[fanzhen's Extra]
  1. 00:33:025 (1,2,3,4) - 感覺這個flow上不太舒服, 因為前面幾個都是繞圈的 突然就反過來了 目前感觉比较符合你说的flow的摆法有顺时针旋转90度，把1转到2来，不过这样间距有点吓人，还是就保持原状比较好
  2. 01:02:087 - 這裡的3個空位也不填滿? 會比較有趣 这种渐变式的减少节奏也算一种提示玩家的方式吧
  3. 01:57:025 (1) - ctrl+g 由下繞上會不會好點呢 好的
[LKs' Another]
  1. 01:04:900 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - 這裡也跟後面01:10:900 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 漸漸向下放怎樣看 ok
  2. 01:39:400 - 漏了一個note 个人觉得这里并没有太大的必要加上去
[Hyper]
  1. 01:33:025 (1,2) - 有點卡手 OK lol
    SPOILER
[fanzhen's Hard]
  1. 00:11:837 (1,2) - stack? ok
[Irre's Normal]
  1. 01:20:837 - map something here to make it more natrual? like add 1/2 slider here instead only one circle on 01:21:025 (5) - 尽量按照原mapper的风格加了一个slider……有点慌
that's all
真是人玩的
比較少接觸這類歌 可能摸得比較差
另外我這邊的歌最快明天會給到
想了想把diff名也改了下，还是原来那种中二的感觉比较爽
thanks for modding~
Rizia
3,114 posts
Joined January 2012
Rizia
fixed some snap via irc
interesting mapset
Bubbled
ZZHBOY
1,649 posts
Joined April 2012
ZZHBOY
interesting.
i'm tired to look those shit pp jumpping maps. it's worth to push this forward. it's a soul map.
waiting for your discussion.
Lami
1,756 posts
Joined June 2011
Lami
xd
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Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Shiirn
quietly lights a single candle in a dark room, hands clasped together in silent prayer
Kaine
370 posts
Joined July 2012
Kaine
Amen
UndeadCapulet
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Joined April 2013
UndeadCapulet
never thought i'd see this set qualified

so much hype
Giralda
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Giralda
Grats!
byfar
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Joined July 2014
byfar
good job people!
Kvantuma Rozo
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Kvantuma Rozo
花花花花花
Len
Beatmap Nominator
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Joined June 2012
Len
Nice mapset, Awesome diffs, I waited 1y yeah
Zero__wind
osu! Alumni
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Joined August 2012
Zero__wind
怀念旧diff name
[AXION REBORN?????? fking who made this one1111111111111111 i wanna killl111111111111 YOU!!!]
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,661 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
This set is really well mapped. But it's also overdone :P. This is going to set a poor example for new mappers who think they can just map double-bpm on any song :P. I wouldn't be surprised if this made it past qualified the first time though. It seems nowadays difficulty is excusable if the map is well structured and looks pretty. Lets see how this goes.
ac8129464363
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Joined October 2013
ac8129464363
whoa
Kinomi
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Joined August 2012
Kinomi
扶老二找摸三百年找BN四百年七百年后终于飞图
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani

Shiirn wrote:

quietly lights a single candle in a dark room, hands clasped together in silent prayer
what the fuck do you mean
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
2,881 posts
Joined March 2009
Charles445
Yeah, I uh...

I can't defend you guys on this one.

Sorry.
Xexxar
915 posts
Joined June 2013
Xexxar

Monstrata wrote:

This set is really well mapped. But it's also overdone :P. This is going to set a poor example for new mappers who think they can just map double-bpm on any song :P. I wouldn't be surprised if this made it past qualified the first time though. It seems nowadays difficulty is excusable if the map is well structured and looks pretty. Lets see how this goes.
if only that were tru tho rip me

Shiirn wrote:

quietly lights a single candle in a dark room, hands clasped together in silent prayer
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iiyo
522 posts
Joined March 2013
iiyo
good for ctb
Avishay
1,250 posts
Joined April 2013
Avishay

Monstrata wrote:

It seems nowadays difficulty is excusable if the map is well structured and looks pretty.
Doubtful, just take a look on the submitter's name.
Xexxar
915 posts
Joined June 2013
Xexxar

Avishay wrote:

Monstrata wrote:

It seems nowadays difficulty is excusable if the map is well structured and looks pretty.
Doubtful, just take a look on the submitter's name.
hi i'd like to mod this map:

Natsu wrote:

what we are saying is the overall spacing in the diff does not correlate with this song,

Natsu wrote:

  1. Always using high spacing at any weak beat make you lost the emphasis at the strong beats.
  2. spacing should increase acording to the music, which is not the case at this diff
  3. Random circle sizes just make players confuse, I'm sure you don't have any strong reason to use the ,3
  4. Try to focus more in following the music, rather in the lvl of difficulty or pp
  5. osu! isn't a shooting game, we have to fit the song, and yeah jumps and spacing are part of it.
  6. song is not intense at all.

This diff really need more feedback, even tho I'd suggest a remap/remove or a seriously rework overall (several mods, by experienced modders), since it needs too much work in my opinion.
I have been told I should state that this comment is not to be taken seriously (unless you want to).
Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient
congratz on qualify!

grabs popcorn
Shad0w1and
1,586 posts
Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and

Natsu wrote:

  1. Always using high spacing at any weak beat make you lost the emphasis at the strong beats.
  2. spacing should increase acording to the music, which is not the case at this diff
  3. Random circle sizes just make players confuse, I'm sure you don't have any strong reason to use the ,3
  4. Try to focus more in following the music, rather in the lvl of difficulty or pp
  5. osu! isn't a shooting game, we have to fit the song, and yeah jumps and spacing are part of it.
  6. song is not intense at all. :arrow: this does not apply to this song. it is all about song choosing

This diff really need more feedback, even tho I'd suggest a remap/remove or a seriously rework overall (several mods, by experienced modders), since it needs too much work in my opinion.
@xexxar, those mappers love to map songs like this is because these songs are not like galgame op that have vocal flow need to be presented. these songs have multiple instruments could been considered and mapper could feel free to switch between them and make patterns, that is the difference.
Lavender
Beatmap Nominator
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Joined January 2014
Lavender
psl enojy gema

*popcorn*
Fushimi Rio
Fushimi Rio
the fisher got a shrimp
Nakano Itsuki
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Nakano Itsuki
pls enju gemu
*grabs popcorn*
Suisei Hosimati
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Suisei Hosimati
不如直接叫我不要玩
Constantine
400 posts
Joined September 2013
Constantine

Fantasy wrote:

good for ctb
------

Shad0w1and wrote:

@xexxar, those mappers love to map songs like this is because these songs are not like galgame op that have vocal flow need to be presented. these songs have multiple instruments could been considered and mapper could feel free to switch between them and make patterns, that is the difference

Xexxar wrote:

I have been told I should state that this comment is not to be taken seriously (unless you want to).
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Koiyuki
Beatmap Nominator
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Koiyuki
我至今还记得当年被发发说你hard太菜不收你gd的那刻
-Kanzaki
889 posts
Joined June 2012
-Kanzaki

Monstrata wrote:

This set is really well mapped. But it's also overdone :P. This is going to set a poor example for new mappers who think they can just map double-bpm on any song :P. I wouldn't be surprised if this made it past qualified the first time though. It seems nowadays difficulty is excusable if the map is well structured and looks pretty. Lets see how this goes.
Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient
well we can only wait for the QATs verdict on whether it gets DQd or not.

someone back in 2015 wrote:

How can you say it plays bad?
Sorry dude, with all the respect, can you even pass this map?
Karen
2,874 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
can you guys stop dropping shit posts and help the map instead.

btw,
in fanzhen's Hard
00:01:900 - there is no sv change on this green line, it should be avoided.
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Shad0w1and
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Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and
fanzhen's hard
01:04:900 - 01:10:900 - no point to miss these sounds
Sonnyc
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Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
man great map
Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient

Karen wrote:

can you guys stop dropping shit posts and help the map instead.
wait its getting dq'd?!
Shad0w1and
1,586 posts
Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and

Minakami Yuki wrote:

我至今还记得当年被发发说你hard太菜不收你gd的那刻
yuki現在是神麻婆啦。

Anxient wrote:

Karen wrote:

can you guys stop dropping shit posts and help the map instead.
wait its getting dq'd?!
Quite likely? Since popular map might get more attention and inputs?

Monstrata wrote:

This set is really well mapped. But it's also overdone :P. This is going to set a poor example for new mappers who think they can just map double-bpm on any song :P.
not really, new mappers could not map like this, unless they are genius. the difficulty spread highlights the climax of the song. if certain part is intense enough, the difficulty of that part could be unlimited. i dont find a actual overdone part when i checking the extra diffs. or some part might be doubtful, lets see the inputs from top player modders
-Kanzaki
889 posts
Joined June 2012
-Kanzaki

Shad0w1and wrote:

Monstrata wrote:

This set is really well mapped. But it's also overdone :P. This is going to set a poor example for new mappers who think they can just map double-bpm on any song :P.
not really, new mappers could not map like this, unless they are genius. the difficulty spread highlights the climax of the song. if certain part is intense enough, the difficulty of that part could be unlimited. i dont find a actual overdone part when i checking the extra diffs. or some part might be doubtful, lets see the inputs from top player modders

I can pass them still think overdone. I don't know what is your overdone logic but those streams on some parts + on HW diff SV is too high i don't think the song feels that exciting and fast.
Sonnyc
7,776 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
Everyone has a different interpretation towards the song, and would have a different feeling about "overdone".

Not sure if talking which is overdone and which is not would be a healthy discussion this point :<
Shad0w1and
1,586 posts
Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and

-Kanzaki wrote:

I can pass them still think overdone. I don't know what is your overdone logic but those streams on some parts + on HW diff SV is too high i don't think the song feels that exciting and fast.
i mean the mapset as a whole. HW's.. well i really could not judge that diff, it should be a 8star diff but just SR does not consider the slider difficulty and other stuff.
but i dont see overdone in skystar's diff and main diff in general. some doubtful parts we need top players' inputs.

Edit: regarding to normal-hitwhistle2.wav delay, I assume its 4ms delay. then this should fix the problem
http://puu.sh/mvxGe/4e3d732d1d.wav
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HappyRocket88
4,322 posts
Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88
Karen is right. If well is allowed to place a red and a green line at the same spot. they MUST have the same vol. Here's the prove:


Besides of the above exposed, there's a hitsound which have a possible delay of >5ms: normal-hitwhistle2.wav
Yuii-
2,501 posts
Joined July 2013
Yuii-
A possible delay? Close that AutoMod and open your damn Audacity, please.

And please, stop saying that people can have a different way to interpretate music's intensity. Stop it.
Sonnyc
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Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
SPOILER

Regarding hitsound delay, this is what I got. Yeah, it has a delay.
HappyRocket88
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HappyRocket88
*Modding Assitant. XDD
-Kanzaki
889 posts
Joined June 2012
-Kanzaki

Yuii- wrote:

And please, stop saying that people can have a different way to interpretate music's intensity. Stop it.
byfar
1,186 posts
Joined July 2014
byfar
no, people CAN have a different interpretation of a song's intensity. in the end it depends on the execution of the mapping in order to determine if it fits or not .
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UndeadCapulet
1,100 posts
Joined April 2013
UndeadCapulet

byfar wrote:

no, people CAN have a different interpretation of a song's intensity. in the end it depends on the execution of the mapping to see if it fits or does not fit.
fartownik
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ranking this is the worst thing that happened to humanity since World War II
Kuuma
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fartownik wrote:

ranking this is the worst thing that happened to humanity since World War II
You must not know a lot of history. I'd have to strongly disagree with your claim.
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru

Kuuma wrote:

fartownik wrote:

ranking this is the worst thing that happened to humanity since World War II
You must not know a lot of history. I'd have to strongly disagree with your claim.
its clearly a joke dude.
Winnie
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Modders make me smile :D
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Flower
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Flower
Some technical thing.

1. Green line and red line.
That is a problem. I wonder why AiMod doesn't check that. It's my mistake didn't use AiBat.

2. Delayed hitsound
I don't have audio editing tool and I don't know how to edit sound, so if anyone would like to do it I would like to appreciate it.

3. Readability
I think that slider has a stack, so won't be a problem.

Some other thing.
Deq is confirmed according to the above claims. I hope things could be solved once for all. No drama. No hating. 还有希望朋友们好好看戏，不要再说话了。辩论有什么用呢，能当kd使吗？反正我的图就是屌
Charles445
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Let's hope for no drama / hating.
It might be a good idea to get some more playtesting when the map moves back to pending, there's a lot of weird patterns to play, even in the gimmicky style.
ZZHBOY
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Flower wrote:

Some technical thing.

1. Green line and red line.
That is a problem. I wonder why AiMod doesn't check that. It's my mistake didn't use AiBat.

2. Delayed hitsound
I don't have audio editing tool and I don't know how to edit sound, so if anyone would like to do it I would like to appreciate it.

3. Readability
I think that slider has a stack, so won't be a problem.

Some other thing.
Deq is confirmed according to the above claims. I hope things could be solved once for all. No drama. No hating. 还有希望朋友们好好看戏，不要再说话了。辩论有什么用呢，能当kd使吗？反正我的图就是屌
你要是闲的话找个人来抵扣一下把红绿先改了再喊我
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byfar
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Aeii wrote:

Isn't this technically unrankable? When playing it's impossible to tell whether it's 2 sliders or a hitcircle and a long slider (especially at this sv and ar). This is even a bigger issue for people that don't use snaking sliders.
No, this is rankable.
riffy
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Greetings! I am here to give you a chance to fix the already mentioned issues like concurrent volume values on green and red point.

Please, keep the discussion on an appropriate level and do not go off-topic. I hope we can handle this in a peaceful way.
Flower
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I'll come back later today around 8pm UTC+8

Edit: I'll do this this weekend. Time to deal with my study these days
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Kuuma
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Kibbleru wrote:

its clearly a joke dude.
Clearly a bad one
Enon
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Beatmapping is really hard
Len
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Len
same
hehe
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hehe
hi xd

here's a fixed hitwhistle with most of the 'empty noise' cut off. i actually don't think its necessary since its not a hitnormal or anything.
what i removed

CODENAME_AXION
increase OD? (8.5/9)
00:39:025 (1) - stack this on 00:38:462 (4) - head to so that there's more movement after 00:38:837 (3) -
01:13:993 (1) - try ending the spinner here instead 01:15:025 - ? it has a sound, and as it stands you have to continue spinning even when the note is visible which isn't really pleasant, same for hyper

and thank you for mapping and hosting this set, its really an inspiration!
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buny
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if mapper thinks the song is as intense as they think it is, then be my guest

but there is no excuse to have such a terrible consistency in difficulty. The spacing makes absolutely no sense, there is hardly any change in rhythm in the song that is emphasised by most of the incredibly spiky spacing

the only difficulty i actually enjoyed playing was Skystar's, until i reached that retarded zigzag jump stream (seriously this is a completely retarded difficulty spike compared to the rest of the map). HWs difficulty also gave me cancer the moment I got up to the first fast slider, so like 3 seconds in.
Illkryn
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Illkryn
Skystar's was nice.

Zigzag made me want to commit though.
RoX2_Fang
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lol
-Kanzaki
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a loli wrote:

the only difficulty i actually enjoyed playing was Skystar's, until i reached that retarded zigzag jump stream (seriously this is a completely retarded difficulty spike compared to the rest of the map).

well i agree with you i didn't make sense to me too. But yes someone of course could fc it lol.

a loli wrote:

HWs difficulty also gave me cancer the moment I got up to the first fast slider, so like 3 seconds in.

yes
Rivals_7
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Rivals_7
Sorry to interrupt this thread, but i just wanna ask.

Why the last diff name are named "CODENAME_AXION"? How is that are even related to AXION?
I know Codename Zero and AXION are in the same chapter in Cytus, but again, how is that related? Codename zero was created by NeLiMe. AXION is by Sakuzyo.


can you just rename it to "Extra" or "Doom" or something? xD
iiyo
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iiyo
good for ctb
VINXIS
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hollow wings plays the best imo the rest r all re ally inconsistent and feel r e a l l y random to the point wher theyr lik wh
Irreversible
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Irreversible
who made this pro normal
Epiphany
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Epiphany

-Kanzaki wrote:

I can pass them still think overdone. I don't know what is your overdone logic but those streams on some parts + on HW diff SV is too high i don't think the song feels that exciting and fast.


i want to see a pass on last diff then, im 100% sure that you cannot pass that lol
Charles445
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Heya! Good luck on studies.

When you get back, here's a gameplay mod for some stuff, mostly movement and readability.
I'm trying to keep the original intentions of the difficulties intact of course, treating it like I would if it was Lindwurm

[Irre's Normal]
01:15:400 (1,2,3) - Players new to the game are likely relying on overlapping to determine 1/2, this could easily look like 1/1 to them (it screwed me up on doubletime, heheh)
01:50:462 (1) - Remove new combo for consistency with the previous bit (helps readability too)

[fanzhen's Hard]
great stuff

[Hyper]
01:13:993 (1) - I think you could end the spinner at 01:15:025 - for some nice impact, like in the Another diff.

[LKs' Another]
00:30:212 (4) - Remove a repeat? These are sometimes easy to sliderbreak on because of releasing too soon.
00:42:025 (1,2,3,4) - 1/8 sliders seem out of place here, not really much in the music like that. I think a regular 1/4 stream would be good
00:52:806 - You're mapping the trumpet for (1,2,3,4), so a circle here on top of the slider would finish that pattern -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4340824
01:13:993 (1) - I think you could end the spinner at 01:15:025 - for some nice impact, like in the Another diff.
01:15:775 (1) - Remove new combo, no need for this one
01:26:650 (1,2) - I think if these went up instead of down it'd play a bit better -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4340841
01:27:775 (1) - Remove new combo, no need again
01:39:400 - Add circle?
01:46:900 (9,1) - I think swapping these new combos would make this a bit easier to read

[fanzhen's Extra]
00:15:775 (5,6,7,8) - Really weird to switch to this rhythm in this part. I think sticking to the old one is a better idea -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4340942
00:18:400 (1) - Maybe remove a repeat from this slider?
00:25:243 (2,3) - Really big jump x_x, I miss this one almost every time
00:29:556 (4,1) - This is quite a big jump for this part of the map, it's hard enough to keep up with regular spacing.
00:33:962 (2,1,2,3) - Too big a jump, 2 is almost always a break and moving suddenly up, then fast to the left is really painful.
00:28:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - These are a real pain because of how they're stacked, it's intuitive to be not moving when playing them. It'd be nice if these were overlapping more -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4340980
00:29:650 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - These are especially frustrating, same as before.
00:32:275 (1,2,3,4) - Select these and CTRL + G? I think this movement is more fun / intuitive -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341004
00:32:837 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This is really really hard, I think most people die at this part. Maybe moving the square closer and rotating it a bit could help... -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341022
00:50:650 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Really hard to read and play, I think a different pattern would work better.
01:14:556 (8,1,2) - In this pattern the pattern speeds up at 1,2 but I think speeding up at 8,1 would be better / fit the previous parts of the map, like 00:38:931 (4,1) - -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341040
01:20:181 (2,3) - This is a really weird pause
01:27:025 (1,2,3,4,1) - It's crazy hard to follow this stream properly, I think less jagged lines and more smooth curves would be cool here
01:30:400 (1,1,1,1,1) - Doesn't feel right to do 1/8 here, also it makes this jump easy to miss. 1/4 would be just fine.
01:30:493 (1,1,1,1) - You should remove the new combos from these, it messes with the HP drain too much.
01:56:275 (3,1) - Try swapping these new combos, it'd be easier to read since it'd make all new combos on white ticks in that section.

[HW's EX]
00:25:900 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders move at a good pace, but players usually take a bit to get started when moving on a slider. It's likely that they'll break on the 1 but not on the 2. A lower slider velocity is usually a good idea in these cases, just so the player doesn't have to worry so much.
Try 1.70x, it works really well. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341112
00:27:400 (1) - Players usually want to stop moving on repeat sliders and wait for them to finish, for these I think if they moved slower it'd be a lot more intuitive. For the repeat sliders, try 0.90x slider velocity.
00:28:712 - 0.90x? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341182
00:31:338 (5,1) - Really hard to read, makes this part pretty frustrating and will likely make lots of players upset.
00:35:556 (3) - I think raise this a little higher up -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341131
00:36:775 (3) - Since there's a big jump at 00:36:775 (3,1) - maybe try 0.85x here for the repeat -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341193
00:37:525 - 0.90x? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341198
00:41:181 (2) - Raise this a little bit higher? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341225
00:43:337 (5,1) - So far away, can't see it, haha, maybe down below the 2? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341209
00:41:556 (4) - I sliderbreak a lot here, repeat is too fast x_x, maybe 1.10x? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341239
00:45:212 (2) - It's hard to see this slider, maybe have it go the other direction -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342013
00:49:150 (5) - A new combo here would probably make this easier to read.
00:50:368 (4) - I think keeping the doubles going would be cool here -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342024
00:52:665 (3) - Slider is snapped incorrectly. Use 1/4 like the other difficulties
00:53:650 (1,2,3,4) - These are a pain, the sliders are too long to keep moving upwards on, they always sliderbreak. I think you'd want to do something else here.
01:13:525 (1,2) - The distance on these is getting pretty silly, this is 320bpm jumps equivalent, jumps this far are either 100s. 50s, or need insane luck. I'd consider doing an easier pattern for that whole section.
01:16:056 (3,4,5) - Tough movement for these, it's a lot like 00:53:650 - with possible sliderbreaks. Instead of going against movement completely, try right angles or something -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342070
01:17:650 (5,6) - Harsh angle again like before, maybe reverse 01:17:837 (6) - so it's like an oval -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342078
01:19:337 (5) - Reverse this so the jump is easier up to the top right? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342082
01:28:337 (5) - Reverse this for the jump?
01:34:525 (1,2) - This is a really big jump for this section x_x
01:36:025 (1,2) - I'd make these easier
01:37:525 (1,2) - Same as before
01:47:650 (3) - Add new combo so it's clear that this isn't a jump

[Skystar's Expert]
00:22:525 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is a real pain, same with 00:24:025 (1,2,3,4,5) - , these stacked weird angle streams are frustrating.
00:24:775 (2,2,2) - I'd make these 1/4 sliders, more lenient hitbox, less unfair 100s. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342204
00:26:650 (1,2) - WHY is the 2 on the blue tick? Players want to press the big beat!
The new comboing in this section makes it incredibly hard to tell what's going on. Ideally all the new combos would be on red or white ticks, never blue ticks.
00:28:618 (2,3) - Ack this is really annoying skystar please stop.
It's hard to judge this section's playability with the new combos like they are, so I'm going to skip this segment.
00:50:650 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Really hard to read and play, I think a different pattern would work better.
00:53:743 (1) - Remove new combo, readability.
00:55:243 (1) - Remov new combo, readability.
01:16:056 (1) - Looks like it's 1/2 due to it having a new combo, not 1/4... might want to remove the NC from here.
01:16:243 - It looks like you want to map the melody, but the melody's perceived beat is at 01:16:150 - , it just has a lot of buildup as a string instrument. I'd redo the beat placement in this combo.
01:17:368 (1,2) - I think you want to redo this blanket.
01:19:056 (1,2) - Again, blue tick new combo is weird, perceived beat of the melody is on the big white tick, redo this bit.
01:20:275 (1,2,3,4) - Are these going to be that visible after 01:19:900 (1) - ? You may wish to reconsider this pattern.
01:25:900 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - dude nobody is going to do this it's effectively a brick wall cmon
01:28:056 (1,2) - Blak blah new combo blah blah perceived melody blah
01:30:400 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel right to do 1/8 here, 1/4 would be just fine.
01:31:150 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I don't think you need a new combo for every object, every other maybe? Just be careful with HP drain, this sort of thing messes it up really bad.
01:33:681 (1,2) - Swap these new combos, easy readability fix.
01:56:931 (1) - That's a really weird beat for the jump to be on.
ehh you can do better than this

[CODENAME_AXION]
This is pretty much past my playing range, so I can't evaluate it too well.
I'll just cover a few things.

00:21:400 (10,1,2) - I think having the new combo on the 10 would make this easier to read. It might not look as pretty, but it'll be way clearer. It'll pair with 00:21:962 (5,6,7) - nicely.
00:31:618 (5,6,1,2) - A bit weird here, have to slow down for the 6 but then do a huge jump in the same direction to the 1? That's really frustrating to do
00:36:587 (3,4) - Unlikely the player will see 3 properly I think, and the jump is pretty rough. Reversing 3 and 4 and playing it safer is a good idea. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342280
00:48:400 (1,2,3,4,1) - Painful movement, I'd get some playtesters to check this bit
00:49:525 (1,2,3,4) - 1/8 sliders seem out of place here, not really much in the music like that. I think a regular 1/4 stream would be good
00:54:400 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Brital, I don't think it plays too well though
01:13:993 (1) - I think you could end the spinner at 01:15:025 - for some nice impact, like in the Another diff.
01:25:900 (1,2,3,4) - The player is going to be stopped for these 1,2 and 3,4, it is incredibly unlikely that they are going to suddenly be able to start moving with each object like 01:26:275 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - , especially not the insane ones like 01:26:930 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - . This is way, way too much.
01:30:400 (1,2,3,4,1) - Doesn't feel right to do 1/8 here, 1/4 would be just fine.
01:34:056 (4) - This slider starts very strangely. There isn't too much going on at 01:34:056 - , but there's plenty at 01:34:150 - .
01:34:337 (1,2,3,4) - Crazy jump and movement, I think you should do something easier / simpler.
01:37:900 (7,1) - Swap these new combos, it will make this section easier to read.
01:38:650 (1,2,3,4) - That's not as bad as the previous but it's still edging on unreasonable. Be careful with this stuff
Zweib
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Zweib

Charles445 wrote:

[CODENAME_AXION]
00:31:618 (5,6,1,2) - A bit weird here, have to slow down for the 6 but then do a huge jump in the same direction to the 1? That's really frustrating to do
I agree with this and I hope (5) could be a reverse slider or 1/2 slider and (6) to be removed
Suisei Hosimati
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Suisei Hosimati
Let's see does those GDers are active
WORSTPOLACKEU
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WORSTPOLACKEU
What the fuck.
Starcaller
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Starcaller

Kuuma wrote:

fartownik wrote:

ranking this is the worst thing that happened to humanity since World War II
You must not know a lot of history. I'd have to strongly disagree with your claim.
your country didnt get nuked
Gemitaiz
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Gemitaiz

fartownik wrote:

ranking this is the worst thing that happened to humanity since World War II
i agree!
strickluke
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strickluke
it thought it was hard to mess up Normal difficulties :?
Flower
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Topic Starter
Flower

Irreversible wrote:

who made this pro normal

handsome wrote:

hi xd

here's a fixed hitwhistle with most of the 'empty noise' cut off. i actually don't think its necessary since its not a hitnormal or anything. changed
what i removed

CODENAME_AXION
increase OD? (8.5/9) though I think its not necessary... changed to 8.2
00:39:025 (1) - stack this on 00:38:462 (4) - head to so that there's more movement after 00:38:837 (3) - I think it's better to keep it neat with current pattern
01:13:993 (1) - try ending the spinner here instead 01:15:025 - ? it has a sound, and as it stands you have to continue spinning even when the note is visible which isn't really pleasant, same for hyper ok

and thank you for mapping and hosting this set, its really an inspiration!
also changed the green line problem. I'll look at Charles' mod later.

Charles445 wrote:

Heya! Good luck on studies.

When you get back, here's a gameplay mod for some stuff, mostly movement and readability.
I'm trying to keep the original intentions of the difficulties intact of course, treating it like I would if it was Lindwurm

[Irre's Normal]
01:15:400 (1,2,3) - Players new to the game are likely relying on overlapping to determine 1/2, this could easily look like 1/1 to them (it screwed me up on doubletime, heheh) I think it is easy to be determined from the slider speed, so nah, I think it's ok
01:50:462 (1) - Remove new combo for consistency with the previous bit (helps readability too)

[fanzhen's Hard]
great stuff

[Hyper]
01:13:993 (1) - I think you could end the spinner at 01:15:025 - for some nice impact, like in the Another diff.

[LKs' Another]
00:30:212 (4) - Remove a repeat? These are sometimes easy to sliderbreak on because of releasing too soon. I think this should be ok as it follows the music well, player will read it properly
00:42:025 (1,2,3,4) - 1/8 sliders seem out of place here, not really much in the music like that. I think a regular 1/4 stream would be good
00:52:806 - You're mapping the trumpet for (1,2,3,4), so a circle here on top of the slider would finish that pattern -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4340824
01:13:993 (1) - I think you could end the spinner at 01:15:025 - for some nice impact, like in the Another diff.
01:15:775 (1) - Remove new combo, no need for this one
01:26:650 (1,2) - I think if these went up instead of down it'd play a bit better -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4340841 I thought opposite. since this is kind of subjective I decide to keep it
01:27:775 (1) - Remove new combo, no need again
01:39:400 - Add circle? I think the impact is better if i leave it
01:46:900 (9,1) - I think swapping these new combos would make this a bit easier to read i doubt it, and current combo is aesthetically better

[fanzhen's Extra]
00:15:775 (5,6,7,8) - Really weird to switch to this rhythm in this part. I think sticking to the old one is a better idea -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4340942 imo the gradual addition is good, and it plays cool
00:18:400 (1) - Maybe remove a repeat from this slider? I think this one is ok
00:25:243 (2,3) - Really big jump x_x, I miss this one almost every time I made a change. I'll ask fanzhen later about the idea
00:29:556 (4,1) - This is quite a big jump for this part of the map, it's hard enough to keep up with regular spacing.
00:33:962 (2,1,2,3) - Too big a jump, 2 is almost always a break and moving suddenly up, then fast to the left is really painful. I think the jump is acceptable for slider to circle. it plays well even with mouse
00:28:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - These are a real pain because of how they're stacked, it's intuitive to be not moving when playing them. It'd be nice if these were overlapping more -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4340980 this happen too many times in fanshen's previous maps, and I think it's fine. same below
00:29:650 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - These are especially frustrating, same as before.
00:32:275 (1,2,3,4) - Select these and CTRL + G? I think this movement is more fun / intuitive -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341004
00:32:837 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This is really really hard, I think most people die at this part. Maybe moving the square closer and rotating it a bit could help... -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341022
00:50:650 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Really hard to read and play, I think a different pattern would work better. I think the pattern is straightforward. should be same as other overlapped patterns. just need a bit speed
01:14:556 (8,1,2) - In this pattern the pattern speeds up at 1,2 but I think speeding up at 8,1 would be better / fit the previous parts of the map, like 00:38:931 (4,1) - -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341040 umm personally i think current plays better
01:20:181 (2,3) - This is a really weird pause it's same as the previous bar, i think it's readable
01:27:025 (1,2,3,4,1) - It's crazy hard to follow this stream properly, I think less jagged lines and more smooth curves would be cool here i think it should be fine as I made similar pattern before. I'll ask fanzhen
01:30:400 (1,1,1,1,1) - Doesn't feel right to do 1/8 here, also it makes this jump easy to miss. 1/4 would be just fine. nah I think 1/8 follows music
01:30:493 (1,1,1,1) - You should remove the new combos from these, it messes with the HP drain too much. mmm.. this may not be a good reason. it look cool
01:56:275 (3,1) - Try swapping these new combos, it'd be easier to read since it'd make all new combos on white ticks in that section.

[HW's EX]
00:25:900 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders move at a good pace, but players usually take a bit to get started when moving on a slider. It's likely that they'll break on the 1 but not on the 2. A lower slider velocity is usually a good idea in these cases, just so the player doesn't have to worry so much.
Try 1.70x, it works really well. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341112
00:27:400 (1) - Players usually want to stop moving on repeat sliders and wait for them to finish, for these I think if they moved slower it'd be a lot more intuitive. For the repeat sliders, try 0.90x slider velocity.
00:28:712 - 0.90x? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341182
00:31:338 (5,1) - Really hard to read, makes this part pretty frustrating and will likely make lots of players upset.
00:35:556 (3) - I think raise this a little higher up -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341131
00:36:775 (3) - Since there's a big jump at 00:36:775 (3,1) - maybe try 0.85x here for the repeat -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341193
00:37:525 - 0.90x? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341198
00:41:181 (2) - Raise this a little bit higher? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341225
00:43:337 (5,1) - So far away, can't see it, haha, maybe down below the 2? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341209
00:41:556 (4) - I sliderbreak a lot here, repeat is too fast x_x, maybe 1.10x? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341239
00:45:212 (2) - It's hard to see this slider, maybe have it go the other direction -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342013
00:49:150 (5) - A new combo here would probably make this easier to read.
00:50:368 (4) - I think keeping the doubles going would be cool here -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342024
00:52:665 (3) - Slider is snapped incorrectly. Use 1/4 like the other difficulties
00:53:650 (1,2,3,4) - These are a pain, the sliders are too long to keep moving upwards on, they always sliderbreak. I think you'd want to do something else here.
01:13:525 (1,2) - The distance on these is getting pretty silly, this is 320bpm jumps equivalent, jumps this far are either 100s. 50s, or need insane luck. I'd consider doing an easier pattern for that whole section.
01:16:056 (3,4,5) - Tough movement for these, it's a lot like 00:53:650 - with possible sliderbreaks. Instead of going against movement completely, try right angles or something -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342070
01:17:650 (5,6) - Harsh angle again like before, maybe reverse 01:17:837 (6) - so it's like an oval -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342078
01:19:337 (5) - Reverse this so the jump is easier up to the top right? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342082
01:28:337 (5) - Reverse this for the jump?
01:34:525 (1,2) - This is a really big jump for this section x_x
01:36:025 (1,2) - I'd make these easier
01:37:525 (1,2) - Same as before
01:47:650 (3) - Add new combo so it's clear that this isn't a jump

[Skystar's Expert]
00:22:525 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is a real pain, same with 00:24:025 (1,2,3,4,5) - , these stacked weird angle streams are frustrating.
00:24:775 (2,2,2) - I'd make these 1/4 sliders, more lenient hitbox, less unfair 100s. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342204
00:26:650 (1,2) - WHY is the 2 on the blue tick? Players want to press the big beat!
The new comboing in this section makes it incredibly hard to tell what's going on. Ideally all the new combos would be on red or white ticks, never blue ticks.
00:28:618 (2,3) - Ack this is really annoying skystar please stop.
It's hard to judge this section's playability with the new combos like they are, so I'm going to skip this segment.
00:50:650 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Really hard to read and play, I think a different pattern would work better.
00:53:743 (1) - Remove new combo, readability.
00:55:243 (1) - Remov new combo, readability.
01:16:056 (1) - Looks like it's 1/2 due to it having a new combo, not 1/4... might want to remove the NC from here.
01:16:243 - It looks like you want to map the melody, but the melody's perceived beat is at 01:16:150 - , it just has a lot of buildup as a string instrument. I'd redo the beat placement in this combo.
01:17:368 (1,2) - I think you want to redo this blanket.
01:19:056 (1,2) - Again, blue tick new combo is weird, perceived beat of the melody is on the big white tick, redo this bit.
01:20:275 (1,2,3,4) - Are these going to be that visible after 01:19:900 (1) - ? You may wish to reconsider this pattern.
01:25:900 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - dude nobody is going to do this it's effectively a brick wall cmon
01:28:056 (1,2) - Blak blah new combo blah blah perceived melody blah
01:30:400 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel right to do 1/8 here, 1/4 would be just fine.
01:31:150 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I don't think you need a new combo for every object, every other maybe? Just be careful with HP drain, this sort of thing messes it up really bad.
01:33:681 (1,2) - Swap these new combos, easy readability fix.
01:56:931 (1) - That's a really weird beat for the jump to be on.
ehh you can do better than this

[CODENAME_AXION]
This is pretty much past my playing range, so I can't evaluate it too well.
I'll just cover a few things.

00:21:400 (10,1,2) - I think having the new combo on the 10 would make this easier to read. It might not look as pretty, but it'll be way clearer. It'll pair with 00:21:962 (5,6,7) - nicely.
00:31:618 (5,6,1,2) - A bit weird here, have to slow down for the 6 but then do a huge jump in the same direction to the 1? That's really frustrating to do
00:36:587 (3,4) - Unlikely the player will see 3 properly I think, and the jump is pretty rough. Reversing 3 and 4 and playing it safer is a good idea. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342280
00:48:400 (1,2,3,4,1) - Painful movement, I'd get some playtesters to check this bit
00:49:525 (1,2,3,4) - 1/8 sliders seem out of place here, not really much in the music like that. I think a regular 1/4 stream would be good I think this one fits the music well enough
00:54:400 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Brital, I don't think it plays too well though as the music is intense I think making it tricky is fine
01:13:993 (1) - I think you could end the spinner at 01:15:025 - for some nice impact, like in the Another diff.
01:25:900 (1,2,3,4) - The player is going to be stopped for these 1,2 and 3,4, it is incredibly unlikely that they are going to suddenly be able to start moving with each object like 01:26:275 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - , especially not the insane ones like 01:26:930 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - . This is way, way too much. if this got changed then the diff could lose its meaning. btw I don't think it's the hardest part. same for the last part before break
01:30:400 (1,2,3,4,1) - Doesn't feel right to do 1/8 here, 1/4 would be just fine. same as before
01:34:056 (4) - This slider starts very strangely. There isn't too much going on at 01:34:056 - , but there's plenty at 01:34:150 - .
01:34:337 (1,2,3,4) - Crazy jump and movement, I think you should do something easier / simpler.
01:37:900 (7,1) - Swap these new combos, it will make this section easier to read. current one looks better imo
01:38:650 (1,2,3,4) - That's not as bad as the previous but it's still edging on unreasonable. Be careful with this stuff i'll see
more replies coming soon
waiting for hw's reply. thanks for modding!
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Skystar
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Joined May 2011
Skystar
alright, I took this opportunity to improve things that I think could be better, not completely what Charles suggested but that covered a lot of them.

http://puu.sh/mBm4l/9957edb1a4.osu
Hollow Wings
1,514 posts
Joined July 2010
Hollow Wings

Charles445 wrote:

Heya! Good luck on studies.

When you get back, here's a gameplay mod for some stuff, mostly movement and readability.
I'm trying to keep the original intentions of the difficulties intact of course, treating it like I would if it was Lindwurm

[HW's EX]
00:25:900 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders move at a good pace, but players usually take a bit to get started when moving on a slider. It's likely that they'll break on the 1 but not on the 2. A lower slider velocity is usually a good idea in these cases, just so the player doesn't have to worry so much. the pattern is totally ok for playing of course for sure, but according to so much people complain about this, i decide to change it to another style, thou not lower down the sv, but only larger the jump between 1's end and 2's head: now the pattern is much more "easier to you in reading, and maybe in playing as well".
Try 1.70x, it works really well. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341112
00:27:400 (1) - Players usually want to stop moving on repeat sliders and wait for them to finish, for these I think if they moved slower it'd be a lot more intuitive. For the repeat sliders, try 0.90x slider velocity. well 0.1x sv shifting really makes some differences here, it'll give something not same to general players in playing this pattern that at least overlap the repeating sliders' head and end, which i won't do here in this diff.
00:28:712 - 0.90x? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341182 same as above.
00:31:338 (5,1) - Really hard to read, makes this part pretty frustrating and will likely make lots of players upset. i've set 00:27:400 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 's rhythm style to get ready for that pattern, even spacing is tricky here.
00:35:556 (3) - I think raise this a little higher up -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341131 ahh you are right from a flow viewing, thou i still wanna keep the structure (see 00:35:275 (2,3,1) - and 00:36:587 (2) - )
00:36:775 (3) - Since there's a big jump at 00:36:775 (3,1) - maybe try 0.85x here for the repeat -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341193 repeating slider holding thing is similar to the stuff which i've mentioned above.
00:37:525 - 0.90x? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341198 ^ for similar mod.
00:41:181 (2) - Raise this a little bit higher? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341225 moved to 291,269 thou.
00:43:337 (5,1) - So far away, can't see it, haha, maybe down below the 2? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341209 lol, for 5 and 1 are in symm positions, players can see it easily imo, it's just testing aiming here. and also, the part is not requiring an anti-flow, current pattern is fine imo.
00:41:556 (4) - I sliderbreak a lot here, repeat is too fast x_x, maybe 1.10x? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4341239 ^ for similar mod, and actually there's faster in the diff later...
00:45:212 (2) - It's hard to see this slider, maybe have it go the other direction -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342013 true, changed the whole pattern and unlocked the organizations here, remapped this part.
00:49:150 (5) - A new combo here would probably make this easier to read. swap 00:49:525 (1) - 's nc to this note's.
00:50:368 (4) - I think keeping the doubles going would be cool here -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342024 great idea, thou i've set two doubles at 00:49:900 (1,2) - and 00:50:275 (3,4) - , and 00:50:650 (5,6,7,8) - is a series of single pattern, so i decide to not change this.
00:52:665 (3) - Slider is snapped incorrectly. Use 1/4 like the other difficulties i still think the horn's beats snaps at 1/3 ticks... thou changed...
00:53:650 (1,2,3,4) - These are a pain, the sliders are too long to keep moving upwards on, they always sliderbreak. I think you'd want to do something else here. after several trying i insist my choice, the pattern is designed just like that to express the bell track meanwhile.
01:13:525 (1,2) - The distance on these is getting pretty silly, this is 320bpm jumps equivalent, jumps this far are either 100s. 50s, or need insane luck. I'd consider doing an easier pattern for that whole section. i can play the pattern my self, play those patterns is not requiring luck. song's emotion drive me do patterns like that, 1/4 snapped notes can be seen in this diff everywhere, these notes are not double streams, but only another style i set notes like single tapping stuffs.
01:16:056 (3,4,5) - Tough movement for these, it's a lot like 00:53:650 - with possible sliderbreaks. Instead of going against movement completely, try right angles or something -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342070 thou i won't change the general idea of the pattern, still reconstructed those spacings and composing.
01:17:650 (5,6) - Harsh angle again like before, maybe reverse 01:17:837 (6) - so it's like an oval -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342078 changed to another pattern.
01:19:337 (5) - Reverse this so the jump is easier up to the top right? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4342082 ok, but i also reversed 4. the pattern of those series of anti slider jumps can be consistent now.
01:28:337 (5) - Reverse this for the jump? hmm nope.
01:34:525 (1,2) - This is a really big jump for this section x_x lol yeah.
01:36:025 (1,2) - I'd make these easier this is easier than previous ones.
01:37:525 (1,2) - Same as before ^
01:47:650 (3) - Add new combo so it's clear that this isn't a jump fixed.
thank you for your help charles!

HW's EX
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