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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2015-12-12T01:56:37+00:00

poke me after you apply this so I can nitpick

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Riari 2015-12-12T19:07:03+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
poke me after you apply this so I can nitpick

Fixing computer, problems arisen due to power cuts and stuff.

Will apply within a few hours.

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2015-12-12T19:14:48+00:00

Tyrell wrote:
This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

Platter
Opening thoughts: Patterns near the ending is repetitive but not bad so complaints.
00:05:559 (4,5) - Is this supposed to be walkable or dashed? If walkable please reduce it a bit here so it's clear. If it's dash, increase the spacing a bit here so it's clear. - Nerfed the distance on it
00:11:248 (1,2) - Why not make this a 1/2 slider? It would function the same way but make more sense. - Donesies
Song Setup Recommendations: none
Closing Thoughts: Nothing else to really point out, I really like this platter despite hating how slow the song is. Good job Tom. (:

Thanks for the mod babe.

Wizard's Platter

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 27798
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
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WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 3662
DistanceSpacing: 1.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Noi!
TitleUnicode:Noi!
Artist:Kajiura Yuki
ArtistUnicode:梶浦 由記
Creator:Riari
Version:Wizard's Platter
Source:劇場版 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ[新編]叛逆の物語
Tags:gekijouban mahou shoujo madoka*magica [shinpen] hangyaku no monogatari puella magi movie 3 the rebellion story jbhyperion tomthewizard
BeatmapID:814247
BeatmapSetID:352634

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:7.5
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:2

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-13T08:06:36+00:00

Tyrell wrote:
This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

Cup
Opening thoughts: It's a cup
00:20:902 (4) - Ctrl+J, Ctrl+ G, and Ctrl+H this then move it to x:416. Basically do this. This looks and plays a bit better. Intensity of the vocal sound increases as the hold progresses, so it makes more sense for movement to increase towards the end of the note, and not the other way around
00:48:142 (4) - NC here There's already a NC here
Song Setup Recommendations: none

Closing Thoughts: Standard cup, easy and simple. Nice

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Apply this mod as soon as possible so other CMA members can mod this as well. Good luck with this set.

No changes from me, but thanks for taking a look!

Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2015-12-13T11:53:17+00:00

This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

General

Is the background size of this really 1364x767? Make sure that it is 1366x768.

Hyperion's Cup
Opening thoughts: Sometimes this feels a little repetitive pattern-wise, but it's a Cup and has to stay simple. So this shouldn't be a real issue.

00:12:627 (3,4) - This pattern should be a CTRL+H of the previous pattern (00:11:248 (1,2) - ) for symmetrical reasons, for example:
SPOILER
00:20:902 (4) - CTRL+G this slider and move it back to x416 right after to ensure that this pattern won't end on the screen wall. Optionally you need to re-arrange 00:22:281 (1) - slightly to avoid a stacking with the previous note.
00:36:074 (4) - Maybe to at least have a bit of variety from the previous 1/1 sliders add a reverse arrow on this slider at 00:36:418 - , this goes well with the music and gives a great interlude for the second kiai.

Song Setup Recommendations: -

Closing Thoughts: It's a very clean Cup, there is nothing really to complain.

Salad
Opening thoughts: The difficulty is clean, but I point out a very few little spacing issues before.

00:04:007 (5,1) - , 00:06:766 (5,1) - Both of these can still be caught without dashing. Increase the distances slightly and ensure they are only reachable with a dash.
00:10:904 (4,1) - Same as above.
00:21:247 (2,3) - Optionally this could be some dash as well, but this is not so mandatory as the two previous mentioned points.
The whole first Kiai is a little underwhelming, it's easier than the non-kiai section before. You should add some more dashes, for example on the following places (not all of them, just see for yourself which ones you favor the most): 00:28:487 (2,3) - , 00:30:212 (1,2) - , 00:31:246 (3,4) - , 00:32:970 (1,2) -

Song Setup Recommendations: -
Closing Thoughts: Not much to point out. Good work.

Wizard's Platter
Opening thoughts: Nice platter, but I am not a real fan of stacks after Hyperdashes. Personally I prefer rebouncing patterns which lead you back to the center of the screen. Let me sum this up for you: 00:10:904 (4,1,2) - , 00:28:315 (2,3) - (It is like a stack because you don't really feel the curve of the slider), 00:31:074 (3,4) - (same here). The mentioned patterns feel like stacks after the Hyperdashes, just make sure they are curvier and 00:11:248 (1,2) - are no full stucks anymore.

This lacks a bit of movement, feels a little bland. Without destroying the pattern in a whole, try the following instead (or something similar):
SPOILER
00:15:730 (4,5,1) - I prefer a different timeline, there is no real vocal at 00:16:075 - but you actually tried to follow them, now it more is a mixture of rhythm and vocals at the same time. So I suggest to remove this note and do this for example (Only timeline is important, neglect the pattern please):
SPOILER
00:24:005 (5,6,1) - Many will hate me for this suggestion but try this, it's more fun and goes pretty well with the lyrics
SPOILER

Song Setup Recommendations: -
Closing Thoughts: I know the BPM is low, please ask a QAT however before qualify if 1/4 Hypers will be okay in this difficulty. I personally enjoy them but sometimes QATs disqualify due to 1/4 Hypers (mostly in high BPM maps though). Just ask Deif or Kurokami if they are fine with it, please.

Noi
Opening thoughts: Awesome, I loved it. Such a fun difficulty.

00:11:937 (1,2,3,4,5) - Really weird timeline, please try a calmer one. 00:12:110 (2) - isn't really outstanding and should be removed completely. Try this one for instance:
00:25:039 (2,1) - This can be another Hyper as your previous patterns. I think it fits well enough.
00:36:074 (1,2,3) - Distances should be increased drastically between these, it feels too low. There could be a Hyper at 00:36:418 (2,3) - as well. This here plays quite nice:
SPOILER
00:39:521 (3) - For a better flow this note should be to the left from the previous note.

Song Setup Recommendations:

A little questionable to use AR/OD 8,2 here, but welp. I'd go 8,5 just to make it spread-wise more logical. CS3,5 probably fits this better as well, the spread of that would be 2>2,5>3>3,5 then. Makes just more sense.

Closing Thoughts: -

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Good luck with this set.

Really nice map, go go. For rank! ♥

Last edited by Sey 2015-12-13T21:42:35+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Riari 2015-12-13T21:38:10+00:00

Tyrell wrote:
This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

General
Spread looks good but I would suggest reducing the HP drain of each difficulty by 1 and also increasing the CS on the rain to 3.5.
HP is fine, I prefer CS3 in this case.

Salad
Opening thoughts: It's a salad!
00:33:315 (2) - Maybe make this more curved like a "C" Kinda ruins flow the way it is now. I like this how it is, I think it flows fine.
00:39:866 (1) - Why start this on the same side of the screen? It ruins flow. I would move this to the other side of the screen and change the following patterns accordingly. I like the small break it creates, there is no real need for movement here in a Salad and I want to capitalise on that.
00:42:970 (2) - Jump to this is way too large, reduce this to similar spacing used earlier. For example, 00:37:453 (1,2) - spacing similar to those jumps are fine. Changed slightly.
00:45:384 (1) - Once again why start this on the same side and ruin flow? Please move this to the other side of the screen and change the following patterns accordingly Same reason.
00:45:728 (2) - Once again the jump here is too large, reduce it similar to what I stated before. Changed.
00:48:142 (1) - Move this further left for more emphasis for it being the last note. Also NC here please No need for emphasis, it is much less intense than the previous sections. It already has a NC on it.
Song Setup Recommendations: none
Closing Thoughts: It's okay, but the spacing on some jumps is way too harsh for a salad, I highly recommend reducing some jumps as they're too hard for a salad difficulty.

Rain It's not a Rain.
Opening thoughts: Still feel weird having a rain on a song this slow but meh, it's whatever.
00:34:694 (1,2) - I feel like these should either be closer together to be easily walkable or increased spacing so a dash is better. I think it functions fine as a form of mini-snap.
Song Setup Recommendations: none
Closing Thoughts: Not much to say. Most of what I could say is my personal dislike for certain things but it functions fine so I won't bother. Good job on this.

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Apply this mod as soon as possible so other CMA members can mod this as well. Good luck with this set.

Thanks for the mod.

Sey wrote:
This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

Salad
Opening thoughts: The difficulty is clean, but I point out a very few little spacing issues before.
00:04:007 (5,1) - , 00:06:766 (5,1) - Both of these can still be caught without dashing. Increase the distances slightly and ensure they are only reachable with a dash. Done.
00:10:904 (4,1) - Same as above. Done.
00:21:247 (2,3) - Optionally this could be some dash as well, but this is not so mandatory as the two previous mentioned points. I like this how it is. It isn't intense enough for a dash in my opinion.
The whole first Kiai is a little underwhelming, it's easier than the non-kiai section before. You should add some more dashes, for example on the following places (not all of them, just see for yourself which ones you favor the most): 00:28:487 (2,3) - , 00:30:212 (1,2) - , 00:31:246 (3,4) - , 00:32:970 (1,2) - Changed some.
Song Setup Recommendations: -
Closing Thoughts: Not much to point out. Good work.

Song Setup Recommendations: -
Closing Thoughts: I know the BPM is low, please ask a QAT however before qualify if 1/4 Hypers will be okay in this difficulty. I personally enjoy them but sometimes QATs disqualify due to 1/4 Hypers (mostly in high BPM maps though). Just ask Deif or Kurokami if they are fine with it, please.[/notice]

Noi
Opening thoughts: Awesome, I loved it. Such a fun difficulty.
00:11:937 (1,2,3,4,5) - Really weird timeline, please try a calmer one. 00:12:110 (2) - isn't really outstanding and should be removed completely. Changed.Try this one for instance:
00:25:039 (2,1) - This can be another Hyper as your previous patterns. I think it fits well enough. Done.
00:36:074 (1,2,3) - Distances should be increased drastically between these, it feels too low. There could be a Hyper at 00:36:418 (2,3) - as well. Done. This here plays quite nice:
SPOILER
00:39:521 (3) - For a better flow this note should be to the left from the previous note. Done.
Song Setup Recommendations:
A little questionable to use AR/OD 8,2 here, but welp. I'd go 8,5 just to make it spread-wise more logical. CS3,5 probably fits this better as well, the spread of that would be 2>2,5>3>3,5 then. Makes just more sense. I like 8.2 for this, 8.5 seems a bit high for what I'm going for. I'm an avid cs3 fan so I'd like to keep it for this.-
Closing Thoughts: -

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Good luck with this set.

Really nice map, go go. For rank! ♥

Thanks for the mod.

Updated!

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2015-12-13T23:42:00+00:00

I have been summoned.

This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

General

why is this map not named poi

Note Spread

Currently, Wizard's Platter has more notes than the highest diff, Noi. Although the Maximum Combo is less, and it's not generally a bad thing, it's just something to point out.

Hyperion's Cup
Opening thoughts: e

00:14:006 (5) - Does this really call for the clap hitsound on it? ;w; It sounded a bit weird to me but you're the expert here.
00:25:729 (2,3,4) - If you find a way to flip this around, I feel like it would flow (lol cup + flow) much better into 00:27:798 (1) -
00:48:142 (1,1) - Not a problem to me but this has been brought up recently \:D/

Song Setup Recommendations: nonE

Closing Thoughts: map spook

Salad
Opening thoughts: xd

00:07:455 (2,3) - I feel like some more dynamic could be added to this. Move 3 to x:220?
00:33:315 (2) - This plays pretty much like a vertical slider
Starting at this section here 00:27:798 (1,2) - I feel like these could be dashed to. It is the kiai time and these can all be caught without dash currently. It happens throughout the kiai time, but not all of them need to be dashes I guess. I think adding some dashes would really add to this though.

Song Setup Recommendations: nonE
Closing Thoughts: moar dash but not too much =w=

Wizard's Platter
Opening thoughts:e

Modding after update by Riari.

Song Setup Recommendations:
Closing Thoughts:

~~Noi~~ Poi
Opening thoughts: poi

00:22:625 (2) - I think this distance is a bit far. Either move it a bit closer to the previous note or turn it into a hyperdash will make it play a bit better.
00:36:418 (2) - ctrl+g'ing this might help this pattern a bit more, the way it plays as of now is a bit tricky.

Song Setup Recommendations: I know you really want to keep AR8.2, but I really consider bumping it just a little, I felt 8.4 played a little nicer to play.
Closing Thoughts: Wasn't really much to say about this diff, really nice!

After everything is applied (and after my mod of the platter) we'll see if we can call in a BN/QAT for you c:

Last edited by Ascendance 2015-12-14T03:12:20+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-14T00:26:34+00:00

Sey wrote:
This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

Hyperion's Cup
Opening thoughts: Sometimes this feels a little repetitive pattern-wise, but it's a Cup and has to stay simple. So this shouldn't be a real issue. Not too much I can do about the rhythm at this difficulty, but I did change the flow a little in the kiai sections to provide more variety
00:12:627 (3,4) - This pattern should be a CTRL+H of the previous pattern (00:11:248 (1,2) - ) for symmetrical reasons, for example:
SPOILER
This wasn't quite similar enough to really justify the repetition, so sure, symmetry it is. Also Ctrl+H'ed 00:14:006 (5) to maintain spacings
00:20:902 (4) - CTRL+G this slider and move it back to x416 right after to ensure that this pattern won't end on the screen wall. Optionally you need to re-arrange 00:22:281 (1) - slightly to avoid a stacking with the previous note. Declined the Ctrl+G for reasons explained in the previous mod response, but did move all of 00:19:178 (2,3,4,1,2) to the left slightly to keep movement away from the wall
00:36:074 (4) - Maybe to at least have a bit of variety from the previous 1/1 sliders add a reverse arrow on this slider at 00:36:418 - , this goes well with the music and gives a great interlude for the second kiai. Nice suggestion, consider it done
Song Setup Recommendations: -

Closing Thoughts: It's a very clean Cup, there is nothing really to complain.

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Good luck with this set.

Really nice map, go go. For rank! <span class="EmojiInput mj230" title="Black Heart Suit ♥"></span>

Ascendance wrote:
I have been summoned.

This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

General

Hyperion's Cup
Opening thoughts: e

00:14:006 (5) - Does this really call for the clap hitsound on it? ;w; It sounded a bit weird to me but you're the expert here. I think it fits with the sharp, punchier vocal sound here, but I noticed it broke consistency with 00:17:454 (5) - a whistle doesn't sound bad here at all, so I'll change this
00:25:729 (2,3,4) - If you find a way to flip this around, I feel like it would flow (lol cup + flow) much better into 00:27:798 (1) - Antiflow (or something approaching it in a Cup diff lol) is used onto the slider 00:27:798 (1) to emphasize the start of the kiai more
00:48:142 (1,1) - Not a problem to me but this has been brought up recently \:D/ Fun fact - the wording in that rule change proposal was worded by yours truly, so I'm breaking my own rule proposal here. I'm going to be even more hypocritical and claim that in this instance, I feel the 1/2 spacing is acceptable, both due to the low BPM, and the 1/1 pause from 00:47:108 (3) - which should give even complete beginners ample time to read and make the note/spinner distinction Perhaps that fits better as a guideline anyway? /me runs
Song Setup Recommendations: nonE

Closing Thoughts: map spook

Thanks for the helpful mods, both of you!

Cup-date

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rip my perfect 1.00* SR ;w;

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2015-12-14T00:35:07+00:00

Sey wrote:
Wizard's Platter
Opening thoughts: Nice platter, but I am not a real fan of stacks after Hyperdashes. Personally I prefer rebouncing patterns which lead you back to the center of the screen. Let me sum this up for you: 00:10:904 (4,1,2) - , 00:28:315 (2,3) - (It is like a stack because you don't really feel the curve of the slider), 00:31:074 (3,4) - (same here). The mentioned patterns feel like stacks after the Hyperdashes, just make sure they are curvier and 00:11:248 (1,2) - are no full stucks anymore. Alright, I've done some funky (ugly) little slider shapes to try get these to curve a bit more, not so certain it's had much of an impact though.
This lacks a bit of movement, feels a little bland. Without destroying the pattern in a whole, try the following instead (or something similar): - Ooh I like this, though I moved (1) and (3) a grid to the right as I felt the spacing was a little high.
SPOILER
00:15:730 (4,5,1) - I prefer a different timeline, there is no real vocal at 00:16:075 - but you actually tried to follow them, now it more is a mixture of rhythm and vocals at the same time. So I suggest to remove this note and do this for example (Only timeline is important, neglect the pattern please): - I blame the singer ;_; Did as you suggested with the timeline and changed the pattern so it still worked.
SPOILER
00:24:005 (5,6,1) - Many will hate me for this suggestion but try this, it's more fun and goes pretty well with the lyrics - I'm a bit torn on this one. I do like how your suggestion plays and it does fit nicely but I feel it's at odds with the rest of the difficulty. I've avoided using 1/2 hypers for most of it so I'm gonna leave it alone in the name of consistency or atleast in the name of my own stupidity.
SPOILER
Song Setup Recommendations: -
Closing Thoughts: I know the BPM is low, please ask a QAT however before qualify if 1/4 Hypers will be okay in this difficulty. I personally enjoy them but sometimes QATs disqualify due to 1/4 Hypers (mostly in high BPM maps though). Just ask Deif or Kurokami if they are fine with it, please. - I'll get Riari on this, can't imagine it'd be a no at this bpm... if it is then say hello to Wizard's Salad.

Thanks for the mod!

Wizard's Platter

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Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Riari 2015-12-14T07:44:54+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
I have been summoned.

This is a CTB Modding Association mod. If you want your map checked and modded by the CMA, go to this link

General

why is this map not named poi That would be incorrect metadata.

Note Spread
Currently, Wizard's Platter has more notes than the highest diff, Noi. Although the Maximum Combo is less, and it's not generally a bad thing, it's just something to point out. I generally focus more on specific slider usage, the max combo is higher so this shouldn't be a problem.

Salad
Opening thoughts: xd

00:07:455 (2,3) - I feel like some more dynamic could be added to this. Move 3 to x:220? Changed.
00:33:315 (2) - This plays pretty much like a vertical slider Looks cooler though.
Starting at this section here 00:27:798 (1,2) - I feel like these could be dashed to. It is the kiai time and these can all be caught without dash currently. It happens throughout the kiai time, but not all of them need to be dashes I guess. I think adding some dashes would really add to this though. Added some.
Song Setup Recommendations: nonE
Closing Thoughts: moar dash but not too much =w=

~~Noi~~ Poi
Opening thoughts: poi

00:22:625 (2) - I think this distance is a bit far. Either move it a bit closer to the previous note or turn it into a hyperdash will make it play a bit better. Changed.
00:36:418 (2) - ctrl+g'ing this might help this pattern a bit more, the way it plays as of now is a bit tricky. I like this how it is, it's pretty fun to play.
Song Setup Recommendations: I know you really want to keep AR8.2, but I really consider bumping it just a little, I felt 8.4 played a little nicer to play. Sold.
Closing Thoughts: Wasn't really much to say about this diff, really nice!

After everything is applied (and after my mod of the platter) we'll see if we can call in a BN/QAT for you c:

~~Placeholder for mod, must go learn first.~~

Learning complete and so is mod application.

Thanks for the mod.

Updated.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2015-12-14T21:13:58+00:00

No kds, modding logs for Wizard's Platter

poi

2015-12-14 15:47 Ascendance: I am summoned once again
2015-12-14 15:48 Ascendance: To mod your Salatter
2015-12-14 15:48 TomTheWizard: Bathe in the glory of it's mighty 2 and a bit stars
2015-12-14 15:49 Ascendance: It was a heavenly experience
2015-12-14 15:49 Ascendance: I had some stuff but your map was updated and then I realized I'm an idiot
2015-12-14 15:49 Ascendance: so we'll start from scratch
2015-12-14 15:49 TomTheWizard: :D
2015-12-14 15:50 Ascendance: 00:09:869 (1) - provides little movement from 00:09:524 (7) -, I think moving it to the left would be beneficial
2015-12-14 15:51 Ascendance: maybe moving it directly on top of where 00:10:559 (3) -  is
2015-12-14 15:52 TomTheWizard: yeah that looks good to me
2015-12-14 15:53 Ascendance: You wanna keep the 1/3 Hdash here right? 
2015-12-14 15:53 Ascendance: 00:17:972 (5,1) - 
2015-12-14 15:54 Ascendance: err not 1/3 but you get my point
2015-12-14 15:54 TomTheWizard: lol
2015-12-14 15:55 TomTheWizard: yeah I'd like to keep it
2015-12-14 15:55 Ascendance: Ok, I'd suggest moving 00:17:972 (5,1) - to x:176 then, so that way (1) falls at the end of the playing field so there is less room for error
2015-12-14 15:56 TomTheWizard: is that distance ok so close to the "wall" though?
2015-12-14 15:57 Ascendance: It should be okay, but I'll get some confirmation real quick
2015-12-14 15:57 Ascendance: While I ask about it, I suggest creating some movement here 00:32:970 (4,1) - 
2015-12-14 16:03 TomTheWizard: sorry for the silence, I havent died just trying a bunch of stuff
2015-12-14 16:03 Ascendance: Okay, 00:18:144 (1) - at x:496 should be acceptable
2015-12-14 16:03 Ascendance: Np lol, weird we sent at the same time
2015-12-14 16:04 TomTheWizard: alright, got 00:18:144 (1) - at x:496
2015-12-14 16:04 Ascendance: Alright
2015-12-14 16:04 Ascendance: 00:17:972 (5) - at x:192 will compliment it well
2015-12-14 16:04 Ascendance: and after we fix that part earlier where the catcher stays still on a transition note, that's all I have
2015-12-14 16:08 TomTheWizard: 00:17:972 (5) - i've put that at x:176 instead
2015-12-14 16:08 TomTheWizard: x:192 feels just a bit too far from (4) to me
2015-12-14 16:08 Ascendance: Hmm alright
2015-12-14 16:09 TomTheWizard: http://puu.sh/lVCkM/1e21f2524a.jpg
2015-12-14 16:09 TomTheWizard: and that's what I've done for 00:32:970 (4,1) -
2015-12-14 16:10 Ascendance: looks good to me :D
2015-12-14 16:10 Ascendance: Riari says to poke him on Discord because osu! eats up his fps or something
2015-12-14 16:10 Ascendance: I'll post the logs in thread for references
2015-12-14 16:10 TomTheWizard: What a baddie
2015-12-14 16:11 TomTheWizard: Yeah thanks for you help :D
2015-12-14 16:11 TomTheWizard: your help*
2015-12-14 16:11 Ascendance: Np! If you guys need anything more or if you need a last quick check before we send in a BN, let me know so we can send in another person to nitpick
2015-12-14 16:11 TomTheWizard: I can england :)
2015-12-14 16:12 TomTheWizard: alright thanks again

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2015-12-14T21:17:40+00:00

And here's the updated platter in all it's glory : )

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Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Riari 2015-12-14T21:26:54+00:00

Updated.

Kurokami

osu! Alumni

4,024 posts

Joined February 2010

Kurokami 2015-12-22T10:15:44+00:00

Hey

[Salad]

00:04:697 (2,3) - Why no jump here? It has the same sound as 00:02:973 (2) - yet there is a jump but not here. Plus, it would be nice to jump here. /o/
00:30:212 (1,2) - The distance here is quite high which could still be acceptable but nowhere else used again. The higher distance was ~3.70 at the sounds with same power as this. I suggest you to lower this to that level as well to avoid the sudden left dash which might cause miss.

[Platter]

00:02:800 (3,4) - Can you add here a small jump? It would be nice to follow the sound but feel free to disagree if you want to keep the pattern.

The NCs are really inconsistent, its like they are trying to follow both the vocal and music but this looks really bad. I'm not going to point out where they are instead tell you to where they should be. You have two possible choice to NC the difficulty, either using one at every main (1st) beat and nowhere else or using at both 1st and 3rd tick (which is the best if you want to follow the melody). Its up to you. /o/

[Platter]

00:24:349 (1,2) - Actually, its possible to stop the movement of the catcher a bit before reaching (2) which can cause miss easily. I suggest to move (2) a bit back to right to avoid this and solve the case.
00:36:763 (3,1) - The distance here might be a little bit high and sudden. It would be nice to lower it a little bit.
[]

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Riari 2015-12-22T14:11:44+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Hey

[Salad]

00:04:697 (2,3) - Why no jump here? It has the same sound as 00:02:973 (2) - yet there is a jump but not here. Plus, it would be nice to jump here. /o/ Done.
00:30:212 (1,2) - The distance here is quite high which could still be acceptable but nowhere else used again. The higher distance was ~3.70 at the sounds with same power as this. I suggest you to lower this to that level as well to avoid the sudden left dash which might cause miss. Done.

[Platter]

00:24:349 (1,2) - Actually, its possible to stop the movement of the catcher a bit before reaching (2) which can cause miss easily. I suggest to move (2) a bit back to right to avoid this and solve the case. Done.
00:36:763 (3,1) - The distance here might be a little bit high and sudden. It would be nice to lower it a little bit. Done.
[]

Thanks for the mod.

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

SUBSTAC9 2015-12-22T15:51:59+00:00

Nice song Good Luck!

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2015-12-22T21:26:54+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Hey Hi ^_^

[Platter]

00:02:800 (3,4) - Can you add here a small jump? It would be nice to follow the sound but feel free to disagree if you want to keep the pattern. - Mehhhhh, I refused this in a previous mod before as I felt it played a bit too funky just adding a jump in... however! I changed the pattern up so I feel it plays better and there's a little jump for the folks back home to enjoy.

The NCs are really inconsistent , its like they are trying to follow both the vocal and music but this looks really bad. I'm not going to point out where they are instead tell you to where they should be. You have two possible choice to NC the difficulty, either using one at every main (1st) beat and nowhere else or using at both 1st and 3rd tick (which is the best if you want to follow the melody). Its up to you. /o/ - Got some help with this, should be sorted.

[]

Thanks for the mod

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Riari 2015-12-22T21:27:12+00:00

SUBSTAC9 wrote:
Nice song Good Luck!

Thanks!

Updated.

Bunnrei

1,044 posts

Joined May 2011

Bunnrei 2015-12-23T06:23:46+00:00

[Platter]

00:07:455 (2,3) - Increase spacing.
00:27:798 (1,2) - ^
00:30:556 (1,2) - ^
00:32:453 (5,6) - ^
00:39:349 (5,6) - ^
00:40:211 (1,2) - ^
00:44:866 (5,6) - ^

[Salad]

00:32:970 (1,2) - Probably a little bit too big of a jump, reduce.

all that I found :3

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2015-12-23T19:24:18+00:00

Ster wrote:
[Platter]
00:07:455 (2,3) - Increase spacing. - Made (2) into two circles instead of a slider then increased the spacing of 00:07:455 (2,3,4) -
00:27:798 (1,2) - ^ - Moved a grid space to the left
00:30:556 (1,2) - ^ - Moved a grid space to the right! What a plot-twist
00:32:453 (5,6) - ^ - Moved 00:32:453 (5) - a grid to the right
00:39:349 (5,6) - ^ - Spacing and such should be consistent with above now
00:40:211 (1,2) - ^ - Moved a teeny bit to the right
00:44:866 (5,6) - ^ - And made a tiny increase here

all that I found :3

Thanks for the mod!

EDIT: Riari is bad, pls remove kds from this post.

Wizard's Platter

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Last edited by Sorceress 2015-12-23T20:31:45+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Riari 2015-12-23T19:29:41+00:00

Ster wrote:
[Salad]
00:32:970 (1,2) - Probably a little bit too big of a jump, reduce. Done.

all that I found :3

Thanks for the mod.

Updated.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-23T20:33:47+00:00

TomTheWizard wrote:
EDIT: Riari is bad, pls remove kds from this post.

Done o/

Kurokami

osu! Alumni

4,024 posts

Joined February 2010

Kurokami 2015-12-24T14:52:37+00:00

Looks fine to me. Good luck. o/

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2015-12-26T08:23:01+00:00

as request

General

any metadata proof? since im not familiar with this kind stuff lol

Cup

00:45:728 (2) - i'd like to give a bit more movement (actually just my personal taste) like http://puu.sh/m9aCi/f6937c25d5.jpg so from "nya" "nya" lyric you need to move a bit your ryuuta to catch them all

Salad

00:02:283 (1) - nazi but can remove nc here since 1 combo only in previous looks like too short
00:07:455 (2) - just my suggestion, how about move to x:344 so those 1/2 spacing on 00:07:455 (2,3) - would look more consistent
00:30:556 (2) - i feel the jump is a bit far so i think we still can make it easier, how about x:148?
00:42:970 (2) - reason same as above, x:416
00:38:142 (2) - i dont know you want to make this as dash or not? if you want to make dash then this slider still can caught w/o dash, if not then i'd suggest to reduce the spacing a bit since kinda hard to catch this w/o dash

Platter

since the bpm is low and your cs is big so i'd like suggest to use AR OD 7
00:09:869 (3,4) - i cant get why you do jump on (4) which has low music and normal spacing on (3) which has strong music (until you add hitsound), i'd like suggest (3) x:472 and (4) x:336
00:12:627 (5) - clap on head as you can hear the drum sound
00:12:972 - remove whistle and add whistle in 00:13:316 - as you can hear the snare sound
00:16:075 - gonna skip big drum music? ;________________________;
00:18:144 (1) - i'd say x:432 so you can make 1/4 hdash easier here. if u agree then happy remake 00:18:488 (2) - and etc :p
00:22:625 (2) - x:144 so you can give movement to emphasize vocal ;w; , if you agree then 00:22:970 (3) - x:248 to keep consistent spacing
00:40:901 (3) - i'd say x:352 to make easier hdash here. if you agree then 00:41:418 (4) - x:272 to make at least better spacing

Rain

00:48:142 (1) - i'd say x:380 here. at least give a mini jump for last note
00:37:797 - 00:38:487 - 00:40:556 - 00:41:246 - 00:43:315 - 00:44:004 - 00:46:073 - 00:46:763 - 00:28:143 - 00:28:832 - 00:30:901 - 00:31:591 - 00:33:659 - i think better to not skip map all of them because they have much important beats like drums or guitar snares

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Riari 2015-12-26T17:21:50+00:00

Xinely wrote:
as request

General
any metadata proof? since im not familiar with this kind stuff lol Copied from the ranked set.

Salad
00:02:283 (1) - nazi but can remove nc here since 1 combo only in previous looks like too short I think it's very fitting and I'd like to keep it.
00:07:455 (2) - just my suggestion, how about move to x:344 so those 1/2 spacing on 00:07:455 (2,3) - would look more consistent Done.
00:30:556 (2) - i feel the jump is a bit far so i think we still can make it easier, how about x:148? Done.
00:42:970 (2) - reason same as above, x:416 Done.
00:38:142 (2) - i dont know you want to make this as dash or not? if you want to make dash then this slider still can caught w/o dash, if not then i'd suggest to reduce the spacing a bit since kinda hard to catch this w/o dash Done.

Rain
00:48:142 (1) - i'd say x:380 here. at least give a mini jump for last note Done.
00:37:797 - 00:38:487 - 00:40:556 - 00:41:246 - 00:43:315 - 00:44:004 - 00:46:073 - 00:46:763 - 00:28:143 - 00:28:832 - 00:30:901 - 00:31:591 - 00:33:659 - i think better to not skip map all of them because they have much important beats like drums or guitar snaresIt's consistently like this throughout the map, focusing more on the vocals than the drums or snares, no changes.

Thanks for the mod.

Updated with my changes.

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2015-12-26T18:09:40+00:00

Xinely wrote:

Platter
since the bpm is low and your cs is big so i'd like suggest to use AR OD 7 - I'll leave this to Riari to decide, though I do think 7.5 works quite well.
00:09:869 (3,4) - i cant get why you do jump on (4) which has low music and normal spacing on (3) which has strong music (until you add hitsound), i'd like suggest (3) x:472 and (4) x:336 - Ok I've changed up this bit so there's a dash to (3) and not to (4) and I think I've got it to work, though honestly I do feel it played well before. I didn't go for your suggestion as I felt it was lacking in movement, something pointed out in a previous mod in this section which led to how it is now.
00:12:627 (5) - clap on head as you can hear the drum sound - This sounds out of place to me, though I know next to nothing when it comes to hitsounding ;_; I checked the other diffs and none have a clap sound here so I'll ask Riari to check it.
00:12:972 - remove whistle and add whistle in 00:13:316 - as you can hear the snare sound - Again, I'm not certain on this but checking other difficulties this would be inconsistent? #Riariwillfixit
00:16:075 - gonna skip big drum music? ;________________________; - ;_; Added a happy little note right here 00:16:075 (6) -
00:18:144 (1) - i'd say x:432 so you can make 1/4 hdash easier here. if u agree then happy remake 00:18:488 (2) - and etc :p - Slapped (1) to x:432 and adjusted the parts afterwards.
00:22:625 (2) - x:144 so you can give movement to emphasize vocal ;w; , if you agree then 00:22:970 (3) - x:248 to keep consistent spacing - So I moved 00:22:625 (2) - to x:208 to avoid a jump after a hyper, then adjusted the notes after for some consistent spacing. It's near enough what you suggested
00:40:901 (3) - i'd say x:352 to make easier hdash here. if you agree then 00:41:418 (4) - x:272 to make at least better spacing
- More blue text hype! Moved (3) to x:352 but gave it more of a curve so the slider end is to the right of (4) as I didn't want to lose that little hop to (5).

Thanks for the mod!

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64,144,37453,6,0,P|32:112|32:48,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,80,37970,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,96,38142,2,0,L|368:144|400:192,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,96,38832,2,0,L|80:96,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,160,39349,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,160,39521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,208,39866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,224,40211,6,0,L|48:176|32:128,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,144,40728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,40901,2,0,P|376:168|352:112,1,90
312,96,41418,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,96,41590,2,0,L|112:160,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,42280,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,192,42625,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,192,42970,6,0,L|336:192,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,144,43487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,144,43659,2,0,L|32:48,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,144,44349,2,0,L|176:96,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,48,44866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,48,45039,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,48,45384,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,128,45728,6,0,L|416:48,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,48,46246,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,96,46418,2,0,L|80:32,1,90
336,64,47108,2,0,L|432:64,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,112,47625,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,112,47797,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,112,48142,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,48487,12,0,52625,0:0:0:0:

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2015-12-26T18:17:26+00:00

Thanks for the check Xinely! (:

@Riari, I'm away visiting family for a few days and won't be able to respond to this - since it's only one small point on my diff, feel free to accept or deny as you see fit. No sense in holding things up for a relatively minor change.

Good luck!

Riari

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Riari 2015-12-26T21:28:59+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Thanks for the check Xinely! (:

@Riari, I'm away visiting family for a few days and won't be able to respond to this - since it's only one small point on my diff, feel free to accept or deny as you see fit. No sense in holding things up for a relatively minor change.

Good luck!

On it.

Xinely wrote:

Cup
00:45:728 (2) - i'd like to give a bit more movement (actually just my personal taste) like http://puu.sh/m9aCi/f6937c25d5.jpg so from "nya" "nya" lyric you need to move a bit your ryuuta to catch them all
I find it fine to play, the movement is nice for a cup and seems to be like that throughout the difficulty.

Not changing the AR in Tom's diff, it's consistent and I'd rather keep the spread how it is.

Updated.

Xinely

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Xinely 2015-12-27T14:53:50+00:00

let's see what will happen ~

Riari

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Riari 2015-12-27T14:55:12+00:00

Eagerly awaiting the Deif scarepost.

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2015-12-27T15:19:22+00:00

Nice

Riari wrote:
Eagerly awaiting the Deif scarepost.

Deif usually DQs maps that I qualify; since I didn't qualify this it should be fine xD
/me runs

Riari

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Riari 2015-12-27T15:56:30+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Nice

Riari wrote:
Eagerly awaiting the Deif scarepost.
Deif usually DQs maps that I qualify; since I didn't qualify this it should be fine xD
/me runs

No, the scarepost is where you see the red name post but it's just him saying grats.

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-Sh1n1- 2015-12-28T21:31:41+00:00

Best of lucks Riari, the set looks fine, don't worry, Gratz *-*/

ZiRoX

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ZiRoX 2016-01-01T17:05:53+00:00

Riari wrote:
Pending I guess.

Qualified I guess.

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Riari 2016-01-02T17:36:59+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Riari wrote:
Pending I guess.
Qualified I guess.

I can't be bothered changing it.

Kurokami

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Kurokami 2016-01-03T03:50:06+00:00

Congrats. o/

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