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Rameses B - Mountains (feat. Veela)

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Topic Starter
-Tochi

Quiesce wrote:

The bpm and offset are ever so slightly off.
BPM: 174.940
Offset: 216
Delete Map > Download Map > Fixed!
Quichey

-Tochi wrote:

Quiesce wrote:

The bpm and offset are ever so slightly off.
BPM: 174.940
Offset: 216
Delete Map > Download Map > Fixed!
Worked, thanks.
BPM still slightly off. 174.973 is my latest value.
Chaoslitz
Recheck
  1. 00:54:988 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is still not loud enough to space the streams, you didn't map it in the kiai parts with a stronger and louder music, so it contradicts with the song

Call me back once you have fixed this!
Chaoslitz
Looks good to go.

Bubble #2
Aka
i dont think so


i'd also like to mod it before this moves to qualified, if you dont mind
zz
Topic Starter
-Tochi

Aka wrote:

i dont think so


i'd also like to mod it before this moves to qualified, if you dont mind
zz
Sure!
Yoshimaro
Not sure if already addressed, but I find that the entire mapset is 1/4 off beat in the offset (86 ms), can I have someone confirm, fix, or tell me im retarded? because 3 things

#1: 86 ms offset fix speaks for itself (rip xD)
#2: my audio system is messed up (idk it works for other maps perfectly lol)
#3: change inherited and timing points?

sry again if this has already been addressed but I honestly love this beatmap and really want to see it ranked <3

Edit: jk im blind
Topic Starter
-Tochi
Hello - Yoshimaro -
Have you tried to delete the map, and then download the map again?
That should fix your problem, this usually happens when the map gets a new .mp3
If you haven't noticed, i wrote it on the map's description. :)
Aka
asdfasdaffsaf reminder
Topic Starter
-Tochi

Aka wrote:

i dont think so


i'd also like to mod it before this moves to qualified, if you dont mind
zz
I fixed the normal-hitwhistle.wav~
Dreamtwolf
what updated today??? 12/5/15 or December the 5th
Topic Starter
-Tochi

Dreamtwolf wrote:

what updated today??? 12/5/15 or December the 5th
What do you mean? I updated the day before December
Dreamtwolf

-Tochi wrote:

Dreamtwolf wrote:

what updated today??? 12/5/15 or December the 5th
What do you mean? I updated the day before December
Sorry I guess it's my bad. My studies should go second lol.
Chaoslitz


What is this
Topic Starter
-Tochi

Chaoslitz wrote:



What is this
Oh yeah, i will delete it, "gammel" means old in Danish, so it's not useful anymore..
Topic Starter
-Tochi
Ok done
Updated
Chaoslitz
Rebubbled due to request
Hinsvar
log
13:29 -Tochi: hello o/
13:30 Hinsvar: o/
13:32 -Tochi: tell me when you want to do the irl :o
13:32 Hinsvar: oh
13:32 Hinsvar: yeah right
13:32 Hinsvar: I can do it right now
13:33 -Tochi: oh, ok
13:33 -Tochi: wait
13:33 -Tochi: hvick is playing my map D:
13:34 Hinsvar: oh
13:34 Hinsvar: wow
13:41 -Tochi: im ready now xD
13:42 Hinsvar: 00:47:359 (6,1) - Is this spacing really necessary?
13:42 Hinsvar: lel
13:42 -Tochi: i already considered that one, and im fine with it
13:43 -Tochi: it was worse before tho, because it was bigger
13:43 Hinsvar: Well okay, I can understand what do you want to do there.
13:44 Hinsvar: 00:59:874 (6) - But I'm sure there's nothing you can map to here...
13:44 Hinsvar: Sounds way more natural to play with the note removed
13:44 Hinsvar: uh feels
13:44 -Tochi: i fixed it :D
13:46 Hinsvar: 01:17:102 (2) - There's also nothing on the blue tick btw
13:46 Hinsvar: Making this feels really forced to play
13:46 Hinsvar: I know it'd ruin the pattern but uh
13:46 Hinsvar: It's really awkward right now honestly
13:48 -Tochi: hmm
13:48 -Tochi: is there a chance for it to keep it if i mute that part?
13:49 -Tochi: i tried to replace it with a single note, but it's hard to make the flow good xD
13:50 Hinsvar: Maybe just add a repeat for 01:16:931 (1) - ?
13:51 -Tochi: oh wait, i found a way: http://puu.sh/m1dyi/1088f65a12.jpg
13:51 -Tochi: is thak ok?
13:54 Hinsvar: Maybe curve those on the right
13:54 Hinsvar: to the right
13:54 Hinsvar: uh sorry can we continue this later
13:54 Hinsvar: I have to be a tourney ref rn
13:54 Hinsvar: so uh
13:54 Hinsvar: sorry
13:54 Hinsvar: will be back in 90 mins max probs
13:56 -Tochi: sure xD
13:56 Hinsvar: cool then
15:36 -Tochi: btw
15:36 -Tochi: which tournament is it? :D
15:36 Hinsvar: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/189907/start=0
15:36 Hinsvar: Indonesian
15:36 -Tochi: oh
15:36 -Tochi: oki
15:36 Hinsvar: actually I'm just done with the ref thingy
15:36 *Hinsvar is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/713190 Rameses B - Mountains (feat. Veela) [Mountain]]
15:37 -Tochi: oh ok
15:38 Hinsvar: 01:38:874 (3) - Curve it slightly to the point where it's symmetrical with 01:39:045 (4) - ?
15:38 Hinsvar: Or you know
15:38 Hinsvar: copy-paste (4) and rotate it by 180 degrees
15:39 Hinsvar: just for the aesthetics and very slight flow improvement
15:39 Hinsvar: up to you on this one
15:39 -Tochi: it looks better, so why not
15:41 Hinsvar: 01:55:674 (5,6,7) - might as well space them like 01:54:645 (1,2,3,4) - to avoid inconsistency
15:41 Hinsvar: 01:56:359 (1,2) - this should be ok
15:42 -Tochi: fixed
15:42 Hinsvar: 02:26:188 (1) - Remove the repeat since there's nothing to follow at 02:26:359 - ?
15:42 Hinsvar: 02:28:931 (1) - Also add a repeat to follow that last stronger note?
15:43 -Tochi: fixed the first
15:44 -Tochi: but the second one sounds kinda out of space with the extra repeat
15:44 -Tochi: because the sound is so weak
15:45 Hinsvar: I dunno I feel that it actually sounds the strongest from the string of notes here
15:45 Hinsvar: well ok
15:46 Hinsvar: 03:18:302 (1) - just food for thought: sure you don't want to follow the 1/3s?
15:49 Hinsvar: 04:59:787 (1) - you know what to do here
15:49 -Tochi: like: http://puu.sh/m1inr/496617a349.jpg
15:49 -Tochi: i changed the slider here 03:18:817 - to 1 circle
15:50 -Tochi: 03:18:988 - *
15:50 -Tochi: since there's no sound here 03:19:159 -
15:50 -Tochi: i faxed the last thing u mentioned too ^^
15:50 Hinsvar: 03:18:559 - there is no sound here so you can't end 03:18:302 (1) - like that
15:51 Hinsvar: it has to be snapped to 03:18:531 -
15:51 Hinsvar: 1/3
15:51 Hinsvar: or just use a 1/3 repeating slider I dunno
15:51 Hinsvar: just don't use 1/4 there
15:53 Hinsvar: oh
15:53 Hinsvar: 04:17:959 (1,3,4,5,6,1) - don't you think they're too close
15:56 Hinsvar: that'd be all
15:56 -Tochi: oki
15:56 -Tochi: fixed everything expect the those i didn't
15:56 Hinsvar: update once you're done
15:57 Hinsvar: uh wait
15:57 Hinsvar: one last thing
15:57 Hinsvar: back to 00:47:359 (6,1) -
15:57 Hinsvar: I think this is
15:58 Hinsvar: a one-time occurence in the entire map
15:58 Hinsvar: are you really sure about this since there's nothing special with the music there
15:58 Hinsvar: it can be jarring to play knowing that only happens once with nothing noticeable in particular with it on the song
15:59 Hinsvar: just thought I'd let you think about it
15:59 -Tochi: ok
15:59 -Tochi: i will fix it :d
15:59 -Tochi: :D
15:59 Hinsvar: sure
16:00 Hinsvar: well ok update if you're done with all the stuff
16:00 Hinsvar: I can qualify after this
16:00 -Tochi: ok :o
16:02 -Tochi: i updated it ^^
16:05 Hinsvar: uh sorry I disconnected
16:06 Hinsvar: can you give me the logs
16:06 Hinsvar: lol
16:06 Hinsvar: 03:18:302 (1) - also this has to be snapped to 1/3

holy shit this is fun tbh
Ciyus Miapah
wow this is fun tbh
-Zeraora

Hinsvar wrote:

holy shit this is fun tbh
Congrats
meii18
nice gratz -Tochi! :D
Topic Starter
-Tochi
Thanks! ♪((●>ω<)っ)))´、ゝ`)
Mint
Yes, full version!
Congrats :3
Exote
holyyyyyyy mai god congrats tochi, finally 8-)
Tenderz
eeey. congratz :D
FCL
tbh this map is good
You did it, gratz
Secretpipe
nice to see the full ver approved o/
Topic Starter
-Tochi

appleeaterx wrote:

Yes, full version!
Congrats :3

Exote wrote:

holyyyyyyy mai god congrats tochi, finally 8-)

Tenderz wrote:

eeey. congratz :D

FCL wrote:

tbh this map is good
You did it, gratz

Secretpipe wrote:

nice to see the full ver approved o/
Yay, full version \:D/
And thanks :>
SrSkyPlayer
gratz for it!
Dreamtwolf
Congratulations!!!! :) :D
Asphyxia
Pulling this away from Qualified state due to the map lacking quality-wise.

[Mountains]
We talked with -Tochi in-game already before this, but basically the difficulty is VERY overmapped and this alone needs heavy fixing throughout the difficulty. Just because the overmapping is done consistently, doesn't mean it should be acceptable. Here's few examples of the issue:
  1. 00:32:617 (2,3,4) -
  2. 01:08:702 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - really overmapped, if you listen closely, you can hear that none of the blue tick notes are supported by the music, should be plain 1/2
  3. 01:17:959 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
  4. 01:41:959 (3,4,5,6) -
  5. 03:06:988 (3,4,5,6) -
Second issue is that the patterns in general are really messy and arbitrary. There's a lot of them that could be improved that would increase the overall quality by a lot, with simple fixes. I'll point few here again:
  1. 01:38:188 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,1) -
  2. 01:49:159 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  3. 03:26:874 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
  4. 02:52:245 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
Third issue is that because you used so many different kinds of slider shapes, the sliders themselves don't compliment each other anymore at all, and that just makes the map look really bad. Usually, it's better to stick with some slider shapes that look similar, so that they can compliment each other better. Few examples where you could've made the shapes more similar or just sticked with something more simple:

  1. 00:22:759 (1,2,3,1) -
  2. 00:51:902 (3,4) -
  3. 01:33:045 (1,1,1,6) -
  4. 02:59:102 (1,3) -
As stated above, I talked to -Tochi before this disqualification, basically stating the exact same problems, and he agreed with me, partially at least. Don't take this the wrong way but I also want to add that just because a map is extremely fun, unique or interesting doesn't mean it automatically makes it a good, quality beatmap for ranking. Anyhow, best of luck with the re-qualificiation!
Topic Starter
-Tochi
I basically just have to remap everything with this old verison in the description to them who like this more lol
Irreversible
I second Asphyxias disqualification, this needs more improvement to suit the rankable state.
Unforgiven
No words....
Topic Starter
-Tochi
It's hard to remap the map with the same kinda essence.. so I'll fix all the overmapped parts, and remake some more "simple" sliders, and fix some patterns and jumps, then it should be ready for some mods...
Hinsvar
did I just miss a massive amount of overmapping and bad patterns and

whoa I need to get shit done right

Feel free to poke me back (or not).

EDIT: Although for 00:32:617 (2,3,4) it is only the last blue tick that is overmapped but I think I'm ok with the DQ
Secretpipe
I knew it ahah anyway ;_;

gl for rerank
Topic Starter
-Tochi

Hinsvar wrote:

did I just miss a massive amount of overmapping and bad patterns and

whoa I need to get shit done right
I think I'm ok with the DQ.

Feel free to poke me back (or not).

Secretpipe wrote:

I knew it ahah anyway ;_;
Hisnvar: Yes probably did, me too xD This old map will get improved, so thanks for letting me call u back ^^

Secretpipe: i had the feeling too ahaha
Topic Starter
-Tochi
Ok, fixed all the things you wanted, now modding time QAQ

Secretpipe wrote:

gl for rerank
Thanks :)
NVAN
Hello! :D

IRC Chatlog
2015-12-26 21:39 XeroiZi HD: Hi :D
2015-12-26 21:40 -Tochi: hello :D
2015-12-26 21:40 XeroiZi HD: Since you ask for an NM and you're here, I can give you somethings that i found here
2015-12-26 21:40 XeroiZi HD: Note that I'm not a good modder
2015-12-26 21:40 XeroiZi HD: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/713190 Rameses B - Mountains (feat. Veela) [Mountain]]
2015-12-26 21:40 -Tochi: oh, ok
2015-12-26 21:43 XeroiZi HD: 01:12:817 (4) - I think you need to move it to x:304 y:188
2015-12-26 21:43 XeroiZi HD: The end slider of 01:12:131 (1) - closing the view of 01:12:817 (4) -
2015-12-26 21:43 XeroiZi HD: So it gives some player a distraction views
2015-12-26 21:44 -Tochi: oh yeah
2015-12-26 21:44 XeroiZi HD: Especially for normal type skin users :D
2015-12-26 21:44 XeroiZi HD: (You can use me as an example)
2015-12-26 21:44 -Tochi: it was a mistake :D
2015-12-26 21:45 -Tochi: well
2015-12-26 21:45 -Tochi: i could also stack it
2015-12-26 21:45 XeroiZi HD: It depends on yourself
2015-12-26 21:45 XeroiZi HD: As long the 4 isn't blocked by that 1 slider end
2015-12-26 21:45 -Tochi: the followpoints helps people to track down the next note, so it should be fine ^^
2015-12-26 21:46 XeroiZi HD: It is
2015-12-26 21:46 -Tochi: with the stack
2015-12-26 21:46 XeroiZi HD: But just my consideration of what I afraid
2015-12-26 21:46 -Tochi: like here 01:18:645 (6,3) - xD
2015-12-26 21:46 -Tochi: yeah
2015-12-26 21:47 XeroiZi HD: xD
2015-12-26 21:49 XeroiZi HD: 02:43:159 (2) - You better move it somewhere else or make it stack each other
2015-12-26 21:49 XeroiZi HD: Since it's 1/2
2015-12-26 21:49 XeroiZi HD: It's diffrent than 02:40:588 (3,4) -
2015-12-26 21:50 -Tochi: i stacked it :)
2015-12-26 21:50 XeroiZi HD: Not stack it like that...
2015-12-26 21:50 XeroiZi HD: I mean like this...
2015-12-26 21:50 XeroiZi HD: http://puu.sh/m9bRA/0642cbdd2d.jpg
2015-12-26 21:50 XeroiZi HD: There
2015-12-26 21:51 -Tochi: yes
2015-12-26 21:51 -Tochi: but
2015-12-26 21:51 -Tochi: http://puu.sh/m9bTL/07fc660882.png
2015-12-26 21:51 -Tochi: i removed the other notes after the downbeat
2015-12-26 21:52 XeroiZi HD: Ah, okay
2015-12-26 21:52 XeroiZi HD: I understand
2015-12-26 21:52 -Tochi: fits better imo
2015-12-26 21:52 XeroiZi HD: You don't say
2015-12-26 21:52 XeroiZi HD: XD
2015-12-26 21:52 -Tochi: because i don't map after the voice there
2015-12-26 22:00 XeroiZi HD: I don't see anything really troubling anymore
2015-12-26 22:00 XeroiZi HD: :o
2015-12-26 22:01 -Tochi: oh, nice
2015-12-26 22:01 -Tochi: you can post this on the thread as irc
2015-12-26 22:01 XeroiZi HD: 01:47:788 (1,2,1,2) - Wait, what the heck is this? XD
2015-12-26 22:01 -Tochi: you helped me fix one or two things, so it should be fine ^^
2015-12-26 22:01 XeroiZi HD: This pattern is just funny
2015-12-26 22:01 -Tochi: oh lol
2015-12-26 22:01 -Tochi: its a jump xD
2015-12-26 22:01 XeroiZi HD: And tbh, people will think it's a NC'd streams
2015-12-26 22:02 -Tochi: back and forth jump
2015-12-26 22:02 XeroiZi HD: Just look at01:47:788 (1,1) -
2015-12-26 22:02 XeroiZi HD: XD
2015-12-26 22:02 XeroiZi HD: #bruh
2015-12-26 22:02 -Tochi: xD
2015-12-26 22:02 -Tochi: well, the not after the first NC comes first
2015-12-26 22:02 XeroiZi HD: I'm as mapper for 2 years never think that before XD
2015-12-26 22:02 XeroiZi HD: Yeah
2015-12-26 22:02 -Tochi: so it should be clear to see that it's a 1/2 pattern
2015-12-26 22:02 XeroiZi HD: But some might be fooled
2015-12-26 22:03 XeroiZi HD: So try to pay attention at that pattern
2015-12-26 22:03 -Tochi: oki
2015-12-26 22:03 -Tochi: i might change if more people mentions it
2015-12-26 22:03 XeroiZi HD: That pattern is just... lol XD
2015-12-26 22:04 -Tochi: xD
2015-12-26 22:04 XeroiZi HD: 02:29:788 (2) - I think you could stll put a circle here?
2015-12-26 22:05 XeroiZi HD: Maybe not
2015-12-26 22:05 XeroiZi HD: XD
2015-12-26 22:05 XeroiZi HD: I think that just feels too pushy
2015-12-26 22:05 -Tochi: oki
2015-12-26 22:06 XeroiZi HD: You can do it if you want XD
2015-12-26 22:06 -Tochi: nah, i'll keep it like this ^^
2015-12-26 22:08 XeroiZi HD: How much SPs that this map has?
2015-12-26 22:09 -Tochi: 44 :o
2015-12-26 22:09 -Tochi: but
2015-12-26 22:09 -Tochi: i remade most parts
2015-12-26 22:09 -Tochi: almost remapped
2015-12-26 22:09 -Tochi: so let's say that it has 0 xD
2015-12-26 22:09 XeroiZi HD: No wonder it's kinda hard
2015-12-26 22:09 XeroiZi HD: Re-mapped songs are likely bare to be modded
2015-12-26 22:09 -Tochi: it was qualified, but got DQed and had to fix many things
2015-12-26 22:09 XeroiZi HD: Don't worry, I ever did that too


[Other Things That I Found]
  1. 04:21:902 (2) - This object touches the HP Bar

I can't find anything else D:
See ya! :D
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