Strategas wrote:

alright lets do this

[Veela <3]

00:22:759 (1) -kinda yuck, you can improve 00:23:274 (2,3) - blanket if you make them equaly distanced at blanket range. uh not sure how to explain lol This can't be fixed that well without changing the second slider, so i'll keep it.
00:24:817 (1,1,1) - this makes your whole beginning rather inconsistent as these are the only sliders you emphasize through velocity changes, though I don't find them to be that strong compared to the rest
now I looked at it again and found it even more weird that you only follow the vocals in the beginning. from 00:25:502 (1) - you start to finally follow the beat which imo you should do at the beginning aswell. Fixed!
00:25:502 (1,2,3) - so um you start this patern then suddenly switch to 00:26:188 (1,2) - 00:26:702 (1,2) - rather continue doing 00:25:502 (1,2,3) - with the slider and stacking thing, it will just make more sense and be more consistent and will make your patern structured and complete. The two parts are different, thats why i changed pattern.
00:27:559 (2) - then you can start new combo here after you change the above. also the only thing this slider achieves is asthetic thing, but flow wise you don't even follow it because of 00:27:902 (3) - It's to avoid the "too close" inconsistency, also i think the flow is just fine here.
00:28:759 (4,1) - kinda looks weird since it doesn't really blanket, but almost does it. and if you turn stacking on you'll see it's not so nice Better avoid making 1/2 sliders too curvy to fit with my style.
00:32:702 (3) - you could possibly make this into at 3/4 slider to follow the intrument there as you do with your other sliders I'll keep it like it is, because there's a sound on the first circle in the triple.
00:35:959 (2) - suddenly you change what you follow with the sliders, why? there's nothing on this beat that is so important unless I'm deaf. 00:36:817 (5) - 00:37:159 can use 1/4 slider here aswell. It's mostly to avoid the boring repeats, and i don't think it's much trouble. And for the other part to add, i follow the vocal, so it would be a bit random imo.
00:41:445 (2) - can try to make use of this slider be blanketed by the stream before Not really the big blanket master, but i like it like this when it's stacked.
00:41:959 (7) - move this 1 pixel left please now it really bugs me xd Fixed!
00:45:045 (2) - fits much better as slider to follow the wub whatever thing. Not really wub on this part, there's already plenty of 3/4 sliders. xD
00:45:902 (1) - slider looks off, rather use something like 00:47:788 (1) - Fixed!
00:49:845 (5,6) - 01:06:302 (2,3) - you know if you made these sliders at the same angle it would look much better atm 00:49:845 (5) - looks kinda crap lol, it's to make the flow better.
00:51:388 (1) - uh well slider end on strong beat. I know you follow the vocal, but can't ignore it As you said, following the vocal.
00:51:902 (3,4,5) - don't think these slider look that well together, try using another combination Wat, they look fine in my eyes.
00:56:359 (4) - 01:01:674 (3) - strange you emphasize this beat instead of 00:56:531 (5) - 01:02:017 (5) - considering this patern 00:59:274 (3) - is emphasized the most. also regarding 01:01:502 (2,3,6,7) - one of them you emphasize hard the other stack, Will consider this.
01:09:131 (2) - overmap Fixed!
01:11:445 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - these two bursts can be better emphasized if the second one is more spaced (or first one less) Fixed!
01:11:445 (1,1) - blanket off Fixed!
01:15:217 (4) - clap slider end Whistle slider end*
01:19:845 (6) - emhpasis and flow is destroyed on this drum beat with the stack Fits with the vocal.
01:28:245 (2,1) - blanket? Intentionally not.
01:31:331 (1) - meh just use the same shape as 01:30:302 (2) - Boring =.=
01:34:074 (1) - so here you increase sv, but 01:31:331 (1) - decrease uhh. The first one is more obvious in the music.
01:31:845 (2) - this is spaced so much for no reason Fixed a bit..
01:39:559 (1) - this one looks better than the rest of these type you used Thanks lol
01:40:931 (2,3) - these don't blanket that well Fixed!
01:42:044 (4,6) - I think I saw this in the dq but yea overmap Fixed!
01:42:302 (1,4,6,1) - blankets at different range don't look that appealing Still like it as it is.
01:54:388 (6,8) - more overmap Fixed!
01:56:188 - 01:58:931- kind of empty Fits with the music.
01:56:359 (1,2) - could try putting these objects elsewhere to make it less crowded there Will break the flow.
01:59:102 (2,3,4) - the 1/4 and 1/2 gap look almost the same, better make it more obvious Fixed!
02:01:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - not exactly sure what you follow here, but I think you can follow it in a more interesting way. same for the later part I follow the main beat.
02:34:759 (1,2,3) - I think you could use this patern more in this section Naah, don't need to ^^
02:47:102 (2) - random clap on slider end, you didn't use before or later Fixed!
03:03:217 (1) - there's a whistle on the whole slider Fixed!
03:08:188 (4,5,6,7) - emphasis is not very consistant Fixed!
03:19:331 (5) - nc if you do it here 03:20:702 (1) - Removed that NC.
03:50:702 - if I follow your logic correctly there should be a 1/4 slider here aswell Nope
04:21:559 (2) - this jump could be smaller for a better build up it's hand straining atm Fixed!

there's a lot of unnecessary overlaping, which makes a lot of paterns look too messy, too many tbh to point them out. I guess 90% of them are intentional to make it more interesting and challenging.

I can see you put a lot of work in this map and it's really fun, however these days map asthetics are more important than gameplay to rank a map, so make sure you fix those so people can enjoy playing your map when it's ranked. Also sorry for any gramatical mistakes or dumb sentences since I'm really sleepy lol. Good luck! Thanks!

Rameses B and Veela are the best couple btw xdxdxdxd

1. The beatmap is good, but I feel lots of problems with consistency in note placements, as this is a DnB marathon map, one of the main things that are REALLY important, is the aesthetics and looks of the map that must feel really clean and have a nice flow, which often feels wrong in this map for me (I'm NOT saying it's a bad map, it's an awesome map, I'm just emphasizing that it could be better), so the suggestions I'll give below aren't something like ''This is bad, change.'' but something more like ''I think this can be improved if you (insert comment here)'', So I hope this mod helps you <3

1. 00:22:759 (1,2,3) - I get the impression that this was supposed to be a blanket, but the shape of 1 doesn't really make any sense with 2 and the little overlap on 3 IMO is useless and bad because it doesn't even is balanced in his curve...so I highly suggest you adjust shape of 1 or 1 and 3.
   
2. 00:24:302 (4) - This could've been stacked on the start of 00:22:759 (1) - for more consistency in note placements. If you apply this, you could also rotate 00:24:817 (1) - -25° Clockwise with selection centre(and adjust next notes) so it doesn't touch previous location of 00:24:302 (4) - . OR you could also make his curve to the left, so this whole section have a cleaner look Like this for example
   
3. 00:30:645 (4) - If you place it somewhere like x:248 y:164, you have a much flow-friendly and cleaner look on this section, which also will have a cleaner and better motion of the jumps to 00:30:988 (1) - As you can clearly see here, and if you do that, you could also use the curve from 00:30:988 (1) - to blanket the note 4(of course you'll need to adjust its position slightly), making this shape less random and giving it more purpose to the whole pattern, AND that would also remove the location overlap with 00:31:502 (3) - that imo was random and little ugly >.<
   
4. 00:40:074 (5) - You could either stack this already with the tail from 00:39:217 (1) - or just place a bit higher the entire pattern, both would make it a bit more clean and structured
   
5. 00:41:188 (8,1) - This ending moment of stream, would look a bit more consistent if you place the stream in a position where these notes could stack with the previous location from 00:39:902 (4) - , in this case, minor adjustments from the previous pattern could do it easily
   
6. 00:41:445 (2) - place a bit more higher for a better blanket Like this?
   
7. 00:46:931 (5) - This makes the pattern look a bit messy because it overlaps too much with the locations from 00:47:445 (1,1) - and the blanket isn't right with 00:47:102 (6,7,8,9) - . So I would suggest you adjust the direction that 00:46:417 (3) - is facing, than place 00:46:759 (4,5) - in better positions where they don't seem messy
   
8. 00:47:445 (1,1) - Although I understand that 00:47:788 (1) - Makes a blanket with 00:48:474 (4) - . It looks messy because his tail makes we thing that it's blanketed with 00:47:102 (6,7,8,9) - , but it's not, and his shape constrasts with 00:47:445 (1) - which doesn't look good, so I highly suggest you adapt this >.<
   
9. 00:49:159 (3) - It overlaps a little the previous location from 00:48:302 (3) - and makes it look a bit messy, so I suggest you place this a bit more to the right or anywhere you feel like
   
10. 00:49:331 (4) - This would have a better flow and better look if you just stack ir already with 00:48:474 (4) -
    
11. 00:49:502 (1,2,3,4,5) - This could've been blanketed better with 00:48:988 (2) - , and I also suggest you place 00:48:645 (5) - a bit higher so it doesn't touch the position of the notes on the stream, will give a much a cleaner look
    
12. 00:50:017 (6) - Just an suggestion...what do you think if you make a slight curve in this so it will make a little blanket with the stream? Will not change a lot in gameplay, but will surely look more sexy. 00:49:845 (5) - Could also have a curve, but for the opposite side (the side where the stream is facing)
    
13. 00:50:188 (1) - You could either stack it with 00:49:331 (4) - or just place it more to the left for a cleaner look
    
14. 00:50:702 (3) - Why not just stack with any of the notes from the stream? making it more clean
    
15. 00:51:388 (1) - I know that you stacked his tail with the head of the other slider, but the strong curve that it forces on aim seems a bit way too forced imo. Maybe stack his head instead? will make a more open curve which is way more aim-friendly and also have a more constant DS. That would also remove the useless overlap of positions with 00:52:245 (4) - which makes it look kinda random
    
16. 00:52:245 (4) - Maybe just stack it already with 00:51:217 (6) - ? Would still have the same DS as 00:52:588 (5,6) - and would also look more polished
    
17. 00:53:274 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This looks really messy, a simple way of making it more clean is by repositioning 00:53:617 (3,4,6) - a bit , so it looks more polished Like this ?
    
18. 00:54:302 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again, for a better looking, you could place it more below so it doesn't overlaps with the previous position from 00:53:274 (1) - which also looks useless...You could make the stream start at x:80 y:228 for example
    
19. 00:57:217 (4) - move it just a bit to the left so it doesn't overlaps with the position of 00:56:188 (3) -
    
20. 00:57:731 (6) - The tail of this slider overlaps a lot with the positions from 00:56:874 (1,2,3) - which makes it look reallllyy messy and random...there are plenty of space available in the playfield, so strong and random overlaps like this makes it look really ugly and unpolished, which imo DnB maps (specially the long ones) must have at maximum, which is clean patterns and polished placements...One good way of solving this, is by positioning 00:57:731 (6,1) - more below and make the head of 1 stack with the old triplets Like this (ignore the single note 4 randomly placed in the corner xD) but that would require you to adjust the other notes, especially the note 4
    
21. 00:58:759 (1) - stack it's tail with the head of 00:58:074 (1) - already? his overlap is useless xD
    
22. 00:59:959 (1) - stack his tail with tail from 00:58:759 (1) - ?
    
23. 01:01:159 (1) - blanket his start with the stream? this pattern suggests an blanket, but there are no blankets
    
24. 01:05:445 (1) - Stack tail with 01:05:102 (4) - ? the little overlap will be gone and it will give more clean look
    
25. 01:08:874 (7,8) - Move both to the right for more clean look? Like this?
    
26. 01:09:902 (5) - Place a bit higher to remove the useless overlap with 01:09:045 (8) - ?
    
27. 01:10:931 (3,5) - adjust their positions to something Like this for more clean look? Tail from 5 is stacked with the single note 01:10:074 (6) - and 3 is placed just a bit more below
    
28. 01:12:131 (1,4) - Fix blanket

Seto Kousuke wrote:

[Overall]

1. The beatmap is good, but I feel lots of problems with consistency in note placements, as this is a DnB marathon map, one of the main things that are REALLY important, is the aesthetics and looks of the map that must feel really clean and have a nice flow, which often feels wrong in this map for me (I'm NOT saying it's a bad map, it's an awesome map, I'm just emphasizing that it could be better), so the suggestions I'll give below aren't something like ''This is bad, change.'' but something more like ''I think this can be improved if you (insert comment here)'', So I hope this mod helps you <3

[Montanhas]

1. 00:22:759 (1,2,3) - I get the impression that this was supposed to be a blanket, but the shape of 1 doesn't really make any sense with 2 and the little overlap on 3 IMO is useless and bad because it doesn't even is balanced in his curve...so I highly suggest you adjust shape of 1 or 1 and 3. Fixed!
   
2. 00:24:302 (4) - This could've been stacked on the start of 00:22:759 (1) - for more consistency in note placements. If you apply this, you could also rotate 00:24:817 (1) - -25° Clockwise with selection centre(and adjust next notes) so it doesn't touch previous location of 00:24:302 (4) - . OR you could also make his curve to the left, so this whole section have a cleaner look Like this for example Remade this whole part.
   
3. 00:30:645 (4) - If you place it somewhere like x:248 y:164, you have a much flow-friendly and cleaner look on this section, which also will have a cleaner and better motion of the jumps to 00:30:988 (1) - As you can clearly see here, and if you do that, you could also use the curve from 00:30:988 (1) - to blanket the note 4(of course you'll need to adjust its position slightly), making this shape less random and giving it more purpose to the whole pattern, AND that would also remove the location overlap with 00:31:502 (3) - that imo was random and little ugly >.< Fixed!
   
4. 00:40:074 (5) - You could either stack this already with the tail from 00:39:217 (1) - or just place a bit higher the entire pattern, both would make it a bit more clean and structured Feels like it would be awkward to play, so I'll keep this.
   
5. 00:41:188 (8,1) - This ending moment of stream, would look a bit more consistent if you place the stream in a position where these notes could stack with the previous location from 00:39:902 (4) - , in this case, minor adjustments from the previous pattern could do it easily Same as above.
   
6. 00:41:445 (2) - place a bit more higher for a better blanket Like this? Inconsistent spacing for the next stream.
   
7. 00:46:931 (5) - This makes the pattern look a bit messy because it overlaps too much with the locations from 00:47:445 (1,1) - and the blanket isn't right with 00:47:102 (6,7,8,9) - . So I would suggest you adjust the direction that 00:46:417 (3) - is facing, than place 00:46:759 (4,5) - in better positions where they don't seem messy This pattern is triangle pattern, it plays well, and it fits well imo. So I'll keep it like it already is.
   
8. 00:47:445 (1,1) - Although I understand that 00:47:788 (1) - Makes a blanket with 00:48:474 (4) - . It looks messy because his tail makes we thing that it's blanketed with 00:47:102 (6,7,8,9) - , but it's not, and his shape constrasts with 00:47:445 (1) - which doesn't look good, so I highly suggest you adapt this >.< Doesn't make sense to change this part, it will only ruin it more lol.
   
9. 00:49:159 (3) - It overlaps a little the previous location from 00:48:302 (3) - and makes it look a bit messy, so I suggest you place this a bit more to the right or anywhere you feel like Fixed!
   
10. 00:49:331 (4) - This would have a better flow and better look if you just stack ir already with 00:48:474 (4) - The jump would be bigger which doesn't fit very well.
    
11. 00:49:502 (1,2,3,4,5) - This could've been blanketed better with 00:48:988 (2) - , and I also suggest you place 00:48:645 (5) - a bit higher so it doesn't touch the position of the notes on the stream, will give a much a cleaner look Doesn't really play well, even if it will look at bit cleaner.
    
12. 00:50:017 (6) - Just an suggestion...what do you think if you make a slight curve in this so it will make a little blanket with the stream? Will not change a lot in gameplay, but will surely look more sexy. 00:49:845 (5) - Could also have a curve, but for the opposite side (the side where the stream is facing) Nah, not i like it when it's more straight than curved.
    
13. 00:50:188 (1) - You could either stack it with 00:49:331 (4) - or just place it more to the left for a cleaner look Already stacking with something.
    
14. 00:50:702 (3) - Why not just stack with any of the notes from the stream? making it more clean Fixed!
    
15. 00:51:388 (1) - I know that you stacked his tail with the head of the other slider, but the strong curve that it forces on aim seems a bit way too forced imo. Maybe stack his head instead? will make a more open curve which is way more aim-friendly and also have a more constant DS. That would also remove the useless overlap of positions with 00:52:245 (4) - which makes it look kinda random I like it better as it is.
    
16. 00:52:245 (4) - Maybe just stack it already with 00:51:217 (6) - ? Would still have the same DS as 00:52:588 (5,6) - and would also look more polished Really awkward.
    
17. 00:53:274 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This looks really messy, a simple way of making it more clean is by repositioning 00:53:617 (3,4,6) - a bit , so it looks more polished Like this ? Fixed!
    
18. 00:54:302 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again, for a better looking, you could place it more below so it doesn't overlaps with the previous position from 00:53:274 (1) - which also looks useless...You could make the stream start at x:80 y:228 for example The overlap is intentional.
    
19. 00:57:217 (4) - move it just a bit to the left so it doesn't overlaps with the position of 00:56:188 (3) - Kinda fixed..
    
20. 00:57:731 (6) - The tail of this slider overlaps a lot with the positions from 00:56:874 (1,2,3) - which makes it look reallllyy messy and random...there are plenty of space available in the playfield, so strong and random overlaps like this makes it look really ugly and unpolished, which imo DnB maps (specially the long ones) must have at maximum, which is clean patterns and polished placements...One good way of solving this, is by positioning 00:57:731 (6,1) - more below and make the head of 1 stack with the old triplets Like this (ignore the single note 4 randomly placed in the corner xD) but that would require you to adjust the other notes, especially the note 4 First of all, the overlap is intentional (most overlaps are.) and second of all, it will make the spacing harder which is unnecessary for this part of the song.
    
21. 00:58:759 (1) - stack it's tail with the head of 00:58:074 (1) - already? his overlap is useless xD Uh, intentional.
    
22. 00:59:959 (1) - stack his tail with tail from 00:58:759 (1) - ? Fixed!
    
23. 01:01:159 (1) - blanket his start with the stream? this pattern suggests an blanket, but there are no blankets Yes, no blankets.
    
24. 01:05:445 (1) - Stack tail with 01:05:102 (4) - ? the little overlap will be gone and it will give more clean look Intentional overlap.
    
25. 01:08:874 (7,8) - Move both to the right for more clean look? Like this? Nah, fits fine here.
    
26. 01:09:902 (5) - Place a bit higher to remove the useless overlap with 01:09:045 (8) - ? Intentional.
    
27. 01:10:931 (3,5) - adjust their positions to something Like this for more clean look? Tail from 5 is stacked with the single note 01:10:074 (6) - and 3 is placed just a bit more below Well, this is also intentional, and i like it like as it is.
    
28. 01:12:131 (1,4) - Fix blanket Fixed!

So...I decided to stop right here because stuff like these were happening over and over and over again...sorry if I sounded rude at some point or looked like I'm trying to ''impose on you something''....it's just that lots of times the patterns looked messy and randomly placed...So based on all the stuff I pointed out above, if you at least agrees with 1 of them, search the entire map because they'll appear again other times...You can improve a lot of patterns to make them look more clean and polished without even changing the pattern at all, just by adjusting a little some notes. This would give the map a waaay more polished and clean look, which makes DnB maps what they are x]

I hope this helps you <3

Secretpipe wrote:

Mountain Dew

Aeril wrote:

hi m4m xd love your maps tochi Thanks x)
(most of these are going to be nazi aesthetic things xd) pls don hurt me

1. 00:52:588 (5,6) - why is this so spaced compared to the rest of the section? It's equally spaced lol
2. 01:09:045 (8,1) - why is this so close compared to the rest of the section? xd Fixed!
3. 02:35:445 (1,2) - why is this NCd? its part of the same notes as the combo before Fixed!
4. 02:37:159 (1) - maybe stack on 02:37:502 (2) to match 02:35:102 (3,1) or unstack 02:35:102 (3,1) - to fit the style of the rest of this section They're both unstacked?
5. 03:11:445 (1,2) - why these so close unlike the rest of the section? There's a part right after that, that's the same lol.
6. 03:12:045 (4,5) - ^ Same, also the rhythm on these are different from the others which can confuse players, so it's better to keep the spacing smaller here.
7. 03:19:331 (1) - why NC? still same notes NC, and removed NC many times on this in many mods xD I think i'll remove it..
8. 03:22:074 (6) - i think this looks better either stack or spaced a bit further than how close it is now Both too extreme lol.
9. 03:23:788 (1,1) - maybe make these parallel Intentional, i like it like this.
10. 03:31:674 (1,1) - ^ Same as above.
11. 03:32:874 (5) - move to y=76 so it comes straight off? Nah, kinda looks bad imo.
12. 05:28:244 (3) - NC maybe like 05:27:216 (1)? Fixed!
13. 05:29:273 (3) - ^

my god though this map plays so well

Yoges wrote:

[Mountain]

1. 00:28:502 (2,3) - Like these are 1/4 and you have a lot of other notes in this section that are 1/2 so why not lower the ds down to like 0.4x-0.3x and create something more stream like? It's not that hard to see that it's a small triple.
2. 00:32:702 (3,4) - Yeah that can be very easily mistaken for a 1/4 because you've stacked the 4 with the 2 and the 3. For an easy fix I'd just do something like what i suggested for 00:28:502 - and put an NC on the 4. Same as above, the 1/3 are much more spaced, so it would be random to make a small spaced 1/2 at this part.
3. 00:33:731 (1,2,3) - Like the 1 and 3 are both repeat sliders which lead me to mistake the 2 for a repeat slider. You also have a few streams in this section which causes a lot of confusion with the rhythm because you're trying to follow the vocals, high hats, drums and synths. General rule of thumb when making stuff like this, mix streams with kick sliders or repeats with streams, don't mix all three at once, remap this section following that rule and you'll find it's a lot easier to follow everything in the music that way. I'd suggest applying that to any other sections like this in the map. I will consider this, but i will keep it as it is because: Remember this is an Expert difficulty, it's allowed to map to everything as long as it fits and isn't overmapped, so i will highly keep this. I might change mind if a BN/QAT mentions it.
4. 01:44:359 (3) - NCs on all SV changes Fixed!
5. 01:47:274 (4,1) - Flow's a bit sharp and uncomfortable here. I'd just Ctrl+J the 1 and put it back where it was Did it on purpose, i think it plays better that way and less confusing imo.
6. 01:56:017 - Why're you ignoring the stream notes here? They're extremely low, and it feels weird to play it with streams there.
7. 03:28:588 (1,2,3) - That is just, like no one's going to be prepared for that. you're going from fast kick sliders suddenly to a much slower 1/2 triplet. I'd just turn those notes into a repeat. I don't see the problem here tbh, i've seen many people play it with success.
8. 04:44:702 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - The kick sliders here don't play very fluidly. There's not really much room to make it more fluidly here.

Zexous wrote:

good stuff here

Dreamtwolf wrote:

Star!

1. 00:26:617 - bigger circles should move faster to give a nice visual effect
2. 00:35:102 - It would also look nice if these mountains would be getting bigger slowly
3. 01:11:490 - These dots flying from the bottom should fade away because they disappear in an instant and it looks unsightly
4. 01:30:988 - For white.png you should use additive-color blending to give a nice effect. If you dont know how to do that, check this tutorial: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Storyboard_Scripting_Commands
5. 01:50:702 - Very nice effect! I love it
6. 02:12:045 - Why not continue this chain of red circles to the end of the stream?

1. 00:20:445 (1) - I would start this spinner from 00:20:702 -
2. 00:28:759 (4) - I cant see reason why is this curved that way. Straight line flows better imo
3. 00:30:645 (4) - Try to move it to (333,203)
4. 00:37:502 (8) - Ctrl + G because you made these sliders similar to the previous ones except this one
5. 00:47:788 (1) - Red tick is more audible than the blue one imo
6. 01:41:959 (3) - It needs more emphasize. 01:41:617 (1,2) - It so extreme but you suddenly slow down 01:41:788 (2,3) - here
   01:48:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The second jump should be more spaced than the first because the intensiveness of the song raises here
7. 02:17:959 - Weird snapping here, im pretty sure there is a new BPM point but im bad at setting them
8. 02:19:073 (1) - Reverse arrow is quite unexpected here and you didn't use it on further similar patterns which made me confusing when plaing
   
9. 02:48:474 - Why slow down here? The tempo is pretty constant from 02:48:131 - this part. Also applies to next sliders
10. 02:54:302 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This part should use the same DS. The change of intensiveness between 02:54:559 (4,1) - these notes is barely noticeable if even.
11. 03:17:274 (1,2) - The SV is sooo small compared to the tempo of the previous stream. It looks unsightly
12. 04:15:731 (6) - Move to (151, 370)

Exile- wrote:

M4M

[Storyboard]

1. 00:26:617 - bigger circles should move faster to give a nice visual effect Uh, idk how to change it ;;
2. 00:35:102 - It would also look nice if these mountains would be getting bigger slowly I think it looks fine as it is now
3. 01:11:490 - These dots flying from the bottom should fade away because they disappear in an instant and it looks unsightly I was wondering why the guy who made the tool for these didn't apply a Fade options.
4. 01:30:988 - For white.png you should use additive-color blending to give a nice effect. If you dont know how to do that, check this tutorial: Fixed!https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Storyboard_Scripting_Commands
5. 01:50:702 - Very nice effect! I love it Thanks!
6. 02:12:045 - Why not continue this chain of red circles to the end of the stream? Sure

[Mountain]

1. 00:20:445 (1) - I would start this spinner from 00:20:702 - The pause there is too big
2. 00:28:759 (4) - I cant see reason why is this curved that way. Straight line flows better imo It's the same as the last slider, so it fits as a pattern.
3. 00:30:645 (4) - Try to move it to (333,203) Adjusted it.
4. 00:37:502 (8) - Ctrl + G because you made these sliders similar to the previous ones except this one That will just break the flow
5. 00:47:788 (1) - Red tick is more audible than the blue one imo didn't follow the vocals here..
6. 01:41:959 (3) - It needs more emphasize. 01:41:617 (1,2) - It so extreme but you suddenly slow down 01:41:788 (2,3) - here Fixed!
   01:48:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The second jump should be more spaced than the first because the intensiveness of the song raises here It's not that much intense to be more spaced.
7. 02:17:959 - Weird snapping here, im pretty sure there is a new BPM point but im bad at setting them There probably should be, but the BNs are fine with it as it is since it's not overmapped.
8. 02:19:073 (1) - Reverse arrow is quite unexpected here and you didn't use it on further similar patterns which made me confusing when plaing Because this is the first part with this rhythm.
   
9. 02:48:474 - Why slow down here? The tempo is pretty constant from 02:48:131 - this part. Also applies to next sliders The temp from the first slider is slower in my ears
10. 02:54:302 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This part should use the same DS. The change of intensiveness between 02:54:559 (4,1) - these notes is barely noticeable if even. Fixed!
11. 03:17:274 (1,2) - The SV is sooo small compared to the tempo of the previous stream. It looks unsightly Making it bigger here is kinda in the way, and easier to sliderbreak.
12. 04:15:731 (6) - Move to (151, 370) Too far away.

The map is really awesome and has pretty nice storyboard.
I'm looking forward to see it ranked
Good luck!

1. 00:17:274 (1,1) - Would make more sense to start the second spinner at 00:21:474 so it goes with the vocals perfectly.
2. 00:22:759 (1) - I can't really understand the clap spam that starts here, it does not fit, why not use a softer hitsound to spam while maintaining the claps for when it's really needed?
3. 00:29:959 (5,1) - I'd stack those and 00:30:645 (4,5) - those, as it goes really well with the stack you did at 00:29:274 (1,2) -
4. 00:32:017 (5,1) - Can't really say I am a fan of this pattern, as it feels like it was put without much thought of the play-aspect, as it looks well and interesting, the movement between those feels bland and too forceful for me, especially because of the strong instrument on the head, a change in position I could suggest is ctrl+> and placing the slider like that: http://puu.sh/nItlS/346e175f38.jpg which makes a quick cut to the opposite direction, obviously changes to the following pattern is needed if you're gonna accept something like that as it is simply an example.
5. 00:33:731 (1,2,3) - The whole streamy section is pretty cool, although I think you can and should reposition those, they look arbitrary in terms of placements, alignments and such >.>
6. 00:42:045 (1) - Why not stop the spinner at 00:43:159, and then map the ringing sounds or something? There's a significant note and the vocal ends there.
7. 00:45:388 (4,5,6,7,1) - I felt a forceful pattern here too.. Perhaps reducing the sapcing a bit will help.
8. 00:47:788 (1) - Why not a 1/2 slider? The vocals are not held.
9. 00:52:588 (5) - Two circles on the 1/2 ticks would be amazing with both vocals and instruments.
10. 00:57:388 (5,6) - A bit awkward looking I'd say, perfect alignment or any different pattern works.
11. 01:05:445 (1) - Spacing increase when you reduce the SV like that plays wrong for me, I'd avoid the overlap with 4 too, smaller spacing is definitely favorable as it shows the lower intensity and the change of pace.
12. 01:05:959 (1) - I really think you should stop doing those, if you intend to follow the vocals only then ignore everything else, mute sliderends, don't map the drums, but when there are such significant instruments that are being ignored it's awkward.
13. 01:32:702 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - I see your intention with the SV increases here, but it simply does not work, it plays terrible imo :\ The main reason for that is the fact that the drums and other instruments create the intensity you aim to show in those sliders but you completely ignore those, therefore the player can't really understand the rhythm and the SV changes, it simply feels weird to press on.
14. In relation to the thing I just mention, 01:35:445 (1,2,1) - this is great and I enjoyed it.
15. 01:39:217 (1) - How about a slightly higher SV? I think the current one is a bit overkill, 0.6~0.75 works.
16. 01:44:359 (1,2,3,1) - Those too, why?
17. 02:23:038 (2) - It's supposed to be snapped on the blue tick at 02:23:017
18. 02:18:131 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1) - Most if not all of those are off timed, a different offset and a different bpm is most likely necessary here.
19. 02:28:931 (1) - Anything more interesting than that? It feels like you are following the other instrument with that repetitive slider, two sliders and a circles or something different will be nicer in this section.
20. 02:30:324 (1,1,1,1,1) - Yeah timing here too.. Oh and the hitsounds, they don't fit at all here, just sayin'.
21. 02:50:531 (2) - For the sake of making this section even better, use a slider like 02:47:788 (1) - here too, or don't use that kind of slider at all.
22. 02:50:874 (1) - This can easily throwoff many people, no transition into this 1/4 sliderspam, the sliders have a really strict movement because they face the same direction, and the fact that you sometimes hitsounded the sliderends indicates that you should probably just have 1/4 circles there, sudden hitsound on the sliderend just sounds wrong.
23. 02:53:617 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I didn't expect that huge difficulty increase, like at all, if you could gradually increase the spacing it'd be really nice.
24. 03:06:988 (1) - Why 3/4 again? 1/2 is the best in terms of vocals and instruments.
25. 03:07:674 (2) - ^ Egh I'll stop mentioning those.
26. 03:21:731 (5,6) - An actual stack like 03:18:988 (3,1) - ? Should be consistent imo
27. 04:51:730 (1) - That whole section lol, well like before, you need to time it properly and not snap so many stuff to 1/16, and honestly it looks like a complete copy paste, why? ._.

Avishay wrote:

Most of my points could apply to more than one place in your map, but still, the map feels like it was mapped by several mappers rather than one, really :O Good luck.

C00L wrote:

rank this

have my kudosu as well its not going into good use with my maps anyway so

Hot Loli wrote:

wrong timing, you made smth bad, check out your map now.

-Tochi wrote:

Hot Loli wrote:

wrong timing, you made smth bad, check out your map now.

idk, please be clearer

-Tochi wrote:

Hot Loli wrote:

wrong timing, you made smth bad, check out your map now.

idk, please be clearer

Hot Loli wrote:

i'm sorry, it was my system audio lag.

waefwerf wrote:

M4M. I've pointed out a few ghost notes that aren't in the actual song, but they all play quite nicely. I point them out because I'm not sure how rankable stuff like that is.

[Mountain]

SPOILER

00:47:188 (7,9) - These aren't in the music from what I can hear. Fixed!
01:00:988 (8) - Ctrl+G to match the pitch and direct the player towards the next slider The spacing is awkward, i think it flow better as it is.
01:17:274 (8,9,10,11) - NC start, and maybe decrease spacing to contrast the following increase in intensity? This bit by itself is also quite quiet, further lending itself to reduced spacing It's not so quiet that it needs to be reduced imo, and it fits more like this.
01:18:131 (3,4,5) - Why is this rhythm staggered? The song doesn't really indicate that here. Fixed!
01:25:159 (1,2,3,4) - This feels like it could be a lot more intense than it is. This is actually gettign more quiet, making it more spaced would be overdone.
01:48:731 (3,7) - Nothing here either, though the hitsounds make it work. I was told by a BN that it's fine it fits and are hitsounded, so i guess D:
02:30:324 (1) - Is this correctly snapped on a 1/16 beat? I honestly cannot tell. Same goes for the sliders in the similar section at 04:51:730. I'm getting help on timing on these sections.
02:53:274 (3,4) - Maybe unstack these? The synth does the same kind of melody change as at 02:52:931 (1,2) but these are mapped differently. You could move (3) to the left of (1), near the stream. I think it plays better stacked.
04:22:331 (5,2) - Same case as 01:18:131 (3,4,5) Yeah.
04:26:445 - Maybe add something here, like a 1/4 slider from 04:26:359 (5) ? I guess i'll go on witthout.

Solid map, it plays well Good luck going forward! PM if you've got any questions.

Cheesecake wrote:

Cute storyboard

HB24 wrote:

hey, m4m

[Mountain]
-00:23:274 (2) - make a normal curved slider to differ slider arts a bit I don't think it compliments so much as this.
-00:26:188 (1) - this slider should be here 00:26:017 - or i guess u not following vocals at all lmao Yeah xD
-00:28:759 (4) - blanket with 00:28:074 (4) - Fixed in another way.
-00:29:959 (5) - i wish this one wasnt stacked to actually make the somekind of clap noticed What do u mean?
-00:32:874 - note here plox, udidnt ignore these before This kinda "piano" wasn't there before aswell, and im mapping it now, so i have a reason for the little break xD
-00:46:417 (3) - id make parallel to 00:47:102 (6) - so the overlap would actually look intended I didn't make it parallel, but i changed the direction a bit.
-00:47:959 - u really shoundnt ignore this one Didn't map to the vocal here.
-00:57:388 (5) - isnt really paralle to 00:57:731 (6) - and u should move it a bit to the right Yeah i did it on purpose.
-01:28:931 (1,3) - http://puu.sh/o0YLO/bebe5ff2bb.jpg Fixed!
-01:32:359 - slider here instead, for the wub wub sound? Doesn't fit imo.
-01:49:845 (3) - should end here 01:50:017 - and make circle here 01:50:102 - :v Shortened the slider, but didn't add a circle, since i mapped to the vocals here, and it starts on the white tick.
-01:58:931 - there s actually a sound here Yeah, i skipped it because of the strong beat, and it fits more when there's a little break.
-02:12:473 (9) - NC? Not necessary
-02:54:902 (4,5) - how about continuce on curving them up doesn't look too great.
-03:17:617 (1) - shouldnt the sb be the opposite of this? i mean making a low sb slider here should fit more with the vocals What do you mean? o.o
-03:24:131 (1) - pls make it parallel to 03:23:788 (1) - I did this intentionally aswell, idk why but it just seems to fit better like this.
-04:46:074 (5) - NC Maybe, but not necessary
-04:57:050 (1) - http://puu.sh/o0Zyi/80ef7663d9.jpg for asthetics I don't this it's that important here tbh.

too much quality, too much -Tochi

1. 02:23:451 (1) - stop at 02:24:830 on 1/12

Neoskylove wrote:

m4m.

[mountain.]
00:29:274 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I think this pattern is hard to read and playing. 00:28:074 (4,3) - how acout thack them? Sorry, im a bit confused here x.x
00:46:245 (2) - flowbreak. sou about this? http://puu.sh/o4hXV/3854255009.jpg I flows better if it's more to the upper left.
00:48:131 (2,2) - how about stack The other one is already stacked.
01:26:017 (1,2,3,4) - ^ too confusing D:
01:40:588 (1,3) - I think this is bad overlap. my suggestion is http://puu.sh/o4i7g/21e69895a0.jpg. I like the current slider shape tho :c
03:12:559 (7,3) - how about stack them? I think stack them can make easier reading. Fixed!
03:28:074 (1,1,1) - I din't think NC is necessary. SV changes.
04:10:759 (2,6) - Could you avoid this overlap? Fixed!
04:26:873 (1,5) - stack error? Fixed!
good luck. my map is this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/415602
Thank you

Thanks for the mod!

lit120 wrote:

sup

[Hill, not Mountain]

1. 02:23:451 (1) - stop at 02:24:830 on 1/12 Fixed!

idk. can't find anything fishy here

GL! Thanks for the mod!

Underforest wrote:

(Click in the image for map I need mod back)

Mountain

1. 00:30:302 (2,5) - Not good spacing I like the pattern tho D:
2. 01:04:588 (1,2,3,4,5) - This? It flows better like it already is.
   
   SPOILER

   https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4883508
3. 01:39:217 - Normal whistle It's already Normal Sampleset o.o
4. 02:28:939 (1) - Add another reverse arrow so the slider finish correctly on rhythm There's no piano there..
5. 03:21:044 - 03:22:758 - sb/throught.png? what do you mean?
6. 05:02:538 (1) - Same as 02:28:939 (1) Same answer :<
7. 05:30:044 - 05:36:816 - Spinner? Not needed xD

Wow, I noted your map is very clean.
GL

Zexous wrote:

Idk if I just never saw it before or if it was added recently but that's a sexy SB and also this map has improved a whole lot good job
Thank you o3o

Smokeyjrs wrote:

This needs to be ranked already its an amazing map for this song
Thanks, soon :3

1. Minor slidrshape fixes
2. SB fixes (it's 2mbs smaller now!)
3. Something about playability of the difficulty was advised

17:38 -Tochi: Hello
17:38 Bakari: Hey
17:38 -Tochi: are you up for m4m?
17:39 Bakari: I don't take any m4m requests, sorry
17:39 -Tochi: i see :/
17:40 -Tochi: what about NM?
17:40 -Tochi: it's for a popped map
17:40 Bakari: Give that a try, but most probably I'll refuse since I am really low on motivation 
17:40 -Tochi: okay, i hope the best! https://osu.ppy.sh/s/320504
17:41 Bakari: Geee, haven't you requested that one already? 
17:41 -Tochi: i have? D:
17:41 -Tochi: i don't remember, sorry if i have :c
17:41 Bakari: I don't remember for sure 
17:42 Bakari: I could check it when it was qualified 
17:42 -Tochi: so i have to try and find another BN/QAT?
17:44 Bakari:  What is its current icon? 
17:45 -Tochi: popped
17:45 -Tochi: it was qualified last year
17:46 -Tochi: and i don't think Chaoslitz wants to support it again D:
17:46 Bakari: What made you think so? 
17:48 -Tochi: Chaoslitz didn't accept my request last time i asked :/
17:48 -Tochi: and is busy with exams now
17:49 -Tochi: "Stop requesting until my exam ends, otherwise your request will be ignored even when I am free to mod"
17:53 Bakari: Give me like 15 minutes and I'll have a look into it
17:54 -Tochi: okay, i really appreciate it!
18:04 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/713190 Rameses B - Mountains (feat. Veela) [Mountain]]
18:05 Bakari: General stuff, but 02:53:617 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - this part here gives a huge spike in terms of difficulty. http://puu.sh/okl4I.jpg 
18:05 Bakari: Are you sure you want that pattern here?
18:06 -Tochi: i think it fits with the song
18:07 -Tochi: i don't know if it would be better with less spacing
18:07 -Tochi: it kinsa builds up for the instense part after the stream
18:07 Bakari: If you think it is reasonable, than we are good to go 
18:07 -Tochi: kinda*
18:07 -Tochi: okay
18:09 Bakari: I think sb/minimalist.png (the circle) has a bit of glitching on it's borders 
18:10 Bakari: Yeah, it does. Probably because PS or other software you were using has cut some pixels out of it
18:10 Bakari: Or because there is not a single pixel of transparent border 
18:11 -Tochi: yeah
18:11 -Tochi: i see that
18:11 -Tochi: i can fix it
18:11 Bakari: Cool
18:11 Bakari: I'll try to continue checking the SB now
18:12 -Tochi: okay
18:14 Bakari: May I ask you why sb/mountain2 and all it's shades are png files? 
18:15 -Tochi: there's no reason to it
18:15 -Tochi: i can fix that
18:15 -Tochi: and rename it to jåg in the .osb quickly
18:15 -Tochi: jpG*
18:15 Bakari: Each png is about 0,8mb big or even heavier, using jpg can save us.. ehh, I'm bad at math but it'll be at least 2 megs of free space for sure 
18:16 -Tochi: yup
18:16 -Tochi: im bad at math too dw
18:18 Bakari: 02:56:358 - have a look at the spectrum here 
18:18 Bakari: Isn't it flashing too fast? At first it gave me an impression that something was broken 
18:19 Bakari: Or is it just me? 
18:20 -Tochi: let me take a look
18:21 -Tochi: i don't see it before 176444
18:21 -Tochi: 02:56:444 - *
18:21 -Tochi: the colors are going crazy lol
18:22 -Tochi: i could change this and make it more natiral
18:22 -Tochi: natural*
18:22 Bakari: It's your map, so you are free to do anything you believe to be a good thing for the map 
18:25 -Tochi: hmm, i don't think it's necessary
18:25 -Tochi: it was my first SB using tools and all, so it might be a bit poor
18:25 -Tochi: but it's not bad enough to be changed
18:30 Bakari: I don't really get that mindset, since I myself would never let an imperfect map of mine lay in the Ranked section 
18:30 Bakari: but oh well, I am here not to lecture you
18:33 -Tochi: hmm, i don't want to change it :<
18:33 -Tochi: brb, restarting, need to reload the sprites 100%
18:34 -Tochi: ok back
18:38 Bakari: 00:33:731 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the fact that each of the sliders has it's own number of repeats turns thins part into a guessing game 
18:39 Bakari: How about replacing the slider with a single circle at 00:43:674 - where the beat actually is? 
18:39 Bakari: I'd rather make it clickable, than have a slider starting on some ghosty note
18:39 -Tochi: yeah i will fix that
18:40 Bakari: 00:45:902 (1) - what made you use a 3/4 slider here, instead of an 1/2 slider and 2 notes? I'd prefer 00:46:074 - to have some more emphasis, rather than a plain slidertick 
18:41 -Tochi: i don't think the repeat sliders are hard to get, they play well with the song, and that makes it easier to follow the rhythm on them
18:41 Bakari: but why not use sliders with the same amount of repeats? 
18:41 -Tochi: i was following the vocal
18:42 Bakari: it's your right, let's move on
18:42 Bakari: 00:51:902 (3,4,5) - I do not hear any reason for those sliders to be extended. Care to explain? 
18:42 -Tochi: if i use it with same repeats, it will only follow the vocal which is boring
18:43 Bakari: 00:57:731 (6) - certainly should not be extended. 
18:43 -Tochi: i folloed the vocal there too, it's stronger in my ears
18:43 -Tochi: the beat here 00:52:159 - can be unmuted because there's a drum there, but it will sound weird to play
18:43 Bakari: But the vocals also have a clear and audible fade sound at 1/2 snap
18:44 -Tochi: hmm, i guess i could change it tbh
18:44 -Tochi: but not the first extended one since there's a beat on the end of it
18:44 Bakari: 01:04:159 (3) - can't really hear anything behind this circle
18:45 Bakari: 01:05:959 (1) - wouldn't it be better to slowdown this just like the previous slider? 
18:45 Bakari: It still goes with the vocals, so slowing it down makes perfect sense 
18:47 -Tochi: the drums there are stronger than the vocal, i could make a longer slider until the kiai starts
18:47 -Tochi: but the fast slider at the start of the kiai is too sudden after such a slow slider
18:48 Bakari: the kiai fountain is a good enough warning of a velocity change 
18:48 Bakari: not to mention the music itself giving a good hint to the players 
18:49 -Tochi: i could make the SV 0,60x at least
18:50 -Tochi: making it slower doesn't play that well with the flow
18:52 -Tochi: yeah, it feels good with 0,60x
18:54 Bakari: 02:30:290 (1) - any reason to curve it this way? 
18:55 -Tochi: not really
18:55 -Tochi: it looks good like that in my eyes
18:55 -Tochi: and a bit unique
18:58 Bakari: But it has no connection with the actual sound
18:59 -Tochi: do u have another suggestion? :o
19:00 -Tochi: 04:09:302 (2,1) - this is unstacked, i just stacked it lol
19:02 Bakari: ever considered a plain arc-shaped or straight slider as an alternative? 
19:03 -Tochi: yeah
19:03 Bakari: 02:33:048 (1) - you guessed it 
19:04 Bakari: 02:34:759 (1,2,3,4,5) - they sound exactly the same, this would make more sense to keep spacing consistent 
19:05 -Tochi: is this good.. http://puu.sh/okoJW/0f9b840ad9.jpg
19:05 Bakari: What is up with the curve in the end? What does it do? 
19:06 Bakari: In my opinion it creates an unnatural break of flow/slowdown which has absolutely nothing to do with the song
19:06 -Tochi: x.x | let's just make it simple
19:06 -Tochi: arc-shaped
19:06 -Tochi: the third circle is not exactly the same sound as the other two
19:07 -Tochi: it's lighter
19:08 Bakari: alright
19:08 Bakari: 03:20:359 (6,7) - these two have nothing in the blue ticks, there is nothing that'd support 1/4 sliders 
19:10 Bakari: 03:40:245 (1,4) - and yet again I do not see any reason for those to be extended
19:12 -Tochi: the 1/4 sliders with muted ends shows how strong the beat are there, two circles would be weaker
19:12 -Tochi: if you know what i mean
19:13 Bakari: You know, we have hitsounds to emphasize stronger beats
19:13 Bakari: 3/4 sliders ignoring reasonable 1/2 beats are not making it any better 
19:16 -Tochi: alright, i will fix those
19:18 Bakari: 04:54:291 (1) - same thing about the slidercuve. that move in the end makes me feel quite uneasy 
19:19 Bakari: 05:03:889 (1,1) - 
19:19 Bakari: that's pretty much it 
19:20 -Tochi: ok, i fixed it

Dreamtwolf wrote:

StoryBoard

Zexous wrote:

00:44:702 - in this part, the smoke.png you used, its borders are visible so you can see squares flying across the screen in play and it looks bad, some image editing should be done to fix that
also tbh the thought.png at 00:25:502 - is really tacky and I feel like it doesn't belong

strInsert wrote:

plz nerf the second spinner, it's too hard, i usually get 100s ;-;
btw really nice map!!!

loloplayer420 wrote:

Why its not even qualified yet?!?

get memed kiddo wrote:

loloplayer420 wrote:

Why its not even qualified yet?!?

The mapper got banned.