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Navizel
Forgot where Frostings said it but I believe he mentioned it before that VT is his favorite role. Though discarding Clairvoyant for a VT is just lame.
-[Jess]-
/conf
I am late to come this party,sorry ;w;
Reading now
-[Jess]-
Also,I am a universal backup.
Skullmaster4

Frostings wrote:

Will you believe me if I tell you my favorite role is VT? :)
no
not at all
:?
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

...so you ditched one of the most powerful role for a VT.
Do you still think he's town.
metal sonic1
<3

checking in
metal sonic1
vote:pieguyn

why did you dump "mason compulsive bodyguard"??

scummy
metal sonic1
sakura looks rlly town by the by

hi!

<3
metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura

Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
trueeeee but we never know

i am thinking the same thing ugh
Topic Starter
Zexion
"Pappus's centroid theorem


The first theorem states that the surface area A of a surface of revolution generated by rotating a plane curve C about an axis external to C and on the same plane is equal to the product of the arc length s of C and the distance d traveled by its geometric centroid. For example, the surface area of the torus with minor radius r and major radius R is

A = (2 pi r)(2 pi R) = 4 pi^2 R r.

The second theorem states that the volume V of a solid of revolution generated by rotating a plane figure F about an external axis is equal to the product of the area A of F and the distance d traveled by its geometric centroid. For example, the volume of the torus with minor radius r and major radius R is

V = (pi r^2)(2 pi R) = 2 pi^2 R r^2"

Hey, this isn't that hard! Oh right, those guys were still discussing about who is the culprit...


Votecount 1.3
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
pieguyn [1] - metal sonic1
Frostings [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -


Not Voting [4] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Everyone has confirmed! Hooray!
metal sonic1
ok i guesss that is compelling

meta ftw


unvote pieguyn
vote frostings
metal sonic1
btw i am a mason





pieguy pls slap yoursself 500 times
metal sonic1
as luck would have it i am masons with NOBODY because grand pie decided to trash mason COMPULSIVE BODYGUARD

wasnt that fun
Sakura
the fun thing is that masons are only guaranteed to be non mafia, so all you'd be would be neighbors that know they arent mafia. But yeah i remember others making this mistake on the greatest idea mafia I hosted.
GuyInFreezer
Drubkposting but wahey

Undecided on frostings th
There is only town mason in this setip so ya
GuyInFreezer
Aldo compulsive bodyguard is a shot role and deserves difching any time
GuyInFreezer
GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
GuyInFreezer
Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Aldo compulsive bodyguard is a shot role and deserves difching any time
wat why


he is a mason

so he can compulsively bodyguard his mason buddy (if any)

that is pretty straightforward ya?
metal sonic1
what a donk pieguy

dumping mason

leaving my all alone







slap urself 500 times
metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia

are those your townreads or are those your town power roles


why jess?
DakeDekaane

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
How much hopes do you have about lynching not town until Day 3?
Frostings
ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun :)
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh

Dunno what the big deal with it is :oops:
metal sonic1
it just occurred to me that although pieguy would not choose mafia, he might choose 3rd party since his policy is "lol 3rd party = town so lololololol"


yes this is the same paranoia i had in persona 4

but seriously can you blame me
metal sonic1
i actually feel pretty good about our chances of lynching not town for these few days


nobody asked me im just stating my opinion like the loudmouth i am
Drezi
one-shot commuter.

not buying Frostings' VT for lulz. as for Skullmaster, he'll just have to shoot someone we'd lynch otherwise so w/e.

btw mason is not town only here either, there's a goo mason in the list, metalsonic is prob town either way.

Vote: Frostings
Skullmaster4

Frostings wrote:

ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun :)
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh

Dunno what the big deal with it is :oops:
Some people, including me just feel like its odd that you would choose VT over a role that can actually do something.
Even if its not much, its better then being able to really do nothing.
I guess I cant judge your preferences though ¯\(o_o)/¯
MBomb
I hate when my internet dies whilst stuff is actually going on.

Frostings being VT? I'd believe it, but I still find it surprising he would discard a helpful role for it.
Also, that makes 3 VT claims... seems a bit off honestly.

I still think pieguy is scum.

metal sonic1 is town, that mason claim seemed way too legit to be faked (As in, I don't think he would put that much emphasis on the fact someone else discarded a mason card).

GIF is town, gut feeling.

That's all for my reads for now. :)
MBomb
Oh and I thought I already had done, but.

Vote: pieguy
GuyInFreezer
So we just need ace to claim.
GuyInFreezer

metal sonic1 wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia

are those your townreads or are those your town power roles


why jess?
He claimed uni backup. It's a provable role.
GuyInFreezer

DakeDekaane wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
How much hopes do you have about lynching not town until Day 3?
Very high.
We also have a claimed dayvig to help us too.
GuyInFreezer

Drezi wrote:

one-shot commuter.

not buying Frostings' VT for lulz. as for Skullmaster, he'll just have to shoot someone we'd lynch otherwise so w/e.

btw mason is not town only here either, there's a goo mason in the list, metalsonic is prob town either way.

Vote: Frostings
According to Navizel there are only grey goo in this game.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Huh... Calculus is really interesting.

What's going on next door? A massclaim? Of what?


Votecount 1.4
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
Did you forget frosty or did you agree with me.
And if the later then why dont you switch over to frosty and make something happen.
Sakura
Btw i agree sonic's town.
Ace Timing

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Ace Timing
forgot to Unvote
Frostings
Sakura just targets me every game it's getting kinda old :roll:
I could defend myself by saying I would probably never choose mafia or a third alignment over town given the choice, but like that's not even a defense :|

I'm kinda confused though, I drew clairvoyant so I thought it could be mafia or town based, but it says I discarded town clairvoyant. So were we supposed to know the alignment before discarding, or no?

Also I just searched up what coroner does, and wtf that role is so useless??
I thought it was some good investigative role so I FoS'd the people who discarded it
Skullmaster4

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky

Ace Timing wrote:

forgot to Unvote
Vote: Ace Timing
Unvote
Happy now? :|
(Sorry if that caused confusion, its a joke)
anyways
in all seriousness, you probably should claim, or at least give us a hint at why you can't claim (If possible) since most people have claimed already, since if you don't claim soon you will probably be a suspect for the day.
Frostings
also I totally missed Mb and Dake's claim

here are updated reads, they changed a bit given the claims

town
dake sm4 drezi jess

nulltown
gif pieguy

null
mb

nullscum
sakura
Frostings
I'm reading 5 people as townie, and including me that's 50% already :|
Frostings
o I'm reading 6 as town
DakeDekaane

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?
I have a guess, is it THAT role?

For the time being,

Vote: - Magic Bomb -
Sakura

Frostings wrote:

Sakura just targets me every game it's getting kinda old :roll:
I could defend myself by saying I would probably never choose mafia or a third alignment over town given the choice, but like that's not even a defense :|

I'm kinda confused though, I drew clairvoyant so I thought it could be mafia or town based, but it says I discarded town clairvoyant. So were we supposed to know the alignment before discarding, or no?

Also I just searched up what coroner does, and wtf that role is so useless??
I thought it was some good investigative role so I FoS'd the people who discarded it
I target you every game? how?
I rechecked my role PM to make sure and you're right that the town tracker only says "Tracker" so i can believe this, normally you'd assume that the lack of an alignment on it means town. You're still discarding a town PR, why did you think picking clayvoirant would make you scum if you had taken it? And why are you using this defense of "i wouldn't take a mafia role over a town role"?

Frostings wrote:

also I totally missed Mb and Dake's claim

here are updated reads, they changed a bit given the claims

town
dake sm4 drezi jess

nulltown
gif pieguy

null
mb

nullscum
sakura
And would you be so kind to explain why do you think im scum
GuyInFreezer

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Everyone else claimed.
GuyInFreezer
@March

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Drubkposting but wahey

Undecided on frostings th(rn)
There is only town mason in this setip so ya
Sakura
@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
GuyInFreezer
Also there is mafia clairvoyant too.
GuyInFreezer

Sakura wrote:

@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
The readlist is a mess.

Everything else is acceptable.
GuyInFreezer
Also I want dake vigged but I can't control someone else's dayvig.
DakeDekaane
:(
Frostings

Sakura wrote:

And would you be so kind to explain why do you think im scum
I got sick intuition that's usually wrong :oops:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura wrote:

@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
The readlist is a mess.
:(
Frostings
You can't brush off my reads list just because they're different from yours :)
GuyInFreezer
You claimed that your readlist was also based on a roleclaim andbyou put dake as top tier townread.

It's a mess and it's not just my opinion.
Frostings
considering Dake discarded Mafia Goon, and given Dake's behaviour during RVS, I can believe his VT claim

(on the other hand, MB's VT claim isn't something I can believe) neither is my claim tbh
Drezi
what is it about Dake's behavior during RVS that makes you believe his claim?

also if you had to choose between say VT and Vig, I might understand if you'd prefer to avoid the responsibility of using your active role properly but a Clairvoyant is strictly better, like literally it's for all intents and purposes the exact same VT you wanted, but you get bonus info for free, so like really I can't wrap my head around this.
Frostings

Drezi wrote:

what is it about Dake's behavior during RVS that makes you believe his claim?
99% gut feel and intuition :oops:

Drezi wrote:

also if you had to choose between say VT and Vig, I might understand if you'd prefer to avoid the responsibility of using your active role properly but a Clairvoyant is strictly better, like literally it's for all intents and purposes the exact same VT you wanted, but you get bonus info for free, so like really I can't wrap my head around this.
I would rather have 100% chance of being VT than a 50% chance of being a strictly better Mafia Goon
Ace Timing

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Everyone else claimed.
k then, I'm supersaint

so don't lynch me, just vig
Drezi
Whhatttt?
Drezi
ok I just reread it but supersaint is the one that you don't control, we can just force someone to place the hammer allowing us to lynch you for free basically so yeah, unless we want to get rid of the dayvig shot I don't see the point.
Drezi
@Frostings so what's your reason for picking VT then? first you said it's because it's your favourite role and it's fun and clairvoyant is meh anyway

Frostings wrote:

ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun :)
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh
now it's because you weren't sure if it's a town or scum role? you didn't mention that at first and seems like a rather important detail..
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... Idea_Mafia rolelist
doesn't list the "town" tag here either for town roles, and you can always ask the mod etc.?
Frostings
99% of the reason I picked VT is because it's my favourite role
Drezi
Also Sakura I'm not sure that I have it right, are these two posts basically that made you reconsider and drop the GiF/pie angle respectively? Cause I'm not seeing much else.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I'm fine with dying btw

It confirms 4 factions to everyone, and massclaim will go through without resistance.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura

Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
And you moved onto Frostings BEFORE he made this claim so the reason for that was?? Before that point he only posted an RVS readlist lol.
Sakura
I dont think GIF scum would be making that kind of move on Day 1 (maybe later on), and it's a good point that pie prefers to play as town than as scum so pie discarding town makes her town.

Re: the supersaint claim. It's not useless claimed, if we believe you're scum we decide who hammer lest they be lynched instead.

Re: The VT pick, i still don't see why you think receiving a role called "Clayvoirant" would have any implication as being 50% chance of being mafia when you could either A) Check back on the greatest idea mafia i hosted where i explained what it meant when a role had no alignment on it or B) Ask the mod.
Skullmaster4

Ace Timing wrote:

k then, I'm supersaint

so don't lynch me, just vig
I don't want to waste a Vigilante kill on a townie that COULD end up hurting the town.
I would only kill you if someone is about to hammer, and I doubt anyone would hammer after that claim.

Oh btw, I was thinking about having my vigilante kill server as a second d1 lynch and allow people to vote on who I should kill.
Anyone opposed to that idea?
Ace Timing
it's in the case of you not believing me or thinking of scum, I'm not asking you to kill me obviously.
Topic Starter
Zexion
[Insert Fancy Flavour Here]

Votecount 1.5
- Magic Bomb - [4] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings, DakeDekaane
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, Ace Timing
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
metal sonic1
honestly although gif is playing townie (subjective) his role is the easiest to fake tbh
metal sonic1

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

k then, I'm supersaint

so don't lynch me, just vig
I don't want to waste a Vigilante kill on a townie that COULD end up hurting the town.
I would only kill you if someone is about to hammer, and I doubt anyone would hammer after that claim.

Oh btw, I was thinking about having my vigilante kill server as a second d1 lynch and allow people to vote on who I should kill.
Anyone opposed to that idea?
great idea

pun intended
GuyInFreezer
There are 7 total factions in this game right now.
metal sonic1
greater idea:


let me tell you who to shoot because i am a licensed sharpshooter




pun totally intended
metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

There are 7 total factions in this game right now.
like i said this is an unverifiable statement


proves my point


also i am not used to gif not having touhou avatar but meh
metal sonic1
[quote="ZexionDiscards:
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop.
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon.
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch.
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie.
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet.
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon.
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard.
Navizel discarded Lynchbait.
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner.
Drezi discarded Town Coroner.
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant.
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop.
[/quote]

re posting
metal sonic1
the fuck is lynchbait
metal sonic1
what a terrible role
Navizel
Lyncher's target. Pretty stupid role, yea.
metal sonic1
Skullmaster dropped cop for dayvig right?

that i can believe
metal sonic1
my gut feel from the discards are drezi, dakedakeene and frostings are suspicious
metal sonic1
im also not quite sure about ace timing
Skullmaster4

metal sonic1 wrote:

Skullmaster dropped cop for dayvig right?

that i can believe
And because I was cop last game, I really didn't want to play the same role.
And I have never got to play a Town Killing role. 8-)
Skullmaster4
Ok, so I am going to try something.
I'm going to offer my daykill as sort of a secondary D1 lynch, as previously stated. If this doesn't go well or nobody votes I am probably just going to choose myself.
If you want to vote on the person for me to daykill use Italics instead of Bold so we don't confuse the moderator as a real command.
To vote, please type in Dayvigilante: (Insert Name Here)
It will work exactly as lynches do really.
The main reason I am doing this is because I want to kill who the majority of town can agree on. If I listen to a single person it could easily be a trick by the mafia, and like I said earlier, a miskill from me could be really bad for the town.
@Mod Sorry for creating my own command. Since its in Italics and not Bold, I hope it doesn't create confusion. I can change it if you need me to.
Frostings
^ that's a terrible idea
Skullmaster4
^ Could you explain WHY its a terrible idea?
I'm still sort of thinking about this idea. I need input on it, please explain why instead of just trashing it.
Ace Timing
because you're new, impressionable, and scum likes that. Instead of giving toen an extra lynch, you could give scum an extra nightkill.
GuyInFreezer
Yeah.

Instead you follow my command on shooting.
/dictatorship
Skullmaster4

Ace Timing wrote:

because you're new, impressionable, and scum likes that. Instead of giving toen an extra lynch, you could give scum an extra nightkill.
You mean I would be giving scum an extra daykill.

Also, I am new, but I am not an idiot. I would most likely be able to tell if the mafia started taking advantage of me.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Yeah.

Instead you follow my command on shooting.
/dictatorship
Like explained in my earlier post, listening to one person would probably go badly.
*though I know this is sort of a joke post*

Another thing, I don't want to choose myself. Like Ace Timing said, I am sort of new to mafia, so I could easily mess up. That's why I feel like I need help with this choice.
Yes, I will cancel the plan. Just ignore that post really.
Just know that since I am pretty much going town majority, I am still kinda doing the same thing. Its just in a less organized format.
Navizel
@Dake, are you still suspecting me?
@Frostings, any explanations to your reads?

I'm having a hard time believing the VT claims because it just feels convenient.

@mod, does the player who targets the Grey Goo becomes just a simple goo?

Vote: Frostings
metal sonic1
Maybe I should have rolled the town one shot dayvig instead *cough*

I'll just pretend you don't exist and we play without the existence of your dayvig
GuyInFreezer
Skull

I am dead serious.

I would like a total control over your dayvig if possible.
GuyInFreezer
Vig works better the fewer people controls it.

If you're not up for it and would rather let someone else decide your vigshot, let me decide it for you.
GuyInFreezer
This is just a reference post.

This is the list based on claims which alignment a certain player can be.

- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town]
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town. Mafia gets no roleblock.]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Let's discard all Town or Town/Mafia choices.

Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]

Provable roles that can be mafia.

GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Town and can be proven
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]
GuyInFreezer
Town and can not be proven
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
GuyInFreezer
posting again because random pagetop

This is just a reference post.

This is the list based on claims which alignment a certain player can be.

- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town]
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town. Mafia gets no roleblock.]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Let's discard all Town or Town/Mafia choices.

Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]

Provable roles that can be mafia.

GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Town and can be proven
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]

Town and can not be proven
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
GuyInFreezer
It's sad to say but in order to prove uni-backup a dayvig must shoot a provable PR today.
JK and commuter are easy to prove. Supersaint is also very easy to prove and one of the VT claim must hammer the supersaint today.

Provable roles that can be mafia list must be carefully observed by reads/other PR interactions.

Town and can not be proven are usually the most problematic ones but luckily those are very town claims.
pieguyn
i should not have signed up for this game.

i'll be around tomorrow
GuyInFreezer
We lucked out with the setup pie

This is gonna be an easy game.
GuyInFreezer
Also letting you know that the VT claims have a very high chance of flipping goo.
GuyInFreezer
Of course this is only based on claims.

Readwise 2 of the VT claims die today.
Sakura
Well all i know is that ms's gut at fingind town is great, GIF's good with reading town, and my gut is good at finding scum, taking in mind GIF's lists to narrow down scum is going to help tremendously.

Ok now im not mad about claiming Tracker Day 1.
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