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DakeDekaane
In that time we didn't know there was no Red Goo, so yeah.
Sakura

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
1) Don't edit your posts
2) Please shoot GIF then.
GuyInFreezer
Aliens can make a separate nightkills iirc.

Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
GuyInFreezer
I'm fine with dying btw

It confirms 4 factions to everyone, and massclaim will go through without resistance.
DakeDekaane
Although Aliens have limited NKs, 3 isn't a nice number.
Topic Starter
Zexion

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
Not again. Please, Don't edit your post under any circumstances. This is a warning for everyone: next one to edit their posts will be modkilled.
MBomb
I think pieguy is more likely to be scum than GIF.
MBomb

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Aliens can make a separate nightkills iirc.

Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
There is no red goo, if Navizel is telling the truth.
Navizel

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Aliens can make a separate nightkills iirc.

Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
There is NO Red Goo. Only GREY. No other Goos either.
Skullmaster4

Sakura wrote:

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
1) Don't edit your posts
2) Please shoot GIF then.
Yeah, I got caught on that one didn't I.
I was just editing out a mistyped "I". No game changing info, so don't worry, but it's a rule nevertheless. I apologies and I won't do it again.
Also, I am not going to shoot anyone yet, I'm going to wait a bit. Shooting a townie might end up losing the town the game.
Frostings
RVS reads:

town
gif
pieguy
sm4

not town, same faction:
mb sakura

supicious:
Drezi ms1

Vote: MB
DakeDekaane
I don't understand Drezi voting me after our exchange.
Frostings

GuyInFreezer wrote:

We will commence massclaiming.

Frostings wrote:

please no reroll I got my favourite role :)
Topic Starter
Zexion
"The Stone–Weierstrass theorem


The Weierstrass approximation theorem states that every continuous function defined on a closed interval [a, b] can be uniformly approximated as closely as desired by a polynomial function. Because polynomials are among the simplest functions, and because computers can directly evaluate polynomials, this theorem has both practical and theoretical relevance, especially in polynomial interpolation.

The Stone–Weierstrass theorem can be used to prove the following two statements which go beyond Weierstrass's result.
If  f  is a continuous real-valued function defined on the set [a, b] × [c, d] and ε > 0, then there exists a polynomial function p in two variables such that | f (x, y) − p(x, y) | < ε for all x in [a, b] and y in [c, d].If X and Y are two compact Hausdorff spaces and f : X × Y → R is a continuous function, then for every ε > 0 there exist n > 0 and continuous functions  f1, ...,  fn  on X and continuous functions g1, ..., gn on Y such that || f − ∑ fi gi || < ε.The theorem has many other applications to analysis, including..."

...

Yeah I need something else to do in the meanwhile.

Votecount 1.2
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
GuyInFreezer [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -

Not Voting [5] - -[Jess]-, metal sonic1, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Deadline for confirmations is December 13th, 9:40PM UTC.
Sakura

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Yeah, I got caught on that one didn't I.
I was just editing out a mistyped "I". No game changing info, so don't worry, but it's a rule nevertheless. I apologies and I won't do it again.
Also, I am not going to shoot anyone yet, I'm going to wait a bit. Shooting a townie might end up losing the town the game.
We have no way to tell what you were actually changing just dont do it, if you have a typo you can make a NEW post saying that "this was supposed to be read X instead of Y because typo". Also dont try to do things without getting caught things like this will get you banned from most games because they dont want a player trying to evade the rules without "getting caught"

On-Topic:
Vote: pieguyn
Sakura

Frostings wrote:

RVS reads:

town
gif
pieguy
sm4

not town, same faction:
mb sakura

supicious:
Drezi ms1

Vote: MB
Why is sonic suspicious? He hasn't even posted, yet you're pairing him with someoen that has actually posted (and did nothing of note)
Skullmaster4

Sakura wrote:

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Yeah, I got caught on that one didn't I.
I was just editing out a mistyped "I". No game changing info, so don't worry, but it's a rule nevertheless. I apologies and I won't do it again.
Also, I am not going to shoot anyone yet, I'm going to wait a bit. Shooting a townie might end up losing the town the game.
We have no way to tell what you were actually changing just dont do it, if you have a typo you can make a NEW post saying that "this was supposed to be read X instead of Y because typo". Also dont try to do things without getting caught things like this will get you banned from most games because they dont want a player trying to evade the rules without "getting caught"

On-Topic:
Vote: pieguyn
Yeah, this is fair. On the other main forum site I'm on edits don't get shown if it's edited within about 30 seconds or so, I messed up in forgeting that this site works differently.
I just posted it, saw the mistake and wanted to fix it since it's kind of just a reflex for me now. xD
Now can we move on from this topic? If we talk about me messing up in this game each time I mess up, we will be off topic during the whole day phase.
Sakura
I'm moving on from that topic, I already did.

Why are you focusing on it.
GuyInFreezer
Sakura

Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
Sakura
Possibly!
Sakura
Granted, you're probably right about that.
Vote: Frostings
GuyInFreezer
I don't think frostings' scum either, with him excited and stuff

I would like him to claim however
Frostings

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I don't think frostings' scum either, with him excited and stuff

I would like him to claim however
please, everyone knows what my favourite role is :oops:
GuyInFreezer
I don't because I'm oblivious and ignorant.
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I don't think frostings' scum either, with him excited and stuff

I would like him to claim however
Why do you think him being excited makes him town?
GuyInFreezer
Also just saw the "one of the faction is a grey goo".
Splended.
GuyInFreezer

Sakura wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I don't think frostings' scum either, with him excited and stuff

I would like him to claim however
Why do you think him being excited makes him town?
It doesn't make him 100% but it certainly leads to town for me.
GuyInFreezer
Also please expedite the claiming so we can actually start playing mafia

Thanks.
Frostings
Will you believe me if I tell you my favorite role is VT? :)
GuyInFreezer
...so you ditched one of the most powerful role for a VT.
GuyInFreezer
Anyway Navizel is like 99.99% confirmed town to me.
Navizel
Well, Excellent Sense of Smell is a town role soo
Navizel
Forgot where Frostings said it but I believe he mentioned it before that VT is his favorite role. Though discarding Clairvoyant for a VT is just lame.
-[Jess]-
/conf
I am late to come this party,sorry ;w;
Reading now
-[Jess]-
Also,I am a universal backup.
Skullmaster4

Frostings wrote:

Will you believe me if I tell you my favorite role is VT? :)
no
not at all
:?
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

...so you ditched one of the most powerful role for a VT.
Do you still think he's town.
metal sonic1
<3

checking in
metal sonic1
vote:pieguyn

why did you dump "mason compulsive bodyguard"??

scummy
metal sonic1
sakura looks rlly town by the by

hi!

<3
metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura

Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
trueeeee but we never know

i am thinking the same thing ugh
Topic Starter
Zexion
"Pappus's centroid theorem


The first theorem states that the surface area A of a surface of revolution generated by rotating a plane curve C about an axis external to C and on the same plane is equal to the product of the arc length s of C and the distance d traveled by its geometric centroid. For example, the surface area of the torus with minor radius r and major radius R is

A = (2 pi r)(2 pi R) = 4 pi^2 R r.

The second theorem states that the volume V of a solid of revolution generated by rotating a plane figure F about an external axis is equal to the product of the area A of F and the distance d traveled by its geometric centroid. For example, the volume of the torus with minor radius r and major radius R is

V = (pi r^2)(2 pi R) = 2 pi^2 R r^2"

Hey, this isn't that hard! Oh right, those guys were still discussing about who is the culprit...


Votecount 1.3
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
pieguyn [1] - metal sonic1
Frostings [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -


Not Voting [4] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Everyone has confirmed! Hooray!
metal sonic1
ok i guesss that is compelling

meta ftw


unvote pieguyn
vote frostings
metal sonic1
btw i am a mason





pieguy pls slap yoursself 500 times
metal sonic1
as luck would have it i am masons with NOBODY because grand pie decided to trash mason COMPULSIVE BODYGUARD

wasnt that fun
Sakura
the fun thing is that masons are only guaranteed to be non mafia, so all you'd be would be neighbors that know they arent mafia. But yeah i remember others making this mistake on the greatest idea mafia I hosted.
GuyInFreezer
Drubkposting but wahey

Undecided on frostings th
There is only town mason in this setip so ya
GuyInFreezer
Aldo compulsive bodyguard is a shot role and deserves difching any time
GuyInFreezer
GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
GuyInFreezer
Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Aldo compulsive bodyguard is a shot role and deserves difching any time
wat why


he is a mason

so he can compulsively bodyguard his mason buddy (if any)

that is pretty straightforward ya?
metal sonic1
what a donk pieguy

dumping mason

leaving my all alone







slap urself 500 times
metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia

are those your townreads or are those your town power roles


why jess?
DakeDekaane

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
How much hopes do you have about lynching not town until Day 3?
Frostings
ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun :)
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh

Dunno what the big deal with it is :oops:
metal sonic1
it just occurred to me that although pieguy would not choose mafia, he might choose 3rd party since his policy is "lol 3rd party = town so lololololol"


yes this is the same paranoia i had in persona 4

but seriously can you blame me
metal sonic1
i actually feel pretty good about our chances of lynching not town for these few days


nobody asked me im just stating my opinion like the loudmouth i am
Drezi
one-shot commuter.

not buying Frostings' VT for lulz. as for Skullmaster, he'll just have to shoot someone we'd lynch otherwise so w/e.

btw mason is not town only here either, there's a goo mason in the list, metalsonic is prob town either way.

Vote: Frostings
Skullmaster4

Frostings wrote:

ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun :)
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh

Dunno what the big deal with it is :oops:
Some people, including me just feel like its odd that you would choose VT over a role that can actually do something.
Even if its not much, its better then being able to really do nothing.
I guess I cant judge your preferences though ¯\(o_o)/¯
MBomb
I hate when my internet dies whilst stuff is actually going on.

Frostings being VT? I'd believe it, but I still find it surprising he would discard a helpful role for it.
Also, that makes 3 VT claims... seems a bit off honestly.

I still think pieguy is scum.

metal sonic1 is town, that mason claim seemed way too legit to be faked (As in, I don't think he would put that much emphasis on the fact someone else discarded a mason card).

GIF is town, gut feeling.

That's all for my reads for now. :)
MBomb
Oh and I thought I already had done, but.

Vote: pieguy
GuyInFreezer
So we just need ace to claim.
GuyInFreezer

metal sonic1 wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia

are those your townreads or are those your town power roles


why jess?
He claimed uni backup. It's a provable role.
GuyInFreezer

DakeDekaane wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
How much hopes do you have about lynching not town until Day 3?
Very high.
We also have a claimed dayvig to help us too.
GuyInFreezer

Drezi wrote:

one-shot commuter.

not buying Frostings' VT for lulz. as for Skullmaster, he'll just have to shoot someone we'd lynch otherwise so w/e.

btw mason is not town only here either, there's a goo mason in the list, metalsonic is prob town either way.

Vote: Frostings
According to Navizel there are only grey goo in this game.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Huh... Calculus is really interesting.

What's going on next door? A massclaim? Of what?


Votecount 1.4
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
Did you forget frosty or did you agree with me.
And if the later then why dont you switch over to frosty and make something happen.
Sakura
Btw i agree sonic's town.
Ace Timing

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Ace Timing
forgot to Unvote
Frostings
Sakura just targets me every game it's getting kinda old :roll:
I could defend myself by saying I would probably never choose mafia or a third alignment over town given the choice, but like that's not even a defense :|

I'm kinda confused though, I drew clairvoyant so I thought it could be mafia or town based, but it says I discarded town clairvoyant. So were we supposed to know the alignment before discarding, or no?

Also I just searched up what coroner does, and wtf that role is so useless??
I thought it was some good investigative role so I FoS'd the people who discarded it
Skullmaster4

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky

Ace Timing wrote:

forgot to Unvote
Vote: Ace Timing
Unvote
Happy now? :|
(Sorry if that caused confusion, its a joke)
anyways
in all seriousness, you probably should claim, or at least give us a hint at why you can't claim (If possible) since most people have claimed already, since if you don't claim soon you will probably be a suspect for the day.
Frostings
also I totally missed Mb and Dake's claim

here are updated reads, they changed a bit given the claims

town
dake sm4 drezi jess

nulltown
gif pieguy

null
mb

nullscum
sakura
Frostings
I'm reading 5 people as townie, and including me that's 50% already :|
Frostings
o I'm reading 6 as town
DakeDekaane

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?
I have a guess, is it THAT role?

For the time being,

Vote: - Magic Bomb -
Sakura

Frostings wrote:

Sakura just targets me every game it's getting kinda old :roll:
I could defend myself by saying I would probably never choose mafia or a third alignment over town given the choice, but like that's not even a defense :|

I'm kinda confused though, I drew clairvoyant so I thought it could be mafia or town based, but it says I discarded town clairvoyant. So were we supposed to know the alignment before discarding, or no?

Also I just searched up what coroner does, and wtf that role is so useless??
I thought it was some good investigative role so I FoS'd the people who discarded it
I target you every game? how?
I rechecked my role PM to make sure and you're right that the town tracker only says "Tracker" so i can believe this, normally you'd assume that the lack of an alignment on it means town. You're still discarding a town PR, why did you think picking clayvoirant would make you scum if you had taken it? And why are you using this defense of "i wouldn't take a mafia role over a town role"?

Frostings wrote:

also I totally missed Mb and Dake's claim

here are updated reads, they changed a bit given the claims

town
dake sm4 drezi jess

nulltown
gif pieguy

null
mb

nullscum
sakura
And would you be so kind to explain why do you think im scum
GuyInFreezer

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Everyone else claimed.
GuyInFreezer
@March

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Drubkposting but wahey

Undecided on frostings th(rn)
There is only town mason in this setip so ya
Sakura
@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
GuyInFreezer
Also there is mafia clairvoyant too.
GuyInFreezer

Sakura wrote:

@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
The readlist is a mess.

Everything else is acceptable.
GuyInFreezer
Also I want dake vigged but I can't control someone else's dayvig.
DakeDekaane
:(
Frostings

Sakura wrote:

And would you be so kind to explain why do you think im scum
I got sick intuition that's usually wrong :oops:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura wrote:

@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
The readlist is a mess.
:(
Frostings
You can't brush off my reads list just because they're different from yours :)
GuyInFreezer
You claimed that your readlist was also based on a roleclaim andbyou put dake as top tier townread.

It's a mess and it's not just my opinion.
Frostings
considering Dake discarded Mafia Goon, and given Dake's behaviour during RVS, I can believe his VT claim

(on the other hand, MB's VT claim isn't something I can believe) neither is my claim tbh
Drezi
what is it about Dake's behavior during RVS that makes you believe his claim?

also if you had to choose between say VT and Vig, I might understand if you'd prefer to avoid the responsibility of using your active role properly but a Clairvoyant is strictly better, like literally it's for all intents and purposes the exact same VT you wanted, but you get bonus info for free, so like really I can't wrap my head around this.
Frostings

Drezi wrote:

what is it about Dake's behavior during RVS that makes you believe his claim?
99% gut feel and intuition :oops:

Drezi wrote:

also if you had to choose between say VT and Vig, I might understand if you'd prefer to avoid the responsibility of using your active role properly but a Clairvoyant is strictly better, like literally it's for all intents and purposes the exact same VT you wanted, but you get bonus info for free, so like really I can't wrap my head around this.
I would rather have 100% chance of being VT than a 50% chance of being a strictly better Mafia Goon
Ace Timing

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Everyone else claimed.
k then, I'm supersaint

so don't lynch me, just vig
Drezi
Whhatttt?
Drezi
ok I just reread it but supersaint is the one that you don't control, we can just force someone to place the hammer allowing us to lynch you for free basically so yeah, unless we want to get rid of the dayvig shot I don't see the point.
Drezi
@Frostings so what's your reason for picking VT then? first you said it's because it's your favourite role and it's fun and clairvoyant is meh anyway

Frostings wrote:

ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun :)
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh
now it's because you weren't sure if it's a town or scum role? you didn't mention that at first and seems like a rather important detail..
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... Idea_Mafia rolelist
doesn't list the "town" tag here either for town roles, and you can always ask the mod etc.?
Frostings
99% of the reason I picked VT is because it's my favourite role
Drezi
Also Sakura I'm not sure that I have it right, are these two posts basically that made you reconsider and drop the GiF/pie angle respectively? Cause I'm not seeing much else.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I'm fine with dying btw

It confirms 4 factions to everyone, and massclaim will go through without resistance.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura

Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
And you moved onto Frostings BEFORE he made this claim so the reason for that was?? Before that point he only posted an RVS readlist lol.
Sakura
I dont think GIF scum would be making that kind of move on Day 1 (maybe later on), and it's a good point that pie prefers to play as town than as scum so pie discarding town makes her town.

Re: the supersaint claim. It's not useless claimed, if we believe you're scum we decide who hammer lest they be lynched instead.

Re: The VT pick, i still don't see why you think receiving a role called "Clayvoirant" would have any implication as being 50% chance of being mafia when you could either A) Check back on the greatest idea mafia i hosted where i explained what it meant when a role had no alignment on it or B) Ask the mod.
Skullmaster4

Ace Timing wrote:

k then, I'm supersaint

so don't lynch me, just vig
I don't want to waste a Vigilante kill on a townie that COULD end up hurting the town.
I would only kill you if someone is about to hammer, and I doubt anyone would hammer after that claim.

Oh btw, I was thinking about having my vigilante kill server as a second d1 lynch and allow people to vote on who I should kill.
Anyone opposed to that idea?
Ace Timing
it's in the case of you not believing me or thinking of scum, I'm not asking you to kill me obviously.
Topic Starter
Zexion
[Insert Fancy Flavour Here]

Votecount 1.5
- Magic Bomb - [4] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings, DakeDekaane
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, Ace Timing
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
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