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Zexion
308 posts
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Topic Starter
Zexion
Huh... Calculus is really interesting.

What's going on next door? A massclaim? Of what?

Votecount 1.4
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Sakura
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Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1

Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
Did you forget frosty or did you agree with me.
And if the later then why dont you switch over to frosty and make something happen.
Sakura
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Sakura
Btw i agree sonic's town.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
forgot to Unvote
Frostings
913 posts
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Frostings
Sakura just targets me every game it's getting kinda old :roll:
I could defend myself by saying I would probably never choose mafia or a third alignment over town given the choice, but like that's not even a defense :|

I'm kinda confused though, I drew clairvoyant so I thought it could be mafia or town based, but it says I discarded town clairvoyant. So were we supposed to know the alignment before discarding, or no?

Also I just searched up what coroner does, and wtf that role is so useless??
I thought it was some good investigative role so I FoS'd the people who discarded it
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky

Ace Timing wrote:

forgot to Unvote
Vote: Ace Timing
Unvote
Happy now? :|
(Sorry if that caused confusion, its a joke)
anyways
in all seriousness, you probably should claim, or at least give us a hint at why you can't claim (If possible) since most people have claimed already, since if you don't claim soon you will probably be a suspect for the day.
Frostings
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Frostings
also I totally missed Mb and Dake's claim

here are updated reads, they changed a bit given the claims

town
dake sm4 drezi jess

nulltown
gif pieguy

null
mb

nullscum
sakura
Frostings
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Frostings
I'm reading 5 people as townie, and including me that's 50% already :|
Frostings
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Frostings
o I'm reading 6 as town
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?
I have a guess, is it THAT role?

For the time being,

Vote: - Magic Bomb -
Sakura
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Sakura

Frostings wrote:

Sakura just targets me every game it's getting kinda old :roll:
I could defend myself by saying I would probably never choose mafia or a third alignment over town given the choice, but like that's not even a defense :|

I'm kinda confused though, I drew clairvoyant so I thought it could be mafia or town based, but it says I discarded town clairvoyant. So were we supposed to know the alignment before discarding, or no?

Also I just searched up what coroner does, and wtf that role is so useless??
I thought it was some good investigative role so I FoS'd the people who discarded it
I target you every game? how?
I rechecked my role PM to make sure and you're right that the town tracker only says "Tracker" so i can believe this, normally you'd assume that the lack of an alignment on it means town. You're still discarding a town PR, why did you think picking clayvoirant would make you scum if you had taken it? And why are you using this defense of "i wouldn't take a mafia role over a town role"?

Frostings wrote:

also I totally missed Mb and Dake's claim

here are updated reads, they changed a bit given the claims

town
dake sm4 drezi jess

nulltown
gif pieguy

null
mb

nullscum
sakura
And would you be so kind to explain why do you think im scum
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer

Ace Timing wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

So we just need ace to claim.
claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Everyone else claimed.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
@March

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Drubkposting but wahey

Undecided on frostings th(rn)
There is only town mason in this setip so ya
Sakura
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Sakura
@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Also there is mafia clairvoyant too.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer

Sakura wrote:

@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
The readlist is a mess.

Everything else is acceptable.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Also I want dake vigged but I can't control someone else's dayvig.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
:(
Frostings
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Frostings

Sakura wrote:

And would you be so kind to explain why do you think im scum
I got sick intuition that's usually wrong :oops:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura wrote:

@GIF: What do you think of his post explaining his pick and his reads list.
The readlist is a mess.
:(
Frostings
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Frostings
You can't brush off my reads list just because they're different from yours :)
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
You claimed that your readlist was also based on a roleclaim andbyou put dake as top tier townread.

It's a mess and it's not just my opinion.
Frostings
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Frostings
considering Dake discarded Mafia Goon, and given Dake's behaviour during RVS, I can believe his VT claim

(on the other hand, MB's VT claim isn't something I can believe) neither is my claim tbh
Drezi
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Drezi
what is it about Dake's behavior during RVS that makes you believe his claim?

also if you had to choose between say VT and Vig, I might understand if you'd prefer to avoid the responsibility of using your active role properly but a Clairvoyant is strictly better, like literally it's for all intents and purposes the exact same VT you wanted, but you get bonus info for free, so like really I can't wrap my head around this.
Frostings
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Frostings

Drezi wrote:

what is it about Dake's behavior during RVS that makes you believe his claim?
99% gut feel and intuition :oops:

Drezi wrote:

also if you had to choose between say VT and Vig, I might understand if you'd prefer to avoid the responsibility of using your active role properly but a Clairvoyant is strictly better, like literally it's for all intents and purposes the exact same VT you wanted, but you get bonus info for free, so like really I can't wrap my head around this.
I would rather have 100% chance of being VT than a 50% chance of being a strictly better Mafia Goon
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

claiming would kind of ruin my role, should I anyway?

and why hasn't anyone voted me this entire game

freaky
Everyone else claimed.
k then, I'm supersaint

so don't lynch me, just vig
Drezi
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Drezi
Whhatttt?
Drezi
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Drezi
ok I just reread it but supersaint is the one that you don't control, we can just force someone to place the hammer allowing us to lynch you for free basically so yeah, unless we want to get rid of the dayvig shot I don't see the point.
Drezi
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Drezi
@Frostings so what's your reason for picking VT then? first you said it's because it's your favourite role and it's fun and clairvoyant is meh anyway

Frostings wrote:

ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun :)
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh
now it's because you weren't sure if it's a town or scum role? you didn't mention that at first and seems like a rather important detail..
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... Idea_Mafia rolelist
doesn't list the "town" tag here either for town roles, and you can always ask the mod etc.?
Frostings
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Frostings
99% of the reason I picked VT is because it's my favourite role
Drezi
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Drezi
Also Sakura I'm not sure that I have it right, are these two posts basically that made you reconsider and drop the GiF/pie angle respectively? Cause I'm not seeing much else.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I'm fine with dying btw

It confirms 4 factions to everyone, and massclaim will go through without resistance.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura

Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
And you moved onto Frostings BEFORE he made this claim so the reason for that was?? Before that point he only posted an RVS readlist lol.
Sakura
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Sakura
I dont think GIF scum would be making that kind of move on Day 1 (maybe later on), and it's a good point that pie prefers to play as town than as scum so pie discarding town makes her town.

Re: the supersaint claim. It's not useless claimed, if we believe you're scum we decide who hammer lest they be lynched instead.

Re: The VT pick, i still don't see why you think receiving a role called "Clayvoirant" would have any implication as being 50% chance of being mafia when you could either A) Check back on the greatest idea mafia i hosted where i explained what it meant when a role had no alignment on it or B) Ask the mod.
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4

Ace Timing wrote:

k then, I'm supersaint

so don't lynch me, just vig
I don't want to waste a Vigilante kill on a townie that COULD end up hurting the town.
I would only kill you if someone is about to hammer, and I doubt anyone would hammer after that claim.

Oh btw, I was thinking about having my vigilante kill server as a second d1 lynch and allow people to vote on who I should kill.
Anyone opposed to that idea?
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
it's in the case of you not believing me or thinking of scum, I'm not asking you to kill me obviously.
Zexion
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Topic Starter
Zexion
[Insert Fancy Flavour Here]

Votecount 1.5
- Magic Bomb - [4] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings, DakeDekaane
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, Ace Timing
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
honestly although gif is playing townie (subjective) his role is the easiest to fake tbh
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

k then, I'm supersaint

so don't lynch me, just vig
I don't want to waste a Vigilante kill on a townie that COULD end up hurting the town.
I would only kill you if someone is about to hammer, and I doubt anyone would hammer after that claim.

Oh btw, I was thinking about having my vigilante kill server as a second d1 lynch and allow people to vote on who I should kill.
Anyone opposed to that idea?
great idea

pun intended
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
There are 7 total factions in this game right now.
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
greater idea:


let me tell you who to shoot because i am a licensed sharpshooter




pun totally intended
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

There are 7 total factions in this game right now.
like i said this is an unverifiable statement


proves my point


also i am not used to gif not having touhou avatar but meh
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
[quote="ZexionDiscards:
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop.
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon.
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch.
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie.
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet.
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon.
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard.
Navizel discarded Lynchbait.
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner.
Drezi discarded Town Coroner.
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant.
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop.
[/quote]

re posting
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
the fuck is lynchbait
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
what a terrible role
Navizel
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Navizel
Lyncher's target. Pretty stupid role, yea.
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
Skullmaster dropped cop for dayvig right?

that i can believe
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
my gut feel from the discards are drezi, dakedakeene and frostings are suspicious
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
im also not quite sure about ace timing
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4

metal sonic1 wrote:

Skullmaster dropped cop for dayvig right?

that i can believe
And because I was cop last game, I really didn't want to play the same role.
And I have never got to play a Town Killing role. 8-)
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4
Ok, so I am going to try something.
I'm going to offer my daykill as sort of a secondary D1 lynch, as previously stated. If this doesn't go well or nobody votes I am probably just going to choose myself.
If you want to vote on the person for me to daykill use Italics instead of Bold so we don't confuse the moderator as a real command.
To vote, please type in Dayvigilante: (Insert Name Here)
It will work exactly as lynches do really.
The main reason I am doing this is because I want to kill who the majority of town can agree on. If I listen to a single person it could easily be a trick by the mafia, and like I said earlier, a miskill from me could be really bad for the town.
@Mod Sorry for creating my own command. Since its in Italics and not Bold, I hope it doesn't create confusion. I can change it if you need me to.
Frostings
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Frostings
^ that's a terrible idea
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4
^ Could you explain WHY its a terrible idea?
I'm still sort of thinking about this idea. I need input on it, please explain why instead of just trashing it.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
because you're new, impressionable, and scum likes that. Instead of giving toen an extra lynch, you could give scum an extra nightkill.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Yeah.

Instead you follow my command on shooting.
/dictatorship
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4

Ace Timing wrote:

because you're new, impressionable, and scum likes that. Instead of giving toen an extra lynch, you could give scum an extra nightkill.
You mean I would be giving scum an extra daykill.

Also, I am new, but I am not an idiot. I would most likely be able to tell if the mafia started taking advantage of me.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Yeah.

Instead you follow my command on shooting.
/dictatorship
Like explained in my earlier post, listening to one person would probably go badly.
*though I know this is sort of a joke post*

Another thing, I don't want to choose myself. Like Ace Timing said, I am sort of new to mafia, so I could easily mess up. That's why I feel like I need help with this choice.
Yes, I will cancel the plan. Just ignore that post really.
Just know that since I am pretty much going town majority, I am still kinda doing the same thing. Its just in a less organized format.
Navizel
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Navizel
@Dake, are you still suspecting me?
@Frostings, any explanations to your reads?

I'm having a hard time believing the VT claims because it just feels convenient.

@mod, does the player who targets the Grey Goo becomes just a simple goo?

Vote: Frostings
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
Maybe I should have rolled the town one shot dayvig instead *cough*

I'll just pretend you don't exist and we play without the existence of your dayvig
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Skull

I am dead serious.

I would like a total control over your dayvig if possible.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Vig works better the fewer people controls it.

If you're not up for it and would rather let someone else decide your vigshot, let me decide it for you.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
This is just a reference post.

This is the list based on claims which alignment a certain player can be.

- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town]
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town. Mafia gets no roleblock.]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Let's discard all Town or Town/Mafia choices.

Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]

Provable roles that can be mafia.

GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Town and can be proven
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Town and can not be proven
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
posting again because random pagetop

This is just a reference post.

This is the list based on claims which alignment a certain player can be.

- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town]
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town. Mafia gets no roleblock.]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Let's discard all Town or Town/Mafia choices.

Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]

Provable roles that can be mafia.

GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Town and can be proven
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]

Town and can not be proven
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
It's sad to say but in order to prove uni-backup a dayvig must shoot a provable PR today.
JK and commuter are easy to prove. Supersaint is also very easy to prove and one of the VT claim must hammer the supersaint today.

Provable roles that can be mafia list must be carefully observed by reads/other PR interactions.

Town and can not be proven are usually the most problematic ones but luckily those are very town claims.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
i should not have signed up for this game.

i'll be around tomorrow
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
We lucked out with the setup pie

This is gonna be an easy game.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Also letting you know that the VT claims have a very high chance of flipping goo.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Of course this is only based on claims.

Readwise 2 of the VT claims die today.
Sakura
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Sakura
Well all i know is that ms's gut at fingind town is great, GIF's good with reading town, and my gut is good at finding scum, taking in mind GIF's lists to narrow down scum is going to help tremendously.

Ok now im not mad about claiming Tracker Day 1.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Also if you're a pseudojester or a lyncher, claim immediately.

Don't come crying later if you for accidentally and lose.
Sakura
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Sakura

Zexion wrote:

[Insert Fancy Flavour Here]

Votecount 1.5
- Magic Bomb - [4] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings, DakeDekaane
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, Ace Timing
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
According to this vote count if all ppl voting frostings move to MB or viceversa we achieve a lynch.

What do you guys think of a dayvig on frostings and lynching MB (or viceversa i dont mind)
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Accidentally dying and lose*
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
We need to lynch ace today.

He technically could be alien avenger.
It was an overlook on my part so someone can make an updated list with this in mind.
Sakura
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Sakura
So whoever we dont shoot hammers Ace?
Seems like a sound plan to me.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
That's the plan yes.
-[Jess]-
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-[Jess]-
vote:ace
I will back at 4-6 hour later
Sakura
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Sakura
so skull take your choice between Mb and frosty, the other will die (or not die if ace is lying) by hammering ace.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Why not dake
Sakura
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Sakura
i dont mind dake, but i think those 2 are higher chance of scum right now.
Frostings
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Frostings
What gif is doing, trying to game the system, makes me not really wanna play this game :roll:
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

Navizel wrote:

@Dake, are you still suspecting me?
Not anymore, I've always found investigative roles quite hard to be a lie.

tbh, I think goo would likely not claim VT, given he has to be targeted, js.

Just do whatever.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
I'd rather we use the day for discussion and getting standard reads rather than selecting who to eliminate based on setup spec

I get gif is playing for his wincon, but I'd rather lose and have a good game of mafia where everyone participates, rather than winning and having forced a number of people to suicide
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
but I guess we're already nearing that threshold since we got claims out already. I just hope everyone lied about their roles like I did :)
Skullmaster4
0 posts
Joined February 2015
Skullmaster4
I'll probably use my dayvig on one of those two when I get home.
I'll be back in about 8 hours
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
GuyInFreezer
Cool a scumclaim
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
GuyInFreezer
Not @skull btw
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
GuyInFreezer
Oh also, there's no breaking the game involved here whatsoever.

The massclaim couldve gone horribly wrong, and town lucked out for having a lot of confirmable town-only roles.

This was a big-time risk-or-reward gambit.

With that said, I am pretty sure the only one being lynched purely for setup is Ace.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
like tbh
Vote: Ace
MBomb
MBomb

Frostings wrote:

but I guess we're already nearing that threshold since we got claims out already. I just hope everyone lied about their roles like I did :)
if it's 3/3 that would be hilarious.
MBomb
MBomb
Dake is probably telling the truth with his VT claim though.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
@sm4 You can vig me for picking VT, I already lost motivation to play this game. you're probably gonna die tonight anyways if you don't use your shot and vanillize yourself

here are my reads

town
dake sm4 drezi jess ace

nulltown
pieguy

null
mb

scum/antitown
sakura

Also Gif shouldn't be receiving all the trust he's getting.
I feel like it's kinda obvious who's town and yet we're probably gonna end up killing off a bunch of them.
MBomb
MBomb

Frostings wrote:

@sm4 You can vig me for picking VT, I already lost motivation to play this game. you're probably gonna die tonight anyways if you don't use your shot and vanillize yourself

here are my reads

town
dake sm4 drezi jess ace

nulltown
pieguy

null
mb

scum/antitown
sakura

Also Gif shouldn't be receiving all the trust he's getting.
I feel like it's kinda obvious who's town and yet we're probably gonna end up killing off a bunch of them.
Can I just ask about your town read on Drezi? It's the only one I don't really understand (other than that nulltown on pie but that's something everyone except me seems to have). I'm not saying I'm scumreading Drezi or anything, but it doesn't seem like he's done much, especially not enough for a town read.
MBomb
MBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

especially not enough for a full town read.
fixed
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
I would replace out, but I think it's unfair to give someone a shitty VT role given a mass claim on day 1
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
drezi gets a townread from me because he's preferring discussion rather than following orders like half the people here
MBomb
MBomb
Also am i the only person who still believes at least one of pie/gif is scum.
MBomb
MBomb
(of course, I think it's pie, but I'd say GIF is town if pie is scum, and vice versa.)
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
I think gif is playing typical gif, and pie publicly following along (with massclaims) then finding his own scumreads is by-the-book pie play.
they're both likely town, though I wouldn't be surprised if pie flipped scum or third party. jail keeper is hard to claim though imo
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
I've been having trouble for getting a townread on a lot of people, but I think it's because I've only considered 50% of the playerbase to be town. If I allow the possibility of only 3-4 antitown roles this game, it might be more acceptable, though I might have to think about my reads better
metal sonic1
10 posts
Joined December 2015
metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Provable roles that can be mafia.

GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
wrong.

we have no way of proving gif's number of alignments (until everyone dies lol). gif's clairvoyant is not a proveable role



but a good plus point is that gif is assuming self to be town
metal sonic1
10 posts
Joined December 2015
metal sonic1
i find thsi game fun and i think frosting's issues with 'gaming the system' is bullshit

of course i have a tendency to enjoy gaming the system too so maybe its a different point of view.....
metal sonic1
10 posts
Joined December 2015
metal sonic1
the only thing not wanting me to blast frosting's head off is his very cute dino avatar
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