xxdeathx wrote:

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Source may not be right, according to japanese sites it is WHITE ALBUM2 or ホワイトアルバム2.
Title is closing '13

01:08:981 (5) - quite overmapped imo, please remove ok
01:35:381 (7) - ^ for the strong beat, I want keep the tripple
01:26:981 (3) - try to use more consistent DS k
02:01:931 (3) - not good use of 3/4 slider here, 1/2 fits better it does not break the vocal, and the guitar track give me this option imo
02:42:431 (3,1,2,3) - use consistent DS for 3/4 circles mixed with 1/2, or have a much bigger jump for the 1/2 ok
03:43:331 (1,1) - I really don't approve of such a small post-spinner gap. At the very least center the slider so it's easier to reach. fix ;w;

Call me back

SPOILER

BK

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1. im kind of worried about your spinner lengths..02:14:531 (1) - 03:43:331 (1) - 04:06:731 (1) -

1. just some slider suggestions i guess lol. feel free to ignore them if u wish
   00:43:931 (3) - http://puu.sh/h7Ja7/b9508c3d4c.jpg
   01:11:531 (1) - can u make the curve more even? something like this http://puu.sh/h7JgC/adc319147b.jpg
   01:22:331 (3) - smoother curve http://puu.sh/h7JBX/f0bcbdd1f5.jpg
   03:37:931 (1) - eh,, why not just make a normal slider? or expose the tail a bit more maybe
2. 00:49:931 (1,2) - make parallel?
3. 01:12:731 (3,4) - copy paste these?
4. 00:52:331 (1) - try to move this back on to the grid
5. 01:43:331 (2) - why beizer slider? (delete and remake it, ull see)
6. 01:56:531 (7,8,9,10,1) - ehh would prefer if it's either a curve or straight line or something
7. 02:03:131 - can u put something here
   03:12:731 - ^
   04:15:131 - ^
   04:34:331 - ^
8. 02:16:331 - 02:19:931 - not sure if these breaks are necesssary usually it gives a better effect to just let it drain
   04:47:531 - ^ same here
9. 03:01:031 (3) - nc perhaps
10. 03:27:131 (4,5) - i think it would be better if it was a slider
11. 04:04:331 (1,2) - space this out more, looks like 1/4 cuz of ur previous stuff
12. 04:35:831 (2,4) - might as well delete these, otherwise map 04:36:731 - and 04:37:031 - as well.
13. 05:01:481 (5) - that first part sounds like 1/6 lol.. 05:01:531 - to be safe, you could move htis slider 1/4 later
    05:20:681 (6,7) - same issue here ^
14. 05:02:981 (3) - not sure what you're mapping, please move it 1/4 later or add something to 05:03:131 -
15. 05:40:331 (1,2,3,4) - could be spaced out a little more tbh, imo the gaps look like 1/4

Kibbleru wrote:

okay i can check this soon.

general

1. im kind of worried about your spinner lengths..02:14:531 (1) - 03:43:331 (1) - 04:06:731 (1) -

^I feel its ok because I was using Insane standard, its just BPM too low.

diff

1. just some slider suggestions i guess lol. feel free to ignore them if u wish
   00:43:931 (3) - http://puu.sh/h7Ja7/b9508c3d4c.jpg
   01:11:531 (1) - can u make the curve more even? something like this http://puu.sh/h7JgC/adc319147b.jpg
   01:22:331 (3) - smoother curve http://puu.sh/h7JBX/f0bcbdd1f5.jpg
   03:37:931 (1) - eh,, why not just make a normal slider? or expose the tail a bit more maybe
   ^ほ(normal) し(strong) い(strong) mapping the vocal i guess.
2. 00:49:931 (1,2) - make parallel?
3. 01:12:731 (3,4) - copy paste these?
4. 00:52:331 (1) - try to move this back on to the grid
5. 01:43:331 (2) - why beizer slider? (delete and remake it, ull see)
   ^slight adjusted
6. 01:56:531 (7,8,9,10,1) - ehh would prefer if it's either a curve or straight line or something
7. 02:03:131 - can u put something here
   03:12:731 - ^
   04:15:131 - ^
   04:34:331 - ^
   ^sry want keep these 4, because i want insert a little break while vocal stopped to help the player follow the lyric
8. 02:16:331 - 02:19:931 - not sure if these breaks are necesssary usually it gives a better effect to just let it drain
   04:47:531 - ^ same here
9. 03:01:031 (3) - nc perhaps
10. 03:27:131 (4,5) - i think it would be better if it was a slider
11. 04:04:331 (1,2) - space this out more, looks like 1/4 cuz of ur previous stuff
12. 04:35:831 (2,4) - might as well delete these, otherwise map 04:36:731 - and 04:37:031 - as well.
13. 05:01:481 (5) - that first part sounds like 1/6 lol.. 05:01:531 - to be safe, you could move htis slider 1/4 later
    05:20:681 (6,7) - same issue here ^
    ^current one sounds better to me. ;w;
14. 05:02:981 (3) - not sure what you're mapping, please move it 1/4 later or add something to 05:03:131 -
    ^vocal or rhythm as main, switching to the strongest track if the current track gets really weak or spaced. It will be easy for people to follow the lyric, I know its a rhythm game, but that is my understanding of mapping the vocal
15. 05:40:331 (1,2,3,4) - could be spaced out a little more tbh, imo the gaps look like 1/4
    ^fixed the DS of last one

Irreversible wrote:

Hey there,

after internal discussion we decided on pulling this out of the qualified section for now. We thought that this map needs further re-vision, before it goes back to qualified. Your map generally plays okay, yet there are many sloppy patterns to be found. Let me point out the major ones quickly:

[Reachless]


02:01:931 (3,4) - A small replace of those two, and they'll compliment each other way better. You can try something like this to keep your idea: http://puu.sh/hcS3K/9abdf8046f.jpg
02:06:131 (5,6,7,8,1) - Try stacking the slider end of 1 with 02:05:681 (4) - to give it a more polished feeling.
04:12:131 (2,3,4,5) - Patterns like this appear quite random, the song stays the same, but the distance doesn't. Maybe try something so it stays equal (especially in parts like that? How about a square?)
^this one is because 04:12:131 (2,3) - 04:12:731 (4,5) - i set as same DS, because the inst is "drum-ring-drum-ring", i did not place them randomly, and 04:12:731 (4,5,6) - is a equilateral triangle, this will definitely help players understand the rhythm. slightly adjusted
02:48:431 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Same as ^. You could try avoiding the overlap of 7 and slider 1.
^ture, i will change as you said, but this overlap really have nothing to do with the appearance, i was avoiding the overlap on the circles. many mappers are overlaping sliders because it wont confuse people in most cases.
03:37:931 (1,2,3) - I know, just minor, but the spacing here is inconsistent. However, there are many of these issues, and we'd like you to fix them.
03:57:131 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - This stream is not following the song properly, is it? You change the direction / shape, where it doesn't make sense. You should've at least keeping the curve for these 03:58:181 (8,9,10) - as well. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3010431 Take that as an example.

I hope you get the idea, and can find some more stuff. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate asking me in game for further feedback.

See you !

Shad0w1and wrote:

@Kibbleru I feel so sorry about this DQ, I suck

Kibbleru wrote:

well, about 5 bns approved this so i thought it was good to go lol.. bleh w/e

although i'm not absolutely against this dq, i have seen worse maps pass...
i really wish you guys can be more consistent with your quality dq's :X
for us right now, its litteraly a luck based roulette on which QAT was assigned to which map...

BeatofIke wrote:

I hardly did anything though :/

xxdeathx wrote:

Shad0w1and wrote:

@Kibbleru I feel so sorry about this DQ, I suck

Did you forget everybody else who helped you with this too?

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

不。。每個人都被扣同樣的分數

tutuhaha wrote:

IRC

16:10 Shad0w1and: 那个，irr说细节不错了，但有些节奏的切换他也不好掌控，再找BN商讨一下就可以试一下re
16:12 tutuhaha: ..........节奏的切换是什么鬼
16:13 Shad0w1and: 他的意思就是说打着是没问题，但因为我不停在人声和乐器中间切换，高潮部分有些怎么跟再确认一下比较好
16:14 Shad0w1and: 低潮部分应该没什么问题
16:16 Shad0w1and: 我重启一下
16:18 tutuhaha: 这样
16:19 tutuhaha: 你还有多久下线？
16:19 Shad0w1and: 求个m4m或m4b好么
16:19 Shad0w1and: 早
16:19 tutuhaha: 那就没啥问题了
16:19 tutuhaha: 我昨晚这个normal给你摸，IRC，ok不
16:20 Shad0w1and: 啥意思
16:21 tutuhaha: 做完
16:21 tutuhaha: 该死的输入法.........
16:21 Shad0w1and: 好
16:40 tutuhaha: 来给我np一下
16:40 *Shad0w1and is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/639435 Uehara Rena - closing]
16:41 tutuhaha: 咦
16:41 tutuhaha: spy占个位啥意思
16:42 Shad0w1and: lol不知道
16:42 Shad0w1and: 不认识啊
16:42 tutuhaha: 是我们打进qat内部滴探子
16:42 Shad0w1and: LOL
16:42 Shad0w1and: 我擦
16:43 tutuhaha: 00:07:931 (1) - 拉下来一点HP条了碰到
16:43 Shad0w1and: 没碰到吧lol
16:43 Shad0w1and: 大概是皮肤
16:44 Shad0w1and: 下来一点好了
16:45 tutuhaha: 01:50:381 (2,3) - 同上
16:45 tutuhaha: 我大概懂irr的意思了
16:46 tutuhaha: 02:06:731 (1,2,3) - 间距搞一样
16:47 Shad0w1and: 好
16:48 Shad0w1and: 主要是re的时候是今年2月底，现在再re不会用这种风格
16:48 tutuhaha: 04:08:381 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 这边跟人声把串串改成slider比较好，多余节奏删掉
16:49 tutuhaha: 我先大致搞一下
16:49 tutuhaha: 搞完你自己打打看
16:49 Shad0w1and: 12改成1/4？
16:49 tutuhaha: 他大概的想法应该是有些地方的间距处理太模糊了所以打起来很奇怪
16:50 tutuhaha: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3013853
16:50 tutuhaha: 要是我会搞成这样
16:51 tutuhaha: 然后转换有点僵硬
16:51 tutuhaha: 比如说这里哦
16:51 tutuhaha: 04:09:131 (1) - 这块人声明显强
16:51 Shad0w1and: http://puu.sh/he9if/b2e3cdb086.jpg
16:51 tutuhaha: slider的话最好往后拖一个蓝线
16:51 Shad0w1and: 我用这个算了
16:52 Shad0w1and: 之前那个pattern和irr改的
16:52 tutuhaha: 04:09:581 (x) - 在这里结尾比较好
16:53 tutuhaha: 04:10:031 (x) - 04:10:631 (x) - 这俩地方加上note比较好
16:53 tutuhaha: 04:10:631 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - 然后这块的处理和上面的改成一样的
16:53 Shad0w1and: 这一节我故意留空了一点行不
16:53 tutuhaha: 04:11:531 (1) - 这个slider和我上面说的一样
16:53 Shad0w1and: 就是因为是很安静
16:53 tutuhaha: 这里没必要空
16:54 tutuhaha: 04:12:131 (2,3,4,5) - 04:15:131 (3,4,5,6) - 因为这里的"安静"和这俩地方是一样的
16:54 tutuhaha: 而且........说真的也没怎么安静啊_(:зゝ∠)_......
16:54 Shad0w1and: http://puu.sh/he9if/b2e3cdb086.jpg 这个pattern你没意见？
16:55 tutuhaha: 唔
16:55 tutuhaha: 跟人声的话04:08:381 (1) - 这个应该是1/4
16:55 tutuhaha: ........
16:55 tutuhaha: 1/2！
16:55 tutuhaha: 说错了！
16:56 Shad0w1and: 好
16:56 tutuhaha: 04:15:131 (3,4,5,6,1) - 把这5个搞成五角星好不
16:57 tutuhaha: 04:20:381 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这边的人声也是那个1/2的那个节奏
16:57 tutuhaha: 04:21:131 (1,2,3,4) - 然后现在稍微提一下我觉得的问题点
16:57 tutuhaha: 这个是个例子哦^
16:58 tutuhaha: 04:21:131 (1,2,3) - 这块你搞了个，跳
16:58 Shad0w1and: 感觉如果用1/2这里的clap没了很怪
16:58 tutuhaha: 然后是1/4节奏
16:58 tutuhaha: 04:21:731 (3,4) - 这块是1/2节奏
16:58 Shad0w1and: 之前那段没问题
16:58 tutuhaha: 然后和前面跳的间距基本没差
16:58 tutuhaha: 这样打起来就非常非常非常非常奇怪
16:59 tutuhaha: 04:20:531 (5,6,7,8) - 那这个分别搞成两个slider怎样？
16:59 tutuhaha: 然后回到我刚才说的那个问题上
17:00 tutuhaha: 这一类的问题在这个图里还是蛮多的我觉得
17:00 tutuhaha: 如果你觉得恩没错ok我同意的话，自己回头再check一遍
17:01 Shad0w1and: 我感觉这曲子重复的太多了
17:01 Shad0w1and: 想换花样lol
17:01 tutuhaha: 花样没掌握好就是画蛇添足
17:01 tutuhaha: 04:37:931 (1,2,3,4) - 这个也是
17:02 Shad0w1and: 嗯那我再看看
17:02 tutuhaha: 然后把那个letterbox关掉1
17:02 tutuhaha: 这个歌你也说是很安静的
17:02 tutuhaha: 虽然长了点
17:02 Shad0w1and: ok
17:02 tutuhaha: 但是节奏大部分都是一样的
17:03 tutuhaha: 不需要刻意的营造某些效果
17:03 tutuhaha: 04:57:131 (1) - 重音这里我觉得应该搞个跳，然后你把跳搞到04:55:931 (3,4) - 这里干啥
17:04 tutuhaha: 04:58:031 (3,4) - 这里我觉得还是用普通间距比较好
17:04 Shad0w1and: lol我觉得跳和切flow作用一样
17:04 tutuhaha: 这块的音也没有重到需要搞着一个跳
17:05 tutuhaha: 哦那你可能跟我有不同的概念
17:05 Shad0w1and: 嗯，拉进到1.5
17:05 tutuhaha: 我觉得跳是起强调性作用居多
17:05 Shad0w1and: 切flow是反向切入滑条
17:06 tutuhaha: 05:04:331 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 我觉得这个地方的重复note可以放在x168 y260
17:06 tutuhaha: 因为这块音乐变了再和前面一样的重复点不好
17:08 tutuhaha: 05:10:781 (6) - 这个我觉得应该在红线上结尾
17:08 tutuhaha: 然后把红线上的note删掉
17:09 Shad0w1and: 嗯
17:09 tutuhaha: 05:36:431 (3,4) - 05:38:831 (4,5) - 间距统一
17:09 tutuhaha: 然后把我后半段说的问题自己拿到前半段核对一下_(:зゝ∠)_
17:09 tutuhaha: 然后传完后再找我_(:зゝ∠)_
17:10 Shad0w1and: 好
17:27 Shad0w1and: 那个，为了clap我想了想还是全部统一成1/4滑条+3note的形式。。不然clap断开感觉损失更大
17:28 Shad0w1and: irr当时就是这么建议的，想来也是为了保留音效连贯性
17:32 tutuhaha: 那行
18:15 Shad0w1and: 这图缝缝补补蛋疼死了，又不想re（第一张图，已经re过5遍了）。这次只要泡了我就不理了，专心弄tv去Orz
18:17 tutuhaha: 2333
18:17 tutuhaha: 这是你多久之前做的图咯？
18:17 Shad0w1and: 一年前
18:18 Shad0w1and: 第一张认真做的图
18:18 Shad0w1and: 实在不行等泡了再等一年翻出来re一次找人点2333
18:19 tutuhaha: .........
18:19 tutuhaha: so虐
18:19 Shad0w1and: 这风格我现在都感觉蛋疼，但又没有硬伤
18:20 Shad0w1and: 打图是绝对没任何问题的
18:20 Shad0w1and: 就是细节定型了不好修
18:39 tutuhaha: 其实现在modder也懒
18:39 tutuhaha: 问题他们都知道就是不想和你详细说
18:40 Shad0w1and: 不，其实我是感觉mapping并不一定要按着乐器来
18:41 Shad0w1and: 只要能顺畅的表达乐曲，听漏了或者加三连又怎样
18:41 Shad0w1and: 加好音效玩家甚至听不出来
18:41 Shad0w1and: 我现在依然觉得我的那个bless your name的第一版做的节奏最好
18:42 Shad0w1and: 但所有BN都说不能那样
18:42 Shad0w1and: 那我就只好现在跟乐器了
18:43 Shad0w1and: 对乐曲的表达和理解才是mapper存在的意义
18:43 Shad0w1and: 不然随机作图器升级几次难道节奏还真的就和mapper一样有趣了？
18:44 tutuhaha: 嘛各有各的想法
18:45 Shad0w1and: 所以只要不是我听着有违和感的下点我都不摸。一般只摸pattern，偶尔几个音效
18:46 tutuhaha: 嘛
18:46 Shad0w1and: 嘛，其实跟乐器也不是不行，就是很多时候很傻逼。
18:46 Shad0w1and: 但人声太难跟
18:46 Shad0w1and: 不好切换
18:47 tutuhaha: _(:зゝ∠)_
18:47 tutuhaha: 经验之谈，有经验怎么做都agree
18:47 Shad0w1and: 有时候solo部分突然没了乐器，但越来越激昂
18:47 Shad0w1and: 人声mapping就好多了
18:48 Shad0w1and: 但确实人人都在吐槽这里那里
18:48 Shad0w1and: 我屈服了
18:48 tutuhaha: 2333
18:49 Shad0w1and: 其实我拿出去给玩家打打得上好
18:49 Shad0w1and: 屁事没有
18:50 tutuhaha: _(:зゝ∠)_嘛，这我也不好说，玩儿是一回事，rank是一回事
18:50 Shad0w1and: 话说。
18:51 tutuhaha: 话说。
18:51 *Shad0w1and is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/678859 Sasaki Sayaka - Distance]
18:51 Shad0w1and: 你试试这首
18:51 tutuhaha: 憋再让我试了！
18:51 tutuhaha: orz
18:51 Shad0w1and: inst mapping超逗比
18:51 Shad0w1and: 看一下
18:51 Shad0w1and: 就看一下，不要建议
18:51 Shad0w1and: 说下感想
18:52 tutuhaha: 好累................
18:52 tutuhaha: 脑容量不太够了
18:52 Shad0w1and: 看auto就好
18:53 tutuhaha: 你如果还想让我今天check你的图的话，就先憋给我别的图了..............
18:53 tutuhaha: 看auto都累
18:53 tutuhaha: 给人建议和感想都是需要脑容量的
18:53 Shad0w1and: lol
18:53 tutuhaha: 话说
18:53 Shad0w1and: 好
18:54 tutuhaha: 你给我的视频在我的电脑上都卡卡的
18:54 tutuhaha: 为啥呢
18:54 tutuhaha: 是flv文件的问题么？
18:54 Shad0w1and: 应该不会
18:54 Shad0w1and: 脚本大家都是一样的
18:54 tutuhaha: 我目前做的4个图都是你给的video
18:55 tutuhaha: 就亚尔斯兰战记ED那个不卡
18:55 Shad0w1and: 都卡？
18:55 tutuhaha: 难道是我电脑问题》,,,
18:56 Shad0w1and: 卡的np一下
18:56 *tutuhaha is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/678652 BUMP OF CHICKEN - Hello,world!]
18:56 *tutuhaha is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/679815 UVERworld - Boku no Kotoba de wa nai, Kore wa Bokutachi no Kotoba]
18:56 *tutuhaha is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/678590 UNISON SQUARE GARDEN - Sugar Song to Bitter Step]
18:57 Shad0w1and: dt也不卡
18:57 tutuhaha: 要是在你的电脑上不卡的话那估计是我的电脑问题
19:02 Shad0w1and: 从喜欢做到吐
19:02 tutuhaha: 这个能理解
19:02 tutuhaha: 我当初map的第一个曲子，哇..............................
19:03 Shad0w1and: 其他的element应该是检查好了的
19:03 Shad0w1and: 就检查pattern应该就行了
19:08 Shad0w1and: 好了
19:09 tutuhaha: 好啦
19:09 Shad0w1and: 嗯
19:09 Shad0w1and: 有一个没改
19:11 tutuhaha: 01:38:531 (7,8) - 这个拉开点儿
19:12 Shad0w1and: 1.1x
19:12 Shad0w1and: 好了
19:13 tutuhaha: ........1.1x有点儿不够啊感觉
19:13 tutuhaha: 哦还好
19:13 tutuhaha: 不过你这块打过么
19:14 Shad0w1and: http://puu.sh/hegY3/b2e00d429c.jpg
19:14 tutuhaha: 01:37:331 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这块打的时候这个overlap的效果............
19:14 tutuhaha: 01:39:581 (9,10,11,12,1) - 还有这样
19:14 tutuhaha: *个
19:15 tutuhaha: 01:38:381 (6,7) - 这俩往下移一格
19:15 Shad0w1and: 01:39:581 (9,10) - 要重上么
19:15 tutuhaha: 01:39:581 (9) - 这个往上移1格
19:15 tutuhaha: 格子用最小的那种
19:16 tutuhaha: 01:43:331 (2) - 跳的有点儿大，移到x168 y196我觉得ok
19:17 tutuhaha: 01:46:481 (4) - 移到x104 y232
19:17 tutuhaha: 01:48:731 (4,5) - 01:39:131 (8,9) - 这俩的间距尽量统一一下，至少也别差太大
19:17 tutuhaha: 01:50:531 (3,4) - 太近了
19:18 tutuhaha: ^1.1x吧
19:18 tutuhaha: 01:56:081 (x) - 这块是有音的，不加音太奇怪勒
19:19 Shad0w1and: 01:56:081 - ？
19:19 tutuhaha: 01:56:531 (8,9,10,11,1) - 间距统一
19:19 Shad0w1and: 没吧
19:19 Shad0w1and: 听不到的
19:20 tutuhaha: 不加真的很奇怪很奇怪很奇怪很奇怪很奇怪
19:20 tutuhaha: 01:58:781 (5,6) - 还是刚刚说的overlap效果
19:20 tutuhaha: 大概需要把5移到x216 y28左右
19:22 tutuhaha: 01:58:781 (5,6) - 01:59:531 (1,2) - 然后这俩间距统一
19:22 Shad0w1and: 01:55:931 - ？还是说01:56:081 - ？
19:22 tutuhaha: 后面一个
19:23 tutuhaha: 02:05:681 (4,5) - 拉大间距
19:24 tutuhaha: 02:44:381 (5,6) - 缩小一点儿
19:24 tutuhaha: 大概1.6x左右
19:26 tutuhaha: 03:10:931 (6) - 移到x296 y164打起来比较好
19:26 tutuhaha: 03:16:781 (2,3) - 太大了大概移到x72 y104我觉得ok
19:27 tutuhaha: 03:19:181 (2,3) - 然后这个移到x364 y236左右
19:27 tutuhaha: 后面的间距稍微调整一下，自己
19:28 tutuhaha: 03:44:531 (1) - 把这个移到x360 y248这样接下来的连打会稍微好读一点
19:28 tutuhaha: 03:44:981 (2,3) - 然后这个下拉一点，HP条
19:29 tutuhaha: 03:46:331 (6,7,8) - 统一间距
19:29 Shad0w1and: orz怎么看出来的
19:29 tutuhaha: 03:49:931 (1,2,3) - 然后这个间距和^统一
19:29 Shad0w1and: 尺子么
19:30 tutuhaha: 03:51:131 (4,5,6) - 然后这个间距和^统一
19:30 tutuhaha: ..............就这么看出来的啊
19:31 tutuhaha: 03:59:531 (1,2,3) - 尾巴靠这么近感觉好奇怪啊逼死强迫症啊
19:31 tutuhaha: 但是这地方好挤啊
19:31 tutuhaha: 能不能2和3overlap
19:32 tutuhaha: 04:01:331 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 善待手残从我做起这里能不能改成slider+折返
19:32 tutuhaha: 04:00:131 (3,4) - 这块我也就忍了！
19:33 tutuhaha: 04:01:331 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 但是这块手残忍不了了！
19:33 tutuhaha: 04:01:931 (1,2,3,4) - 间距统一
19:33 tutuhaha: 以及这里可以稍微用大一点儿的间距比如2.0X
19:33 Shad0w1and: lol我已经看晕了
19:34 tutuhaha: 因为这块音乐↗的一下就上去了
19:34 tutuhaha: 你慢慢看我先打着
19:35 tutuhaha: 04:10:331 (3,4) - 这里间距搞大点强调一下后面的音是从蓝线起的
19:36 tutuhaha: 04:20:381 (4) - 依旧是overlap的那个效果，移到x204 y256
19:36 tutuhaha: 04:29:981 (5) - ^理由同上，往左移一格
19:37 Shad0w1and: 那个连打想留着额
19:37 tutuhaha: 跪
19:37 Shad0w1and: 爷爷才130bpm的连打啊
19:38 Shad0w1and: 不，姐姐
19:38 tutuhaha: Pia!(ｏ ｀-′)ノ”(ノ﹏<。)
19:38 tutuhaha: 叫谁爷爷呢！
19:38 tutuhaha: 后面overlap的那些我就不说了......你自己打打看.......你打的时候不烦么orz.........
19:39 tutuhaha: 05:16:781 (2) - 移到x416 y244
19:41 tutuhaha: 不对搞错了
19:42 tutuhaha: 05:16:781 (2) - 移到x412 y256
19:42 tutuhaha: 05:17:231 (3) - 然后这个移到x284 y104
19:42 tutuhaha: 05:17:531 (4) - 这个跳太恶心了overlap到 05:16:331 (1) - 的尾巴上
19:43 tutuhaha: 05:17:531 (4,5,6,7,1) - 然后以^为大前提把这个五个搞成五角星
19:44 tutuhaha: 05:36:431 (3,4) - 05:38:831 (4,5) - 间距统一
19:44 tutuhaha: 以上
19:44 tutuhaha: 然后给我自！己！打！一！遍！然后过来再找我recheck

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This Sky wrote:

#2

Yauxo wrote:

It is/would be. Why would you DQ a map from a new mapper, but let an equally bad map from a more known mapper pass? That wouldnt make too much sense

A DQ should happen because the map shouldnt be ranked, not because a newbie has made a mistake that others did before without having consequences

1. 01:45:131 (1,2,3) - Generally looks sloppy. Furthermore, the varying slider shapes look really untidy as well. It’d be better to stick to a single shape.
2. 03:12:431 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - Another messy pattern. 03:12:731 (3,4,1) - Why doesn't it have an equal spacing to them visually?
3. 03:12:431 (2,5,2) - ^
4. 03:28:931 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
5. 04:15:131 (3,4,5,6,1) - Does not seem to be done properly. Try using the function CTRL+ SHIFT + D and choose 5 circles, so you get an even spaced pentagon - then CTRL + G it until it’s a star, and rotate it as you wish.

1. 01:22:331 (3,4,1) - Overlap is untidy, and it's visible due to the low AR.
2. 01:47:531 (1,2,3) - Overlap, which does not fulfill any further purpose, does it? We’d like you to get rid off these, unless they are 100% intended.

1. 03:45:731 (4,5) -
2. 03:48:131 (2,3,4) -
3. 04:28:781 (2) -
4. 04:39:881 (6) -
5. 05:00:731 (3) -

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello, random mod.
This set was not in my scope when it was in pending o.o

Reachless

1. 00:23:531 (1,2,3,4) - the spacing is confusing here, due to the distance between these objects here 00:23:531 (1,2,3) - , the 1/4 gap here 00:24:131 (3,4) - is not really predictable, and there should be a higher distance between 00:23:531 (1,2,3) - to avoid this confusion.
2. 01:43:931 - i know you're usually follow vocals, but you should add a circle here to make this kiai more fun to play. The skipped note is clearly audible and the player feels that there is something empty here.
3. 01:46:031 (3,4) - i don't really get why there is a smaller distance between these objects, the distance between 01:45:581 (2,3) - or 01:45:131 (1,2) - are way larger than 01:46:031 (3,4) - , and it should be better if you make things consistent because there is no reason to add something like an antijump here, it is not really intuitive, so you should increase the distance between 01:46:031 (3,4) - .
4. 01:57:731 (3,4) - same reason as ^, this can be also confusing because the gap between objects are different, and that may be confusing.
5. 02:45:731 (2,3,4,5,6) - this looks really untidy, the distance between objects is different, and the flow is linear, i mean, straight and this can be uncomfortable to play, you should make something more structured or tidy here. keep for now
6. 03:52:031 (6,7) - this looks confusing here, because it is 1/2 and it could be confusing with the distance between 03:50:831 (3,4) - . You should increase the distance between 03:52:031 (6,7) - .
7. 04:09:581 - You're following vocal everywhere, and that looks really weird that you skip this note here, you should add a circle here to keep consistency throughout your map.
8. 05:21:731 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This looks really untidy here, because you can see that they are overlapped 05:22:331 (5,7) - . It should be better if you make this pattern more airy for a better impression and it will be neater.
9. 05:39:131 (5,6) - there should be a higher distance between these objects, you know the reason. (confusing etc.)

Good Luck.

1. 00:01:631 (3,4) - Kinda surprisingly, I suggest you to have them over regular spacing only, since this part isn't really suitable with that king of jump
2. 00:04:331 (3) - This circle placed on something a little less audible than the others . The worth beat actually on 00:04:181 - so please try to positioning again to this circle . If you do my suggestion, don't stack it for sake of readability
3. 00:12:281 - Unfortunately this beat is skipped . It's really strong according to its vocal and beat itself
4. 00:20:381 - Circle will fits better than end slider because of that strong cymbal here
5. 00:25:931 (1,2,3) - They looks like continuing play as 1/4, not 1/2 here . You may need to rearrange the position, to make it easier to differ them
6. 01:35:381 (7) - Seems likely this circle placed on inaudible beat
7. 01:55:931 - Seems this beat is wanted to be mapped, since it holds same amount of beat with the others before
8. 02:16:331 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - What are your aiming with those unnecessary breaks? Replace them with some pattern to accomplish the removal is more acceptable than keeping they emptied
9. 02:44:081 - 02:44:231 - Don't leave them empty . The sounds still continued and weird for being skipped here
10. 02:46:931 (7,1) - What do you think about this?
    
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11. 02:59:531 (8) - This one should be new combo-ed because of beat's cymbal
12. 03:24:731 - Same with similar part I'd mentioned before
13. 04:27:131 (6) - You fill this before then you should do the same with 04:27:281 -
14. 04:45:731 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Unnecessary breaks again
15. 05:40:331 (1,2,3,4) - Just think that those overlap aren't cute, sad . How about make them like this?
    
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Ipas wrote:

Hello!
As your request here! I'm going to push this map forward

I realized that the big 'dub' sound only appears on kiai . Why you didn't place it entirely over this diff? this will allow nice hitsounding towards the map nah i am ok with the current hitsound

[Reachless]

1. 00:01:631 (3,4) - Kinda surprisingly, I suggest you to have them over regular spacing only, since this part isn't really suitable with that king of jump i feel it is not that hard to follow, nah, might keep
2. 00:04:331 (3) - This circle placed on something a little less audible than the others . The worth beat actually on 00:04:181 - so please try to positioning again to this circle . If you do my suggestion, don't stack it for sake of readability added one extra note
3. 00:12:281 - Unfortunately this beat is skipped . It's really strong according to its vocal and beat itself ok
4. 00:20:381 - Circle will fits better than end slider because of that strong cymbal here well i think both worked, just i try to make a difference with the same rhythm in kiai, might want keep
5. 00:25:931 (1,2,3) - They looks like continuing play as 1/4, not 1/2 here . You may need to rearrange the position, to make it easier to differ them ok
6. 01:35:381 (7) - Seems likely this circle placed on inaudible beat well was intended to highlight the beat, but ok removed
7. 01:55:931 - Seems this beat is wanted to be mapped, since it holds same amount of beat with the others before ok
8. 02:16:331 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - What are your aiming with those unnecessary breaks? Replace them with some pattern to accomplish the removal is more acceptable than keeping they emptied well i think some short break is necessary for a 6 min map though... I think this should be fine.
9. 02:44:081 - 02:44:231 - Don't leave them empty . The sounds still continued and weird for being skipped here tried to do what you said, but seems over mapped for a hard diff. try to keep for now. (this map is more like a Hard so I think leave here empty should be acceptable)
10. 02:46:931 (7,1) - What do you think about this? change to another which also avoided overlap
    
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11. 02:59:531 (8) - This one should be new combo-ed because of beat's cymbal I think should be fine
12. 03:24:731 - Same with similar part I'd mentioned before ok
13. 04:27:131 (6) - You fill this before then you should do the same with 04:27:281 - fine
14. 04:45:731 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Unnecessary breaks again keep (6 min the short break give people a chance to pause)
15. 05:40:331 (1,2,3,4) - Just think that those overlap aren't cute, sad . How about make them like this? avoided overlap
    
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Ipas wrote:

#2
Discussed with mappers and do some changes

Chatlog

2015-11-24 05:57 Shad0w1and: hihi~ recheck request<3
2015-11-24 05:57 Ipas: Okay
2015-11-24 05:57 Ipas: Only IRC is fine right?
2015-11-24 05:57 Shad0w1and: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/542498 Ayane - Kakegae no Nai Omoi Zuttoisshoni]
2015-11-24 05:57 Shad0w1and: no
2015-11-24 05:57 Shad0w1and: not this one
2015-11-24 05:57 Shad0w1and: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/639435 Uehara Rena - closing]
2015-11-24 05:58 Shad0w1and: yeah
2015-11-24 05:59 Ipas: 00:02:081 (4) - Are you really don't want to nerf this one?
2015-11-24 06:00 Shad0w1and: i mean, the ds of 00:01:631 (3) -
2015-11-24 06:00 Shad0w1and: is about the same so maybe will be fine?
2015-11-24 06:00 Ipas: I don't realize it because the ds of 3 works fine
2015-11-24 06:00 Ipas: Okay
2015-11-24 06:01 Ipas: Not changing confirmed
2015-11-24 06:01 Ipas: When did you make this map? The sliders look like old
2015-11-24 06:02 Shad0w1and: 2years ago:/
2015-11-24 06:02 Shad0w1and: remapped one year ago
2015-11-24 06:03 Shad0w1and: (wel i really dont want remap it again so Orz)
2015-11-24 06:03 Ipas: 01:29:981 - I heard something here . It may be worth to be mapped to support 01:30:131 (8) - . Either, this sound could make some people misread about 01:30:131 (8) - as a 1/4
2015-11-24 06:03 Ipas: Because of 01:30:131 (8) - spacing
2015-11-24 06:05 Shad0w1and: well this map is more like a hard i dont know if i have to fill this?
2015-11-24 06:05 Shad0w1and: ok i will change
2015-11-24 06:05 Ipas: If not, move (8) furhter away just a little
2015-11-24 06:06 Ipas: 8 starts to confuse players that 8 is a 1/4
2015-11-24 06:06 Ipas: With that spacing in my opinion
2015-11-24 06:06 Ipas: Especially with that sound on 01:29:981 - 
2015-11-24 06:07 Shad0w1and: yeah
2015-11-24 06:07 Shad0w1and: i changed
2015-11-24 06:08 Ipas: 03:30:731 (1) - Maybe you can make this slider into constant pattern with 02:01:931 (3,4) - . 3/4 pattern here is really beautiful in my opinion
2015-11-24 06:10 Shad0w1and: http://puu.sh/lwnHx/49b2ec3366.jpg
2015-11-24 06:10 Ipas: 03:56:981 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - If you consider this as a Hard, this one is frustrating . They are too long and seems hard . Replace them to gain the same pattern with sliders is more acceptable with me
2015-11-24 06:10 Shad0w1and: like this?
2015-11-24 06:11 Ipas: No, don't use circle
2015-11-24 06:11 Ipas: Use a slider instead
2015-11-24 06:12 Shad0w1and: ok
2015-11-24 06:13 Ipas: 04:01:331 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Using this kind of pattern (1/6 stream) is really sudden . I recommend you to replace it with sliders instead
2015-11-24 06:14 Ipas: 03:11:531 (1) - Ah for 3/4 one, you can apply it on this slider too
2015-11-24 06:15 Ipas: 04:33:131 (1,2,3) - And here too
2015-11-24 06:16 Ipas: 05:04:331 (1,3,5) - Their overlap is untidy . Better to have a space between each of them
2015-11-24 06:17 Shad0w1and: nah a lot
2015-11-24 06:17 Ipas: 05:20:681 - Since you're following guitar around this part, why you don't map this one too?
2015-11-24 06:18 Ipas: 05:33:431 (2,4,6,8) - For overlap on 05:04:331 - , do the same with them also good
2015-11-24 06:19 Shad0w1and: 1/6 stream i want keep
2015-11-24 06:19 Ipas: Just that . If you want to ask something, then ask . If not, say which one you change and which one you don't . After that update~
2015-11-24 06:20 Shad0w1and: ok
2015-11-24 06:20 Ipas: But, for 1/6 stream, it's really sudden 
2015-11-24 06:22 Ipas: [http://puu.sh/lwooP/80879606f9.png You've made a spike on that part, so better to change to avoid unwanted things]
2015-11-24 06:23 Ipas: Looks like those "many" of 1/4 made that spike too
2015-11-24 06:23 Ipas: Please, I really recommend you to change it ><
2015-11-24 06:23 Shad0w1and: well, i did hint enough by the spacing imo, and many people think this is a fun part for this map
2015-11-24 06:24 Ipas: Please, change the 1/6 stream and the chain 1/4 around the same part
2015-11-24 06:25 Shad0w1and: well, place a slider there make no much sense
2015-11-24 06:25 Ipas: I can tolerate when the others are rejected, but for those two, I won't
2015-11-24 06:26 Shad0w1and: Orz, QATs did not mention this in both dq reasons
2015-11-24 06:27 Shad0w1and: i think should be safe though.. if no i can question it if they use this reason in third qs
2015-11-24 06:27 Shad0w1and: dq*&
2015-11-24 06:27 Ipas: Okay then . Just keep in mind what I said here
2015-11-24 06:28 Shad0w1and: ok
2015-11-24 06:28 Ipas: Which one you rejected? I can't understand about your explanation without timestamp before
2015-11-24 06:33 Shad0w1and: most about patterning i have fixed
2015-11-24 06:34 Shad0w1and: i guess pretty much all of them except i mentioned those two
2015-11-24 06:35 Shad0w1and: if you insist,i cuold change. but i woulrdlike to keep
2015-11-24 06:36 Ipas: Hmm
2015-11-24 06:37 Ipas: Please then >< I just afraid if that will affect on ranking progress
2015-11-24 06:37 Ipas: After fix update then tell me
2015-11-24 06:37 Shad0w1and: will do after
2015-11-24 06:39 Ipas: Okay
2015-11-24 06:39 Ipas: Update it

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Good Luck on Qualification!

jonathanlfj wrote:

see if it goes through this time