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str007
29 posts
Joined January 2010
str007
superT
esonic
purple night
perfect____x

they are the same person, he has a software named"OSUHelper"
hyt103 published password in "百度贴吧"(a public BBS)
boy15174 published password in viewtopic.php?f=25&t=28762&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=135
i think esonic stolen hyt103&boy15174's accounts, in retaliation to BAN his account
i strongly recommend peppy prohibit access to this IP
CXu
osu! Alumni
3,560 posts
Joined March 2009
CXu
Ohman.. Shut up about hyt... I get tired reading his/her name whenever something like this happens. Seriously, other people ARE capable of cheating, and there are people capable of getting good within a short period of time.

From what I can see, boy*somenumbersIdontremember* is a Taiko player, which can mean some things:
  1. Someone hacked him and then cheated
  2. Some bug/errorish thing
  3. He cheated
This thread is to report scores that doesn't look right. We report, someone looks into it in a formal manner. We really don't need accusations thrown everywhere.

(This is pretty much what many here try to say, I guess)
kaouji
92 posts
Joined February 2009
kaouji

CXu wrote:

Ohman.. Shut up about hyt... I get tired reading his/her name whenever something like this happens. Seriously, other people ARE capable of cheating, and there are people capable of getting good within a short period of time.

From what I can see, boy*somenumbersIdontremember* is a Taiko player, which can mean some things:
  1. Someone hacked him and then cheated
  2. Some bug/errorish thing
  3. He cheated
This thread is to report scores that doesn't look right. We report, someone looks into it in a formal manner. We really don't need accusations thrown everywhere.

(This is pretty much what many here try to say, I guess)
[-R-] says :" i wonder how many player from chinese that use a hack to this game"
how can i do not to explain it ? i'm a chinese also.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33942 [Normal]

top 3 lolol

edit: #2-4 =P
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mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Glasslake wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33942 [Normal]

top 3 lolol
Nice multi-acount! XD
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
If we ask peppy is possible make a little anticheat?, or is impossible in Osu?
don't know .. Need something to stop cheaters
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

LoweH wrote:

If we ask peppy is possible make a little anticheat?, or is impossible in Osu?
don't know .. Need something to stop cheaters
some kind of GameGuard ?
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

[-R-] wrote:

LoweH wrote:

If we ask peppy is possible make a little anticheat?, or is impossible in Osu?
don't know .. Need something to stop cheaters
some kind of GameGuard ?
Yes, for example with new osu updating osu you download it, it is built the game and maybe can check and find auto mouse movement programs in use, or can fix the "cheat" mods (halftime, relax, etc...)
Curisu
2,241 posts
Joined January 2010
Curisu

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8284

LOL,his ID was stolen
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen
SPOILER

Selee
1,556 posts
Joined February 2010
Selee
How did azurae getr a SS with 4mod in 1 PC...Is it possible?



mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Selee wrote:

How did azurae getr a SS with 4mod in 1 PC...Is it possible?
Use you 2 or 3 PC's? O_o....

Obvius is possible to do...
Selee
1,556 posts
Joined February 2010
Selee

mikhe wrote:

Selee wrote:

How did azurae getr a SS with 4mod in 1 PC...Is it possible?
Use you 2 or 3 PC's? O_o....

Obvius is possible to do...
lol, I just wonder how, 1PC=4modSS, I don't believe that...
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Selee wrote:

lol, I just wonder how, 1PC=4modSS, I don't believe that...
And you did it too, then can be two options:

-You use 2 pc's, you arent a legal player.. but it's oke.. isnt a cheat.
-You use 1 pc, you did a "strange score", like you said that he did...

(Third option can be.. he passed you in this map and you want his score be deleted lol)

In my opinion, are legals scores (both).. then dont say non-sense man, this thread is "This score doesn't look right", and it look right.
Selee
1,556 posts
Joined February 2010
Selee

mikhe wrote:

Selee wrote:

lol, I just wonder how, 1PC=4modSS, I don't believe that...
And you did it too, then can be two options:

-You use 2 pc's, you arent a legal player.. but it's oke.. isnt a cheat.
-You use 1 pc, you did a "strange score", like you said that he did...

(Third option can be.. he passed you in this map and you want his score be deleted lol)

In my opinion, are legals scores (both).. then dont say non-sense man, this thread is "This score doesn't look right", and it look right.
Ok @_@ Sorry, I take my words back.
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Niva
Global Moderator
3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva
Perhaps "keep retrying until you got a play without 300"? That's what I do sometimes, and if you do so, you will only get one play recorded on your "recent plays"...
azuraer is a good player, I don't think he's cheating.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

Nivalis wrote:

Perhaps "keep retrying until you got a play without 300"? That's what I do sometimes, and if you do so, you will only get one play recorded on your "recent plays"...
azuraer is a good player, I don't think he's cheating.
^

As someone who has done this numerous times in the past, yes, that is what most people do when they aim for #1 in some of the easier maps.
Selee
1,556 posts
Joined February 2010
Selee

Nivalis wrote:

Perhaps "keep retrying until you got a play without 300"? That's what I do sometimes, and if you do so, you will only get one play recorded on your "recent plays"...
azuraer is a good player, I don't think he's cheating.
@_@ forgot that...Sorry again...


http://osu.ppy.sh/b/58456
#1 lost man, weird track...spinner hax?
also in http://osu.ppy.sh/b/60376, #7
SomeGuyNamedDavid
96 posts
Joined February 2010
SomeGuyNamedDavid
Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu, Uninstall difficulty.
Few people full-comboed it, most getting twenty or more 100s and at least one 50, only one using a mod of any kind, then _____D suddenly comes along and scores perfectly using all of the mods. The replay of this score looked suspiciously bot-like.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

David08225 wrote:

Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu, Uninstall difficulty.
Few people full-comboed it, most getting twenty or more 100s and at least one 50, only one using a mod of any kind, then _____D suddenly comes along and scores perfectly using all of the mods. The replay of this score looked suspiciously bot-like.
Already been reported.
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol

David08225 wrote:

Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu, Uninstall difficulty.
Few people full-comboed it, most getting twenty or more 100s and at least one 50, only one using a mod of any kind, then _____D suddenly comes along and scores perfectly using all of the mods. The replay of this score looked suspiciously bot-like.
That's not a bot, he's just super skilled.
Niva
Global Moderator
3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva
http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=53923
ID: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/208718

A human do it on Hidden+Flashlight is 99.99% impossible, especially for those jumps on the second part of the song. Probably a macro user.
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
...it's pretty easy to memorize maps you know <_<

I mean, just look at what me and ShaggoN did on Marisa, bahahaha
ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc
yay memorization
deepsea
osu! Alumni
855 posts
Joined April 2008
deepsea
I hope people can have more points than "I cant do this" when accusing someone.
Arusha Shuna
1,793 posts
Joined August 2009
Arusha Shuna

deepsea wrote:

I hope people can have more points than "I cant do this" when accusing someone.
ShaggoN hax on marisa lol
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller
that replay actually IS pretty suspicious, I mean, the way he perfectly moves cursor to the circles which are completely invisible. And oh well, 79 tries for FL+HD on a jumpy map? I'm kinda not buying that. Though, not like anyone can prove him cheating as well.
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12483

This score doesn't look right!

with Hardrock ? i think its IMPOSSIBLE to FC it.
ShanaTan
184 posts
Joined August 2009
ShanaTan

Keksi wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12483

This score doesn't look right!

with Hardrock ? i think its IMPOSSIBLE to FC it.
Cookiezi is an extremely skilled player so I dno but that looks pretty impossible idd >.<
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

Keksi wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12483

This score doesn't look right!

with Hardrock ? i think its IMPOSSIBLE to FC it.

Cookiezi is able to play maps with an overall difficulty of 9 and 10 with perfect ease. He is arguably the best player in the business, so no surprises there.

Oh, and even if you can't believe it without seeing it with your own eyes, I advise you not to in-game PM him and ask him to play because

1. Most of his "impossible" records are set on weekends when he has access to a decent computer. On weekdays, he's stuck with his shitty PC, which lags like hell.

2. He is getting increasingly annoyed by people who PM him and ask him to play this and that, but is not mean enough to say "no, fuck off."

So leave him alone XD He's pro enough to do that, I can assure you.
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,865 posts
Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito
Hey guys,
here is something that didin't looks like a right ranking. -> http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=52342&m=1 -> Saki -> Taiko

Here the Pictures:
This is the Automode score: 50760P


This is Davitylant's score: 51960P


This is inpossiblexu's score: 51930P


This is OnosakiHito's score: 51000P


Here something we should now:


With slow -> x0,38
Without slow -> x1,26

1.) It's not possible that some one can get more points with x0,38 as some one who played with x1,26. Like Davitylant and inpossiblexu.
2.) And it's not possible that some one has more points as the Automode. Like other players and me.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

OnosakiHito wrote:

1.) It's not possible that some one can get more points with x0,38 as some one who played with x1,26. Like Davitylant and inpossiblexu.
2.) And it's not possible that some one has more points as the Automode. Like other players and me.
1.) Too bad if you didn't know, but when you HalfTime a song in taiko mode you get twice as many sliderticks, so it is possible to have a higher score with HalfTime.

2. Is the auto score without any modes or with the appropriate modes? i.e. are you sure the auto score does not have any modes and you or impossiblexu have one or more modes on?
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,865 posts
Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito
1.) That means it's not right with the x0,36 P? I think that would be a little bit strange.
- In other songs it's not possible to get more scores with half-time... that's the only one I saw now.

2.) I'm sure. The Automode and the players had the same modes. You can see it in the screens.
iqezZ
iqezZ

yangzd88 wrote:

[attachment=0:2ee6d]11.png[/attachment:2ee6d]
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8284

LOL,his ID was stolen

xDDDDD semipro player :PPPP
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Keksi wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12483

This score doesn't look right!

with Hardrock ? i think its IMPOSSIBLE to FC it.
It is possible, he showed me and almost FC'ed .. he is a pro player .. :3
Natteke
6,540 posts
Joined August 2009
Natteke
That's a lot of fucking cheaters these days man
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

OnosakiHito wrote:

1.) That means it's not right with the x0,36 P? I think that would be a little bit strange.
- In other songs it's not possible to get more scores with half-time... that's the only one I saw now.

Also, in taiko, you don't take the total score and x0.36 it. It's 300 + (whatever is added due to combo) * x0.36 for every note, so you are guaranteed at least 300 for every note.
Sure
4,220 posts
Joined February 2009
Sure
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34211
_____D's program works very well. :o
Niva
Global Moderator
3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva

ykcarrot wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34211
_____D's program works very well. :o
It's the third time it was reported here :P
About the player I reported before, 3.0x (not sure) spacing jumps, only separated by 1/2, and on 200+ flashlight+hidden combo, the circle is completely invisible (as TKiller said). I don't know, uh... just watch the replay, you'll see.
Maybe memorization too though... but it's still nearly impossible
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller

Nivalis wrote:

About the player I reported before, 3.0x (not sure) spacing jumps, only separated by 1/2, and on 200+ flashlight+hidden combo, the circle is completely invisible (as TKiller said). I don't know, uh... just watch the replay, you'll see.
Maybe memorization too though... but it's still nearly impossible
it's not that impossible, actually, but the number of retries is just wrong, there are very few people who can memorize maps that perfectly
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

Nivalis wrote:

ykcarrot wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34211
_____D's program works very well. :o
It's the third time it was reported here :P
About the player I reported before, 3.0x (not sure) spacing jumps, only separated by 1/2, and on 200+ flashlight+hidden combo, the circle is completely invisible (as TKiller said). I don't know, uh... just watch the replay, you'll see.
Maybe memorization too though... but it's still nearly impossible
in my opinion that imposibble :D

the cursor movement is suspicious too :D
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

[-R-] wrote:

in my opinion that imposibble :D

the cursor movement is suspicious too :D
It's not about his playing style, but about his reputation and date of registration. New players don't do score like this, especially with not many plays. Also - I haven't seen him in top50 on ANY of maps that are in his top play count (I can add that I haven't seen him anywhere else too). This guy stinks.
Piotrekol
1,002 posts
Joined March 2010
Piotrekol
i wanna report 100% bot player -> _____D
look on his demo at this map (Uninstall):
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34211
i think that other demos are also intresting.

Peace.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
^ Already reported 4 times.
Hurude Rika
Hurude Rika

Asenath wrote:

Ok, this guy [KOR]IKA
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/231875

in these two maps has weird scores

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=38359&m=2
SPOILER

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=51205&m=2
SPOILER

I saw the replays, and also some friends saw them, and every time he does a jump it starts moving slower as if it were half time.





can i show you?

and I'm RIKA!
Colin Hou
osu! Alumni
4,456 posts
Joined November 2009
Colin Hou
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51987

DJ Changsta - River Flows In You (Hikato's Flow)

#1 OSUHelper Hidden,Flashlight SS.

He got this SS less than 4 play counts.

He have only 166 total play counts lol.

I think this guy is really pro or a cheater.
kaouji
92 posts
Joined February 2009
kaouji
you know?
“OSUHelper” also is a name of a cheat trainer for Osu!
made by esonic.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

kaouji wrote:

you know?
“OSUHelper” also is a name of a cheat trainer for Osu!
made by esonic.
LOL, http://osu.ppy.sh/u/344567
Zetta
334 posts
Joined December 2009
Zetta
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/lemonwater

LemonWater seems extremely suspicious to me.

This guy plays 24/7

I know he's Japanese and all but come on. The past week or two, every new song that's come out he's been number 1 on it.

I'm sorry if you're just a HUGE fan of Osu or something but goddamn man you raise some suspicions, 15,000 plays in May and June, Fifteen THOUSAND. That's more than I've played since I BEGAN playing Osu in December.

It's either 2-3 guys playing on one account or some king of motion bot (I know it sounds far-fetched)
DeathxShinigami
1,176 posts
Joined November 2008
DeathxShinigami
It is summer time after all :roll:

Go look at taNa's playcount then what do you say? O:
Galkan
Global Moderator
2,024 posts
Joined September 2009
Galkan
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/94

Explain me #1 on [Breezin]
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Galkan92 wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/94

Explain me #1 on [Breezin]
Easy to explain 8-)

Spinner-Hack
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
Bigboss87 is in the lead! (2 years ago and counting)

Spinner formula was different back then.
Zetta
334 posts
Joined December 2009
Zetta

DeathxShinigami wrote:

It is summer time after all :roll:

Go look at taNa's playcount then what do you say? O:
You have a point but Tana last played 15 hours ago.

Lemonwater only just stopped playing 3 hours ago from what I'm assuming was a 10+ hour play session judging from his highscores. Something is extremely fishy about him.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Glasslake wrote:

Bigboss87 is in the lead! (2 years ago and counting)

Spinner formula was different back then.
Oh yeah, i didnt see how many time was in lead... 2 years.. is the maximum lol (soon, can be 3 years lol)
Maybe the algorythm to give score in spinners was different.. i dunno
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
its not a rank 1. but rank 14 on Emerald Sword
Someone called Auto_ got rank 14 with hard rock and double time. the guy 's in the rank 29,500 and only 20 plays on the map. thats really not right
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

Zettaslow wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/lemonwater

LemonWater seems extremely suspicious to me.

This guy plays 24/7

I know he's Japanese and all but come on. The past week or two, every new song that's come out he's been number 1 on it.

I'm sorry if you're just a HUGE fan of Osu or something but goddamn man you raise some suspicions, 15,000 plays in May and June, Fifteen THOUSAND. That's more than I've played since I BEGAN playing Osu in December.

It's either 2-3 guys playing on one account or some king of motion bot (I know it sounds far-fetched)
no

he's playing osu at all time and all day
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi

deadbeat wrote:

its not a rank 1. but rank 14 on Emerald Sword
Someone called Auto_ got rank 14 with hard rock and double time. the guy 's in the rank 29,500 and only 20 plays on the map. thats really not right

We already know about it.
Galkan
Global Moderator
2,024 posts
Joined September 2009
Galkan
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8284

[Uninstall] #1
Beuchi
osu! Alumni
2,288 posts
Joined February 2009
Beuchi

Glasslake wrote:

^ Already reported 4 times.
Let's say 5.
ekopret8ks
ekopret8ks
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/15226

Normal, #8 - Hardrock score.

Spinner - 477 spins per minute
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

lllllllllllllllllll wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/15226

Normal, #8 - Hardrock score.

Spinner - 477 spins per minute
SPOILER

shti happens
Zetta
334 posts
Joined December 2009
Zetta

lllllllllllllllllll wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/15226

Normal, #8 - Hardrock score.

Spinner - 477 spins per minute

It's a legit spin. KIA is the best spinner on Osu.
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

Zettaslow wrote:

It's a legit spin. KIA is the best spinner on Osu.

KIA
1,754 posts
Joined February 2009
KIA
(ﾉﾟωﾟ)ﾉ
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

KIA wrote:

(ﾉﾟωﾟ)ﾉ
(☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay
just passing by to report a multi
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/aroma123

he joined a week ago, has 1k playcount and did some interesting scores:
SPOILER
SPOILER

confirmed to be a multi by m980 as you can see on the 1st pic, but I'm not sure he reported him so that's why I'm posting. Also, please don't mind my paint skills. kthx

m980
Elite Mapper
1,234 posts
Here since the beginning
m980
I did report him. Stop assuming stuff.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
multi account - http://osu.ppy.sh/u/403507
1 play on Red Sign and SS, cool story bro

edit: Sorry, this guy is a cheater, he probably uses some kinda slow down mode, he just S'ed Marisa with 3 100's.
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
That made me look at the Marisa scores...

...Cookiezi, you dick D:
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay

m980 wrote:

Stop assuming stuff.
I didn't assume anything, like I said, I was unsure whether you reported him or not, so I reported him myself just in case.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
cheater has increased a lot 0.0
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
Username : pkiller

joined four days ago, SSs Hatsune Miku, Megurine Luka - Magnet [Hard] for the first time,

and then sets #2 record on Silver Forest - Eternally Unreachable Distance [Lunatic] with Hidden.

His replays also seem a little bit strange, often times his cursor moves long distances at a constant velocity like an auto play would do.

Definitely something fishy about this player.


EDIT : @Bullsh0t well if you've played other rhythm games before i guess you could do that on easy or normal, but lunatic is a completely different story.
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Bullsh0t
37 posts
Joined June 2010
Bullsh0t
Things like that are never sure. Thats just like me, I got 4th place on 'That Goddamn Fish' at the day I joined.
Even though, I did that on normal difficulty, and he/she did on hard and lunatic. And from what you last said, it would be impossible for a human to keep the exact same speed.

So yes, there is something going on here.
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=33709&m=1

Kazumi Totaka - Star Maze
Hard
Taiko
kjh628200 1st place
Lol watch the replay :V
He hits like every finisher right in the 1/4 rolls.
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi
Here !

A German player

he played 6 days from rank #10000 to #711 possible for a new player?

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15438

5 Different IPs
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy

Keksi wrote:

Here !

A German player

he played 6 days from rank #10000 to #711 possible for a new player?

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15438

5 Different IPs
He didn't played ALL DAY without stopping it one second?
Sometimes
Asenath
91 posts
Joined November 2009
Asenath
Plase somebody explain this D:

ash411 (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/147645) 80.58% got D and 1st place in this map

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=59654&m=2

SPOILER

the same in this map got D and it's between highscores O_o

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=60558&m=2

SPOILER
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
In Catch the Beat, each fruit droplet is only worth 10 points but contributes as much as any other note towards the accuracy. On the other hand, each spinner note is worth 1100 points. As such, if one does better on the spinners, they can miss 110 fruit droplets before getting the same score as someone else who caught one less fruit during a spinner, while having a far worse accuracy, which is what happened there.
Derekku
COOL DUDE
7,270 posts
Joined March 2009
Derekku

pieguy1372 wrote:

In Catch the Beat, each fruit droplet is only worth 10 points but contributes as much as any other note towards the accuracy. On the other hand, each spinner note is worth 1100 points. As such, if one does better on the spinners, they can miss 110 fruit droplets before getting the same score as someone else who caught one less fruit during a spinner, while having a far worse accuracy, which is what happened there.
so basically they're just showing off :p (provided it's legit)
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Hi

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/14984

Position #01 - Difficulty "animask's Juice"

Player : aroma123 (rank 1,200 and get only 2 100s + Sudden Death, little obv)

so ~ he is MoNyu

SPOILER
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller

DJ KRZY wrote:

Username : pkiller
lawl
blacksymbian
585 posts
Joined December 2008
blacksymbian

Asenath wrote:

Plase somebody explain this D:

ash411 (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/147645) 80.58% got D and 1st place in this map

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=59654&m=2

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the same in this map got D and it's between highscores O_o

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=60558&m=2

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same here..

this doesn't look right..

ign: ash411

ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc
once again, he is just showing off. I watched the replay and he/she purposely misses the fruit droplets and catches a bunch of the spinner fruits. And yes the replay is legit
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

ouranhshc wrote:

once again, he is just showing off. I watched the replay and he/she purposely misses the fruit droplets and catches a bunch of the spinner fruits. And yes the replay is legit
Yes, is legal... please stop to advise these replays....
People that do it, only do for fun..., only get C or D rank
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
ownz ~
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ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc

LoweH wrote:

hyt103 style
really, dude >_>
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

ouranhshc wrote:

LoweH wrote:

is impossible get silver hidden with 10 100s in 7 min .. hyt103 style
really, dude
what? I mentioned a similar case, and we aren't here for talk about him
Beuchi
osu! Alumni
2,288 posts
Joined February 2009
Beuchi
I'm with ouran in this one.

Colored has been here for a pretty long time, and I've seen a lot of records of him. 10 100's? What's wrong with it. If you can call him a cheater then can I call H1ko a cheater for SS'ing a lot of so hard songs? Or Cookiezi? Or hvick225? NO

Seriously, LoweH, stop this. Report things that are OBVIOUS like spinner or auto hacks, not people that S'd a hard song with so few 100's. You're just making another flame war with no reason.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Beuchi-chan wrote:

I'm with ouran in this one.

Colored has been here for a pretty long time, and I've seen a lot of records of him. 7 100's? What's wrong with it. If you can call him a cheater then can I call H1ko a cheater for SS'ing a lot of so hard songs? Or Cookiezi? Or hvick225? NO

Seriously, LoweH, stop this. Report things that are OBVIOUS like spinner or auto hacks, not people that S'd a hard song with so few 100's. You're just making another flame war with no reason.
beuchi problem isn't 10 100s, but he got it in 10 min + hidden ... so i'm flaming ok, sorry for fake report, stop here you are right .. i won't a flame thread ..
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Sorry for double post

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/3575

position #13 http://osu.ppy.sh/u/403507

Rank #22,843 and 12 playcounts, 1 plays - Kevin.o2SE - Red Sign [DaRRi MIx] and SS'ed

No multi account

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Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

LoweH wrote:

Sorry for double post

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/3575

position #13 http://osu.ppy.sh/u/403507

Rank #22,843 and 12 playcounts, 1 plays - Kevin.o2SE - Red Sign [DaRRi MIx] and SS'ed

No multi account

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That guy also has an S on IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita with only 3 100s.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

Glasslake wrote:

LoweH wrote:

Sorry for double post

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/3575

position #13 http://osu.ppy.sh/u/403507

Rank #22,843 and 12 playcounts, 1 plays - Kevin.o2SE - Red Sign [DaRRi MIx] and SS'ed

No multi account

SPOILER
That guy also has an S on IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita with only 3 100s.
already been reported
1miko1
38 posts
Joined April 2009
1miko1
I know that kanopu was alredy reported for cheating in Marisa, but i would like to report him again. I was trying to get 1st place, so i just watched Kanopu's Rokodo's and Youngdow's replays carefully. Also i amde some counting and tried to play song in HT. Conclusion was , that this isn't 1/8 stream. Its 1/16 stream, because of strange slider->note conversion. I wasn't able to FC marisa on HT, while I am able to play song like:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5672
I can pass 1/4 250bpm stream easily, so i don't think that 1/8 stream using 170bpm and ht should be any problem, while it was. So, 16x170bpm= 2720
2720/60=45,(3)
That means that in order to FC that stream you would have to press keyboard/button/tatacon or w/e over 45 per secod which is pretty impossbile.
Also Rokodo's replay looks complete unrealistic. He doubled clicked all the notes. And it's impossbile to double click in the deathstream because of the insane speed. So he used bot (macro probably), because he passed youngdow by over 100k, which mean he had to double click the notes inside the deathstream.
My conclusion is that highest score achieved without cheating is youngdow one, which still looks strange for me (getting such combos on deathstream?) but it is possible probably to do that using mouse+keyboard somehow. Also if kanopu/Rokodo didn't cheat they will be able to post a video.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

1miko1 wrote:

I know that kanopu was alredy reported for cheating in Marisa, but i would like to report him again. I was trying to get 1st place, so i just watched Kanopu's Rokodo's and Youngdow's replays carefully. Also i amde some counting and tried to play song in HT. Conclusion was , that this isn't 1/8 stream. Its 1/16 stream, because of strange slider->note conversion. I wasn't able to FC marisa on HT, while I am able to play song like:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5672
I can pass 1/4 250bpm stream easily, so i don't think that 1/8 stream using 170bpm and ht should be any problem, while it was. So, 16x170bpm= 2720
2720/60=45,(3)
That means that in order to FC that stream you would have to press keyboard/button/tatacon or w/e over 45 per secod which is pretty impossbile.
Also Rokodo's replay looks complete unrealistic. He doubled clicked all the notes. And it's impossbile to double click in the deathstream because of the insane speed. So he used bot (macro probably), because he passed youngdow by over 100k, which mean he had to double click the notes inside the deathstream.
My conclusion is that highest score achieved without cheating is youngdow one, which still looks strange for me (getting such combos on deathstream?) but it is possible probably to do that using mouse+keyboard somehow. Also if kanopu/Rokodo didn't cheat they will be able to post a video.
Click is both reds, so you can say maybe this replay if before the mouse click change, but always all notes are with double, so he must play with 1 mouse key and did 1/16 streams (i can say is too with 2 fingers is almost impossible 1/16), or use macro .. (macro not allowed)

(i mean if he used a key on the keyboard and one of mouse, in replay you see 1 note with both press and other with normal press, so i think is only mouse)
Zekira
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Joined September 2008
Zekira
THAT IS 1/8 STREAM, YOU'RE JUST PRESSING IT WRONG.

170 x 8 = 1360, 250 x 4 = 1000. Marisa's 1/8 streams are faster than 250BPM's 1/4 streams. Now let's take into account HT... that would make Marisa's BPM reduced to 127.5 . 127.5 x 8 = 1020, which is STILL FASTER than 250BPM's 1/4 streams.

Conclusion: you're doing it wrong.

Also just to remind that half-time makes a song go 0.75x slower and not 0.5x slower. Maybe even 0.8x, IDR.

I still do have suspicion on kanopu though. Well, with Rokodo... errr, maybe I'll keep that issue to myself just to avoid commotion. youngdow himself did say that with the TaTaCon you can pretty much do that though (believe it or not, I've tried; indeed you CAN press faster on the drum than on the keyboard, mainly because of the opposite force that goes to your hand when you hit the drum, making movement a bit easier)

To check, maybe I can make a Yawaraka-type Taiko map on http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9917 , and someone try to clear that with an FC. I know youngdow can do that lol
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Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Zekira wrote:

THAT IS 1/8 STREAM, YOU'RE JUST PRESSING IT WRONG.

170 x 8 = 1360, 250 x 4 = 1000. Marisa's 1/8 streams are faster than 250BPM's 1/4 streams. Now let's take into account HT... that would make Marisa's BPM reduced to 127.5 . 127.5 x 8 = 1020, which is STILL FASTER than 250BPM's 1/4 streams.

Conclusion: you're doing it wrong.

Also just to remind that half-time makes a song go 0.75x slower and not 0.5x slower. Maybe even 0.8x, IDR.

I still do have suspicion on kanopu though. Well, with Rokodo... errr, maybe I'll keep that to myself. youngdow himself did say that with the TaTaCon you can pretty much do that though (believe it or not, I've tried; indeed you CAN press faster on the drum than on the keyboard, mainly because of the opposite force that goes to your hand when you hit the drum, making movement a bit easier)
So with 1/8 is faster 250BPM's how you said, is possible with 1 finger ? o_o
(i'm not accusing, i want only understand)

about kanopu, maybe is possible but all 300's? 0.0 he is a robot x]
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
with 1 finger
Be reminded that mouse clicks count as the left side of the drum (changed in latest build, mouse click doesn't register both sides anymore). If his right hand was on the mouse, and his left was on the left-side bindings, it would then make sense.

My previous post was addressed to 1miko1 btw.

I really need to solve this mystery... I only need some proof X_X
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Zekira wrote:

with 1 finger
Be reminded that mouse clicks count as the left side of the drum (changed in latest build, mouse click doesn't register both sides anymore). If his right hand was on the mouse, and his left was on the left-side bindings, it would then make sense.

My previous post was addressed to 1miko1 btw.

I really need to solve this mystery... I only need some proof X_X
His name is Zekira, Zekira Bond *007 music* btw, for me taiko needs more care about cheaters, etc ... people don't care so much
ouranhshc
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Joined July 2009
ouranhshc

LoweH wrote:

for me taiko needs more care about cheaters, etc ... people don't care so much
Why do you always assume one is a cheater when something questionable happens
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