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MBomb
that moment when you realise you didn't get a result bc somebody prob visited you
you being visited has nothing to do with what YOU hear afaik.
Sakura wrote:
anyone taking no action will be able to know if a player above or below them was targeted or targeted someone described as "hearing sounds above/below".
>implying that I'm actually not a JOAT with one of the abilities being double vote for one day
Yeah I heard votes, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
Yeah I heard votes, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
Topic Starter
If you didnt get a result, means you didnt hear any sound.Setsuen wrote:
@Mod:I DIDN'T GET MY N3 RESULT WHY
I'm waiting for the next VC to reveal yet another double voter lol
MBomb
I know that, I was just checking because if you said no we'd have known one of you were lying unless scum had the ability to target someone and make them hear no sound, which I'd highly doubt but it's possible.Ace Timing wrote:
>implying that I'm actually not a JOAT with one of the abilities being double vote for one day
Yeah I heard votes, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
I'm curious about haneii's bonded name jazz
Topic Starter
Vote Count 4.02
sLaiNi (2) - notscience, Amianki
Not Voting (7) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull, Drezi, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi (2) - notscience, Amianki
Not Voting (7) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull, Drezi, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
so MB literally did nothing then. 10/10 I wish I got a better house
*bolded
@RB wanna elaborate on your little outburst?
Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
VOTE: Slaini
That's L-1 don't hammer 🔨 pls
What makes you say that Ace? I've been thinking about the setup for a while now and I can't think of anything that would preclude a doctor being in the setup.
noise from slaini -> no kill tonight -> "we prob don't have a doc, so I vote him" ??Ace Timing wrote:
Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
I don't have any particular problem with a slaini wagon happening, but what exactly are you suggesting happened this night then?
Based on the known roles now, the only available options I see are notty you and drezi. Neither of you indicate any sings of being a doctor except for you and I haven't heard any sounds from you.
^ aimed at amianki
and you're speculating on who might be a town doc because..?
He could've been roleblocked. Or, even if I don't necessarily fully agree with this despite its probable validity, he could've submitted the NK for haneii and doc protected him, which could explain his bolded name. That's one reason,however I believe there is no doc, but I can't ignore this scenario just because of a gut feeling with a tinge of logic. And therefore, I vote.Drezi wrote:
noise from slaini -> no kill tonight -> "we prob don't have a doc, so I vote him" ??Ace Timing wrote:
Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
I don't have any particular problem with a slaini wagon happening, but what exactly are you suggesting happened this night then?
Because I mentioned it before.Drezi wrote:
and you're speculating on who might be a town doc because..?
Haneii could be BP whose name gets bolded when her vest gets popped for all we know.
That is also true.
I don't care, you don't do it as town...Ace Timing wrote:
Because I mentioned it before.
I don't know why my name is in bold.
Setsuen: did you hear a noise night 3?
Setsuen: did you hear a noise night 3?
MBomb
So lemme get this straight.Drezi wrote:
I don't care, you don't do it as town...Ace Timing wrote:
Because I mentioned it before.
If person a says person s could be town because of the existence of a doctor
and person a later says the chances of that happening is low and retracts their earlier statement.
and person c asks for the reasoning behind this
person a shouldn't answer, because the reason involves trying to prove the unlikeliness of the current doctor candidates being doctor and is therefore anti-town.
person a should leave their reasoning ambiguous and up in the air.
This is basically what you're implying.
Sorry, MB. I'm trying to find where he says that but I'm struggling to find anything using my phone.
if you don't mind, can you quote it?
Can someone also check if setsuwn has ever placed a vote after day 1.
@Mod: can important events be linked in the op (day start/end), please?
if you don't mind, can you quote it?
Can someone also check if setsuwn has ever placed a vote after day 1.
@Mod: can important events be linked in the op (day start/end), please?
Has to be with the fact there was no kill last night.Drezi wrote:
hey RB, why exactly would I tell you that? why would you even ask me that?
MBomb
you don't need to speculate who might be a doc to make your point.Ace Timing wrote:
person a should leave their reasoning ambiguous and up in the air.
an NK did not happen, so scum did not submit one or it had been blocked somehow (jail doc commute bp), so I don't think us having a protective is THAT unlikely. it doesn't make slaini town, he could have performed the NK with the target being protected, or him jailed etc.
MBomb
so since Haneii doesn't know why she is bolded. I am guessing that it is a scum ability bc no one claimed to do it and I am also going to guess that it is a random ability that marks Haneii to be automatically killed by the end of D4.
If not I don't trust pie's Haneii is town statement anymore.
If not I don't trust pie's Haneii is town statement anymore.
my other guess would have been a scum motivator ability that allowed Haneii to double vote or something but then why would scum be dumb enough to motivate themselves for all to see amiright
MBomb
My main concern is the fact that Haneii got bolded with:
1. Me hearing no sound.
2. Setsuen hearing no sound (In case I got targetted by some scum ability that made me unable to hear sounds).
3. Despite point 1, Haneii still asks if Setsuen heard a sound, despite the fact Haneii should know, considering I heard no sound from below me, meaning they used no action, and even if I heard sound below me, they're (As far as we know) a D3 doublevoter.
1. Me hearing no sound.
2. Setsuen hearing no sound (In case I got targetted by some scum ability that made me unable to hear sounds).
3. Despite point 1, Haneii still asks if Setsuen heard a sound, despite the fact Haneii should know, considering I heard no sound from below me, meaning they used no action, and even if I heard sound below me, they're (As far as we know) a D3 doublevoter.
Actually yeah, i didnt hear a sound from haneii.
@haneii. Did you hear a sound?
@haneii. Did you hear a sound?
MBomb
My main thoughts on what could've happened are:
1. Haneii has some kind of ninja ability, where I hear no sounds at night, but instead they are bolded the following day. This would most likely lead to him being scum, as I don't see this benefitting town.
2. Haneii was targetted/used an ability, and someone used something on me that involves me being unable to hear sounds, whilst also being unheard by others (Idk kinda like a commuter that targets someone else? Idk if a role like this exists but it's possible). This would be null, it wouldn't matter what role Haneii has.
3. Haneii got targetted by some kind of ninja scum, and is a JOAT with D3 doublevote, where when a second ability is used, they are bolded. This would of course lead to Haneii being town, as scum would not target one of their own teammates.
I'm not sure which of these is most likely, but considering my townread on Haneii right now, I'd say 1 is least likely, to me, although all of these explanations seem quite unlikely to me, they're just my main thoughts.
1. Haneii has some kind of ninja ability, where I hear no sounds at night, but instead they are bolded the following day. This would most likely lead to him being scum, as I don't see this benefitting town.
2. Haneii was targetted/used an ability, and someone used something on me that involves me being unable to hear sounds, whilst also being unheard by others (Idk kinda like a commuter that targets someone else? Idk if a role like this exists but it's possible). This would be null, it wouldn't matter what role Haneii has.
3. Haneii got targetted by some kind of ninja scum, and is a JOAT with D3 doublevote, where when a second ability is used, they are bolded. This would of course lead to Haneii being town, as scum would not target one of their own teammates.
I'm not sure which of these is most likely, but considering my townread on Haneii right now, I'd say 1 is least likely, to me, although all of these explanations seem quite unlikely to me, they're just my main thoughts.
Topic Starter
I added them. Let's hope i don't forget to keep it updated this time.Haneii wrote:
@Mod: can important events be linked in the op (day start/end), please?
MBomb
Ninja only modifies like tracker rigbt? As in tracker wont know who targetted someone.
And i dont get 3. If there is joat for scum, wont tjey be more inclined to target their teammates? Like that madoka game with scum doc.
Depending on haneii answer, i think its something simple.
Depending on haneii answer, i think its something simple.
Oh sorry, I meant N2, setsuen. Did you hear a sound the night before?
Don't have time to read the last couple of pages up until this point atm. Will go through everything and respond to any questions when I get home tonight.
I obv heard a sound N2. Hello, the person above me DIED FOR GOSH SAKE.
@MB JOAT isn't always a scum role.
So you heard a sound because you did no action that night, right?
Also, can you please vote for someone besides slaini right now and leave it until the next vote count.
Waiting out a thunderstorm before driving home >.> Reading through thread in the meantime I guess.
Also, can you please vote for someone besides slaini right now and leave it until the next vote count.
Waiting out a thunderstorm before driving home >.> Reading through thread in the meantime I guess.
Oh yeah
V/LA for the whole weekend. September 4/5
Timezone difference. Should be weekend here when its septeber 4 and 5.
V/LA for the whole weekend. September 4/5
Timezone difference. Should be weekend here when its septeber 4 and 5.
Topic Starter
Noted.Raging Bull wrote:
Oh yeah
V/LA for the whole weekend. September 4/5
Timezone difference. Should be weekend here when its septeber 4 and 5.
Vote:drezi
I am going to lol if you think I am a double voter.
I am going to lol if you think I am a double voter.
Just in case ^_^
Topic Starter
Vote Count 4.03
sLaiNi (4) - notscience, Amianki, - Magic Bomb -, Ace Timing [L-1]
Drezi (1) - Setsuen
Not Voting (4) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi (4) - notscience, Amianki, - Magic Bomb -, Ace Timing [L-1]
Drezi (1) - Setsuen
Not Voting (4) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
@MB
On Pg 88
Tl;dr I’m curious and still suspicious of setsuen.
On Pg 88
Why did you vote slaini here?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Why Drezi?Raging Bull wrote:
Hey drezi, whats your role.
Also Vote: slaini
Yeah, sorry about that. I derped. I meant night 2. I wanted to get more info about his role (inb4 role fishing). Just wanted to make sure about something (ie: He’s heard a sound all 3 nights which means he doesn't perform night actions - however might choose not to do them-, which made me suspicious of the fact that he doesn’t vote during the day. That’s why I asked him to vote. Not necessarily to see if he was a double voter – I don’t think he would hide it if he was one – but to see if his vote would do anything. Sorry, just a bit paranoid because I don’t believe his claim.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Actually, Haneii, could I ask why you asked if Setsuen heard a sound? Surely, being below me, you should also know.
Tl;dr I’m curious and still suspicious of setsuen.
No.Raging Bull wrote:
@haneii. Did you hear a sound?
Thank youSakura wrote:
I added them. Let's hope i don't forget to keep it updated this time.
Waiting to hear from Slaini.
EBWOP: I meant to write "he heard a noise both nights", not all 3 nights. And I beleive he didn't hear anything night 3 because of his initial conclusion of why he didn't hear anything last night.
@Sakura, that roleplay text at the end of D3 made me laugh so hard, thanks for the good start in the morning back then 
Ace, so you heard me making sounds, too? Your actions feel like it, but just to make sure.
If that's the case, basically there are following options I guess:
1. I got targeted by scum and was saved by a doctor.
2. Noone did anything with me and instead someone else was tried to be killed, and scum used a ability to shift the sounds to me.
3. Scum did not do anything and instead just lies now about me making sounds. The chance of this is round about 0%. I just wanted to name this here.
Also, did Amianki ever reveal his/her role? I just want to know if he did, not what it is.
Don't hammer me, and if someone hammers me feel free to lynch him next day.
Ace, so you heard me making sounds, too? Your actions feel like it, but just to make sure.
If that's the case, basically there are following options I guess:
1. I got targeted by scum and was saved by a doctor.
2. Noone did anything with me and instead someone else was tried to be killed, and scum used a ability to shift the sounds to me.
3. Scum did not do anything and instead just lies now about me making sounds. The chance of this is round about 0%. I just wanted to name this here.
Also, did Amianki ever reveal his/her role? I just want to know if he did, not what it is.
Don't hammer me, and if someone hammers me feel free to lynch him next day.
MBomb
What does crumb mean?Amianki wrote:
No. I have never roleclaimed and I never crumb.
MBomb
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).Haneii wrote:
@MB
On Pg 88Why did you vote slaini here?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Also Vote: slaini
Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
[quote="- Magic Bomb -"][quote="Haneii"]
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).
Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).
Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).
Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
[Repost] the other one fd the quotes up
MBomb
Hmm, I don't understand your question here.sLaiNi wrote:
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).
Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
I think Haneii is the only person left here who still don't know why I claimed Miller D1 while KNOWING that I don't visit
Why do you think Amianki is scum.-Magic Bomb- wrote:
Hmm, I don't understand your question here.
MBomb
How?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.
vote drezi
As for haneii bolded name, i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.
As for slaini, i dont know why scum would make slaini do the kill if jess did the same and was near ns
As for haneii bolded name, i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.
As for slaini, i dont know why scum would make slaini do the kill if jess did the same and was near ns
why would you think that? Did you perform an action last night?Raging Bull wrote:
i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.
Also, if Drezi was scum, why have Jess perform the kill?
I was wondering if someone tried to perform an action on me (I'm thinking trying to switch me with another house), and it didn't go through/work because I've already moved once. I find it odd that this game has a treehouse setup/flavour, but the busdriver is one shot.
Raging Bull wrote:
Has to be with the fact there was no kill last night.Drezi wrote:
hey RB, why exactly would I tell you that? why would you even ask me that?
Ughhhh that is also true. It would have made more sense to always send drezi for a kill. The only thing i can think of that would make sense would be ns drezi jess team which ns pushes for jess lynch to look more town and distance drezi moreHaneii wrote:
Also, if Drezi was scum, why have Jess perform the kill?
Maybe for that explicit reasonRaging Bull wrote:
vote drezi
As for haneii bolded name, i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.
As for slaini, i dont know why scum would make slaini do the kill if jess did the same and was near ns
Anyways, I don't recall slaini being a particularly townread person, worthy of a protect or even being killed.
Do you?
1) You aren't a widely townread player, this is hard to believe.sLaiNi wrote:
1. I got targeted by scum and was saved by a doctor.
2. Noone did anything with me and instead someone else was tried to be killed, and scum used a ability to shift the sounds to me.
3. Scum did not do anything and instead just lies now about me making sounds. The chance of this is round about 0%. I just wanted to name this here.
2) If they had this ability wouldn't they have used this before?
3) lol.
Also who else was a doublevoter?
I know Slaini was but I forget who the others are. I think the best course of action is to purge the scum in that set and then figure out whoever's left.
I know Slaini was but I forget who the others are. I think the best course of action is to purge the scum in that set and then figure out whoever's left.
Look at VC. I am obv double voter instead of miller.
Pretty sure Ace claimed Double Voter on like D2.
Pretty sure Ace claimed Double Voter on like D2.
Hey RB, can you answer this question for me, please?Haneii wrote:
why would you think that? Did you perform an action last night?Raging Bull wrote:
i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.
Slaini (D1), Ace (D2), and Me (D3).notscience wrote:
Also who else was a doublevoter?
Okay.
So.
I think it's Ace/slaini
And then the last scum is in the non doublevoters.
So.
I think it's Ace/slaini
And then the last scum is in the non doublevoters.
Probably RB/Magic.
@RB: you wanna explain your sudden vote on Drezi?
Someone explain why a protective role would target slaini, please.
Or why scum would kill him.
Or why scum would kill him.
I did at d1, but not so much d2. But why would scum even make him do the kill after what happened to jess?notscience wrote:
Maybe for that explicit reasonRaging Bull wrote:
vote drezi
As for haneii bolded name, i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.
As for slaini, i dont know why scum would make slaini do the kill if jess did the same and was near ns
Anyways, I don't recall slaini being a particularly townread person, worthy of a protect or even being killed.
Do you?
I thought it wpuld be obvious when i asked you if you heard a sound. Yes.Haneii wrote:
Hey RB, can you answer this question for me, please?Haneii wrote:
why would you think that? Did you perform an action last night?
Topic Starter
Vote Count 4.04
sLaiNi (4) - notscience, Amianki, - Magic Bomb -, Ace Timing [L-1]
Drezi (2) - Setsuen, Raging Bull
Not Voting (3) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Drezi
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi (4) - notscience, Amianki, - Magic Bomb -, Ace Timing [L-1]
Drezi (2) - Setsuen, Raging Bull
Not Voting (3) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Drezi
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Lesser of two evils?
Unless we have someone explicitly claim they targetted him he should be the lynch today.
Unless we have someone explicitly claim they targetted him he should be the lynch today.
You heard a sound from slaini indicating he was targeted or he performed an action last night.notscience wrote:
Lesser of two evils?
Unless we have someone explicitly claim they targetted him he should be the lynch today.
RB performed an action last night (could be town or scum action).
Why slaini over RB? Because of the possible role fishing yesterday?
Also, I'm pretty sure slaini would leave the night actions to his scum buddy and avoid performing any actions himself last night considering the suspicions placed on him the day before.
UNVOTE: Slaini
Raging Bull wrote:
I thought it wpuld be obvious when i asked you if you heard a sound. Yes.Haneii wrote:
Hey RB, can you answer this question for me, please?
Was it an Action where you had to target someone?
Since it's obv today lynch is between two person lets take a poll.
How many of you think I am a visiting role.
How many of you think I am a visiting role.