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Sakura
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Sakura
No one died Night 3

~Day 4~
- The Landmaster -
Current Housing
[-VACANT-]
[Setsuen]
[- Magic Bomb -]
[Haneii]
[Raging Bull]
[-VACANT-]
[Amianki]
[Ace Timing]
[sLaiNi]
[notscience]
[-VACANT-]
[-VACANT-]
[Drezi]


Deadline for Hammer is 9/8 17:00 GMT-5
Vote Count 4.0

Not Voting (9) - notscience, Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull, Drezi, Amianki, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Hey drezi, whats your role.
MBomb
MBomb
@mod: is Haneii's name meant to be bolded, or is that just bolded for no reason?
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Haneii: Do you have something to tell us?
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
hey RB, why exactly would I tell you that? why would you even ask me that?
notscience
0 posts
Joined October 2014
notscience
[vote]slaini[/vote]
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
> Mafia Goon

Glad to know I am not the only person with a lousy role.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
uh right, I forgot.

Vote: sLaiNi
MBomb
MBomb

Raging Bull wrote:

Hey drezi, whats your role.
Why Drezi?

Also Vote: slaini
MBomb
MBomb
Actually, in case one of the above is a D4 doublevoter

unvote

don;t want that l-1 just yet
Setsuen
106 posts
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Setsuen
I must have missed something. Why are we voting slani after Zexion's replacement NS becomes very town due to the Jess lynch?
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
are you all voting slani to find out if she's scum double voter? IS ANYONE THERE? ANSWER PLOX
Amianki
85 posts
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Amianki
You're clearly not paying attention if you don't understand why I'm voting for sLaiNi.

FTR I'm not a doublevoter.
Sakura
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- Magic Bomb - wrote:

@mod: is Haneii's name meant to be bolded, or is that just bolded for no reason?
I can't answer this question

Vote Count 4.01

sLaiNi (2) - notscience, Amianki

Not Voting (7) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull, Drezi, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
notscience
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notscience
Also, I heard slaini tonight.

So slaini, do you have something to share with the class?
notscience
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notscience

Setsuen wrote:

I must have missed something. Why are we voting slani after Zexion's replacement NS becomes very town due to the Jess lynch?
I do not understand the question.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

You're clearly not paying attention if you don't understand why I'm voting for sLaiNi.

FTR I'm not a doublevoter.
Clearly bc I was apparently focusing slani for another reason entirely.(Which was bc he defended Zexion which made me think it was Zexion+slani scum team)
Now enlighten me. It's 6:37am here and I am trying to eat my huge breakfast.
Amianki
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Amianki
really.
Setsuen
106 posts
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Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

really.

Did you even read my ISO on D1 and 2.
Amianki
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Amianki
Yeah, because comparing the posts between me, who has been posting small posts not very often, and you, who has posted more posts and in longer chunks, is totally comparible.
Setsuen
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Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

Yeah, because comparing the posts between me, who has been posting small posts not very often, and you, who has posted more posts and in longer chunks, is totally comparible.
You're ignoring the fact that I asked whether you did read my ISO bc if you did, you would have known that I labelled Zexion and slani as a scum team.
Amianki
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Amianki
And how is that relevant to anything?
Setsuen
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Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

And how is that relevant to anything?
bc I still don't know how slani is suspicious other than the fact that she might be scum double voter.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
despite being active for the game
Amianki
85 posts
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Amianki
ok.

Back to my earlier statement. If you paid any attention to my posts at all yesterday, you'd know why I'm voting him.
Setsuen
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Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

ok.

Back to my earlier statement. If you paid any attention to my posts at all yesterday, you'd know why I'm voting him.
so we're lynching bc of rolefishing
Amianki
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Amianki
That's the simplified version, yes.
MBomb
MBomb
Ace Timing: Did you hear a sound from below you last night? (Seeing as we already know your role, this is just to confirm NS's claim).
Setsuen
106 posts
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Setsuen
that moment when you realise you didn't get a result bc somebody prob visited you
Drezi
217 posts
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Drezi
you being visited has nothing to do with what YOU hear afaik.

Sakura wrote:

anyone taking no action will be able to know if a player above or below them was targeted or targeted someone described as "hearing sounds above/below".
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
>implying that I'm actually not a JOAT with one of the abilities being double vote for one day
Yeah I heard votes, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
WELL

@Mod:I DIDN'T GET MY N3 RESULT WHY
Setsuen
106 posts
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Setsuen
@Mod:I DIDN'T GET MY N3 RESULT WHY
Sakura
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Setsuen wrote:

@Mod:I DIDN'T GET MY N3 RESULT WHY
If you didnt get a result, means you didnt hear any sound.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
I'm waiting for the next VC to reveal yet another double voter lol
MBomb
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

>implying that I'm actually not a JOAT with one of the abilities being double vote for one day
Yeah I heard votes, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
I know that, I was just checking because if you said no we'd have known one of you were lying unless scum had the ability to target someone and make them hear no sound, which I'd highly doubt but it's possible.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
I'm curious about haneii's bonded name jazz
Sakura
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Vote Count 4.02

sLaiNi (2) - notscience, Amianki

Not Voting (7) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull, Drezi, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
so MB literally did nothing then. 10/10 I wish I got a better house
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
*bolded
MBomb
MBomb
if neither of those is a doublevoter then i guess

vote: slalni
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
@RB wanna elaborate on your little outburst?
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
That's L-1 don't hammer 🔨 pls
Amianki
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Amianki
What makes you say that Ace? I've been thinking about the setup for a while now and I can't think of anything that would preclude a doctor being in the setup.
Drezi
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Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
noise from slaini -> no kill tonight -> "we prob don't have a doc, so I vote him" ??

I don't have any particular problem with a slaini wagon happening, but what exactly are you suggesting happened this night then?
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
Based on the known roles now, the only available options I see are notty you and drezi. Neither of you indicate any sings of being a doctor except for you and I haven't heard any sounds from you.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
^ aimed at amianki
Drezi
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Drezi
and you're speculating on who might be a town doc because..?
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

Drezi wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
noise from slaini -> no kill tonight -> "we prob don't have a doc, so I vote him" ??

I don't have any particular problem with a slaini wagon happening, but what exactly are you suggesting happened this night then?
He could've been roleblocked. Or, even if I don't necessarily fully agree with this despite its probable validity, he could've submitted the NK for haneii and doc protected him, which could explain his bolded name. That's one reason,however I believe there is no doc, but I can't ignore this scenario just because of a gut feeling with a tinge of logic. And therefore, I vote.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

Drezi wrote:

and you're speculating on who might be a town doc because..?
Because I mentioned it before.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
Haneii could be BP whose name gets bolded when her vest gets popped for all we know.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
That is also true.
MBomb
MBomb
Haneii was not targetted last night.
MBomb
MBomb
Nor did Haneii use any action.
Drezi
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Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

Because I mentioned it before.
I don't care, you don't do it as town...
Amianki
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Amianki
hm
Haneii
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Haneii
I don't know why my name is in bold.


Setsuen: did you hear a noise night 3?
MBomb
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

I don't know why my name is in bold.


Setsuen: did you hear a noise night 3?
This was answered earlier on, but no he didn't.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

Drezi wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

Because I mentioned it before.
I don't care, you don't do it as town...
So lemme get this straight.

If person a says person s could be town because of the existence of a doctor
and person a later says the chances of that happening is low and retracts their earlier statement.
and person c asks for the reasoning behind this
person a shouldn't answer, because the reason involves trying to prove the unlikeliness of the current doctor candidates being doctor and is therefore anti-town.
person a should leave their reasoning ambiguous and up in the air.

This is basically what you're implying.
Haneii
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Haneii
Sorry, MB. I'm trying to find where he says that but I'm struggling to find anything using my phone.

if you don't mind, can you quote it?

Can someone also check if setsuwn has ever placed a vote after day 1.

@Mod: can important events be linked in the op (day start/end), please?
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

Drezi wrote:

hey RB, why exactly would I tell you that? why would you even ask me that?
Has to be with the fact there was no kill last night.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
I stopped placing votes. Plz carry TY.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

so MB literally did nothing then. 10/10 I wish I got a better house
Here Haneii.
Drezi
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Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

person a should leave their reasoning ambiguous and up in the air.
you don't need to speculate who might be a doc to make your point.

an NK did not happen, so scum did not submit one or it had been blocked somehow (jail doc commute bp), so I don't think us having a protective is THAT unlikely. it doesn't make slaini town, he could have performed the NK with the target being protected, or him jailed etc.
MBomb
MBomb
Actually, Haneii, could I ask why you asked if Setsuen heard a sound? Surely, being below me, you should also know.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
so since Haneii doesn't know why she is bolded. I am guessing that it is a scum ability bc no one claimed to do it and I am also going to guess that it is a random ability that marks Haneii to be automatically killed by the end of D4.

If not I don't trust pie's Haneii is town statement anymore.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
my other guess would have been a scum motivator ability that allowed Haneii to double vote or something but then why would scum be dumb enough to motivate themselves for all to see amiright
MBomb
MBomb
My main concern is the fact that Haneii got bolded with:

1. Me hearing no sound.
2. Setsuen hearing no sound (In case I got targetted by some scum ability that made me unable to hear sounds).
3. Despite point 1, Haneii still asks if Setsuen heard a sound, despite the fact Haneii should know, considering I heard no sound from below me, meaning they used no action, and even if I heard sound below me, they're (As far as we know) a D3 doublevoter.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Actually yeah, i didnt hear a sound from haneii.

@haneii. Did you hear a sound?
MBomb
MBomb
My main thoughts on what could've happened are:

1. Haneii has some kind of ninja ability, where I hear no sounds at night, but instead they are bolded the following day. This would most likely lead to him being scum, as I don't see this benefitting town.

2. Haneii was targetted/used an ability, and someone used something on me that involves me being unable to hear sounds, whilst also being unheard by others (Idk kinda like a commuter that targets someone else? Idk if a role like this exists but it's possible). This would be null, it wouldn't matter what role Haneii has.

3. Haneii got targetted by some kind of ninja scum, and is a JOAT with D3 doublevote, where when a second ability is used, they are bolded. This would of course lead to Haneii being town, as scum would not target one of their own teammates.

I'm not sure which of these is most likely, but considering my townread on Haneii right now, I'd say 1 is least likely, to me, although all of these explanations seem quite unlikely to me, they're just my main thoughts.
MBomb
MBomb
Ok after RB's post, 2 is out of the question for sure.
Sakura
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Haneii wrote:

@Mod: can important events be linked in the op (day start/end), please?
I added them. Let's hope i don't forget to keep it updated this time.
MBomb
MBomb
I'm sleeping now, and then I have college tomorrow, may be on for like a few minutes before college but yeah not enough to post anything probably, so I'll post if I have any other theories before that (If nothing else gets posted about it), and of course read up, once i get back.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Ninja only modifies like tracker rigbt? As in tracker wont know who targetted someone.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
And i dont get 3. If there is joat for scum, wont tjey be more inclined to target their teammates? Like that madoka game with scum doc.

Depending on haneii answer, i think its something simple.
Haneii
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Haneii
Oh sorry, I meant N2, setsuen. Did you hear a sound the night before?
Haneii
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Haneii
Don't have time to read the last couple of pages up until this point atm. Will go through everything and respond to any questions when I get home tonight.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
I obv heard a sound N2. Hello, the person above me DIED FOR GOSH SAKE.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
@MB JOAT isn't always a scum role.
Haneii
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Haneii
So you heard a sound because you did no action that night, right?

Also, can you please vote for someone besides slaini right now and leave it until the next vote count.


Waiting out a thunderstorm before driving home >.> Reading through thread in the meantime I guess.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Oh yeah
V/LA for the whole weekend. September 4/5
Timezone difference. Should be weekend here when its septeber 4 and 5.
Sakura
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Raging Bull wrote:

Oh yeah
V/LA for the whole weekend. September 4/5
Timezone difference. Should be weekend here when its septeber 4 and 5.
Noted.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
Vote:drezi

I am going to lol if you think I am a double voter.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
Vote:drezi
Haneii
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Haneii
Just in case ^_^
Sakura
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Vote Count 4.03

sLaiNi (4) - notscience, Amianki, - Magic Bomb -, Ace Timing [L-1]
Drezi (1) - Setsuen

Not Voting (4) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
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Setsuen
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Setsuen
End of story. I am not double voter. Get rekt.
Haneii
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Haneii
@MB
On Pg 88

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Hey drezi, whats your role.
Why Drezi?

Also Vote: slaini
Why did you vote slaini here?




- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Actually, Haneii, could I ask why you asked if Setsuen heard a sound? Surely, being below me, you should also know.
Yeah, sorry about that. I derped. I meant night 2. I wanted to get more info about his role (inb4 role fishing). Just wanted to make sure about something (ie: He’s heard a sound all 3 nights which means he doesn't perform night actions - however might choose not to do them-, which made me suspicious of the fact that he doesn’t vote during the day. That’s why I asked him to vote. Not necessarily to see if he was a double voter – I don’t think he would hide it if he was one – but to see if his vote would do anything. Sorry, just a bit paranoid because I don’t believe his claim.

Tl;dr I’m curious and still suspicious of setsuen.




Raging Bull wrote:

@haneii. Did you hear a sound?
No.




Sakura wrote:

I added them. Let's hope i don't forget to keep it updated this time.
Thank you
Haneii
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Haneii
Waiting to hear from Slaini.
Haneii
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Haneii
EBWOP: I meant to write "he heard a noise both nights", not all 3 nights. And I beleive he didn't hear anything night 3 because of his initial conclusion of why he didn't hear anything last night.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi
@Sakura, that roleplay text at the end of D3 made me laugh so hard, thanks for the good start in the morning back then :D

Ace, so you heard me making sounds, too? Your actions feel like it, but just to make sure.

If that's the case, basically there are following options I guess:

1. I got targeted by scum and was saved by a doctor.
2. Noone did anything with me and instead someone else was tried to be killed, and scum used a ability to shift the sounds to me.
3. Scum did not do anything and instead just lies now about me making sounds. The chance of this is round about 0%. I just wanted to name this here.


Also, did Amianki ever reveal his/her role? I just want to know if he did, not what it is.


Don't hammer me, and if someone hammers me feel free to lynch him next day.
MBomb
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

@MB JOAT isn't always a scum role.
Erm, the situation in which I said Haneii was a JOAT, that would mean they were town.
Amianki
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Amianki
No. I have never roleclaimed and I never crumb.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

Amianki wrote:

No. I have never roleclaimed and I never crumb.
What does crumb mean? :x
Amianki
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Amianki
Hinting at your role without it being obvious.
MBomb
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

@MB
On Pg 88

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Also Vote: slaini
Why did you vote slaini here?
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).

Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi
[quote="- Magic Bomb -"][quote="Haneii"]
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).

Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).

Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?




[Repost] the other one fd the quotes up :x
MBomb
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).

Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?
Hmm, I don't understand your question here.
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