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MBomb
MBomb
My main concern is the fact that Haneii got bolded with:

1. Me hearing no sound.
2. Setsuen hearing no sound (In case I got targetted by some scum ability that made me unable to hear sounds).
3. Despite point 1, Haneii still asks if Setsuen heard a sound, despite the fact Haneii should know, considering I heard no sound from below me, meaning they used no action, and even if I heard sound below me, they're (As far as we know) a D3 doublevoter.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Actually yeah, i didnt hear a sound from haneii.

@haneii. Did you hear a sound?
MBomb
MBomb
My main thoughts on what could've happened are:

1. Haneii has some kind of ninja ability, where I hear no sounds at night, but instead they are bolded the following day. This would most likely lead to him being scum, as I don't see this benefitting town.

2. Haneii was targetted/used an ability, and someone used something on me that involves me being unable to hear sounds, whilst also being unheard by others (Idk kinda like a commuter that targets someone else? Idk if a role like this exists but it's possible). This would be null, it wouldn't matter what role Haneii has.

3. Haneii got targetted by some kind of ninja scum, and is a JOAT with D3 doublevote, where when a second ability is used, they are bolded. This would of course lead to Haneii being town, as scum would not target one of their own teammates.

I'm not sure which of these is most likely, but considering my townread on Haneii right now, I'd say 1 is least likely, to me, although all of these explanations seem quite unlikely to me, they're just my main thoughts.
MBomb
MBomb
Ok after RB's post, 2 is out of the question for sure.
Sakura
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Haneii wrote:

@Mod: can important events be linked in the op (day start/end), please?
I added them. Let's hope i don't forget to keep it updated this time.
MBomb
MBomb
I'm sleeping now, and then I have college tomorrow, may be on for like a few minutes before college but yeah not enough to post anything probably, so I'll post if I have any other theories before that (If nothing else gets posted about it), and of course read up, once i get back.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Ninja only modifies like tracker rigbt? As in tracker wont know who targetted someone.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
And i dont get 3. If there is joat for scum, wont tjey be more inclined to target their teammates? Like that madoka game with scum doc.

Depending on haneii answer, i think its something simple.
Haneii
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Haneii
Oh sorry, I meant N2, setsuen. Did you hear a sound the night before?
Haneii
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Haneii
Don't have time to read the last couple of pages up until this point atm. Will go through everything and respond to any questions when I get home tonight.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
I obv heard a sound N2. Hello, the person above me DIED FOR GOSH SAKE.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
@MB JOAT isn't always a scum role.
Haneii
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Haneii
So you heard a sound because you did no action that night, right?

Also, can you please vote for someone besides slaini right now and leave it until the next vote count.


Waiting out a thunderstorm before driving home >.> Reading through thread in the meantime I guess.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Oh yeah
V/LA for the whole weekend. September 4/5
Timezone difference. Should be weekend here when its septeber 4 and 5.
Sakura
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Raging Bull wrote:

Oh yeah
V/LA for the whole weekend. September 4/5
Timezone difference. Should be weekend here when its septeber 4 and 5.
Noted.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
Vote:drezi

I am going to lol if you think I am a double voter.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
Vote:drezi
Haneii
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Haneii
Just in case ^_^
Sakura
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Vote Count 4.03

sLaiNi (4) - notscience, Amianki, - Magic Bomb -, Ace Timing [L-1]
Drezi (1) - Setsuen

Not Voting (4) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
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Setsuen
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Setsuen
End of story. I am not double voter. Get rekt.
Haneii
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Haneii
@MB
On Pg 88

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Hey drezi, whats your role.
Why Drezi?

Also Vote: slaini
Why did you vote slaini here?




- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Actually, Haneii, could I ask why you asked if Setsuen heard a sound? Surely, being below me, you should also know.
Yeah, sorry about that. I derped. I meant night 2. I wanted to get more info about his role (inb4 role fishing). Just wanted to make sure about something (ie: He’s heard a sound all 3 nights which means he doesn't perform night actions - however might choose not to do them-, which made me suspicious of the fact that he doesn’t vote during the day. That’s why I asked him to vote. Not necessarily to see if he was a double voter – I don’t think he would hide it if he was one – but to see if his vote would do anything. Sorry, just a bit paranoid because I don’t believe his claim.

Tl;dr I’m curious and still suspicious of setsuen.




Raging Bull wrote:

@haneii. Did you hear a sound?
No.




Sakura wrote:

I added them. Let's hope i don't forget to keep it updated this time.
Thank you
Haneii
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Haneii
Waiting to hear from Slaini.
Haneii
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Haneii
EBWOP: I meant to write "he heard a noise both nights", not all 3 nights. And I beleive he didn't hear anything night 3 because of his initial conclusion of why he didn't hear anything last night.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi
@Sakura, that roleplay text at the end of D3 made me laugh so hard, thanks for the good start in the morning back then :D

Ace, so you heard me making sounds, too? Your actions feel like it, but just to make sure.

If that's the case, basically there are following options I guess:

1. I got targeted by scum and was saved by a doctor.
2. Noone did anything with me and instead someone else was tried to be killed, and scum used a ability to shift the sounds to me.
3. Scum did not do anything and instead just lies now about me making sounds. The chance of this is round about 0%. I just wanted to name this here.


Also, did Amianki ever reveal his/her role? I just want to know if he did, not what it is.


Don't hammer me, and if someone hammers me feel free to lynch him next day.
MBomb
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

@MB JOAT isn't always a scum role.
Erm, the situation in which I said Haneii was a JOAT, that would mean they were town.
Amianki
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Amianki
No. I have never roleclaimed and I never crumb.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

Amianki wrote:

No. I have never roleclaimed and I never crumb.
What does crumb mean? :x
Amianki
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Amianki
Hinting at your role without it being obvious.
MBomb
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

@MB
On Pg 88

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Also Vote: slaini
Why did you vote slaini here?
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).

Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi
[quote="- Magic Bomb -"][quote="Haneii"]
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).

Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).

Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?




[Repost] the other one fd the quotes up :x
MBomb
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum. As for why I voted slaini instead, there was one vote at the time I started my post, so I wanted to add pressure onto him, seeing as it's easier to add pressure onto someone who's already got votes. I only took my vote off after amianki put his on because, as I stated, I wanted to check for a doublevoter first (Just in case someone tried to put him on L-1 and accidentally hammered).

Also, yes, if someone hammers slaini now, lynch them, seeing as we ofc know he's on L-1.
So why do you feel scummy over Amianki, could you explain this in detail please?
Hmm, I don't understand your question here.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
I think Haneii is the only person left here who still don't know why I claimed Miller D1 while KNOWING that I don't visit
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

-Magic Bomb- wrote:

Hmm, I don't understand your question here.
Why do you think Amianki is scum.
MBomb
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

-Magic Bomb- wrote:

Hmm, I don't understand your question here.
Why do you think Amianki is scum.
I said I think one of you is scum, I'm not sure which though. That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.
Haneii
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Haneii

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.
How?
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
vote drezi

As for haneii bolded name, i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.

As for slaini, i dont know why scum would make slaini do the kill if jess did the same and was near ns
Drezi
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Drezi
care to explain why you're voting me?
Haneii
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Haneii

Raging Bull wrote:

i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.
why would you think that? Did you perform an action last night?

Also, if Drezi was scum, why have Jess perform the kill?

I was wondering if someone tried to perform an action on me (I'm thinking trying to switch me with another house), and it didn't go through/work because I've already moved once. I find it odd that this game has a treehouse setup/flavour, but the busdriver is one shot.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

Drezi wrote:

hey RB, why exactly would I tell you that? why would you even ask me that?
Has to be with the fact there was no kill last night.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

Haneii wrote:

Also, if Drezi was scum, why have Jess perform the kill?
Ughhhh that is also true. It would have made more sense to always send drezi for a kill. The only thing i can think of that would make sense would be ns drezi jess team which ns pushes for jess lynch to look more town and distance drezi more
notscience
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notscience

Raging Bull wrote:

vote drezi

As for haneii bolded name, i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.

As for slaini, i dont know why scum would make slaini do the kill if jess did the same and was near ns
Maybe for that explicit reason

Anyways, I don't recall slaini being a particularly townread person, worthy of a protect or even being killed.

Do you?
notscience
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notscience

sLaiNi wrote:

1. I got targeted by scum and was saved by a doctor.
2. Noone did anything with me and instead someone else was tried to be killed, and scum used a ability to shift the sounds to me.
3. Scum did not do anything and instead just lies now about me making sounds. The chance of this is round about 0%. I just wanted to name this here.
1) You aren't a widely townread player, this is hard to believe.
2) If they had this ability wouldn't they have used this before?
3) lol.
notscience
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notscience
Also who else was a doublevoter?

I know Slaini was but I forget who the others are. I think the best course of action is to purge the scum in that set and then figure out whoever's left.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
Look at VC. I am obv double voter instead of miller.
Pretty sure Ace claimed Double Voter on like D2.
Haneii
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Haneii

Haneii wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.
why would you think that? Did you perform an action last night?
Hey RB, can you answer this question for me, please?

notscience wrote:

Also who else was a doublevoter?
Slaini (D1), Ace (D2), and Me (D3).
notscience
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notscience
Okay.

So.

I think it's Ace/slaini

And then the last scum is in the non doublevoters.
notscience
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notscience
Probably RB/Magic.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
@RB: you wanna explain your sudden vote on Drezi?
notscience
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notscience
Someone explain why a protective role would target slaini, please.

Or why scum would kill him.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

notscience wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

vote drezi

As for haneii bolded name, i think haneii just cant hear mb or me. I dont understand why haneii.

As for slaini, i dont know why scum would make slaini do the kill if jess did the same and was near ns
Maybe for that explicit reason

Anyways, I don't recall slaini being a particularly townread person, worthy of a protect or even being killed.

Do you?
I did at d1, but not so much d2. But why would scum even make him do the kill after what happened to jess?
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

Haneii wrote:

Haneii wrote:

why would you think that? Did you perform an action last night?
Hey RB, can you answer this question for me, please?
I thought it wpuld be obvious when i asked you if you heard a sound. Yes.
Sakura
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Vote Count 4.04

sLaiNi (4) - notscience, Amianki, - Magic Bomb -, Ace Timing [L-1]
Drezi (2) - Setsuen, Raging Bull

Not Voting (3) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Drezi

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
notscience
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notscience
Lesser of two evils?

Unless we have someone explicitly claim they targetted him he should be the lynch today.
Haneii
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Haneii

notscience wrote:

Lesser of two evils?

Unless we have someone explicitly claim they targetted him he should be the lynch today.
You heard a sound from slaini indicating he was targeted or he performed an action last night.

RB performed an action last night (could be town or scum action).

Why slaini over RB? Because of the possible role fishing yesterday?

Also, I'm pretty sure slaini would leave the night actions to his scum buddy and avoid performing any actions himself last night considering the suspicions placed on him the day before.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
UNVOTE: Slaini
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

Raging Bull wrote:

Haneii wrote:

Hey RB, can you answer this question for me, please?
I thought it wpuld be obvious when i asked you if you heard a sound. Yes.

Was it an Action where you had to target someone?
Setsuen
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Setsuen
Since it's obv today lynch is between two person lets take a poll.

How many of you think I am a visiting role.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

Since it's obv today lynch is between two person lets take a poll.

How many of you think I am a visiting role.
I don't think this, because the miller seems like a very strange falseclaim to make for no reason.
MBomb
MBomb
Most people would just pretend to be VT.
MBomb
MBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Most people would just pretend to be VT.
Actually, I meant most people wouldn't even roleclaim.
notscience
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notscience
He very clearly just wants attention...
Setsuen
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Setsuen

notscience wrote:

He very clearly just wants attention...
You clearly don't even know my role.
notscience
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notscience
If you're not claiming to have targetted Slaini I don't care.

If you are going to avoid answering that I'm just going to lynch him anyways.
Setsuen
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Setsuen

notscience wrote:

If you're not claiming to have targetted Slaini I don't care.

If you are going to avoid answering that I'm just going to lynch him anyways.
>Implying I even care about who you try to lynch off.
Sakura
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Sakura
Vote Count 4.05

sLaiNi (3) - notscience, Amianki, - Magic Bomb - [L-2]
Drezi (2) - Setsuen, Raging Bull

Not Voting (4) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Drezi, Ace Timing

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Setsuen
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Setsuen
Feel free to tell me when to hammer everyone. I expect to be carried if slani is scum bc I told you so on like D1.
Haneii
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Haneii
Hey, MB?
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi
Ace and Haneii, would you be so nice and answer my questions?
Setsuen
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Setsuen
so we have four choice

1.Assume slani is scum and hunt for the 3rd scum bc this is 13P
2.Assume slani is scum, lynch and then do nothing until scum win
3.Assume slani might not be scum and counterwagon someone else.
4.I check people ISO to see when they last posted so that I can spam tell Sakura to prod lurkers right when it has been 24hours since they last posted.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

Ace and Haneii, would you be so nice and answer my questions?
What questions?
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

Ace Timing wrote:

>implying that I'm actually not a JOAT with one of the abilities being double vote for one day
Yeah I heard sounds, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
I just now realized I put votes instead of sounds.
Haneii
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Haneii
Which questions, slaini?
MBomb
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

Hey, MB?
Yeah?
Haneii
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Haneii

Haneii wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.
How?
Setsuen
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Setsuen
@Mod:Prod Amianki and drezi
Sakura
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Sakura

Setsuen wrote:

@Mod:Prod Amianki and drezi
Amianki and Drezi have been prodded!
MBomb
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.
How?
I'm not sure, it's just my gut feeling.
Drezi
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Drezi
yeah im here, tbh I got quite pissed off at Jess flipping scum yet again, i'm so sick of having to deal with her shit every single game, and she won't stop joining games...

I don't think it's unfeasible that notsci had been bussing bussing Jess after both of them got close to a lynch last day, it'd make sense so that one of them gains a lot better position next day, but well it's not a scenario I'd be pushing unless the game doesn't seem to make sense otherwise later on.

I'd probably need to reread stuff but I don't really have a town feeling of sLaiNi's doing this game overall. It'd be nice to get more out of the day instead of a single wagon, but in this game it's already an accomplishment when we can actually agree to wagon and possibly lynch a single person, and I'm fine with a sLaiNi lynch..

Also note that sLaiNi had not claimed sounds at all afaik, while he should have confirmed that notsci/Ace had been silent simply to give us more info and confirm they aren't lying about hearing stuff etc.
Haneii
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Haneii

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Haneii wrote:

How?
I'm not sure, it's just my gut feeling.
Not sure?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum.
Please give a reason.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

Drezi wrote:

yeah im here, tbh I got quite pissed off at Jess flipping scum yet again, i'm so sick of having to deal with her shit every single game, and she won't stop joining games...

I don't think it's unfeasible that notsci had been bussing bussing Jess after both of them got close to a lynch last day, it'd make sense so that one of them gains a lot better position next day, but well it's not a scenario I'd be pushing unless the game doesn't seem to make sense otherwise later on.

I'd probably need to reread stuff but I don't really have a town feeling of sLaiNi's doing this game overall. It'd be nice to get more out of the day instead of a single wagon, but in this game it's already an accomplishment when we can actually agree to wagon and possibly lynch a single person, and I'm fine with a sLaiNi lynch..

Also note that sLaiNi had not claimed sounds at all afaik, while he should have confirmed that notsci/Ace had been silent simply to give us more info and confirm they aren't lying about hearing stuff etc.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

Drezi wrote:

yeah im here, tbh I got quite pissed off at Jess flipping scum yet again, i'm so sick of having to deal with her shit every single game, and she won't stop joining games...

I don't think it's unfeasible that notsci had been bussing bussing Jess after both of them got close to a lynch last day, it'd make sense so that one of them gains a lot better position next day, but well it's not a scenario I'd be pushing unless the game doesn't seem to make sense otherwise later on.

I'd probably need to reread stuff but I don't really have a town feeling of sLaiNi's doing this game overall. It'd be nice to get more out of the day instead of a single wagon, but in this game it's already an accomplishment when we can actually agree to wagon and possibly lynch a single person, and I'm fine with a sLaiNi lynch..

Also note that sLaiNi had not claimed sounds at all afaik, while he should have confirmed that notsci/Ace had been silent simply to give us more info and confirm they aren't lying about hearing stuff etc.
You're getting unlogical there.

First you say its likely that I am scum, and then you say I should've confirmed their claims on me being true. Which fricking scum would say " Yes, they are totally right and did not make sounds, so I did indeed take actions."

Haneiii I wanted to know if you had to target someone or if your action did only affect yourself

And Amianki, did you hear anything? No sounds were found instead of mine. So where is the victim I should've targeted.
Drezi
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Drezi
lol slaini.

if you're innocent and took no action, you could tell us about noises/the lack of noises from notscience and Ace. I don't really see the problem here?
Haneii
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Haneii
@slaini: I didn't perform any actions last night.
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi
Amianki, did you hear anything?

I am just curious in case someone made me stop hearing things or anything like this, as it's just strange how noone heard sounds of the one that I supposedly targeted in case I was the killer. So I want to make sure that I got the same result as you.
Drezi
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Drezi
and while we're at that can YOU tell us about your noises?
MBomb
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

How?

I'm not sure, it's just my gut feeling.
Not sure?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum.
Please give a reason.
I'm not sure of why I feel like it's scum and town arguing, it's just my gut feeling, however I am sure that my gut is right here (though tbh I was also sure my gut was right with Frostings, so that might not be the best judge, and my reads aren't exactly known for being the best).
Amianki
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Amianki
I'm not claiming sounds.
Setsuen
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Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

I'm not claiming sounds.
You came back from your prodding just to respond with a one sentence answer and then go back to lurking?

slani refusing to tell us about possible sound she heard is like jess refusing to speak much.
Amianki
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Amianki

Setsuen wrote:

Amianki wrote:

I'm not claiming sounds.
You came back from your prodding just to respond with a one sentence answer and then go back to lurking?
Yes, I checked in at work and posted an answer to an immediate issue that was unresolved in the thread, then spent the next hour working/walking home.

Oh wait, I mean stopped my lurking to post a one liner then go back to lurking. Yeah, that's it.

Setsuen wrote:

slani refusing to tell us about possible sound she heard is like jess refusing to speak much.
I don't think you could have phrased this in a way that makes any less sense. That takes talent.
Setsuen
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Setsuen
How about this. slani refusing to talk about sounds when they're about to be lynched is as bad as Frosting not roleclaiming when they're about to be lynched.
sLaiNi
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Joined May 2013
sLaiNi

Amianki wrote:

I'm not claiming sounds.
Why exactly? When this could help for myself to know if I was targeted by a distrating role?
Amianki
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Joined January 2011
Amianki
I don't feel like revealing whether I heard any or not. Feel free to speculate if you care enough.
sLaiNi
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Joined May 2013
sLaiNi

Amianki wrote:

I don't feel like revealing whether I heard any or not. Feel free to speculate if you care enough.
You don't want or you can't? ^^
Drezi
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Joined January 2014
Drezi
Why don't you claim your sounds slaiini??
sLaiNi
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sLaiNi

Drezi wrote:

Why don't you claim your sounds slaiini??
You know pretty well why.
Ace Timing
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Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
No one here is psychic, cut the mind games and tell us why or why not you won't claim.
Ace Timing
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Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
That might've been rude of me.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

Ace Timing wrote:

No one here is psychic, be clear and please answer the question
Edited for politeness.
sLaiNi
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Joined May 2013
sLaiNi
As it seems that there's no better way then that I'll explain everything.

For the understanding, here the current housing situation:

Sakura wrote:

[-VACANT-]
[Amianki]
[Ace Timing]
[sLaiNi]
[notscience]
[-VACANT-]
So I heard sounds from above AND below, and for myself I did not take any actions.

notscience heard sounds from me, which suggests that he did not take any actions as well.

So there were sounds comming from Ace and Amianki NEVER stated that or mentioned it, while still pushing my lynch because I made sounds. If he heard Ace_Timing's sounds, he would've stated it. (It would be paradox to push me for making sounds and then protect another one that made sounds). When I asked him he just tried to distract and denied an answer. This was to not make a false answer, as he can't know if there were sounds, as he made a night action.

So Amianki made a night action.

Ace is supposed to have heard this night action, as he is VT and can't take actions himself. Also Ace stated that he heard sounds from me (after notscience claimed this). That means Ace actually just sheeped notscience, as Ace has no clue about what sounds where made around him. As he is VT now, he is not supposed to be able to take night actions.

This means he is scum and he made the night submission.

The only thing I don't know is, who his partner. Important to notice it, that someone was protected. So scum is now searching for the doctor.

Drezi is so on for me to claim my sounds. My assumption is following:

Drezi is scum, too and he knows that I heard sounds (the ones of Ace), he wants to know if I heard any of notscience, to find out if he is the doctor. (if he actually is, he will know by now that this is the actual case and we got our scumteam)

There are some other options, including some variations of the town that was involved and that blocked the nightkill (for example the town wasnt doc and instead some kind of jailor etc.)

So I'll go with this of course:

Vote: Ace_Timing
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