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Haneii

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

@everyone: what's with suddenly taking almost all pressure off Zexion/ns? Unless literally the only reason you were voting them was because they were getting a replacement and you didn't know if they'd find one, but that seems ridiculous.
Pretty much. I don't think it's ridiculous, but okay.

Who would you like to vote for today?
notscience
I'm not reading his posts because I don't particularly care for the opinions of someone who thinks they're better than everyone else.

That being said, you saying "why are we all ignoring this person" without putting pressure on me yourself is scummy.
-[Jess]-
Post after school
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.07

-[Jess]- (4) - notscience, Haneii, sLaiNi [L-2]
notscience (1) - Drezi
sLaiNi (1) - Amianki

Not Voting (5) - Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -, Raging Bull, Ace Timing, -[Jess]-

With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch
Raging Bull
@NS do you think its more likely jess did an action vs someone targetted her? And why
Raging Bull

Haneii wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

@everyone: what's with suddenly taking almost all pressure off Zexion/ns? Unless literally the only reason you were voting them was because they were getting a replacement and you didn't know if they'd find one, but that seems ridiculous.
Pretty much. I don't think it's ridiculous, but okay.

Who would you like to vote for today?

It seems thats how the zexion wagon was. Only drezi provided a reason to vote.
Ace Timing
Pretty sure the zex wagon was just an info lynch as opposed to the alternative policy lynch on Jess.
notscience
I doubt that any protective targetted her.

We know it wasnt a killing action or she'd be dead.

We already had an investigative flip, I highly doubt there are more than one.

So.
Ace Timing
Based on the evidence given there are several possible scenarios.

1. Jess is scum that killed pieguy and that was the sound.
2. Jess is town and notty is lying about the sound.
3. Jess is town and was protected by a doctor or other similar role.
4. Jess is town doctor and fake claimed.
5. Jess is scum and notty is bussing.
Right now, 1, 3, and 5 are the most likely
I'll be sticking with 1 until there's anything that convinces me otherwise.
VOTE: Jess
-[Jess]-
L-1 than orz
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

Post after school
Next

-[Jess]- wrote:

L-1 than orz
Not like it is not how Jess usually acts but ok.


@Ace I got to the most obvious conclusion and that's exactly what you posted. Either way someone wouldve started the massclaim and tbh I didn't get as much as I hoped from it.

You couldn't have created your conclusion list above without the knowledge of all sounds that happened.
Ace Timing
But I just did.
Raging Bull

notscience wrote:

I doubt that any protective targetted her.

We know it wasnt a killing action or she'd be dead.

We already had an investigative flip, I highly doubt there are more than one.

So.
Wow. Teach me how to better myself at mafia.

Im convinced. Will hammer before I sleep in like 6 hourish unless someone has anything else.
Raging Bull

sLaiNi wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.
I already stated that I was searching for counterclaims on sounds, after sounds were heard on Jess.

I didnt really care you were asking for sounds but CB did bring a good point. I honestly just dont believe your excuse. But then thats apparently not scummy for everyone else
Raging Bull

sLaiNi wrote:

@Ace I got to the most obvious conclusion and that's exactly what you posted. Either way someone wouldve started the massclaim and tbh I didn't get as much as I hoped from it.

You got like more than half afaik. I dont understand why you dont think scum wont lie.
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

You couldn't have created your conclusion list above without the knowledge of all sounds that happened.
I only needed one. And one if the conclusions acknowledges the case of that sound being false.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

You couldn't have created your conclusion list above without the knowledge of all sounds that happened.
I only needed one. And one if the conclusions acknowledges the case of that sound being false.
So please tell me how a single other soundclaim could confirm the sounds being real, if the other person next to Jess is dead?
Ace Timing
In this scenario I only needed one sound. Presenting another scenario will prove nothing.
sLaiNi

sLaiNi wrote:

So please tell me how a single other soundclaim could confirm the sounds being real, if the other person next to Jess is dead?

Ace Timing wrote:

In this scenario I only needed one sound. Presenting another scenario will prove nothing.
Presenting another scenario? Are you kidding me?

Sakura wrote:

~Night 2~
- The Register -

Current Housing
[Zexion]
[-[Jess]-]
[-VACANT-]


All Night actions are due within 24 hours of this post
So you basically accuse me of thing and negating my explanation for it, because you would only need one vote to counterclaim the soundclaim of NS and when I tell you it is not possible in case that the other person next to Jess is dead (which is actually the case now) and then you basically slip that you don't even know that.

You're close to getting the finger
Setsuen

Raging Bull wrote:

@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.
slani defended Zexion who was replaced by NS. How come you're not that suspicious of NS as compared to slani?

Ace Timing wrote:

Pretty sure the zex wagon was just an info lynch as opposed to the alternative policy lynch on Jess.
I already stated that he was lurking hard. That is reason enough to policy him for both info and the fact that he has a high chance of flipping scum.


Also you're dreaming if you think any possible doc would be on Jess. They WOULD HAVE BEEN ON PIEGUY.
NS+Slani
or Jess+RB+Drezi
Right now I am leaning towards NS+Slani scumteam POSSIBLY with Amianki FOR VERY OBV REASON CALLED LURKING.
sLaiNi

Setsuen wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.
slani defended Zexion who was replaced by NS. How come you're not that suspicious of NS as compared to slani?

Ace Timing wrote:

Pretty sure the zex wagon was just an info lynch as opposed to the alternative policy lynch on Jess.
I already stated that he was lurking hard. That is reason enough to policy him for both info and the fact that he has a high chance of flipping scum.


Also you're dreaming if you think any possible doc would be on Jess. They WOULD HAVE BEEN ON PIEGUY.
NS+Slani
or Jess+RB+Drezi
Right now I am leaning towards NS+Slani scumteam POSSIBLY with Amianki FOR VERY OBV REASON CALLED LURKING.
Would you say there are abilities that change, where sounds are coming from`?
Amianki
lol
sLaiNi
Also Jess, could you please make any content on what you think, because RB literally said he is ready to hammer you. So do me a favor and

1. Try to defend yourself
2. Post what you think on anybody
Ace Timing
Topkek literally made that list with one sound I don't see why your massclaim plays a part in it at all.
Ace Timing
And how does the slot below jess being dead relate in any way to your massclaim attempt? Your massclaim won't make up for the lack of sound info from that slot at all.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

And how does the slot below jess being dead relate in any way to your massclaim attempt? Your massclaim won't make up for the lack of sound info from that slot at all.
You literally just twist my words in my mouth. It was you who said, that you would only need two claims to have a proven sound (the one above and the one below the person who gets accused of making sounds). Then, afterwards, you make it sound like I said that lawl.

Ace Timing wrote:

In this scenario I only needed one sound [to have a proven soundclaim]. Presenting another scenario will prove nothing.
the [i] Text was added by me.

So if you think closely it is important that Jess' neighbour is dead, because you can't prove the soundclaim of NS with the two people around her, so the only way is to seek for other sounds, in which case the murdering might have happenend only through her.

It's so obvious that you are trying to scumpaint. Inb4 Amianki/Ace Timing scumteam (even though this would mess up my whole way of thoughts)
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.08

-[Jess]- (5) - notscience, Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing [L-1]
notscience (1) - Drezi
sLaiNi (1) - Amianki

Not Voting (4) - Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -, Raging Bull, -[Jess]-

With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch
Ace Timing
I still don't see your point. That scenario list is completely valid with just one sound, and massclaiming won't help because there's still only one slot that can hear jess.
sLaiNi
I already stated that it might not have been the best or most successful idea.

I just tried to not let you get away with turning around my words
Raging Bull
Fuck i fell asleep. I dont see final thoughts helpful from jess. She will probably say post later or some shit.

vote jess
sLaiNi
Actually RB is right about the post later stuff

It's 22:12 here, ill sleep now.


I FoS Drezi, Amianki and a bit of Ace.
MBomb
oh i was gonna pdodge because college stuff but there was a hammer
Ace Timing
How did I twist your words if I don't quote you or mention any specific point at all? .-.
Ace Timing
How did I twist your words if I don't quote you or mention any specific points you make at all? .-.
Ace Timing
Rip I thought that didn't send like half an hour ago
Setsuen
so RB hammered with like 2days before deadline. 10/10
Setsuen
and if there are abilities that changes where sound comes from, it will probably be a scum ability since any sane town other than me would have outed that ability just to decrease WIFOM.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Final Vote Count Day 3

-[Jess]- (6) - notscience, Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull [LYNCH!]
notscience (1) - Drezi
sLaiNi (1) - Amianki

Not Voting (3) - Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -, Raging Bull, -[Jess]-

With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch
Raging Bull
I stated i will hammer like yesterday. I also like what NS said and saw no reason why any other role would target jess. Our investigation role also flipped so let me know what role would like to target her with her playstyle.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Jess: Hmm ask me in a few hours
notscience: I heard sounds coming from your house, it can't be anyone else.
Jess: Brb, Gotta eat.
Haneii: Yeah i don't believe her either.
sLaiNi: No other sounds contradict
Amianki: Why are you even asking about Sounds? FFS!
Jess: I sleep i just vt.
Ace Timing: It has to be you!
Raging Bull: Yeah everything makes sense, there's no one else.
Jess: orz

As Jess is lynched, you find she falsified some papers to be able to live in the treehouse... what a scum!


-[Jess]- Outsider in the Tree (Mafia Goon) was lynched Day 3
Jess

Sakura wrote:

Hi, you are an Outsider in the Tree (Mafia Goon)
You and your partners have invaded the treehouse to take it for your own and establish a new base of operations.
During the day you may vote and talk.
During the Night, you may do your mafia deeds.
-REDACTED-

You win when your faction controls half the votes or nothing can prevent this from happening
Topic Starter
Sakura
~Night 3~
- The Caretaker -

Current Housing
[-VACANT-]
[Setsuen]
[- Magic Bomb -]
[Haneii]
[Raging Bull]
[-VACANT-]
[Amianki]
[Ace Timing]
[sLaiNi]
[notscience]
[-VACANT-]
[-VACANT-]
[Drezi]


Deadline for Night actions is 24 hours as of this post.
Topic Starter
Sakura
No one died Night 3

~Day 4~
- The Landmaster -

Current Housing
[-VACANT-]
[Setsuen]
[- Magic Bomb -]
[Haneii]
[Raging Bull]
[-VACANT-]
[Amianki]
[Ace Timing]
[sLaiNi]
[notscience]
[-VACANT-]
[-VACANT-]
[Drezi]


Deadline for Hammer is 9/8 17:00 GMT-5
Vote Count 4.0

Not Voting (9) - notscience, Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull, Drezi, Amianki, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Raging Bull
Hey drezi, whats your role.
MBomb
@mod: is Haneii's name meant to be bolded, or is that just bolded for no reason?
Amianki
Haneii: Do you have something to tell us?
Drezi
hey RB, why exactly would I tell you that? why would you even ask me that?
notscience
[vote]slaini[/vote]
Setsuen
> Mafia Goon

Glad to know I am not the only person with a lousy role.
Amianki
uh right, I forgot.

Vote: sLaiNi
MBomb

Raging Bull wrote:

Hey drezi, whats your role.
Why Drezi?

Also Vote: slaini
MBomb
Actually, in case one of the above is a D4 doublevoter

unvote

don;t want that l-1 just yet
Setsuen
I must have missed something. Why are we voting slani after Zexion's replacement NS becomes very town due to the Jess lynch?
Setsuen
are you all voting slani to find out if she's scum double voter? IS ANYONE THERE? ANSWER PLOX
Amianki
You're clearly not paying attention if you don't understand why I'm voting for sLaiNi.

FTR I'm not a doublevoter.
Topic Starter
Sakura

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

@mod: is Haneii's name meant to be bolded, or is that just bolded for no reason?
I can't answer this question

Vote Count 4.01

sLaiNi (2) - notscience, Amianki

Not Voting (7) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull, Drezi, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
notscience
Also, I heard slaini tonight.

So slaini, do you have something to share with the class?
notscience

Setsuen wrote:

I must have missed something. Why are we voting slani after Zexion's replacement NS becomes very town due to the Jess lynch?
I do not understand the question.
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

You're clearly not paying attention if you don't understand why I'm voting for sLaiNi.

FTR I'm not a doublevoter.
Clearly bc I was apparently focusing slani for another reason entirely.(Which was bc he defended Zexion which made me think it was Zexion+slani scum team)
Now enlighten me. It's 6:37am here and I am trying to eat my huge breakfast.
Amianki
really.
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

really.

Did you even read my ISO on D1 and 2.
Amianki
Yeah, because comparing the posts between me, who has been posting small posts not very often, and you, who has posted more posts and in longer chunks, is totally comparible.
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

Yeah, because comparing the posts between me, who has been posting small posts not very often, and you, who has posted more posts and in longer chunks, is totally comparible.
You're ignoring the fact that I asked whether you did read my ISO bc if you did, you would have known that I labelled Zexion and slani as a scum team.
Amianki
And how is that relevant to anything?
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

And how is that relevant to anything?
bc I still don't know how slani is suspicious other than the fact that she might be scum double voter.
Setsuen
despite being active for the game
Amianki
ok.

Back to my earlier statement. If you paid any attention to my posts at all yesterday, you'd know why I'm voting him.
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

ok.

Back to my earlier statement. If you paid any attention to my posts at all yesterday, you'd know why I'm voting him.
so we're lynching bc of rolefishing
Amianki
That's the simplified version, yes.
MBomb
Ace Timing: Did you hear a sound from below you last night? (Seeing as we already know your role, this is just to confirm NS's claim).
Setsuen
that moment when you realise you didn't get a result bc somebody prob visited you
Drezi
you being visited has nothing to do with what YOU hear afaik.

Sakura wrote:

anyone taking no action will be able to know if a player above or below them was targeted or targeted someone described as "hearing sounds above/below".
Ace Timing
>implying that I'm actually not a JOAT with one of the abilities being double vote for one day
Yeah I heard votes, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
Setsuen
WELL

@Mod:I DIDN'T GET MY N3 RESULT WHY
Setsuen
@Mod:I DIDN'T GET MY N3 RESULT WHY
Topic Starter
Sakura

Setsuen wrote:

@Mod:I DIDN'T GET MY N3 RESULT WHY
If you didnt get a result, means you didnt hear any sound.
Ace Timing
I'm waiting for the next VC to reveal yet another double voter lol
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

>implying that I'm actually not a JOAT with one of the abilities being double vote for one day
Yeah I heard votes, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
I know that, I was just checking because if you said no we'd have known one of you were lying unless scum had the ability to target someone and make them hear no sound, which I'd highly doubt but it's possible.
Ace Timing
I'm curious about haneii's bonded name jazz
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 4.02

sLaiNi (2) - notscience, Amianki

Not Voting (7) - Haneii, sLaiNi, Ace Timing, Raging Bull, Drezi, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Setsuen
so MB literally did nothing then. 10/10 I wish I got a better house
Ace Timing
*bolded
MBomb
if neither of those is a doublevoter then i guess

vote: slalni
Ace Timing
@RB wanna elaborate on your little outburst?
Ace Timing
Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
Ace Timing
That's L-1 don't hammer 🔨 pls
Amianki
What makes you say that Ace? I've been thinking about the setup for a while now and I can't think of anything that would preclude a doctor being in the setup.
Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
noise from slaini -> no kill tonight -> "we prob don't have a doc, so I vote him" ??

I don't have any particular problem with a slaini wagon happening, but what exactly are you suggesting happened this night then?
Ace Timing
Based on the known roles now, the only available options I see are notty you and drezi. Neither of you indicate any sings of being a doctor except for you and I haven't heard any sounds from you.
Ace Timing
^ aimed at amianki
Drezi
and you're speculating on who might be a town doc because..?
Ace Timing

Drezi wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

Actually the chance of doc being in this game actually doesn't seem too high as of the evidence available so
VOTE: Slaini
noise from slaini -> no kill tonight -> "we prob don't have a doc, so I vote him" ??

I don't have any particular problem with a slaini wagon happening, but what exactly are you suggesting happened this night then?
He could've been roleblocked. Or, even if I don't necessarily fully agree with this despite its probable validity, he could've submitted the NK for haneii and doc protected him, which could explain his bolded name. That's one reason,however I believe there is no doc, but I can't ignore this scenario just because of a gut feeling with a tinge of logic. And therefore, I vote.
Ace Timing

Drezi wrote:

and you're speculating on who might be a town doc because..?
Because I mentioned it before.
Setsuen
Haneii could be BP whose name gets bolded when her vest gets popped for all we know.
Ace Timing
That is also true.
MBomb
Haneii was not targetted last night.
MBomb
Nor did Haneii use any action.
Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

Because I mentioned it before.
I don't care, you don't do it as town...
Amianki
hm
Haneii
I don't know why my name is in bold.


Setsuen: did you hear a noise night 3?
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

I don't know why my name is in bold.


Setsuen: did you hear a noise night 3?
This was answered earlier on, but no he didn't.
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