Amianki literally said nothing to counter my comment down there.Amianki wrote:
2. sLaiNi literally said nothing to counter my assertions and the push onto Drezi is a sidestep to deflect pressure.
Amianki literally said nothing to counter my comment down there.Amianki wrote:
2. sLaiNi literally said nothing to counter my assertions and the push onto Drezi is a sidestep to deflect pressure.
Also how can you know that scum would "sort them out". Actually that would only work if someone knows 100% that Jess is town, and the only ones that can know that are scum.Amianki wrote:
Yeah, because it's perfectly valid to go for a lynch on someone and see if it's worthwhile to make scum sort them or not.
It's a completely different situation when the sound info is completely unexpected from what we were told about the setup. Zexion hinting that he got a similar result to mine made me suspicious that there was foul play involved somewhere and it's important to know whether it was town doing the horribly anti-town thing or not.sLaiNi wrote:
Also you state that getting soundclaims out of people is PRfishing and that it wouldn't help town as much as it would help scum?sLaiNi wrote:
I'm like 90% sure he's fishing for PRs with this massclaim sounds BS, since there's very close to no way this will be better info for town than scum.
Let's make a short time travel there to start of Day2:Zexion wrote:
Also should we claim what we heard on night? Honest question here e_e, I'm kinda confused about what I heard.Right before claiming what she heard.Amianki wrote:
PEdit: yeah
If she claims a PR and lives, then she's either scum who lied (which has a high chance of a counter claim) or scum think her PR isn't good enough to warrant a kill. If she dies, then scum just got rid of a player that would have gotten lynched instead, which gains town a tempo.sLaiNi wrote:
Also how can you know that scum would "sort them out". Actually that would only work if someone knows 100% that Jess is town, and the only ones that can know that are scum.Amianki wrote:
Yeah, because it's perfectly valid to go for a lynch on someone and see if it's worthwhile to make scum sort them or not.
Scums are continuing the tradition of keeping me alive no matter what unless I claimed some important town PR like doctor which then I die N1.Haneii wrote:
@Setsuen, why do you think you haven't been NK yet?
One of my post literally listed the possible scum tea. We lynch one scum it's probably GG. End of story.Amianki wrote:
1. Getting claims from scummy players when they're close to a lynch is standard and I can see town wanting scum to sort out Jess for town once and for all.
2. sLaiNi literally said nothing to counter my assertions and the push onto Drezi is a sidestep to deflect pressure.
Yeah, this is a scum slot.
Which means there is probably one scum among them amiright?Ace Timing wrote:
Nice to know there are more day specific double voters.
How do you come to such an assumption?Setsuen wrote:
Scums are continuing the tradition of keeping me alive no matter what unless I claimed some important town PR like doctor which then I die N1.Haneii wrote:
@Setsuen, why do you think you haven't been NK yet?One of my post literally listed the possible scum tea. We lynch one scum it's probably GG. End of story.Amianki wrote:
1. Getting claims from scummy players when they're close to a lynch is standard and I can see town wanting scum to sort out Jess for town once and for all.
2. sLaiNi literally said nothing to counter my assertions and the push onto Drezi is a sidestep to deflect pressure.
Yeah, this is a scum slot.Which means there is probably one scum among them amiright?Ace Timing wrote:
Nice to know there are more day specific double voters.
I'm well aware. The exact time I'm talking about was before the claim.Haneii wrote:
She claimed vanilla town.
I am.Haneii wrote:
@Ace & slaini: Ready to vote?
What Ace said. The chances of double voters who are ALL town are the same as there being another town miller in game other than me AFTER I claimed.sLaiNi wrote:
How do you come to such an assumption?
Use your logic of probability. There SHOULD be one scum double voter. IDC.Ace Timing wrote:
Not necessarily, I am just stating that his assumption is reasonable. If you believe it to be correct, by all means do so.
Stop choo chooing. You stated VERY few of your reads for people which make me suspicious that you DID NOT READ the entire D1 and 2. Also there is like 4days before DL so type more and slower bandwagon formation.notscience wrote:
Chugga chugga chugga chugga
WOO WOOOOOOOO
But GIF is clownpiece! (albeit not in his osu! avatar)Haneii wrote:
Off topic: Nuuuu, one of you should be clownpiece (or at least different form/hair colour).
And with that you also seemed to suggest that Jess made the NK, still think that's the case? Also even if not about Ace, you're bound to have an opinion regarding something about Magic Bomb - me pushing him, him having been sure I'm scum, his BD claim and him causing/not causing the noise N1 etc.notscience wrote:
because she was pushing Jess.
Which I've said already.
Honestly, although I can understand reading Setsuen's textwalls can be annoying, you should at least skim read them if anything to get the general message of them. Reading the posts of all players is important.notscience wrote:
I, in all honesty, did not read any of your posts of the parts of the game I have read.
I ultimately replaced in to play with pie (who died).
Which, also begs the question how drezi knows about the dynamic between me and pie.
Idk why I I can't hear things- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Hmm also, Jess, could we please hear what you heard? According to a post earlier, you're a VT, so you couldn't have done any action, so you must've heard sounds, right?
Haneii wrote:
In the case of zexion, it came down to activity. With notscience replacing in, pie would/should have be null reading the slot. I guess what I'm trying to say is if NS is scum, he'd shouldn't have felt threatened by Pie.
Actually not true. Someone can claim to hear something when in fact the person was targeted instead. It only gives a general idea, but I still believe what you said is true with not claiming sounds.Amianki wrote:
People lying about hearing or not hearing anything is NULL because town have just as much reason to lie about it as scum. The difference is scum will immediately be able to tell if someone's a town PR or not.
Somehow this just doesn't sound right. I feel like there is sarcasm involved here.-[Jess]- wrote:
plz i just a VT
Setsuen wrote:
Except I wouldn't kill people who would townread me seeing that if I was indeed invader, there is a high chance that I owuld be the last one to be lynched therefore not killing whoever town read me would have been the way to go. You obv haven't played enough epicmafia sandbox lobby to know that mafia usually kill people who voted them.sLaiNi wrote:
Also, in case that Drezi is scum, she tried to scumpaint Zexion to give her Partner (Jess) free space after Zexion gets lycnhed, so they would have 2 scums without neighbours.
Then an assumption could be Setsuen being scum, the kill pieguy first (as he was rather townread and MB was close to getting lynched anyway) and then, next night they wanted to kill MB, so Setsuen would also be free. So basically after the next day they would be completely undetectable.
The chance of her getting NK'd at this point I feel is like 0. All she's good for scum is keeping her alive in hopes town would lynch her due to playstyle. Why do you believe her VT claim?Drezi wrote:
This doesn't even make sense. What I said is I'd be happy if she were NK-d, because obviously I don't particularly enjoy having her in the game, and with people pushing for her lynch, if she's town, her getting NK-d due to a claim would be way better than getting mislynched or distracting town all the time.
Also notsci claimed hearing noises from her, and she claimed VT, so if notsci isn't lying it means someone must have targeted her last night if she's town, and there's a fair chance that we'll be able to verify that at some point.
Agreed!Setsuen wrote:
What Ace said. The chances of double voters who are ALL town are the same as there being another town miller in game other than me AFTER I claimed.sLaiNi wrote:
How do you come to such an assumption?
ew no. Personally so far I believe Jess+Slaini. I can't bring myself to believe Drezi is defending Jess still.Setsuen wrote:
I STILL SAY SLANI+ZEXION(NOTSCIENCE)+maybe more people scum team OR DREZI+RB+maybe more people scum team.
Pick your side now. Notscience OR Jess.
- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Hmm also, Jess, could we please hear what you heard? According to a post earlier, you're a VT, so you couldn't have done any action, so you must've heard sounds, right?
I already stated that I was searching for counterclaims on sounds, after sounds were heard on Jess.Raging Bull wrote:
@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.
Actually yes in order to confirm the assertion of the other people.Amianki wrote:
Bull.
Shit.
You don't need claims from everyone in order to get a counterclaim for a single action. You're pulling excuses out of your ass.
Pretty much. I don't think it's ridiculous, but okay.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
@everyone: what's with suddenly taking almost all pressure off Zexion/ns? Unless literally the only reason you were voting them was because they were getting a replacement and you didn't know if they'd find one, but that seems ridiculous.
Haneii wrote:
Pretty much. I don't think it's ridiculous, but okay.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
@everyone: what's with suddenly taking almost all pressure off Zexion/ns? Unless literally the only reason you were voting them was because they were getting a replacement and you didn't know if they'd find one, but that seems ridiculous.
Who would you like to vote for today?
Next-[Jess]- wrote:
Post after school
Not like it is not how Jess usually acts but ok.-[Jess]- wrote:
L-1 than orz
Wow. Teach me how to better myself at mafia.notscience wrote:
I doubt that any protective targetted her.
We know it wasnt a killing action or she'd be dead.
We already had an investigative flip, I highly doubt there are more than one.
So.
sLaiNi wrote:
I already stated that I was searching for counterclaims on sounds, after sounds were heard on Jess.Raging Bull wrote:
@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.
sLaiNi wrote:
@Ace I got to the most obvious conclusion and that's exactly what you posted. Either way someone wouldve started the massclaim and tbh I didn't get as much as I hoped from it.
I only needed one. And one if the conclusions acknowledges the case of that sound being false.sLaiNi wrote:
You couldn't have created your conclusion list above without the knowledge of all sounds that happened.
So please tell me how a single other soundclaim could confirm the sounds being real, if the other person next to Jess is dead?Ace Timing wrote:
I only needed one. And one if the conclusions acknowledges the case of that sound being false.sLaiNi wrote:
You couldn't have created your conclusion list above without the knowledge of all sounds that happened.
sLaiNi wrote:
So please tell me how a single other soundclaim could confirm the sounds being real, if the other person next to Jess is dead?
Presenting another scenario? Are you kidding me?Ace Timing wrote:
In this scenario I only needed one sound. Presenting another scenario will prove nothing.
So you basically accuse me of thing and negating my explanation for it, because you would only need one vote to counterclaim the soundclaim of NS and when I tell you it is not possible in case that the other person next to Jess is dead (which is actually the case now) and then you basically slip that you don't even know that.Sakura wrote:
~Night 2~
- The Register -
Current Housing
[Zexion]
[-[Jess]-]
[-VACANT-]
All Night actions are due within 24 hours of this post
slani defended Zexion who was replaced by NS. How come you're not that suspicious of NS as compared to slani?Raging Bull wrote:
@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.
I already stated that he was lurking hard. That is reason enough to policy him for both info and the fact that he has a high chance of flipping scum.Ace Timing wrote:
Pretty sure the zex wagon was just an info lynch as opposed to the alternative policy lynch on Jess.
Would you say there are abilities that change, where sounds are coming from`?Setsuen wrote:
slani defended Zexion who was replaced by NS. How come you're not that suspicious of NS as compared to slani?Raging Bull wrote:
@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.I already stated that he was lurking hard. That is reason enough to policy him for both info and the fact that he has a high chance of flipping scum.Ace Timing wrote:
Pretty sure the zex wagon was just an info lynch as opposed to the alternative policy lynch on Jess.
Also you're dreaming if you think any possible doc would be on Jess. They WOULD HAVE BEEN ON PIEGUY.
NS+Slani
or Jess+RB+Drezi
Right now I am leaning towards NS+Slani scumteam POSSIBLY with Amianki FOR VERY OBV REASON CALLED LURKING.
You literally just twist my words in my mouth. It was you who said, that you would only need two claims to have a proven sound (the one above and the one below the person who gets accused of making sounds). Then, afterwards, you make it sound like I said that lawl.Ace Timing wrote:
And how does the slot below jess being dead relate in any way to your massclaim attempt? Your massclaim won't make up for the lack of sound info from that slot at all.
the [i] Text was added by me.Ace Timing wrote:
In this scenario I only needed one sound [to have a proven soundclaim]. Presenting another scenario will prove nothing.
Sakura wrote:
Hi, you are an Outsider in the Tree (Mafia Goon)
You and your partners have invaded the treehouse to take it for your own and establish a new base of operations.
During the day you may vote and talk.
During the Night, you may do your mafia deeds.
-REDACTED-
You win when your faction controls half the votes or nothing can prevent this from happening