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Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23
It's the same with every new hero that makes it into the game.
It gets so much attention during the first week, people think it's OP, picks it in games to either stomp hard or feed heavily, then proceeds to be fade into the background the week after.

That being said. I love playing Wyvern in the offlane.
Though WC3 Wyvern looked more badass.

Give us Pit Lord already!!
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ
Pizzicato
2,739 posts
Joined February 2011
Pizzicato
this year's new bloom is disappointing :(
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic
new event sucks

everyone is stupid
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23

Like what the fuck.
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ

dat
Trash Boat
4,403 posts
Joined April 2013
Trash Boat
new in this, what should I do after completing the tutorials? and who should I use?
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ
there is no real recommendation, just stay away from chen and meepo if you have not perfect micro skills.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
Maybe play Limited Hero mode to get used to the basic game mechanics first. But if you want to learn new heroes fast I recommend playing single draft as it forces you to play a new hero everytime.
Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,817 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia

Trash Boat wrote:

new in this, what should I do after completing the tutorials? and who should I use?
Ask someone that you know and play with them. I'm totally recommending this since there's so many HATE in dota 2 right now.

You can use any hero that you want.
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23

Trash Boat wrote:

new in this, what should I do after completing the tutorials? and who should I use?
Play with someone who knows what they are doing.
The game has a pretty difficult learning curve so playing with a friend who knows their shit and be able to teach you will help tremendously.
For now go with heroes that does not need you to manage more than one unit.
Daeryu
2 posts
Joined July 2013
Daeryu
Its so hard to play Dota and Osu hoping to get better at both. They both require so much time.

Help me.
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
i wish i improved at osu! as fast as i improve at dota...
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/91712766

anyway im jsut posting because my last game i made a comeback down 35k gold and 30k xp, commended enemy ursa for handing my dusa a rapier.

cheers to all peruvians.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
i just noticed this. i need more of this. please p-flax. please deliver
Chicobo
5 posts
Joined June 2012
Chicobo
If anyone would like to play dota together, feel free to add: http://steamcommunity.com/id/gnidmas/. Mainly use/usw but I occasionally play on euw and aus server.
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ


Fear the Techies muahaha! :D
Pizzicato
2,739 posts
Joined February 2011
Pizzicato
hehe
1,975 posts
Joined November 2012
hehe
share mmr climbing tips pls

heres mine: pick slark, axe and sniper
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
mango hype
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ
Alchemist

  • Unstable Concoction countdown can now be seen by enemies
    Unstable Concoction now has an area targeting cursor
    Greevil's Greed now grants 4x gold bounty from Runes
    Alchemist can now cast Aghanim's Scepter to directly grant any allied hero all Aghanim's Scepter bonuses as a buff (the hero upgrade and the stat upgrade). The scepter is consumed in the process. Multiple instances of this buff do not stack. Alchemist can target himself as well
doesnt this sound quite good?
omochikaeri
7 posts
Joined June 2013
omochikaeri

phaZ wrote:

Alchemist

  • Unstable Concoction countdown can now be seen by enemies
    Unstable Concoction now has an area targeting cursor
    Greevil's Greed now grants 4x gold bounty from Runes
    Alchemist can now cast Aghanim's Scepter to directly grant any allied hero all Aghanim's Scepter bonuses as a buff (the hero upgrade and the stat upgrade). The scepter is consumed in the process. Multiple instances of this buff do not stack. Alchemist can target himself as well
doesnt this sound quite good?
What if you get the bounty rune on the 00:00 mark? Will it give you 8x gold? :O Lol 400 gold at the start would be kinda OP
I also think that Alch's aghs upgrade doesn't look too useful unless he's too farmed and 6-slotted already. It wouldn't really work if you play as a support too since you won't be able to farm for aghs fast enough without stealing farm from the cores.
Nwolf
2,627 posts
Joined September 2012
Nwolf
"how can we destroy the game"

"add unnecessary Aghanim's"

"okay"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHoK-pLqv_4
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
What's bad about it? Imo every hero should have an Aghs upgrade, especially now with the new Alch.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
http://imgur.com/gallery/nMTXY iG please
Magicphoenix
2,142 posts
Joined April 2010
Magicphoenix

deadbeat wrote:

http://imgur.com/gallery/nMTXY iG please
It's frightening how much alike a girl Ferrari looks in the picture of his first appearance
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
http://www.dota2.com/reborn/part1/ so this is now a thing
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
I have been playing this game for 6 years and I have only been hyped this much when they announced Dota 2. Great stuff coming up!
Ninmi
16 posts
Joined November 2013
Ninmi
Maybe with the power of the new tutorials, I'll finally be able to play this game properly.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
Anyone else here attending ESL One Frankfurt this weekend?
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23
What's up with the techies picks nowadays?
Techies just keeps popping up in pubs right now.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

Ceph23 wrote:

What's up with the techies picks nowadays?
Techies just keeps popping up in pubs right now.
guessing you didn't watch ESL one?
Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,817 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia
Dota Sad Life.

> Being a hard and only support.
> Ward Here , Ward There.
> Buy Courier and Fly them.
> Never tried to do KS.
> Stacking Neutrals
> Initiating.
> Lose Wars.
> Got blamed from the team

This is why i kinda hate supporting strangers.


:)

still won tho
sovasin
12 posts
Joined August 2013
sovasin
God fuck techies. He turns the game into a completely different beast where you have to buy 99999999999 sentries or a gem while your whole team plays ultra safe because you're so fucking paranoid about mines. Aghs upgrade is retarded and make it so fucking hard to push highground. This hero is cancer I don't know why icefrog keeps trying to force him into the meta, he needs to be deleted from the game.
Seph
Seph
So Immortal 3's are out, I'm still choosing whether to buy more levels or save up for the TI5 chests..
PrinceArua
25 posts
Joined November 2014
PrinceArua
This game is too hard ; n; I'm sticking to lol hheh
OsuMe65
1,519 posts
Joined May 2011
OsuMe65

Sovasin wrote:

God fuck techies. He turns the game into a completely different beast where you have to buy 99999999999 sentries or a gem while your whole team plays ultra safe because you're so fucking paranoid about mines. Aghs upgrade is retarded and make it so fucking hard to push highground. This hero is cancer I don't know why icefrog keeps trying to force him into the meta, he needs to be deleted from the game.

Techies bby

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http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1634550192 EZ CM game (only in SEA DOTO)
Mercurial
Mercurial
Dead thread is dead.

Tusk top pick, yo.
GSG95
406 posts
Joined October 2014
GSG95
I tried Dota. No different from CSGO.

ConquestAce
9 posts
Joined June 2013
ConquestAce
steamcommunity.com/id/conquestace

hi i like to play dota2 on the us east servers.
Mercurial
Mercurial


It's finally over, yo.
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23

Mercurial wrote:



It's finally over, yo.
I stopped trying to do my challenges a long time ago.
Messes with my already non-existent game.
Mercurial
Mercurial
The ones that were difficult to me were Vengeful Spirit and Keeper of the Light.

The other ones were easy as heck, specially Balanar. Holy shit he still is a nightmare to play against.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat


i feel so bad for fy :<
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23

deadbeat wrote:



i feel so bad for fy :<
I feel like VG has been a bit lackluster ever since that whole draft thing in china.
Seph
Seph
MAN THE BH COUR IS SO FUCKING KAWAII
repr1se
482 posts
Joined May 2014
repr1se
In terms of mechanical complexity, how does DOTA2 compare with LoL? I know both are incredibly more complex than Smite (Plat 2 jungler there). Just wondering what everyone thinks.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
@Repr1se
I have around 1k hours in LoL (peaked at plat 2 playing all roles) and around 4k hours in Dota, don't know if that makes me qualified enough to answer.
Anyway in my opinion LoL takes more raw mechanical skill in general, there is just way more focus on it. Since every champ has 4 active abilities (and some more) as oppsoed to Dota where you can have up to 3 passive skills instead and also the lower cooldowns and manacosts you can and have to use more stuff more often which I find really demanding at times, especially considering everything is a skillshot nowadays and you have to consistently dodge.
That said there are some heroes in Dota which go way beyond any LoL champ, for example Meepo, Chen, Lone Druid, Tinker etc. So if you want to have a REAL challenge try to get good at these.
Also there are way more game mechanics in Dota in general like pulling, stacking, creep aggroing (no you can't compare LoL's creepwave management to this xD) and so on, but tbh they are not really hard to pull off. Also even now I learn new tricks every other day whereas in LoL I've got the feeling I have already seen everything.

tl;dr if you care purely about mechanical complexity LoL > Dota
but in terms of overall complexity (because there is just way more stuff) Dota > LoL
Also are there any VP fangays here? Go go Illidan (yeah that's the real one)!
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ
wanna watch illidan streaming osu! someday :D

also:

why noone has posted that here, just realized it
PatZar
3,079 posts
Joined March 2013
PatZar
man being a support is fun wtf
Mercurial
Mercurial
The thing about support Tiny is that needs a shitton of mana or mana regen to work out.

NA'VI FIRST TI5 TEAM ELIMINATED HYPE
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
ah yes the tie-breaker TI between europe and china. should be interesting. Actually it's guaranteed to be interesting from what we saw in groups, this comeback meta makes a great viewing experience overall.

I'm like 99% sure it's going to end with secret vs lgd, i dont see any other turn-out. from there it's a toss-up. Teams are a lot more even and it's due in part to the very comeback mechanics that define this patch. It's not like TI3 where all the money was on Alliance to win since groups because they were visibly better than everyone else, and it's not like TI4 where.. okay to be honest i missed TI4 completely and just watched the finals via VOD and had no regrets about missing it at all..

It's gonna be hard to top ti3 finals though, regardless of who is matched up.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

ah yes the tie-breaker TI between europe and china. should be interesting. Actually it's guaranteed to be interesting from what we saw in groups, this comeback meta makes a great viewing experience overall.

I'm like 99% sure it's going to end with secret vs lgd, i dont see any other turn-out. from there it's a toss-up. Teams are a lot more even and it's due in part to the very comeback mechanics that define this patch. It's not like TI3 where all the money was on Alliance to win since groups because they were visibly better than everyone else, and it's not like TI4 where.. okay to be honest i missed TI4 completely and just watched the finals via VOD and had no regrets about missing it at all..

It's gonna be hard to top ti3 finals though, regardless of who is matched up.
Tbh you missed pretty much if you didn't watch TI4. Yeah, everyone ist circle jerking about how bad the finals were (and rightfully so), but apart from that other games were really good.

Also I am still betting on Secret vs EG finals, I don't trust LGD to keep performing at this high level considering TI2. ;)
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
secret vs eg would be great, no matter who wins, 1488 prevails. but i think it's highly unlikely to have a no-asians final.
Mercurial
Mercurial
NEWBEE IS FUCKING OUT

YAY.
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1685977625

worst game of dota 2 ive ever played in my life despite winning. nonstop hyper aggression and offensive wards and smokes and zoning and augh, noone could farm safely the whole game.

oh well, at least TI starts soonish.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
Man, I was always a Cty fan but I did not expect him to deliver in such a way this match.
Cloudchaser
2,327 posts
Joined May 2012
Cloudchaser
Anyone has the TI5 schredule? I mean, I don't know when does it start
edit
@PatZar: You have a salad of items
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2 or http://www.joindota.com/en/start
Mercurial
Mercurial
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Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS BYE BYE SECRET
♥ Virtus.Pro ♥
Cloudchaser
2,327 posts
Joined May 2012
Cloudchaser
My bets were all in Secret

brb crying
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23
Allstar match is taking a long time to start man.
10 v 10 hype
Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,817 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia
Gaah, i didn't have enough of quota for that.

Will DL the replay later.
PatZar
3,079 posts
Joined March 2013
PatZar

Mercurial wrote:

The thing about support Tiny is that needs a shitton of mana or mana regen to work out.

NA'VI FIRST TI5 TEAM ELIMINATED HYPE
i'm random player, and my team was support me to avoid a shit feeder tag lol
ALSO, RIP NAVIFAG LOL

Shurelia wrote:

LUCA MASTERRACE metafalica <3
Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,817 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia
This year's TI5 All Stars match is probably the best match i've ever seen.

That comeback is asdf.

Mercurial
Mercurial
Too bad they didn't release Pit Lord (Abyssal Underlord) because of a bug.
Cloudchaser
2,327 posts
Joined May 2012
Cloudchaser
best comeback ever
Zuikaku
129 posts
Joined March 2014
Zuikaku
xsrsbsns
1,935 posts
Joined July 2010
xsrsbsns
LB Finals and Grand Finals LETS GO

Hope EG beats LGD to face CDEC again, and then we get a 5-game grand finals. Nothing but some good ol' china vs NA dota, but if it happens this time it's a fucking wildcard team vs the only western hope! Benefits the viewership too, they'd lose much western fans hype in general if it's gonna be an all-chinese finals. Ppd pls deliver an actual draft this time. Although ultimately I'm leaning towards CDEC because such a beautiful story if they win it all.

JIA YOU
OsuMe65
1,519 posts
Joined May 2011
OsuMe65
dat 10 v 10 prehorn clash tho
Mercurial
Mercurial
Something inside of me wants EG to win TI5 because of Universe, but I dont want EG to win TI5 because of ppd and Sumail.
California_old_1
581 posts
Joined March 2012
California_old_1
SumaiL too strong
PatZar
3,079 posts
Joined March 2013
PatZar
VP too strong
Garpo
174 posts
Joined March 2014
Garpo
I can't say I wanted EG to win, but it ended up that way.
Seph
Seph
WOOOOOOOOO 2EZ4EG

GRATS OLD MAN FEAR <3
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
I can finally start having a normal sleep schedule again.
Cloudchaser
2,327 posts
Joined May 2012
Cloudchaser
EG IS STRONK LIKE MOTHER RUSSIA.
YES
IM HAPPY ez

also praise deadmau5
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
EG MASTER RACE
Cloudchaser
2,327 posts
Joined May 2012
Cloudchaser
If Fear keeps playing, the next TI will be with his grandchildren. lol'd
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
PatZar
3,079 posts
Joined March 2013
PatZar

deadbeat wrote:

EG MASTER RACE

deadbeat wrote:

Cloudchaser wrote:

EG IS STRONK LIKE MOTHER RUSSIA.
YES
IM HAPPY ez

also praise deadmau5
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23
Old man fear finally takes the championship.

Edit: Also syndereN made Tobiwan look so really small man.
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
lets not forget the best moment of TI5, i fell out of my chair from shock

Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,817 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia
any good hero to counter QOP on mid ?

I tried DP but i won't be able to play on Late game.

Tried clockwerk and it's no no.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp

Shurelia wrote:

any good hero to counter QOP on mid ?

I tried DP but i won't be able to play on Late game.

Tried clockwerk and it's no no.
You won't have a chance with melee heroes.

Try Lina, Skywrath, TA, Puck, Pugna, Leshrac.
Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,817 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia
Maybe i should sharpen my Lina's skills then.

Thanks for the suggestions.
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
you dont need to beat qop in lane to win game, just don't lose it terribly and don't not punish her roam.

qop is win lane lose game: the hero

just pick something that's better out of lane
Triskelion91
155 posts
Joined March 2011
Triskelion91

Shurelia wrote:

any good hero to counter QOP on mid ?

I tried DP but i won't be able to play on Late game.

Tried clockwerk and it's no no.
Just pick Lesh.
Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,817 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia
Dunno if i should use Lesh or not. orz
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23

Shurelia wrote:

Dunno if i should use Lesh or not. orz
why not?
It's a great hero, gives the team a little bit of everything.
Also lightning storm now makes landing that stun way easier.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
Don't turn him into a dirty Leshrac picker. :^)
Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,817 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia
Well, will try to use him after i finished learning to use Storm properly. :^)

Also tried to use morph but meh.. 0<--<
Triskelion91
155 posts
Joined March 2011
Triskelion91
Who cares if you're a dirty Lesh picker, you gotta do what you gotta do to win. :D
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23

Shurelia wrote:

Also tried to use morph but meh.. 0<--<
Morph has fallen quite far every patch.
remember Ti2 morphling? yeah those were the days.
PatZar
3,079 posts
Joined March 2013
PatZar
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1711062998

i have no idea what this tiny was trying to do with that build, but he sure did make it easy to win [im the disgusting slark picker]
Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23
10 v 10 games are a lot of fun man.
Chaos everywhere.
Seph
Seph
wow EG that logic wowowowow

>kick a winner
>get back a loser

holyfucking shit ahahahahahaha, also

ＨＥＹ　ＰＰＤ，　Ｉ’Ｍ　ＴＲＹＩＮＧ　ＴＯ　ＬＥＡＲＮ　ＴＯ　ＰＬＡＹ　ＲＩＫＩ．　Ｉ　ＪＵＳＴ　ＨＡＶＥ　Ａ　ＱＵＥＳＴＩＯＮ　ＡＢＯＵＴ　ＴＨＥ　ＳＫＩＬＬ　ＢＵＩＬＤ：　ＳＨＯＵＬＤ　Ｉ　ＭＡＸ　ＢＡＣＫＳＴＡＢ　ＬＩＫＥ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＡＣＫＳＴＡＢＢＥＤ
Triskelion91
155 posts
Joined March 2011
Triskelion91
It's because they aren't kicking Fear, who is the face of EG. He wanted to play support because of his hand injury, which leaves Aui the odd one out.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
hahaha the time after TI is my second most favourite time of the year, just because of stuff like this *grabs popcorn*
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