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Aurani
Nida relies HEAVILY on stemrolling opponents, and once she goes ahead, she's unstoppable, however, when behind, she's comparable to cow feces, as she can neither tank, nor deal damage at that point AND has absolutely no cc what-so-ever.

Shyv has less capability at stemrolling, but balances it by being both tanky AND dealing massive damage with the devourer, so those two aren't comparable across the board.

You see, just because you can get ahead easier with her and eat people away whilst still being off-tank, doesn't mean you're unbeatable. She's still incredibly easy to kite and a lack of low-cd gapclosers means that getting locked down equals instant death.

I'm most definitely sure that there will be better junglers as the patches change, and those will certainly not rely on the sheer stupidity of the enemy to win.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

I'm most definitely sure that there will be better junglers as the patches change, and those will certainly not rely on the sheer stupidity of the enemy to win.
We're talking about this patch though. The FOTM changes as the patches change.
Aurani
My point was that she's overrated because people think that just because she's above average now compared to when she was just shit, that she's an instant win and freelo.
Yes, she is way better at clearing and generally being annoying to play against (basically what Nunu used to be), but far from OP as all the fanboys claim her to be.

Damnit now I feel like playing, but I'm not going to be home for the next 2 months..
Justykanna
I'm honestly not a huge fan of Shyvana either because if she's jungling, her clear speeds are great, yeah, but when she comes to a lane, she has almost no CC - which is the part of being a jungler that I feel would be super useful when coming to a lane. Even Nunu can chuck a snowball at you at the slow's pretty significant.
But what do I know, I'm sure most others here are a higher rank than I.
Kyonko Hizara

Justykanna wrote:

I'm honestly not a huge fan of Shyvana either because if she's jungling, her clear speeds are great, yeah, but when she comes to a lane, she has almost no CC - which is the part of being a jungler that I feel would be super useful when coming to a lane. Even Nunu can chuck a snowball at you at the slow's pretty significant.
But what do I know, I'm sure most others here are a higher rank than I.
If the other jg has good CC then if you're playing Shyv you can get fucked so easily. Even with good clear and if Shyv can stay ahead she still can get caught out in larger team fights. Playing her jg I noticed in fights 3v3 or smaller or if the ally team has more players at the area then she can get out decent damage, but even so I feel like it can be odd to get in the fight unless you throw out dragon form.
Falling behind with her too can also get pretty bad. I mean, that's so with anyone, but as her I found myself falling even slightly behind late game was putting me in a much worse position than with some other jg's.

I'm sure someone with more experience than I tho wouldn't have any of these problems ;~;
Mismagius
something I don't like about shyvana jg is that her ult never seems to help the gank and ends up saving the other team >_>
Kyonko Hizara
>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Mismagius
I'm thinking about creating an account on NA for fun, but not sure if I'll be able to handle the 200+ ping
DahplA

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Sounds like every one of my games.

"All you had to do was not die". And the guy was playing Tryndamere.
-SayaKai
>my teammate Darius always excited for dr
>my Ashe's ss is always dodge
>ggwp win
EneT

-SayaKai wrote:

>my teammate Darius always excited for dr
>my Ashe's ss is always dodge
>ggwp win
I didn't even understand anything you just said.
Renevant

Blue Dragon wrote:

I'm thinking about creating an account on NA for fun, but not sure if I'll be able to handle the 200+ ping
\o/

Haven't been able to play support much because of the new champ. It's kinda irritating in ranked.
Kyonko Hizara

DahplA wrote:

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Sounds like every one of my games.

"All you had to do was not die". And the guy was playing Tryndamere.
It's when they don't even try and then complain that they are doing shit all because jg won't gank or mid won't wander.

Better to go out dying and trying than dying and being a little bitch about it.
Renevant
I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
Trip

Renevant wrote:

I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
Personally I don't think her new R suits her gameplay or her fighting style as it forces her to fight in one place after the zone is activated and when has a grand duelist ever healed them and their team?!

Is she transplanting organs from her enemies to her teammates? Who knows...with this in mind all I can think of is a Nurse Fiora skin
OzzyOzrock
Yeah the heal makes no sense if she's a dueler lmao
Kyonko Hizara

Renevant wrote:

I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
So they take an already annoying champ and make her more op
Aurani
I'm sad to see her change, since I remember falling in love with her when I just began playing - more vividly than I can the other champs.

I used to think that 6300 IP was insanely high, so I grinded it with Pantheon bot... ulting people recalling below the tower and stuff. Her and Cait were my most captivating champs - probably because I used to watch my cousin wreck high-elo ranked with them in a few matches, back when I was an utter nab.
Boy oh boy, those nostalgic moments...

At least her rework has been a proper one, and I can properly bury the memories of my early days with her.
Rukario
Witch Mercy
Them teemo buffs op
Renevant
Honestly, it's not that bad. His trap duration is only 5 minutes now. He'll be much more annoying in lane with the stealth and ranged shroom-placing, but he won't have much of an effect teamfight wise or late game. All they did was make is laning phase better and maybe his split pushing. If a teemo user still doesn't know how to place mushrooms or use them correctly, then it's definitely a nerf to him.
EneT
Ok, I just came back on LoL after coming back from abroad and the new overlay is so weird to get used to. I've lost several trades and resulted in lost games because I just forget where everything is, don't even notice that I lvl'ed up etc.
OzzyOzrock
They're gonna change a ton of shit but apparently it's gonna be 2 weeks of suffering
Kyonko Hizara
I'm not too fond of the mini map being changed to be in the upper right because that reminds me of when I played Smite and I found it hard to pay attention to the map in that sort of placement.
PyaKura
China just had the UI remake here and oh my god it's beautiful, but that's about it. It takes fucking forever for me to check my CDs, especially items' actives and summoners'. Everything is too cramped at the bottom of the screen and the rest feels insanely empty.
EneT
In case you didn't know, along with the UI changes you can now see the cooldowns of your entire team's summoner spells and everyone gets the dragon timer regardless of whether you had vision on it or not when it was taken.
Kyonko Hizara
I still feel like the dragon and baron timers going off regardless of vision seems a bit cheap. I guess that gives you more wards to put other places then.
Feast
New UI is just about getting used to it & I don't like the Dragon/Baron timers when you have no vision but that's just me I guess.
OzzyOzrock
well, let's face it, we already knew they got dragon because of the icon, and we already they got baron because of the buff.

though it definitely sucks that it'll be harder to sneak it in the seconds where they mistime the respawn
Stefan
That's actually a cool change to Teemo, still finding him not that good as champion in general.


And that new Fizz skin..... Aye, it's time for some fish sticks.
Feast

OzzyOzrock wrote:

well, let's face it, we already knew they got dragon because of the icon, and we already they got baron because of the buff.

though it definitely sucks that it'll be harder to sneak it in the seconds where they mistime the respawn
I agree on the fact that it won't matter much for the Dragon but I think it's kinda big for Baron, I saw a post on reddit few days ago showing Innox (midlaner for NME) going to put a ward on Baron but it was already done & he ended up being caught & died for that. Just for that kind of things I think it's pretty bad, but well I agree that's not a huge gamebreaking change & I can deal with it (not like I have the choice tho)
Nofool
so i just played an aram 8-) (4 quadra 1 penta...)

-SayaKai
That Black Market Brawlers, that made me crazy.
PyaKura
I don't really mind the Dragon/Baron timers being shown to both team regardless of vision, however I'm not sure what Riot was thinking by doing so. All I can see is even more Dragon/Baron dance and teamfights in general.
-SayaKai

PyaKura wrote:

I don't really mind the Dragon/Baron timers being shown to both team regardless of vision, however I'm not sure what Riot was thinking by doing so. All I can see is even more Dragon/Baron dance and teamfights in general.
True, also the BR Steal too.

Anyway, pray for gangplank. Why ;w;
EneT
Not sure about the baron but the reasoning behind showing dragon timer is because regardless of whether you have vision on it or not, both teams can hear the death of dragon anyways and can time the next dragon from that. So Riot thought they might aswell show timers since it's already a big giveaway. Showing dragon timers only really affect low elo anyways.
Witch Mercy
this new mode is literally cancer
only playing for icon zzz
OzzyOzrock
but the cloning item is amazing ;w;
Kyonko Hizara
I had some extra RP left over so I decided to buy a mystery skin and it gave me Mistletoe LeBlanc. Too bad I am too much of a pussy to use her.
EneT

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

I had some extra RP left over so I decided to buy a mystery skin and it gave me Mistletoe LeBlanc. Too bad I am too much of a pussy to use her.
This is exactly what my friend did yesterday, except he got Pulsefire Ezreal.
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