20:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: I may help you if you aim for rank w
20:16 *aabc271 is away: Dinner :3
20:16 *Nardoxyribonucleic is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742015 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i]
20:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: quite rare to see that you finished a set
20:17 aabc271: \:D/
20:17 aabc271: Yeah, I'm trying that, but well... =w=
20:17 aabc271: Let's see
20:19 aabc271: You know this anime?
20:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, I'm watching it
20:19 aabc271: "看完之后有些网友表示要跑去重看《請問您今天要來點兔子嗎?》來治愈一下"
20:20 aabc271: "很多在这之前没有看过原作、只是带着“看萌妹子、百合、萌萌小loli手撕丧尸”的心态追番的网友顿时惨叫一片"
20:20 Nardoxyribonucleic: ww
20:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm immune because I watched something more horrible than this like Brynhildr in the Darkness
20:22 aabc271: So yeah, explosive anime
20:22 aabc271: Fok me
20:22 *aabc271 wants moemoe happy no brain anime but foked
20:23 Nardoxyribonucleic: www
20:55 aabc271: Oh, your star
20:55 aabc271:
20:55 aabc271: Thx <3
20:55 Nardoxyribonucleic:
21:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm going to mod it. Is the set updated to the newest version?
21:08 aabc271: Yeah, feel free to mod
21:08 aabc271: Thx <333
21:08 aabc271: But as ono said, you guys can't even star/bubble
21:08 aabc271: Because sp not yet 12
21:08 aabc271: lol
21:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: yep so we should reach +12 before bubbling
21:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: aabc is trying to speedrank his map in 3 to 4 days xD
21:10 aabc271: lol I dunno
21:10 aabc271: But I didn't expect things to turn out so well and fast
21:10 Nardoxyribonucleic: because Ono ww
21:10 aabc271: I give to ono -> ono hahahahaha I will mod hahahahahahaha
21:10 aabc271: lol
21:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: btw I'm not sure whether there should be spaces between fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i
21:12 aabc271: ふ・れ・ん・ど・し・た・い <- Japanese name
21:12 aabc271: That ・ is full size font
21:12 aabc271: But for english one, yeah I'm not sure
21:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: so maybe just fu.re.n.do.shi.ta.i ? idk too
21:16 aabc271: Good question
21:17 aabc271: I asked ono
21:17 aabc271: And he'll help me ask kshr
21:17 aabc271: lol
21:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
21:17 aabc271: What about capital letters? Not needed right?
21:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: would be good to find some metadata experts
21:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think so, since the words are rather fragmented
21:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: no capital letters would be okay imo
21:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: let's see what kshr says
21:19 aabc271: =w=b
21:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: Are you free now? I think irc mod would save more time.
21:25 aabc271: Sure
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: As the map is generally polished =w=b
21:25 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742015 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Kantan]]
21:25 aabc271: =w=b
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:20:026 (2) - consider adding finish here to emphasize the stressed sound?
21:26 aabc271: Seems ok but I think 00:18:607 (2,1,2) - are quite similarly stressed?
21:26 aabc271: Also if I add finish that does it collide with 00:21:040 (1) - ?
21:26 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think it is louder at 00:20:026 (2) -
21:27 Nardoxyribonucleic: would be okay since there are considerable spacing (5/2) in between
21:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: what do you think?
21:29 aabc271: It makes sense but then 00:20:026 (2,1,2) - I dunno which notes I'm emphasizing lol
21:30 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok, you may keep it as d then :3
21:30 aabc271: 01:13:540 - Similar things here, I think the later d k actually sounds heavier but I still have no finish there
21:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay.
21:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:27:324 (1) - move to 00:27:121 - ? I think using 1/1 would make a better spread with Futsuu
21:35 aabc271: ^ That's the only 1/2 in the diff. I'm fine to delete (1) but moving might mislead players?
21:35 aabc271: Because that kk is so obvious lol
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: it would be okay for beginners
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: 1/2 would be more stressful to them
21:36 aabc271: I think I'll just delete it then
21:36 Nardoxyribonucleic: Also, there is a clear beat at 00:27:121 -
21:36 aabc271: 1.51 -> 1.39 lol star rating
21:37 aabc271: Is it fine if I just keep it empty? Because other 1/1 x3 are following obvious music
21:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, I'm quite experienced in dealing with the star rating system w
21:37 aabc271: eg 00:23:472 (1,1,1)
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: hmm... maybe delete the whole 1/2 kk at 00:27:324 (1,2) - ?
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: a 4/1 break will be formed
21:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: after the dense 1st kiai, I think it is good to insert some rest moments
21:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: for Kantan
21:41 aabc271: Possible but I've already done at 00:49:418 -? Also kantan might be then too easy compared with futsuu?
21:42 aabc271: ^ Quieter section
21:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: But the pattern from 00:08:472 - to 00:49:418 - is a bit consecutive
21:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: about 40s x_x
21:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: so one break in between would be nice imo
21:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: a 4/1 break can also emphasize the big kat at 00:28:337 (2) - too
21:45 aabc271: I can delete notes like 00:22:661 (3) -, 00:25:905 (2) -, 00:29:148 (3) -
21:45 aabc271: But is that too much?
21:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes, that would be too much...
21:45 aabc271: I'd prefer keeping the hitsound following music, you know
21:46 aabc271: Is this kantan really harder than other ones?
21:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: not really except its continuity
21:47 aabc271: Or what about 00:35:634 (1) -, 00:42:121 (1) - ?
21:47 aabc271: Dunno, it might sound odd lol
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: there is vocal, so I think a break within the previous non-vocal section would sound more natural
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: also new stanza starts at 00:28:337 -
21:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: A break before that seems to be good
21:50 aabc271: I know your point but I don't really find a good spot to do that...
21:50 aabc271: Am I too persistent?
21:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: a bit ww
21:51 aabc271: No wonder I reject most mods usually
21:51 aabc271: lol
21:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: same for me
21:51 aabc271: But in the past I regreted changing certain mods
21:52 aabc271: When it gets ranked I realised I didn't really like
21:52 aabc271: It sounds arrogant to use the "I'm experienced" argument, but then at the same it hurts people when I reject too much
21:52 aabc271: x_x
21:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: idk, but the 40s session is in fact quite dense compared to most ranked Kantans
21:54 aabc271: Maybe, if you really want to cut it half, delete 00:27:526 (1) -?
21:54 aabc271: It sounds worse to me but I think that's already a better solution
21:55 aabc271: Because background "dkdd kk" is pretty much connected
21:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: quite strange if 00:27:324 (1) - stands alone...
21:55 aabc271: Yes, returns to my point again
21:56 aabc271: 00:24:283 (1,1) - 00:27:526 (1,2) -, 00:30:769 (1,1) -, 00:34:013 (2,1) -
21:56 aabc271: These are the gaps I can hear, but then they're actually same in length with other parts with notes
21:57 aabc271: So somehow they disappear
21:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: I could understand that
21:58 aabc271: Unlike 00:49:418 (6,7) - which I think I don't need explaining
21:59 aabc271: Unless I give up dkd, dkd, DKK, I don't think there're really nice places to add longer rests until ~0:49
22:00 aabc271: Deleting 00:36:851 (1,1) - or 00:37:256 (1) - might be possible but then the consecutive section remains 30s long
22:00 aabc271: ^ Also 00:42:932 -
22:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: ahh... It is not good to struggle for one single suggestion for that long. You can delete 00:27:324 (1) - first, then Ono will reassess it
22:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: but to me one 4/1 break would be nice in between the 40s session
22:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: Is it okay?
22:03 aabc271: For now I updated
22:04 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hope that you are not forced to do that ;w;
22:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: I know it is hard to decide
22:05 aabc271: My decision is simple. You know, I originally put 1/2 kk there
22:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: so at present, you removed the whole 1/2 kk, right?
22:05 aabc271: I'd prefer a compromise of deleting one k but well
22:06 aabc271: Never mind, let's move on
22:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: alright
22:07 aabc271: Kantan 4☆ -> 3☆
22:07 aabc271: -2 combo already so powerful
22:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: yep, because the 1/2 beat is gone...
22:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: Kantan seems to be nice now~
22:11 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742011 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Futsuu]]
22:12 aabc271: Wait, ono is proposing different things
22:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
22:16 aabc271: I'm not trying to argue hard on one single note, but I just noticed 00:20:026 (2,1) - 00:14:351 (1,2) - are actually > 1/1 breaks
22:16 aabc271: Ono suggested deleting some other odd notes instead lol
22:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: ...for example?
22:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: while I think the notes are fine, Ono has a different view
22:18 aabc271: 00:40:499 (1) - this
22:18 aabc271: Deleting this, ono suggested
22:20 Nardoxyribonucleic: hmm it's possible too
22:21 aabc271: I'll just bath for now, brb soon
22:21 aabc271: Leave any mod suggestions here
22:23 Nardoxyribonucleic: So... What is your decision about deletion now?
22:23 *aabc271 is away: Bath :3
22:38 aabc271: Broken Mon a0624701
22:38 aabc271: Oops
22:39 aabc271: I thought the pc was locked
22:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: :O
22:39 aabc271: lol that's my pc unlock password
22:39 aabc271: I thought I locked but didn't
22:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: change pw please (though I cannot break your pc anyway :3
22:42 aabc271: lol I found I typed the numbers wrongly
22:42 aabc271: No worries
22:42 aabc271: Should be some digits left/right
22:43 aabc271: Nardo pro hacker controls my pc
22:43 aabc271: o.O
22:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: lol ww
22:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: 22:23 ^
22:44 aabc271: I think deleting 00:40:499 - is possible, but once again I don't think 40s having 1/1 rests only is really a problem
22:44 aabc271: It's not just whether 1/1 or not but also bpm affects
22:45 aabc271: If it's like 248 of course I agree with you
22:45 aabc271: But I believe 148 is easy enough for most new players
22:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yep. Ono dq maps regardless of song bpm x_x Anyway, I should not be so persistent too... Hope that you don't feel unhappy
22:46 aabc271: No why'd I feel unhappy lol
22:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: if I recall correctly according to my BN experience
22:46 aabc271: It's just... my ideas not accepted but since people have reasons, I won't get mad
22:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: 148bpm is not fast to me too.
22:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: the deletion suggestion I pointed out is just a "precaution" to prevent DQ
22:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: so feel free to reject if you don't like
22:48 aabc271: Yeah, but since ono didn't even realise this until I tell him
22:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: quality-wise the Kantan should be okay :3
22:48 aabc271: I wonder if my map would really get dq because of that
22:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: who knows... Remember the DQ reasons I showed you few days ago?
22:49 aabc271: Yes, too amazing x_x
22:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: so nothing is changed atm for Kantan, am I right?
22:50 aabc271: Um... yeah, I'm sorry
22:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: It's fine. Let's move to Futsuu then
22:50 aabc271: Ah no, at least I have no 1/2 kk now
22:50 aabc271: lol
22:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: I see. You applied the deletion of 00:27:324 - ?
22:52 aabc271: Yes
22:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay
22:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: that's what I intended too w
22:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: any question till this moment?
22:53 aabc271: Fine, let's go to next diff? :3
22:53 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742011 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Futsuu]]
22:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice vocal mapping starts to flow :3
22:55 aabc271: Yeah, my style is hard to show when it's too easy
22:55 aabc271: lol
22:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:07:459 (2,3,1) - :3
22:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: owob
22:55 aabc271: owob
23:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: From 00:34:824 - to 00:47:797 - , you may want to use some 1/2 notes since Muzukashii used many of them
23:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: one good spot is 00:40:702 -
23:02 aabc271: Yeah I'm aware of that but had no idea how to add
23:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: add k?
23:02 aabc271: Good
23:02 aabc271: Added
23:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:46:580 - add d?
23:04 aabc271: Fine, added
23:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: spread concern also appears from 00:54:283 - to 00:57:526 -
23:08 aabc271: What concern?
23:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: Muzu is full of 1/2 in the session. Maybe try to add a bit more notes as well?
23:10 aabc271: Um
23:10 aabc271: I can make futsuu harder but then kantan is too easy
23:10 aabc271: Or I can make muzu easier but then muzu-oni spread?
23:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: a compromise is to add two notes only, at 00:54:891 - and 00:56:107 - in Futsuu
23:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: don't know it flows good or not x_x
23:12 aabc271:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3401493 Futsuu
23:12 aabc271: D k d D k d K?
23:13 aabc271: What do you think?
23:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice enough.
23:13 aabc271: Good, then fixed as shown in screenshot
23:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
23:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: then Kantan uses the previous pattern of Futsuu?
23:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: add k at 00:55:094 - and add d at 00:56:310 -
23:14 aabc271: kk
23:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: the spread would be more even now :3
23:15 aabc271: =w=
23:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: tracing a bit back to 00:16:580 (2) - while k is used there, d is used at 01:10:094 (1) - . Is it intentional?
23:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: personally I would prefer both d =w=
23:19 aabc271: Oh, let me see
23:19 aabc271: Should be d
23:19 aabc271: Fixed
23:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok w
23:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: Futsuu is fine now. Breaks are properly inserted according to the music, and nice vocal mapping =w=b
23:23 aabc271: =w=b
23:23 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/741992 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Muzukashii]]
23:26 Nardoxyribonucleic: maybe k at 00:10:094 (2) - like 00:09:283 (1) - ? The vocal pitch seems to be the same.
23:28 aabc271: Changed all to kddk ddkd
23:28 aabc271: Totally 6 times I think
23:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay
23:28 aabc271: Ah no, 10 times
23:28 aabc271: lol
23:29 aabc271: No wonder why this song so brainwashing
23:29 aabc271: I see the anime -> "Yes I need to map this"
23:29 aabc271: lol
23:29 Nardoxyribonucleic: repeating the same rhythm would be catchy ww
23:30 aabc271: Feature of happy no brain anime
23:30 aabc271: But again this foks me
23:31 Nardoxyribonucleic: 2 in 1st kiai, 4 from 00:21:851 - to 00:34:824 - , and 4 in 2nd kiai?
23:31 aabc271: Yes
23:31 aabc271: So 10
23:31 aabc271: Brainwash song
23:41 aabc271: Um, you're still here right? lol
23:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes
23:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: no problem for Muzu now lol
23:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: so consistent
23:43 aabc271:
23:44 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/738739 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Oni]]
23:44 aabc271: Finally oni
23:44 aabc271:
23:45 aabc271: 00:28:337 - Maybe I should add finish? (Consistency with muzu?)
23:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: my modding speed is rather slow, sorry for any inconvenience ;w;
23:45 aabc271: Take your time =w=
23:45 aabc271: I'm usually slower
23:45 aabc271: irc mod always takes me hours
23:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, please add it
23:47 aabc271: Done
23:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: at this level, the kat at 00:09:283 - can be kept imo
23:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: which fits the clapping sound well
23:51 aabc271: Yes, different from 1/2 only
23:51 aabc271: k ddk k sounds better than k ddd k
00:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think that's all :3
00:03 aabc271: \:D/
00:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice and consistent Oni as usual
00:03 aabc271: =w=b
00:04 aabc271: I'll update
00:04 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok, I'll recheck all the things afterwards
00:04 aabc271: Done
00:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: what about song title now? any suggestion from kshr?
00:05 aabc271: Oh, ono is offline
00:05 aabc271: Baka him
00:05 aabc271: D:
00:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: no problem, I'll leave that issue to him
00:06 aabc271: So we don't have to care that for now?
00:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: maybe I add a sidenote on my post regarding it?
00:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: so Ono will take care of it
00:08 aabc271: If you like :3
00:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: The set looks fine now
00:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'll post the irc mod~
00:17 aabc271: k thx <3