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EneT

Justykanna wrote:

Yup, I know it's two turret shots for a melee minion and one for the caster. My only problem is that even if one turret shot, the caster minion still has enough health left that I can't just auto attack him with most of my champions (Gangplank, Garen, Malpihte). At least with Malphite, his W's mana cost is small. =)

He's been my jungler for the better part of two seasons now (Seasons 3 and 4 and when I'm forced into jungle this season) so it's strange to all of a sudden hear he's a top laner (same when I heard Wukong and Malphite were a junglers after using them in the top lane... people need to make up their bloody minds with my laners...). So I might need to experiment with Maokai if top lane's something that's going to happen with me. xD
That's why you need to Auto attack before the turret hits the minion and then auto attack again after the turret hits it. This applies for all laners that can't one hit minions after turret hits.

The main reason for Maokai converting into a top laner is the change to his ult last season. His Ult follows him instead of staying in one place and this allowed him to be a complete tank.
Justykanna

EneT wrote:

That's why you need to Auto attack before the turret hits the minion and then auto attack again after the turret hits it. This applies for all laners that can't one hit minions after turret hits.

The main reason for Maokai converting into a top laner is the change to his ult last season. His Ult follows him instead of staying in one place and this allowed him to be a complete tank.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I loved the R change to for Maokai. But he's still more comfortable in the jungle for me than top lane because that's where I've used him for so long.
Aurani
Is there a way for someone to get into the same game with you (basically stalk you with second-precision) based on your username only? I mean, there are sites that tell you when you're already in-game, but not one for literally pressing the button at the same time as your stalkee. The guy who did it must be from this forum, as he knows about my vacation in France, knows I'm from Serbia and has some weird fetish regarding my British accent.

He knows too much to be a random, and he isn't on my friends list.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

Is there a way for someone to get into the same game with you (basically stalk you with second-precision) based on your username only? I mean, there are sites that tell you when you're already in-game, but not one for literally pressing the button at the same time as your stalkee. The guy who did it must be from this forum, as he knows about my vacation in France, knows I'm from Serbia and has some weird fetish regarding my British accent.

He knows too much to be a random, and he isn't on my friends list.
Unless you're in Master or Challenger then no. Other than that you must have a major stalker that found a loophole to the system.
Renevant

Aurani wrote:

I mean, there are sites that tell you when you're already in-game
Only way i can think of that is possible would be doing this. If you enter a new game right after your last, then i suppose its possible.

That sounds a little creepy though.. Unfortunately, i dont think ignoring the person in game removes the chance you will be matched with them.
EneT
Anyways to those looking for freelo, go Ezreal mid with Smite and the jungler item, Rune Glaive before Ezreal gets nerfed next patch. I climbed my way back to Master league after getting decayed to Diamond doing this.
Renevant

EneT wrote:

Anyways to those looking for freelo, go Ezreal mid with Smite and the jungler item, Rune Glaive before Ezreal gets nerfed next patch.
Lmao, i saw the damage charts for that. It is ridiculous
EneT
Yeah they're nerfing Ezreal by making it so his Q doesn't proc Ludens.
Renevant

EneT wrote:

Yeah they're nerfing Ezreal by making it so his Q doesn't proc Ludens.
Only with the item though, right? I don't think Ezreal's Q usually procs Luden's.
Aurani

EneT wrote:

Anyways to those looking for freelo, go Ezreal mid with Smite and the jungler item, Rune Glaive before Ezreal gets nerfed next patch. I climbed my way back to Master league after getting decayed to Diamond doing this.
Oh right, I saw it on Scarra's stream.

OP as shit.
EneT

Renevant wrote:

Only with the item though, right? I don't think Ezreal's Q usually procs Luden's.
Yeah, the only reason it procs Luden's is because of the spellblade from Rune Glaive. The item essentially makes Ezreal have 0 faults to his kit. AP Ezreal's only downside is that he has no waveclear so he wastes all his mana clearing waves and he can't effectively poke because of this. But with Rune Glaive all of his faults are eliminated and you are left with a poke-heavy, damage-heavy, assassin-like mid-laner; the perfect mid lane champ. His W leaves opponents down to 40% hp and not only that, it hits mulitple enemies too; Q for poke, E for kiting and extra damage and his ult for clearing waves, sniping people and generally being a massive damage dealer.
Renevant
I see, he's probably just gonna get banned every game since people are aware now.
I wonder if they're gonna do a hotfix for this, especially since its been confirmed to be a bug.
Froslass
u shud stop playing velkoz mid!!! play with a good champ ffs!!!


Renevant
Im glad someone is still playing him. He was fun to play as a support. I was able to practice my geometry skilllls.
roufou
feels nice to be demoted when you go 14/5/8
Renevant
This was a fun game. I'm the lux.

Justykanna
The amount of excitement I get from seeing the Gangplank rework... =D ! Yayyyy!
Katze

Justykanna wrote:

The amount of excitement I get from seeing the Gangplank rework... =D ! Yayyyy!
I'm so happy! He turned out so great, I'm glad they didn't ruin him
HazeL_old_1
Now im HazeL Yee from PH server
Gold 2. Girl gamer.
Best pick: LUX, Yi, ashe, blitz, chogath, nasus, garen, leona... etc
Justykanna

Katze wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

The amount of excitement I get from seeing the Gangplank rework... =D ! Yayyyy!
I'm so happy! He turned out so great, I'm glad they didn't ruin him
As am I. He's been my main since Season 3. =)
PrinceArua

Justykanna wrote:

The amount of excitement I get from seeing the Gangplank rework... =D ! Yayyyy!
It's really great! The E will be such an interesting ability to see being utilized different by the players. And the ultimate upgrade-system is a cool concept as well. It's a shame that he got such a cool update and MF's model got slightly piffed and they added two minor tweaks to her Q and W... I just want her to be more viable. *sigh*
Aurani
They removed her Grievous Wounds and instead gave her a fucking slightly-buffed version of Vayne's shit. Her speed boost matters little when you actually activate that shit in a fight - it only truly shines when you're chasing down your prey. Thing is, by removing the GV that basically took a dump on every adc/suppor's attempt at healing, you're weakening her dueling potential, and giving her an ability to chase shit down instead, when you already got your ult for that. I mean, it's just an incredibly sloppy tweak and I want to congratulate the moron who had the idea to implement such a thing.

Remember, whatever your argument is, it's shit, because let's be honest here - she HAS to activate that W in a fight because that's essentially her steroid ability, and that shit has a rather high cooldown, so what happens when you beat your opponent in a fight? Chase him down with that W of yours that you activated a few seconds ago, that has a cooldown of 16 seconds? Oh yeah I'm sure it'll totally work out fine.

It'll only work out if both you and your enemy are level 18 and have only 2 items, as that might actually take you 16 secs to bring him low to be able to re-use the ability to chase him down.
EneT
Tfw you only just realised that the cd for Ezreal ult is reduced by 1 everytime you land Q even though he's been one of your main champs for the past 3 seasons.
BrokenArrow
Hey guys
Play Kayle jungle with the new Sated Devourer
Do it while it's not banned yet
It's broken

I haven't tried other Devourer junglers like Yi or Shyvana yet but they should be up there too
OzzyOzrock
they definitely are

tahm is fun but does very little besides use his ult sometimes lol
HazeL_old_1
The river king
Froslass
Galio picked on LCS, possibly coming strong to the poke meta
Vladimir nerfed on pbe

Truly a glorious day
Witch Mercy
Vlad nerfs?!?!?!
NOOO...
BrokenArrow
They're pretty fair nerfs though, as a Vlad player I am okay with them.
Renevant
These lux changes have made her so good. The instant shield is ridiculous and you can't miss your poke in lane now. She's still got the issue with eating up mana with long cds, but I'd say the pros way out the cons at this point.
Justykanna

Renevant wrote:

These lux changes have made her so good. The instant shield is ridiculous and you can't miss your poke in lane now. She's still got the issue with eating up mana with long cds, but I'd say the pros way out the cons at this point.
Huge fan of the Lucent Singularity change, even though I don't use Lux a whole lot. Makes it so much easier to use.
Stefan

okay
Renevant
It's nice to know you can still do that even with her nerfed range.

Although you can probably build anything with Annie and kill people early on.
OzzyOzrock
I like how apparently there are still people that have done better as AD Annie, seeing no S+.
Hika
I am so scared to touch this game after so long.

new shit I should really be worried about?
EneT
Spooky skeletons; once every 10 mins spooky skeletons spawn from the cracks around Baron pit and if you get caught they reduce your current health to half and apply a 70% slow. It's really bad when you're laning and you just get caught by a spooky skeleton; it just completely changes the lane around and can lead you to losing against the lane opponent and giving away a kill.
Froslass

EneT wrote:

Spooky skeletons; once every 10 mins spooky skeletons spawn from the cracks around Baron pit and if you get caught they reduce your current health to half and apply a 70% slow. It's really bad when you're laning and you just get caught by a spooky skeleton; it just completely changes the lane around and can lead you to losing against the lane opponent and giving away a kill.
Spooky Skeleton as the new champ confirmed??? rito plz
EneT
No, Hika asked if there's anything new that she should be scared of so I'm answering her. It's one of the new features that was introduced at the end of season 4. They disguise themselves as this little critter at first but once in a blue moon with a percentage chance of 0.05% per game, they show their true appearance as spooky skeletons much too spooky to be displayed in google images.


They chase you around and once they catch you, a circle appears below you like this. Everyone caught in the circle gets the debuff called the skeleton curse, applying the reduction in life and the slow. The tooltip if you hover over the debuff says, "There's a spooky skeleton inside of you!!!". Game-turning new feature that has really spiced the game up and made it much more fast-paced and action-packed. Just look out for this Hika.
Dainesl
Also note that if your current health is below half you just outright die, really emphasises the pressure of these guys when in lane :P
Hika
im scared of skeletons omfg thx enet!!!!!!
Aurani
Diamond/Master today is way different than it was in the second season... back then, Diamonds played around the same (mechanically) as low Diamonds or even Plat today.... I realized that I no longer belong there, which is sad...
I wish I could bring back the time when people were still learning the game and played it for fun.
Froslass

Aurani wrote:

I wish I could bring back the time when people were still learning the game and played it for fun.
offtopic, but I can say the same for osu! :p
Aoriki
With all the new stuff they added -This is what I get for not playing since Rapid Fire ended.- everything is still new to me. New grade system too, wdf? What else am I missing?
EneT
^ Just read everything I posted about the spooky skeletons; that's enough to keep you up to date.
Kyonko Hizara
I started playing about a month and a half ago thinking it would be something I could play casually, but then for the past 2 weeks I've been finding myself playing for around 5+ hours a day. Around November last year I started getting interested in it (actually I had first heard about it in the beginning of 2011 and didn't care about it for a long time), but wouldn't play for the fear that I would already be too far behind from everyone else to ever get in. When I became interested I did research a decent amount into it so I wasn't going in completely retarded.

Even playing games with people that aren't ranked or max level some of the matches I've been in my teams have been so cutthroat.
Witch Mercy

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

Even playing games with people that aren't ranked or max level some of the matches I've been in my teams have been so cutthroat.

Sad, but true.
I've been playing on a smurf the past few months with my friends that are newer to league and to see the toxicity being so high among newer players just makes me cringe.
Kyonko Hizara

Graciee wrote:

Sad, but true.
I've been playing on a smurf the past few months with my friends that are newer to league and to see the toxicity being so high among newer players just makes me cringe.
I had heard about it being highly toxic in competitive play (mostly bronze, silver, and gold) but how bad it was in the first month I played was pretty bad. Even in the Co-op vs. AI games, if you aren't good and die to bots or don't know who goes what lane then you just get ripped the fuck apart.

In a match I had yesterday, I was playing Diana jg and bot lane, from the very beginning, kept asking me to camp their lane because they didn't want to be against Sona and Ashe. Playing Diana, and especially me not being amazingly good, I kept saying I was not gonna do a level 2-3 gank for them. Given the team I was on still won, but even into late game the adc and supp would not shut up about me going and ganking for them, or would get pissed off if I didn't want to throw myself into an obviously bad situation.

I got stuck being an adc Poppy because the adc wanted to go top and then they reported me for not cooperating. If it wasn't for the mute button than someone would have prolly been dead.
Stefan
Why would you ever listen to the rant of people in Co-op games? As long you don't act like a douche such as insult back nothing is going to happen. Mute them in the first minute and enjoy the game.
OzzyOzrock
speaking of co-op games once someone called /ff and we all hit yes like the memers we were

all randoms, no pre-mades

5 yes votes at the same time

worth
Kouya-
making the enemy team rage and flame at each other is the key to winning a game quickly .
Aurani
Just point out how many mistakes top did after he feeds you 4 kills and the enemy team will rage at him 450% of the time.
Kyonko Hizara

Kouya- wrote:

making the enemy team rage and flame at each other is the key to winning a game quickly .
Do that and suck 4 dicks at once for double the win chance!
roufou
bonus points if you act like a girl to make your team think you are one, and make them want to impress you
Feast
Or you can just pick Shyvana jungle and enjoy the free win
Kyonko Hizara

Ninth IX wrote:

Or you can just pick Shyvana jungle and enjoy the free win
The match was an hour but still won
Aurani
Shyvana is overrated as fuck.
EneT
Not really, with Sated Devourer all her E auto attacks do 5% maximum health damage and Q does 10%. Sated Devourer, BOTRK and Wits End. That's 140% AS total; Sated Devourer does 120 magic on-hit, Blade does 16% current health on-hit and Wits end does 84 Magic on-hit then you have the percentage damage with her E auto Attacks.. No other Sated Devourer jungler can beat her.
Feast
She also has one of the best jungle clear in the game & can counter jungle very well so devourer is easily stacked
Aurani
She still brings nigh-zero hard cc to the team, so yeah, would be great jungling with her whilst having similar non-cc champs on top/mid.

Damage is not nearly everything, even more so the higher you climb.
EneT
Neither does Nidalee but she was one of, if not the best jungler in a previous patch.
Damage is only one factor that makes Shyv OP right now. Her main Role is tanking and she does it well while dealing massive damage. Not to mention that it's so hard to build against her because her damage is so balanced between magic and physical.
EneT
Oh and also you have to remember that Shyv Q is basically 2 Auto Attacks put into one so 1 Shyv Q will deal 408 magic damage; with around 145 AD it will deal 290 physical damage, 10% Maximum health and 32% Current health. Is 32% Current health damage not OP enough for you?
Aurani
Nida relies HEAVILY on stemrolling opponents, and once she goes ahead, she's unstoppable, however, when behind, she's comparable to cow feces, as she can neither tank, nor deal damage at that point AND has absolutely no cc what-so-ever.

Shyv has less capability at stemrolling, but balances it by being both tanky AND dealing massive damage with the devourer, so those two aren't comparable across the board.

You see, just because you can get ahead easier with her and eat people away whilst still being off-tank, doesn't mean you're unbeatable. She's still incredibly easy to kite and a lack of low-cd gapclosers means that getting locked down equals instant death.

I'm most definitely sure that there will be better junglers as the patches change, and those will certainly not rely on the sheer stupidity of the enemy to win.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

I'm most definitely sure that there will be better junglers as the patches change, and those will certainly not rely on the sheer stupidity of the enemy to win.
We're talking about this patch though. The FOTM changes as the patches change.
Aurani
My point was that she's overrated because people think that just because she's above average now compared to when she was just shit, that she's an instant win and freelo.
Yes, she is way better at clearing and generally being annoying to play against (basically what Nunu used to be), but far from OP as all the fanboys claim her to be.

Damnit now I feel like playing, but I'm not going to be home for the next 2 months..
Justykanna
I'm honestly not a huge fan of Shyvana either because if she's jungling, her clear speeds are great, yeah, but when she comes to a lane, she has almost no CC - which is the part of being a jungler that I feel would be super useful when coming to a lane. Even Nunu can chuck a snowball at you at the slow's pretty significant.
But what do I know, I'm sure most others here are a higher rank than I.
Kyonko Hizara

Justykanna wrote:

I'm honestly not a huge fan of Shyvana either because if she's jungling, her clear speeds are great, yeah, but when she comes to a lane, she has almost no CC - which is the part of being a jungler that I feel would be super useful when coming to a lane. Even Nunu can chuck a snowball at you at the slow's pretty significant.
But what do I know, I'm sure most others here are a higher rank than I.
If the other jg has good CC then if you're playing Shyv you can get fucked so easily. Even with good clear and if Shyv can stay ahead she still can get caught out in larger team fights. Playing her jg I noticed in fights 3v3 or smaller or if the ally team has more players at the area then she can get out decent damage, but even so I feel like it can be odd to get in the fight unless you throw out dragon form.
Falling behind with her too can also get pretty bad. I mean, that's so with anyone, but as her I found myself falling even slightly behind late game was putting me in a much worse position than with some other jg's.

I'm sure someone with more experience than I tho wouldn't have any of these problems ;~;
Froslass
something I don't like about shyvana jg is that her ult never seems to help the gank and ends up saving the other team >_>
Kyonko Hizara
>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Froslass
I'm thinking about creating an account on NA for fun, but not sure if I'll be able to handle the 200+ ping
DahplA

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Sounds like every one of my games.

"All you had to do was not die". And the guy was playing Tryndamere.
-SayaKai
>my teammate Darius always excited for dr
>my Ashe's ss is always dodge
>ggwp win
EneT

-SayaKai wrote:

>my teammate Darius always excited for dr
>my Ashe's ss is always dodge
>ggwp win
I didn't even understand anything you just said.
Renevant

Blue Dragon wrote:

I'm thinking about creating an account on NA for fun, but not sure if I'll be able to handle the 200+ ping
\o/

Haven't been able to play support much because of the new champ. It's kinda irritating in ranked.
Kyonko Hizara

DahplA wrote:

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Sounds like every one of my games.

"All you had to do was not die". And the guy was playing Tryndamere.
It's when they don't even try and then complain that they are doing shit all because jg won't gank or mid won't wander.

Better to go out dying and trying than dying and being a little bitch about it.
Renevant
I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
Trip

Renevant wrote:

I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
Personally I don't think her new R suits her gameplay or her fighting style as it forces her to fight in one place after the zone is activated and when has a grand duelist ever healed them and their team?!

Is she transplanting organs from her enemies to her teammates? Who knows...with this in mind all I can think of is a Nurse Fiora skin
OzzyOzrock
Yeah the heal makes no sense if she's a dueler lmao
Kyonko Hizara

Renevant wrote:

I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
So they take an already annoying champ and make her more op
Aurani
I'm sad to see her change, since I remember falling in love with her when I just began playing - more vividly than I can the other champs.

I used to think that 6300 IP was insanely high, so I grinded it with Pantheon bot... ulting people recalling below the tower and stuff. Her and Cait were my most captivating champs - probably because I used to watch my cousin wreck high-elo ranked with them in a few matches, back when I was an utter nab.
Boy oh boy, those nostalgic moments...

At least her rework has been a proper one, and I can properly bury the memories of my early days with her.
Rukario
Witch Mercy
Them teemo buffs op
Renevant
Honestly, it's not that bad. His trap duration is only 5 minutes now. He'll be much more annoying in lane with the stealth and ranged shroom-placing, but he won't have much of an effect teamfight wise or late game. All they did was make is laning phase better and maybe his split pushing. If a teemo user still doesn't know how to place mushrooms or use them correctly, then it's definitely a nerf to him.
EneT
Ok, I just came back on LoL after coming back from abroad and the new overlay is so weird to get used to. I've lost several trades and resulted in lost games because I just forget where everything is, don't even notice that I lvl'ed up etc.
OzzyOzrock
They're gonna change a ton of shit but apparently it's gonna be 2 weeks of suffering
Kyonko Hizara
I'm not too fond of the mini map being changed to be in the upper right because that reminds me of when I played Smite and I found it hard to pay attention to the map in that sort of placement.
PyaKura
China just had the UI remake here and oh my god it's beautiful, but that's about it. It takes fucking forever for me to check my CDs, especially items' actives and summoners'. Everything is too cramped at the bottom of the screen and the rest feels insanely empty.
EneT
In case you didn't know, along with the UI changes you can now see the cooldowns of your entire team's summoner spells and everyone gets the dragon timer regardless of whether you had vision on it or not when it was taken.
Kyonko Hizara
I still feel like the dragon and baron timers going off regardless of vision seems a bit cheap. I guess that gives you more wards to put other places then.
Feast
New UI is just about getting used to it & I don't like the Dragon/Baron timers when you have no vision but that's just me I guess.
OzzyOzrock
well, let's face it, we already knew they got dragon because of the icon, and we already they got baron because of the buff.

though it definitely sucks that it'll be harder to sneak it in the seconds where they mistime the respawn
Stefan
That's actually a cool change to Teemo, still finding him not that good as champion in general.


And that new Fizz skin..... Aye, it's time for some fish sticks.
Feast

OzzyOzrock wrote:

well, let's face it, we already knew they got dragon because of the icon, and we already they got baron because of the buff.

though it definitely sucks that it'll be harder to sneak it in the seconds where they mistime the respawn
I agree on the fact that it won't matter much for the Dragon but I think it's kinda big for Baron, I saw a post on reddit few days ago showing Innox (midlaner for NME) going to put a ward on Baron but it was already done & he ended up being caught & died for that. Just for that kind of things I think it's pretty bad, but well I agree that's not a huge gamebreaking change & I can deal with it (not like I have the choice tho)
Nofool
so i just played an aram 8-) (4 quadra 1 penta...)

-SayaKai
That Black Market Brawlers, that made me crazy.
PyaKura
I don't really mind the Dragon/Baron timers being shown to both team regardless of vision, however I'm not sure what Riot was thinking by doing so. All I can see is even more Dragon/Baron dance and teamfights in general.
-SayaKai

PyaKura wrote:

I don't really mind the Dragon/Baron timers being shown to both team regardless of vision, however I'm not sure what Riot was thinking by doing so. All I can see is even more Dragon/Baron dance and teamfights in general.
True, also the BR Steal too.

Anyway, pray for gangplank. Why ;w;
EneT
Not sure about the baron but the reasoning behind showing dragon timer is because regardless of whether you have vision on it or not, both teams can hear the death of dragon anyways and can time the next dragon from that. So Riot thought they might aswell show timers since it's already a big giveaway. Showing dragon timers only really affect low elo anyways.
Witch Mercy
this new mode is literally cancer
only playing for icon zzz
OzzyOzrock
but the cloning item is amazing ;w;
Kyonko Hizara
I had some extra RP left over so I decided to buy a mystery skin and it gave me Mistletoe LeBlanc. Too bad I am too much of a pussy to use her.
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