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EneT

-SayaKai wrote:

In Champ selection, why alwayis auto-locked lmao
I don't even understand what you're saying.
Dainesl


It's funny when someone fails to get the point I'm making.

I swear I could just fit all people like this into a box called Plat 5, chances are I would be 90% right especially since people like this are so common
EneT
Holy shit I just had a 1 hour 15 min long League game. My team fed hard and the enemy team ended up with 3 barons and 3 of our inhibs down. Even still, when teamfights came around, I'd just wreck house with Vayne and they would lose every single one. There were about 4 - 5 teamfights in which they attempted to end the game with all of our inhibs down; we won all of them but in the end we couldn't really advance to their base with so many minions threatening ours. So when the time came when we decided to actually make an attempt to go to their base, poor decision-making led to me dying. With me dead they were free to end the game. Fuck me, I hate losing to shit people; those guys were complete Platinum level shit.
Katze
Help is needed! Tiny wall of text in here
Hello guys, I'm a support main and I need your help!
I find myself playing top or jungle in 70% of my ranked games because the support role is getting more and more popular (at least one or two people prefer support in my team when I q up). When I got level 30, I started to play ranked immediately - my "main role" was top at that time (I started playing in Season 3, around Lunar Revel, when Lissandra/Aatrox were released) - I spammed Irelia, Gangplank and Darius because those were my most loved Champions and Gangplank still holds that title but I was forced to fill most of the time so I fell in love with support. Now, I'm struggling with match-ups and little knowledge about what damage certain champions are dealing. For example if I play mid, Ahri or Karma are my to-go champs. I know what damage I can deal at a certain point of the game - which is not the case in top. Now I'm asking: what are some easy to pick up champs you guys can recommend? Whenever I'm forced to play top now I play Irelia, at rare occasions Wukong, Lulu or Gangplank because those are the ones I'm comfortable with. When it comes to jungling my favorite is Nautilus whom I picked up when I started playing, Sejuani - always banned or Vi who is a really safe pick most of the time. I can also tell you my Division if that helps - I'm stuck in Gold 5 since I got promoted from Silver 1 - mainly because of the reason above haha - so I hope you can help a fellow League Player (I think this is the second time I'm asking for advice for top because of the meta shifts haha)
Dainesl
Irelia makes you have to manage your stun and all that, so I would've thought she was mechanically moderately difficult.

Riven on the other hand, oh boy. Mobility up the ass? Check. A delete button at Level 6? Check. Hell, if you get slightly fed as Riven your shield makes you tanky as hell, and did I mention her ability to delete anyone?

Ryze has that targeted root which kinda makes him extremely annoying to deal with, but they nerfed his passive really hard in terms of duration and you need to max your Q in order to get it even close to what it was before. His early game is better, but late-game he's been slightly nerfed overall.

Vladimir is a pretty safe pick as you have practically infinite sustain in lane if you don't get too harassed and late-game he becomes extremely hard to deal with if he's fed, since he has high HP and high damage output.

Cho'gath is another champ with high sustain but if you spam your Q too much then rip you because you run out of mana so quickly, I swear. However you do need to be good at csing in order for this to work. Also, I don't know if he's played top that much any more, I usually see him mid now.

Other top laners such as Darius and Sion may be quite safe picks for you if you think that you need some safety, and Garen is easy to play from what I remember, like, really easy. Your mileage may vary, of course, but there are quite a lot of viable top laners.
Navizel
Maokai is pretty fun to play in top lane. All you have to do is farm pre-6 and get your core items.
You need to know animation cancel when it comes to Riven.
It can be hard to play Vladimir in early game cause he has a hard time farming under turret.
Irelia is also fun to play but I think she does nothing when behind.
Rumble is also one of the champions I play top. It's kind of tricky to play him but once you get used to him, it's pretty fun. You need to know how to cs properly while maintaining your heat. Though once you overheat, your csing can be pretty easy, downside is you can't use your abilities. His core items are pretty cheap too you can achieve your powerspike easily. You can delete mispositioned carries with your Flamespitter and Harpoons easy. I think his ult requires practice. Auto-cast isn't recommended for his ult since it's hard. His ult can be devastating when enemy team are grouped.
Justykanna
Looking for some recommendations at top lane as well and some per gameplay.

I played against my higher-ranked friend who said I play obsessively passive - which is true. I don't like being risky, if I'm getting a kill, I don't want it to be at the risk of getting instantly killed shortly there after. However, he also mentioned that I shouldn't be playing champions that are suppose to be aggressive. (ie: My favourite champion in Gangplank).

Any recommendations on passive played champions, preferred melee? My champions for the past year or two have been Gangplank, Garen, Wukong and Malphite.
Nasus was one of his recommendations.
EneT
To be honest, as a top laner you're not going to improve in rank by staying passive, as top lane is an innately aggressive lane due to many of the champs being melee.

Justykanna wrote:

I don't like being risky, if I'm getting a kill, I don't want it to be at the risk of getting instantly killed shortly there after.
This applies for everyone and every lane; trading a 1 for 1 kill against the enemy top laner isn't worth it as you both sacrifice gold, exp and summoners. Although you do net a kill, you are put behind the rest of the enemy team and that is what is important. Your goal is not to best your enemy laner, it is to scale up against the enemy team.

Passive champs in top lane would mostly include tank champs like Maokai and Sion but even still, as I have mentioned above, you need to be somewhat aggressive and learn how to trade against the opponent. You could go for Nasus but playing Nasus extensively can make you fall into bad top lane habits. Nasus is the epitome of passive as you can't trade at all in the early game but can just go full retard in the late-game due to having a million stacks. Playing Nasus may just make you worse at top lane because this is not how top lane should essentially meant to be played(In a high rank perspective). You are meant to be aggressive, you are meant to engage, you are the brute force of the team. In general, if you want to improve top lane just learn to trade and learn when to back off; all you need to do is pressure the enemy top laner but also to not die. Pressuring them can force them to waste TP to get back into lane and that gives you TP advantage, just be wary of their attack patterns and keep track of where the enemy jungler is. Back away if you feel any danger and use your TP advantage to gain objectives.
Justykanna

EneT wrote:

To be honest, as a top laner you're not going to improve in rank by staying passive, as top lane is an innately aggressive lane due to many of the champs being melee.

Justykanna wrote:

I don't like being risky, if I'm getting a kill, I don't want it to be at the risk of getting instantly killed shortly there after.
This applies for everyone and every lane; trading a 1 for 1 kill against the enemy top laner isn't worth it as you both sacrifice gold, exp and summoners. Although you do net a kill, you are put behind the rest of the enemy team and that is what is important. Your goal is not to best your enemy laner, it is to scale up against the enemy team.

Passive champs in top lane would mostly include tank champs like Maokai and Sion but even still, as I have mentioned above, you need to be somewhat aggressive and learn how to trade against the opponent. You could go for Nasus but playing Nasus extensively can make you fall into bad top lane habits. Nasus is the epitome of passive as you can't trade at all in the early game but can just go full retard in the late-game due to having a million stacks. Playing Nasus may just make you worse at top lane because this is not how top lane should essentially meant to be played(In a high rank perspective). You are meant to be aggressive, you are meant to engage, you are the brute force of the team. In general, if you want to improve top lane just learn to trade and learn when to back off; all you need to do is pressure the enemy top laner but also to not die. Pressuring them can force them to waste TP to get back into lane and that gives you TP advantage, just be wary of their attack patterns and keep track of where the enemy jungler is. Back away if you feel any danger and use your TP advantage to gain objectives.
Lol, I don't play passive because I want to. I just dunno how to play aggressive at all. And people saying "Just learn" doesn't help. I honestly dunno how I'm Silver with so many flaws in my game in a lane that apparently doesn't suit me at all. (Which is funny to me)
"Well if no one is mia and the jungler is in a lane, then obviously you can push further". Well duh, the jungler's mia for large portions at a time. By theory, that should mean never push the lane or force or engage because they're almost always missing. You can't ward everything all the time.

Anyways.

How do you trade effectively then? I find every time I try to engage, I end up losing a trade, which further makes me want to play more passively - because I'm losing trades. People say to wait for enemy CDs but I wait for that and instead of finding an engage, the enemy laner just backs off and I can't do anything to force them to fight me. I've heard the compare the items part too and I'd lose trades with the same items. Drives me nuts because I dunno when a good time to go in is.

I get that people want me to play aggressive but they're asking me to 100% change from one extreme end (of being passive) to the other. That's not fixable overnight for a low-ranking player (who should probably be in low-Bronze).

People make fixes sound simple. I dunno how.
EneT
Ok, I might not be able to tell you everything since it heavily depends on the matchup but I can tell you a few things to improve your laning.

Level 1 and the first wave of minions are a very important part of the game for both top laners and bot laners. This is the point at which the dominant laner can be decided. At level 1 you want to push the lane as fast as possible to get level 2 first (This is why Renekton used to be such a good, dominant lane opponent). By getting level 2 first you can get the jump on the enemy and win a big trade (blow potions/flash or maybe even get a kill depending on the matchup).

Now onto trading. Trading is best done when your opponent is going in for a CS. This puts them into a decision; do they trade with you or do they go for the CS and lose the trade? Either way you're the dominant one in this situation calling the shots; just don't go all in, an auto attack added with a skill is enough.
Considering you mained champs like Gangplank and Malphite; those champs are not really great at trading compared to top meta champs like Gnar, hecarim, Irelia and Ryze. Gangplank for example cannot go full melee against those guys as they all have consistent forms of damage. So for Gangplank you need to focus on just shooting them whenever they get close for a CS and then back off; you can go all in once they get low.

Other than that I can't really say much since the majority of trading depends on the matchup. If you were to give me a matchup I could go more into detail; even better if you give me a matchup that includes a champ that I actually actively use such as Irelia or Rumble.
Neku Okazaki
Justykanna

EneT wrote:

Ok, I might not be able to tell you everything since it heavily depends on the matchup but I can tell you a few things to improve your laning.

Level 1 and the first wave of minions are a very important part of the game for both top laners and bot laners. This is the point at which the dominant laner can be decided. At level 1 you want to push the lane as fast as possible to get level 2 first (This is why Renekton used to be such a good, dominant lane opponent). By getting level 2 first you can get the jump on the enemy and win a big trade (blow potions/flash or maybe even get a kill depending on the matchup).

Now onto trading. Trading is best done when your opponent is going in for a CS. This puts them into a decision; do they trade with you or do they go for the CS and lose the trade? Either way you're the dominant one in this situation calling the shots; just don't go all in, an auto attack added with a skill is enough.
Considering you mained champs like Gangplank and Malphite; those champs are not really great at trading compared to top meta champs like Gnar, hecarim, Irelia and Ryze. Gangplank for example cannot go full melee against those guys as they all have consistent forms of damage. So for Gangplank you need to focus on just shooting them whenever they get close for a CS and then back off; you can go all in once they get low.

Other than that I can't really say much since the majority of trading depends on the matchup. If you were to give me a matchup I could go more into detail; even better if you give me a matchup that includes a champ that I actually actively use such as Irelia or Rumble.
Yeah a buddy of mine used to say to just auto attack them when they go for a CS but the problems I have with this was 1: This requires reflexes that I just don't have and 2: He uses all ranged champions where I use all melee - which is something I didn't realize for the longest time so I'd end up autoing them when they go for a CS and I'd end up taking more damage from the trade.

I'm well known between my friends for not using meta picks, lol. I used to be a little more aggressive on the Q poking on Gangplank, but I found I went out of mana a lot. I guess I need to figure out whose good at trading and who isn't because someone telling me that Gangplank and Malphite aren't good at trading is news to me.

Thanks for your help EneT!
EneT

Justykanna wrote:

Yeah a buddy of mine used to say to just auto attack them when they go for a CS but the problems I have with this was 1: This requires reflexes that I just don't have and 2: He uses all ranged champions where I use all melee - which is something I didn't realize for the longest time so I'd end up autoing them when they go for a CS and I'd end up taking more damage from the trade.

I'm well known between my friends for not using meta picks, lol. I used to be a little more aggressive on the Q poking on Gangplank, but I found I went out of mana a lot. I guess I need to figure out whose good at trading and who isn't because someone telling me that Gangplank and Malphite aren't good at trading is news to me.

Thanks for your help EneT!
No Problem, glad to help you :D

If your lane opponent is playing someone ranged and you're playing someone like Malph, the best thing to do is to let them push and farm under your tower. That means you're going to have to learn how to farm under tower. With Malph, it takes him 1-2 auto attacks + 2 turret shots to kill a melee minion since he lacks AD and for a caster minion it's the same except it's only 1 turret shot. Keep that in mind and don't try getting CS if you know that the opponent will punish you for it. If you were playing a champ like Riven or Irelia you could actually go in for trades since they do considerable amounts of damage and have a lot more all-in potential than ranged champs but a champ like malph cannot hope to achieve the same success.

My final recommendation to you is to play Maokai. Not only is he tanky but he is also decent at trading due to his W rooting, doing percentage health damage and his Q doing a mini knock-up. It is also easy to gank a Maokai lane due to the same reasons and mid-game you can even 1v1 the enemy adc then turn to a complete tank in late-game.
Justykanna

EneT wrote:

No Problem, glad to help you :D

If your lane opponent is playing someone ranged and you're playing someone like Malph, the best thing to do is to let them push and farm under your tower. That means you're going to have to learn how to farm under tower. With Malph, it takes him 1-2 auto attacks + 2 turret shots to kill a melee minion since he lacks AD and for a caster minion it's the same except it's only 1 turret shot. Keep that in mind and don't try getting CS if you know that the opponent will punish you for it. If you were playing a champ like Riven or Irelia you could actually go in for trades since they do considerable amounts of damage and have a lot more all-in potential than ranged champs but a champ like malph cannot hope to achieve the same success.

My final recommendation to you is to play Maokai. Not only is he tanky but he is also decent at trading due to his W rooting, doing percentage health damage and his Q doing a mini knock-up. It is also easy to gank a Maokai lane due to the same reasons and mid-game you can even 1v1 the enemy adc then turn to a complete tank in late-game.
Yup, I know it's two turret shots for a melee minion and one for the caster. My only problem is that even if one turret shot, the caster minion still has enough health left that I can't just auto attack him with most of my champions (Gangplank, Garen, Malpihte). At least with Malphite, his W's mana cost is small. =)

He's been my jungler for the better part of two seasons now (Seasons 3 and 4 and when I'm forced into jungle this season) so it's strange to all of a sudden hear he's a top laner (same when I heard Wukong and Malphite were a junglers after using them in the top lane... people need to make up their bloody minds with my laners...). So I might need to experiment with Maokai if top lane's something that's going to happen with me. xD
EneT

Justykanna wrote:

Yup, I know it's two turret shots for a melee minion and one for the caster. My only problem is that even if one turret shot, the caster minion still has enough health left that I can't just auto attack him with most of my champions (Gangplank, Garen, Malpihte). At least with Malphite, his W's mana cost is small. =)

He's been my jungler for the better part of two seasons now (Seasons 3 and 4 and when I'm forced into jungle this season) so it's strange to all of a sudden hear he's a top laner (same when I heard Wukong and Malphite were a junglers after using them in the top lane... people need to make up their bloody minds with my laners...). So I might need to experiment with Maokai if top lane's something that's going to happen with me. xD
That's why you need to Auto attack before the turret hits the minion and then auto attack again after the turret hits it. This applies for all laners that can't one hit minions after turret hits.

The main reason for Maokai converting into a top laner is the change to his ult last season. His Ult follows him instead of staying in one place and this allowed him to be a complete tank.
Justykanna

EneT wrote:

That's why you need to Auto attack before the turret hits the minion and then auto attack again after the turret hits it. This applies for all laners that can't one hit minions after turret hits.

The main reason for Maokai converting into a top laner is the change to his ult last season. His Ult follows him instead of staying in one place and this allowed him to be a complete tank.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I loved the R change to for Maokai. But he's still more comfortable in the jungle for me than top lane because that's where I've used him for so long.
Aurani
Is there a way for someone to get into the same game with you (basically stalk you with second-precision) based on your username only? I mean, there are sites that tell you when you're already in-game, but not one for literally pressing the button at the same time as your stalkee. The guy who did it must be from this forum, as he knows about my vacation in France, knows I'm from Serbia and has some weird fetish regarding my British accent.

He knows too much to be a random, and he isn't on my friends list.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

Is there a way for someone to get into the same game with you (basically stalk you with second-precision) based on your username only? I mean, there are sites that tell you when you're already in-game, but not one for literally pressing the button at the same time as your stalkee. The guy who did it must be from this forum, as he knows about my vacation in France, knows I'm from Serbia and has some weird fetish regarding my British accent.

He knows too much to be a random, and he isn't on my friends list.
Unless you're in Master or Challenger then no. Other than that you must have a major stalker that found a loophole to the system.
Renevant

Aurani wrote:

I mean, there are sites that tell you when you're already in-game
Only way i can think of that is possible would be doing this. If you enter a new game right after your last, then i suppose its possible.

That sounds a little creepy though.. Unfortunately, i dont think ignoring the person in game removes the chance you will be matched with them.
EneT
Anyways to those looking for freelo, go Ezreal mid with Smite and the jungler item, Rune Glaive before Ezreal gets nerfed next patch. I climbed my way back to Master league after getting decayed to Diamond doing this.
Renevant

EneT wrote:

Anyways to those looking for freelo, go Ezreal mid with Smite and the jungler item, Rune Glaive before Ezreal gets nerfed next patch.
Lmao, i saw the damage charts for that. It is ridiculous
EneT
Yeah they're nerfing Ezreal by making it so his Q doesn't proc Ludens.
Renevant

EneT wrote:

Yeah they're nerfing Ezreal by making it so his Q doesn't proc Ludens.
Only with the item though, right? I don't think Ezreal's Q usually procs Luden's.
Aurani

EneT wrote:

Anyways to those looking for freelo, go Ezreal mid with Smite and the jungler item, Rune Glaive before Ezreal gets nerfed next patch. I climbed my way back to Master league after getting decayed to Diamond doing this.
Oh right, I saw it on Scarra's stream.

OP as shit.
EneT

Renevant wrote:

Only with the item though, right? I don't think Ezreal's Q usually procs Luden's.
Yeah, the only reason it procs Luden's is because of the spellblade from Rune Glaive. The item essentially makes Ezreal have 0 faults to his kit. AP Ezreal's only downside is that he has no waveclear so he wastes all his mana clearing waves and he can't effectively poke because of this. But with Rune Glaive all of his faults are eliminated and you are left with a poke-heavy, damage-heavy, assassin-like mid-laner; the perfect mid lane champ. His W leaves opponents down to 40% hp and not only that, it hits mulitple enemies too; Q for poke, E for kiting and extra damage and his ult for clearing waves, sniping people and generally being a massive damage dealer.
Renevant
I see, he's probably just gonna get banned every game since people are aware now.
I wonder if they're gonna do a hotfix for this, especially since its been confirmed to be a bug.
Froslass
u shud stop playing velkoz mid!!! play with a good champ ffs!!!


Renevant
Im glad someone is still playing him. He was fun to play as a support. I was able to practice my geometry skilllls.
roufou
feels nice to be demoted when you go 14/5/8
Renevant
This was a fun game. I'm the lux.

Justykanna
The amount of excitement I get from seeing the Gangplank rework... =D ! Yayyyy!
Katze

Justykanna wrote:

The amount of excitement I get from seeing the Gangplank rework... =D ! Yayyyy!
I'm so happy! He turned out so great, I'm glad they didn't ruin him
HazeL_old_1
Now im HazeL Yee from PH server
Gold 2. Girl gamer.
Best pick: LUX, Yi, ashe, blitz, chogath, nasus, garen, leona... etc
Justykanna

Katze wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

The amount of excitement I get from seeing the Gangplank rework... =D ! Yayyyy!
I'm so happy! He turned out so great, I'm glad they didn't ruin him
As am I. He's been my main since Season 3. =)
PrinceArua

Justykanna wrote:

The amount of excitement I get from seeing the Gangplank rework... =D ! Yayyyy!
It's really great! The E will be such an interesting ability to see being utilized different by the players. And the ultimate upgrade-system is a cool concept as well. It's a shame that he got such a cool update and MF's model got slightly piffed and they added two minor tweaks to her Q and W... I just want her to be more viable. *sigh*
Aurani
They removed her Grievous Wounds and instead gave her a fucking slightly-buffed version of Vayne's shit. Her speed boost matters little when you actually activate that shit in a fight - it only truly shines when you're chasing down your prey. Thing is, by removing the GV that basically took a dump on every adc/suppor's attempt at healing, you're weakening her dueling potential, and giving her an ability to chase shit down instead, when you already got your ult for that. I mean, it's just an incredibly sloppy tweak and I want to congratulate the moron who had the idea to implement such a thing.

Remember, whatever your argument is, it's shit, because let's be honest here - she HAS to activate that W in a fight because that's essentially her steroid ability, and that shit has a rather high cooldown, so what happens when you beat your opponent in a fight? Chase him down with that W of yours that you activated a few seconds ago, that has a cooldown of 16 seconds? Oh yeah I'm sure it'll totally work out fine.

It'll only work out if both you and your enemy are level 18 and have only 2 items, as that might actually take you 16 secs to bring him low to be able to re-use the ability to chase him down.
EneT
Tfw you only just realised that the cd for Ezreal ult is reduced by 1 everytime you land Q even though he's been one of your main champs for the past 3 seasons.
BrokenArrow
Hey guys
Play Kayle jungle with the new Sated Devourer
Do it while it's not banned yet
It's broken

I haven't tried other Devourer junglers like Yi or Shyvana yet but they should be up there too
OzzyOzrock
they definitely are

tahm is fun but does very little besides use his ult sometimes lol
HazeL_old_1
The river king
Froslass
Galio picked on LCS, possibly coming strong to the poke meta
Vladimir nerfed on pbe

Truly a glorious day
Witch Mercy
Vlad nerfs?!?!?!
NOOO...
BrokenArrow
They're pretty fair nerfs though, as a Vlad player I am okay with them.
Renevant
These lux changes have made her so good. The instant shield is ridiculous and you can't miss your poke in lane now. She's still got the issue with eating up mana with long cds, but I'd say the pros way out the cons at this point.
Justykanna

Renevant wrote:

These lux changes have made her so good. The instant shield is ridiculous and you can't miss your poke in lane now. She's still got the issue with eating up mana with long cds, but I'd say the pros way out the cons at this point.
Huge fan of the Lucent Singularity change, even though I don't use Lux a whole lot. Makes it so much easier to use.
Stefan

okay
Renevant
It's nice to know you can still do that even with her nerfed range.

Although you can probably build anything with Annie and kill people early on.
OzzyOzrock
I like how apparently there are still people that have done better as AD Annie, seeing no S+.
Hika
I am so scared to touch this game after so long.

new shit I should really be worried about?
EneT
Spooky skeletons; once every 10 mins spooky skeletons spawn from the cracks around Baron pit and if you get caught they reduce your current health to half and apply a 70% slow. It's really bad when you're laning and you just get caught by a spooky skeleton; it just completely changes the lane around and can lead you to losing against the lane opponent and giving away a kill.
Froslass

EneT wrote:

Spooky skeletons; once every 10 mins spooky skeletons spawn from the cracks around Baron pit and if you get caught they reduce your current health to half and apply a 70% slow. It's really bad when you're laning and you just get caught by a spooky skeleton; it just completely changes the lane around and can lead you to losing against the lane opponent and giving away a kill.
Spooky Skeleton as the new champ confirmed??? rito plz
EneT
No, Hika asked if there's anything new that she should be scared of so I'm answering her. It's one of the new features that was introduced at the end of season 4. They disguise themselves as this little critter at first but once in a blue moon with a percentage chance of 0.05% per game, they show their true appearance as spooky skeletons much too spooky to be displayed in google images.


They chase you around and once they catch you, a circle appears below you like this. Everyone caught in the circle gets the debuff called the skeleton curse, applying the reduction in life and the slow. The tooltip if you hover over the debuff says, "There's a spooky skeleton inside of you!!!". Game-turning new feature that has really spiced the game up and made it much more fast-paced and action-packed. Just look out for this Hika.
Dainesl
Also note that if your current health is below half you just outright die, really emphasises the pressure of these guys when in lane :P
Hika
im scared of skeletons omfg thx enet!!!!!!
Aurani
Diamond/Master today is way different than it was in the second season... back then, Diamonds played around the same (mechanically) as low Diamonds or even Plat today.... I realized that I no longer belong there, which is sad...
I wish I could bring back the time when people were still learning the game and played it for fun.
Froslass

Aurani wrote:

I wish I could bring back the time when people were still learning the game and played it for fun.
offtopic, but I can say the same for osu! :p
Aoriki
With all the new stuff they added -This is what I get for not playing since Rapid Fire ended.- everything is still new to me. New grade system too, wdf? What else am I missing?
EneT
^ Just read everything I posted about the spooky skeletons; that's enough to keep you up to date.
Kyonko Hizara
I started playing about a month and a half ago thinking it would be something I could play casually, but then for the past 2 weeks I've been finding myself playing for around 5+ hours a day. Around November last year I started getting interested in it (actually I had first heard about it in the beginning of 2011 and didn't care about it for a long time), but wouldn't play for the fear that I would already be too far behind from everyone else to ever get in. When I became interested I did research a decent amount into it so I wasn't going in completely retarded.

Even playing games with people that aren't ranked or max level some of the matches I've been in my teams have been so cutthroat.
Witch Mercy

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

Even playing games with people that aren't ranked or max level some of the matches I've been in my teams have been so cutthroat.

Sad, but true.
I've been playing on a smurf the past few months with my friends that are newer to league and to see the toxicity being so high among newer players just makes me cringe.
Kyonko Hizara

Graciee wrote:

Sad, but true.
I've been playing on a smurf the past few months with my friends that are newer to league and to see the toxicity being so high among newer players just makes me cringe.
I had heard about it being highly toxic in competitive play (mostly bronze, silver, and gold) but how bad it was in the first month I played was pretty bad. Even in the Co-op vs. AI games, if you aren't good and die to bots or don't know who goes what lane then you just get ripped the fuck apart.

In a match I had yesterday, I was playing Diana jg and bot lane, from the very beginning, kept asking me to camp their lane because they didn't want to be against Sona and Ashe. Playing Diana, and especially me not being amazingly good, I kept saying I was not gonna do a level 2-3 gank for them. Given the team I was on still won, but even into late game the adc and supp would not shut up about me going and ganking for them, or would get pissed off if I didn't want to throw myself into an obviously bad situation.

I got stuck being an adc Poppy because the adc wanted to go top and then they reported me for not cooperating. If it wasn't for the mute button than someone would have prolly been dead.
Stefan
Why would you ever listen to the rant of people in Co-op games? As long you don't act like a douche such as insult back nothing is going to happen. Mute them in the first minute and enjoy the game.
OzzyOzrock
speaking of co-op games once someone called /ff and we all hit yes like the memers we were

all randoms, no pre-mades

5 yes votes at the same time

worth
Kouya-
making the enemy team rage and flame at each other is the key to winning a game quickly .
Aurani
Just point out how many mistakes top did after he feeds you 4 kills and the enemy team will rage at him 450% of the time.
Kyonko Hizara

Kouya- wrote:

making the enemy team rage and flame at each other is the key to winning a game quickly .
Do that and suck 4 dicks at once for double the win chance!
roufou
bonus points if you act like a girl to make your team think you are one, and make them want to impress you
Feast
Or you can just pick Shyvana jungle and enjoy the free win
Kyonko Hizara

Ninth IX wrote:

Or you can just pick Shyvana jungle and enjoy the free win
The match was an hour but still won
Aurani
Shyvana is overrated as fuck.
EneT
Not really, with Sated Devourer all her E auto attacks do 5% maximum health damage and Q does 10%. Sated Devourer, BOTRK and Wits End. That's 140% AS total; Sated Devourer does 120 magic on-hit, Blade does 16% current health on-hit and Wits end does 84 Magic on-hit then you have the percentage damage with her E auto Attacks.. No other Sated Devourer jungler can beat her.
Feast
She also has one of the best jungle clear in the game & can counter jungle very well so devourer is easily stacked
Aurani
She still brings nigh-zero hard cc to the team, so yeah, would be great jungling with her whilst having similar non-cc champs on top/mid.

Damage is not nearly everything, even more so the higher you climb.
EneT
Neither does Nidalee but she was one of, if not the best jungler in a previous patch.
Damage is only one factor that makes Shyv OP right now. Her main Role is tanking and she does it well while dealing massive damage. Not to mention that it's so hard to build against her because her damage is so balanced between magic and physical.
EneT
Oh and also you have to remember that Shyv Q is basically 2 Auto Attacks put into one so 1 Shyv Q will deal 408 magic damage; with around 145 AD it will deal 290 physical damage, 10% Maximum health and 32% Current health. Is 32% Current health damage not OP enough for you?
Aurani
Nida relies HEAVILY on stemrolling opponents, and once she goes ahead, she's unstoppable, however, when behind, she's comparable to cow feces, as she can neither tank, nor deal damage at that point AND has absolutely no cc what-so-ever.

Shyv has less capability at stemrolling, but balances it by being both tanky AND dealing massive damage with the devourer, so those two aren't comparable across the board.

You see, just because you can get ahead easier with her and eat people away whilst still being off-tank, doesn't mean you're unbeatable. She's still incredibly easy to kite and a lack of low-cd gapclosers means that getting locked down equals instant death.

I'm most definitely sure that there will be better junglers as the patches change, and those will certainly not rely on the sheer stupidity of the enemy to win.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

I'm most definitely sure that there will be better junglers as the patches change, and those will certainly not rely on the sheer stupidity of the enemy to win.
We're talking about this patch though. The FOTM changes as the patches change.
Aurani
My point was that she's overrated because people think that just because she's above average now compared to when she was just shit, that she's an instant win and freelo.
Yes, she is way better at clearing and generally being annoying to play against (basically what Nunu used to be), but far from OP as all the fanboys claim her to be.

Damnit now I feel like playing, but I'm not going to be home for the next 2 months..
Justykanna
I'm honestly not a huge fan of Shyvana either because if she's jungling, her clear speeds are great, yeah, but when she comes to a lane, she has almost no CC - which is the part of being a jungler that I feel would be super useful when coming to a lane. Even Nunu can chuck a snowball at you at the slow's pretty significant.
But what do I know, I'm sure most others here are a higher rank than I.
Kyonko Hizara

Justykanna wrote:

I'm honestly not a huge fan of Shyvana either because if she's jungling, her clear speeds are great, yeah, but when she comes to a lane, she has almost no CC - which is the part of being a jungler that I feel would be super useful when coming to a lane. Even Nunu can chuck a snowball at you at the slow's pretty significant.
But what do I know, I'm sure most others here are a higher rank than I.
If the other jg has good CC then if you're playing Shyv you can get fucked so easily. Even with good clear and if Shyv can stay ahead she still can get caught out in larger team fights. Playing her jg I noticed in fights 3v3 or smaller or if the ally team has more players at the area then she can get out decent damage, but even so I feel like it can be odd to get in the fight unless you throw out dragon form.
Falling behind with her too can also get pretty bad. I mean, that's so with anyone, but as her I found myself falling even slightly behind late game was putting me in a much worse position than with some other jg's.

I'm sure someone with more experience than I tho wouldn't have any of these problems ;~;
Froslass
something I don't like about shyvana jg is that her ult never seems to help the gank and ends up saving the other team >_>
Kyonko Hizara
>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Froslass
I'm thinking about creating an account on NA for fun, but not sure if I'll be able to handle the 200+ ping
DahplA

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Sounds like every one of my games.

"All you had to do was not die". And the guy was playing Tryndamere.
-SayaKai
>my teammate Darius always excited for dr
>my Ashe's ss is always dodge
>ggwp win
EneT

-SayaKai wrote:

>my teammate Darius always excited for dr
>my Ashe's ss is always dodge
>ggwp win
I didn't even understand anything you just said.
Renevant

Blue Dragon wrote:

I'm thinking about creating an account on NA for fun, but not sure if I'll be able to handle the 200+ ping
\o/

Haven't been able to play support much because of the new champ. It's kinda irritating in ranked.
Kyonko Hizara

DahplA wrote:

Kyonko Hizara wrote:

>Whole team tells Teemo to keep distance from Riven
>Feeds Riven 10 kills
>Single-handed loses my team the game
Sounds like every one of my games.

"All you had to do was not die". And the guy was playing Tryndamere.
It's when they don't even try and then complain that they are doing shit all because jg won't gank or mid won't wander.

Better to go out dying and trying than dying and being a little bitch about it.
Renevant
I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
Trip

Renevant wrote:

I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
Personally I don't think her new R suits her gameplay or her fighting style as it forces her to fight in one place after the zone is activated and when has a grand duelist ever healed them and their team?!

Is she transplanting organs from her enemies to her teammates? Who knows...with this in mind all I can think of is a Nurse Fiora skin
OzzyOzrock
Yeah the heal makes no sense if she's a dueler lmao
Kyonko Hizara

Renevant wrote:

I like this new fiora. Seems rather difficult to play though.
So they take an already annoying champ and make her more op
Aurani
I'm sad to see her change, since I remember falling in love with her when I just began playing - more vividly than I can the other champs.

I used to think that 6300 IP was insanely high, so I grinded it with Pantheon bot... ulting people recalling below the tower and stuff. Her and Cait were my most captivating champs - probably because I used to watch my cousin wreck high-elo ranked with them in a few matches, back when I was an utter nab.
Boy oh boy, those nostalgic moments...

At least her rework has been a proper one, and I can properly bury the memories of my early days with her.
Rukario
Witch Mercy
Them teemo buffs op
Renevant
Honestly, it's not that bad. His trap duration is only 5 minutes now. He'll be much more annoying in lane with the stealth and ranged shroom-placing, but he won't have much of an effect teamfight wise or late game. All they did was make is laning phase better and maybe his split pushing. If a teemo user still doesn't know how to place mushrooms or use them correctly, then it's definitely a nerf to him.
EneT
Ok, I just came back on LoL after coming back from abroad and the new overlay is so weird to get used to. I've lost several trades and resulted in lost games because I just forget where everything is, don't even notice that I lvl'ed up etc.
OzzyOzrock
They're gonna change a ton of shit but apparently it's gonna be 2 weeks of suffering
Kyonko Hizara
I'm not too fond of the mini map being changed to be in the upper right because that reminds me of when I played Smite and I found it hard to pay attention to the map in that sort of placement.
PyaKura
China just had the UI remake here and oh my god it's beautiful, but that's about it. It takes fucking forever for me to check my CDs, especially items' actives and summoners'. Everything is too cramped at the bottom of the screen and the rest feels insanely empty.
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