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Navizel
Okay, let's go back to my original vote. Vote: Slaini
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)
hmm....Why don't you vote me?

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
How?
i never share them?
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
Ace Timing

Zexion wrote:

Also @Ace I'm not going to read a post ending with this ":^)" so please avoid meme-writing and get serious.
That post was me analyzing myself as Slaini asked Navizel what he read on me, no memes are even in that paragraph.
Navizel
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
That was the kind of thing I was waiting for, another hop on something really small as I stated before.

Vote: -[Jess]-
Navizel

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.
Navizel
You totally don't get it.
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.
Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.
sLaiNi
*your sentense
Navizel

Slaini wrote:

Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.
You're just looking guilty. Stop it. That's totally not what I was implying. Bolded is a funny line. hahahahaha

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Ace exactly?
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

Slaini wrote:

Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.
You're just looking guilty. Stop it. That's totally not what I was implying. Bolded is a funny line. hahahahaha

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Ace exactly?
Why not Navizel?
Navizel
hahahahhaahhahahahahaha omg this is a funny game xDDDD
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

That was the kind of thing I was waiting for, another hop on something really small as I stated before.

Vote: -[Jess]-
Nice twist bro

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Ace exactly?[/quote]

Why not Navizel?[/quote]

XD
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.5

[b][2]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[1] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 15.5 hours away from now.
Ace Timing

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.
That jab lol

sLaiNi wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Why not Ace exactly?
Why not Navizel?
I laughed here, you're embarrassing yourself lol.

Is this the start of the long awaited Slaini train?
sLaiNi
If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?
That situation would be called MyLo or Mislynch-and-Lose so yeah I guess.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?
That situation would be called MyLo or Mislynch-and-Lose so yeah I guess.
Ah thanks
Birdy
We're in MyLo if we're thinking pessimistically. We do have a potential jailkeeper (given that Navi's claim was honest) and 1-shot BP (if the matrix is in our favour).

If we were to think optimistically, let's just lynch the correct person today and none of the value will be lost.
Birdy
Also shit I'm feeling dizzy from night longboarding and movie marathon, I'll be back before the deadline though.
Navizel
LyLo actually. In MyLo, we can still no lynch. If we did that, scum will just kill someone at night and then that's game.
Navizel
3 town vs 2 mafia
no lynch d3
maf kills
2 town vs 2 mafia
mafia makes up half of the players
mafia wins, town gets endgamed
Birdy
Oh yeah, that makes sense. I keep forgetting the difference between those terms.
Zexion

Navizel wrote:

You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.
soft claiming huh
That's up to you to decide. Sounding familiar?

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
Just curious here, voting here for OMGUS reasons or there's actually something else I'm missing?

It would be pretty interesting if this was actually bussing...

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.
This is not directed towards me, and I do not intent to defend Slaini, but what do you mean "acting like me"? Your accusations aren't clear enough therefore misunderstanding is possible, (therefore you could end "twisting someone's words") maybe you could explain in detail what did he twist here so everyone can understand your actions?

Navizel wrote:

You totally don't get it.
Kinda my point.

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Also everyone:

We lynch scum: Nothing. (4 town, 1 scum). If we lynch town then: 2 town 1 scum, LyLo.
We lynch town: LyLo (3 town, 2 scum). If we lynch scum then: 2 town 1 scum, LyLo.

Both are asumming scum sucessfuly kill someone every night.
Navizel
Slaini was answering my questions with another question. Just like what you did before.

Slaini's
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Navizel?
too lazy to search Zexion's ISO for similar posts.

Redirecting as well
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them.
Those examples are not how you disprove a point.
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

Slaini was answering my questions with another question. Just like what you did before.

Slaini's
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Navizel?
too lazy to search Zexion's ISO for similar posts.

Redirecting as well
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them.
Those examples are not how you disprove a point.
Disproving is one thing, but the point has to be viable in some sort. If I (ignoring the fact of your claim) would accuse you of being scum together with Jess, how would you disprove it?

(Rather a learning question if you are so sure about my "Why not Nyquill" counterquestion being invalid)
Navizel
I don't understand what you're saying.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.6

[2]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[1] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 4.5 hours away from now.
Navizel
guyssss
Birdy
hey what's up
Birdy
I'm going to be surprised whatever Slaini flips. Guess we now have time only to hope and see.
Navizel
Just a reminder that someone needs to be at 3 votes for plurality lynch to activate this day.
Birdy
Shit. Should I?
Navizel
Unless you want to no lynch.
Birdy
I certainly do not. It's just bad that he's such a hazy target due to the, well, hazy and (especially formerly) newbieful posts.

Vote: Slaini
Ace Timing
Should I be saying "don't hammer guys" right about now?
Birdy
Considering there's pretty much no time left until twilight/night, sure.
Navizel
Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
Ace Timing

Navizel wrote:

Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
Yeah he said in the case of rEdo flipping scum, Nyquil/Sakura would be the likely scumpal.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.7

[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is -0.25 hours away from now.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Oops.

sLaiNi, Town Vanilla, has been lynched day two.

It is now Night two. Deadline is July 14th, 10:15PM CST (GMT-6). This is exactly 48 hours from now.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Shenanigans are afoot. Maybe. Kind of? Who knows?

Navizel, Town Jailkeeper, has been killed night two.

It is now Day Three. Deadline is July 19th, 11:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is slightly less than five days from now.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 3.1

[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Nyquill, Static Noise Bird, Zexion
With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

Deadline is July 19th at 11:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 120 hours away from now.
Navizel
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
-[Jess]-
._.
-[Jess]-
And I like it said with 7 alive in the vote count
Nyquill
these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
Zexion
Huh, Slaini's flip doesn't really come to surprise me. Hey people, not because you're new that means you're scum.

As you probably know, we're on LyLo right now which means if we mislynch is pretty much over for town. Please be careful with your votes.

I'm going to read a bit before posting anything else.
Zexion
Right, so Slaini got lynched because his newbie attitude and previous "scumslips", was that really enough for a reason to lynch him?

Here's my post-lynch anaylsis. My very first one!

Amianki wrote:

Vote Count 2.7

[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --

[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
So I'm willing to bet there's at least one scum on Slaini's wagon. After all, if that didn't happen we wouldn't be at LyLo. Tho Ace not voting makes me somewhat insecure of pinning scum in either SNB or Jess. Then again I haven't seen much input from Nyquill to make sure they are really town... Sakura didn't exactly gave me a strong town vibe. Also Navi's last post seem like this could be more important.

Navizel wrote:

Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
Because this too.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

I certainly do not. It's just bad that he's such a hazy target due to the, well, hazy and (especially formerly) newbieful posts.

Vote: Slaini

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.
SNB did hesitate on lynching Slaini. This makes me feel uneasy about her being scum, because I guess any scum player would have used the chance inmediatly to get a mislynch... SNB did end up voting Slaini, so maybe she wanted the approach to be as town as possible...?

But then again I was "conf-scum" to her, yet she ended up changing her vote just so we ended up lynching someone.

Now about Jess:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
This was actually an useful post I ignored. Going through Jess' ISO just show her doing small things here and there and just jumping into wagons. She was Slaini's #1 scumread (not saying this confirms anything) but as soon he accuses Jess:

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
This vote post disturbs me. Seems like Jess got really aggresive at this point because Slaini pointed her as scum. A desperate attempt of pinning the blame on him so she wouldn't get any votes?

Navizel wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
Well, Slaini wasn't scum... so if we take the newbie thing that would mean he was just scared of voting someone because what others could have said about the vote. At least that's what I felt on my first game.

rEdo wrote:

lmao I'm actually eating the rope

I want you to lynch somebody from {Drezi, sLaiNi, Zexion} tomorrow. Either works, to be honest. I already stated my logic on sLaiNi-Zexion, Drezi just sucks balls.
Also please note that this entire post is wrong. Reminder that being confirmed town doesn't make your reads 100% accuarate. (I'm taking the same approach on Slaini)

Nyquill wrote:

these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
Please do it a ASAP. We do need more stuff coming from you, since you were V/LA for almost all of D2.

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Sorry that my ideas are kinda messy right now, I have a reason to suspect everyone at this point. I would go for a SNB or Jess lynch at this point, but SNB actually gives me town vibes due to her hesitation in lynching Slaini... seems like a town attitude. (But it doesn't go very well with her words) I'm holding my vote until I see what you guys have to say about what I posted. Also please if I skipped something important point it out...
Zexion
Also Ace, why did you took the time to look into other mafia game and not this one?
Ace Timing

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
This post felt a little weird to me. Also how Jess told us to look at the QT from previous games when that seems like a bit of a waste.

I'm trying to think from the mafia point of view, and it seems like they want to get rid of all of the experienced players because they believe that with only newbs, it will be harder to find scum. I going to go ahead and take a gander at the makeup of the mafia. One experienced player and one newer player. This means that the schemes that the mafia comes up with will probably get more reckless after the more experienced player is lynched. The only experienced players left are Zexion, SNB, and Nyquill. Nyquill is who I'm primarily thinking of because he rarely contributes any thing, but always leaves posts that imply that he will.

Like here
these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
and here
I'm back and I took a glance at things because I'm a little tired to do things right now. Will post in the morning.
And he seems to not like revealing things evidenced here
There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads.
I won't vote on just this just yet, but just I'll leave it here so that people won't say I'm not paying attention or something.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

I'm trying to think from the mafia point of view, and it seems like they want to get rid of all of the experienced players because they believe that with only newbs, it will be harder to find scum. I going to go ahead and take a gander at the makeup of the mafia. One experienced player and one newer player. This means that the schemes that the mafia comes up with will probably get more reckless after the more experienced player is lynched. The only experienced players left are Zexion, SNB, and Nyquill. Nyquill is who I'm primarily thinking of because he rarely contributes any thing, but always leaves posts that imply that he will.
That's kinda obvious isn't it? I can gather from there that we could actually be dealing with newbie scum too, since I haven't seen any gambits and stuff some pro scum players would do.

Also I agree with you, we need more input from Nyquill... why is no one else caring about the game anyways?
Ace Timing
It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.
-[Jess]-

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.
So how?

-------------------------------------

Will post something more later

I am not awake
Birdy

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.
That's the worst part. There are currently still at least a dozen possible combinations and just like how we couldn't be sure with Slaini, I don't know what to believe or how to read anything any more.

I feel like I butchered the English language there. Sorry if that's somewhat weirdly written (it's 4:30am forgive me). Guess I'll/we'll wait for Nyquill and sit in silence.
Zexion

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.
That's the worst part. There are currently still at least a dozen possible combinations and just like how we couldn't be sure with Slaini, I don't know what to believe or how to read anything any more.

I feel like I butchered the English language there. Sorry if that's somewhat weirdly written (it's 4:30am forgive me). Guess I'll/we'll wait for Nyquill and sit in silence.
Why would you want for Nyquill instead of posting your own conclusions and stuff? That's not a reallly good approach considering our situation...

I think everyone here should post their reads and then we could actually do something.
Ace Timing
vote Nyquill
Birdy
Isn't that a bit rushed, Ace?

Also @Zexion I don't have reads or conclusions, I'm quite honestly lost like I stated in my previous post. You made some good points (about Jess) in your recent post but that's about it so far.
Birdy
We only need two votes for Nyquill lynch now, right. That means both of the scum may jump out of the bush any moment so you better take that vote off ASAP Ace.
Ace Timing
other than you and Zexion, Nyquill and Jess are the only ones left. No chance of jumping on this wagon.
Ace Timing
In fact, that could mean that SNB/Nyquill is the team we're looking at, because there's no way you could rationally as town say something like that.
Birdy
I'm just saying IF Zexion and Jess were the team, it'd be game over.
Ace Timing
I know that, I was just joking.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

vote Nyquill
This is rushed. We haven't even heard from Nyquill yet and you are voting him? Bad. Unvote ASAP.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Isn't that a bit rushed, Ace?

Also @Zexion I don't have reads or conclusions, I'm quite honestly lost like I stated in my previous post. You made some good points (about Jess) in your recent post but that's about it so far.
Then the only thing left to do its to discard your previous ideas, and begin too make your reads anew, don't you think? It's not really the time to give up.
Ace Timing
Besides, Zexion criticized my post earlier, so he's not going to just jump on the wagon now.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

I know that, I was just joking.
I don't get the joke.
Ace Timing
unvote
Ace Timing

Zexion wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

I know that, I was just joking.
I don't get the joke.
The joke was when I accused SNB of being scumpals with Nyquill.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

Zexion wrote:

I don't get the joke.
The joke was when I accused SNB of being scumpals with Nyquill.
Not to sound rude or anything, but LyLo isn't a really good moment to make non-serious posts...
Nyquill
If that was meant to be a vote fish, that looked really really tight. But by the above exchange, the chance the SNB and Zexion are scumbuddies are really low.

Okay I'm going to rewind a bit since I missed out on the discussion day 2.

Scumteam has to be people that COMPLETELY missed the entire turmoil between Drezi and rEdo, otherwise there would actually be no logical explanation for the Drezi kill.

I think at this point Jess takes the cake for the above category.

Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.

Zexion: solidify your claim if you weren't just fucking around day 2. This is important.
Nyquill

Ace Timing wrote:

There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads.
I won't vote on just this just yet, but just I'll leave it here so that people won't say I'm not paying attention or something.
Revealing all your reads day 1 means showing all your cards up front. It doesn't benefit scumhunting as much as actual actions do.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 3.1

[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Nyquill, Static Noise Bird, Zexion
With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

Deadline is July 19th at 11:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 94.5 hours away from now.
-[Jess]-
Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?

and there has 20% for everyone was scum.

@All please post your though about who is scum(sound silly and use probability)(5 people=100%)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
will go now,back in 3 hour later
Birdy

-[Jess]- wrote:

Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?
I don't know what you're trying to say (or referring to) but it sounds like blackpainting to me. There's no such thing as "too townie to be a townie" in case you were formerly townreading him or whatever.

Nyquill wrote:

Scumteam has to be people that COMPLETELY missed the entire turmoil between Drezi and rEdo, otherwise there would actually be no logical explanation for the Drezi kill.
Good point.
Birdy

Nyquill wrote:

Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.
Also fuck I just realized this might be an attempt to defend Ace by Nyquill, which does sound more legitimate now when brought up many days after it happened. I hate all this wine.
Zexion

Nyquill wrote:

Scumteam has to be people that COMPLETELY missed the entire turmoil between Drezi and rEdo, otherwise there would actually be no logical explanation for the Drezi kill.

I think at this point Jess takes the cake for the above category.

Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.

Zexion: solidify your claim if you weren't just fucking around day 2. This is important.
That's an interesting point. Drezi was just a good poster back there (i.e. he looked in depth in a lot of things) and rEdo's final post suspected him, scum could have used this to their advantage D2, seems he was just killed for talking too much... at least that what I get from that point.

I agree with Jess taking that place. She did just jump on the rEdo's wagon just because Drezi spoke nice words too: p/4304551

-[Jess]- wrote:

unvote
vote:rEdo

I am agree what Drezi said about rEdo.

About slaini.....let him live in D1 :^)maybe?
(this post is quite interesting to read after the flips)

Ace huh.. you probably mean: p/4311963/

Ace Timing wrote:

My biggest question is, why did both scum pick Drezi? It seems sort of counter intuitive, seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
I honestly never gave it more thought actually... I just imagined Drezi got killed by being a big talker and maybe pointed some newb-scum, but I never undestood ther role part. If we assume Mafia has a roleblocker, it makes sense why Navi didn't get killed N1, but his death N2 makes me wonder if scum ran out of targets and killed him just to increase the chance of a mislynch.

Also sorry, I'm a VT. I did not meant to claim a power role last day and lying from my part would be really stupid.

-[Jess]- wrote:

Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?

and there has 20% for everyone was scum.

@All please post your though about who is scum(sound silly and use probability)(5 people=100%)

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will go now,back in 3 hour later
So you're just spreading WIFOM. This is not a game of chances btw, we're not going to lynch someone randomly. This post sucks.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Nyquill wrote:

Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.
Also fuck I just realized this might be an attempt to defend Ace by Nyquill, which does sound more legitimate now when brought up many days after it happened. I hate all this wine.
...I think I'm drunk from all this alcohol.

I'll be taking my time to think this a bit better.
Zexion

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Nyquill wrote:

Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.
Also fuck I just realized this might be an attempt to defend Ace by Nyquill, which does sound more legitimate now when brought up many days after it happened. I hate all this wine.
But I also don't think Nyquill could have brought this sooner considering he was V/LA for almost all of D2.
Ace Timing

-[Jess]- wrote:

Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?

and there has 20% for everyone was scum.

@All please post your though about who is scum(sound silly and use probability)(5 people=100%)

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will go now,back in 3 hour later
Now that's a summy post.
  1. Putting suspicion on people with no evidence
  2. Asking for scum reads without sharing their own
  3. No explanations
  4. Classic "will be back in x hours"
This is gold.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?

and there has 20% for everyone was scum.

@All please post your though about who is scum(sound silly and use probability)(5 people=100%)

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will go now,back in 3 hour later
Now that's a summy post.
  1. Putting suspicion on people with no evidence
  2. Asking for scum reads without sharing their own
  3. No explanations
  4. Classic "will be back in x hours"
This is gold.
Your post feels forced you know, it's kinda obvious how bad that post is so you don't really need to point every little thing...

The paranoia is killing me.
-[Jess]-
@mod: V/LA until July 18

I have push myself so hard in thinking and planing my read
and I need rest and relax myself a bit.it let me can't sleep at night:(.
Zexion

-[Jess]- wrote:

@mod: V/LA until July 18

I have push myself so hard in thinking and planing my read
and I need rest and relax myself a bit.it let me can't sleep at night:(.
V/LA means you can't post at all, not that you don't want to post on this game.

We are all posting assumptions now. There's no need for your read to be perfect and plan it so much.

This is becoming so bad I'm about to cry.

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I don't think SNB is scum. She could have easily joined the rEdo wagon D1 but yet she pushed the Slaini lynch when she didn't have to.

An Ace+Jess team makes sense to me. Ace post feel way too forced and it might have been bussing. But then again Ace pointing the wierdness at the Drezi NK makes this all fall apart.

On the other hand, Jess is playing so bad that it makes me wonder how a possible scumpartner would react, or atleast what they would have talked about on night. I think at this point bussing would be really probable.

I also think we need to post more. Like, soon.
Birdy

Zexion wrote:

V/LA means you can't post at all, not that you don't want to post on this game.
I thought it meant limited access?! When I was V/LA during moving out I think I posted once or twice...

Also Ace you're dumb. Sure "Asking for scum reads without sharing their own" was a valid point, but I'm not so sure about them being scum ready to sheep someone, more like a newbie possibly trying to sheep someone.

Anyway I'm not sure about anything at this point, though I might have to vote Nyquill soon - I had my suspicions about Sakura at times through D1, though I believe I might never have voiced them. Nyquill is not looking good, at least. Not sure about Zexion here anymore, probably at the moment most townish after Jess, as Jess looks more like... well I just explained it didn't I. Ace could be a scum for trying to force a lynch with rather fragile reasoning - at this point of the game it's really just a way to get the game to end quickly, I guess by hoping someone from the townspeople would put a quick reckless vote there and therefore end the game?

I'm definitely not closing out any possibilities yet (especially about Jess), while trying to not overreact to anything (as if there was much to react to lmao) either.

I cry.
Ace Timing
I voted to hurry things along, but that was received negatively, so I guess the FoS would've been better there. Sorry for a misunderstanding if there is one, I want to be as transparent as possible, but some may take this as me lying to earn towncred, so whatever, I just wanted to let you guys know.
Nyquill

Zexion wrote:

I don't think SNB is scum. She could have easily joined the rEdo wagon D1 but yet she pushed the Slaini lynch when she didn't have to.
But slaini also flipped town, and if SNB was scum he wouldn't really care since he'd know both of them are mislynches? I mean Im not sure where this reasoning is coming from.

Frankly at this moment, since I don't see you being possible scumbuddies with SNB, I don't want to lynch from you guys right now. If either of you gets removed tonight provided we lynch correctly, and if I'm still alive, I think I can make a much better judgement.

Ace vs Jess.
Zexion

Nyquill wrote:

Zexion wrote:

I don't think SNB is scum. She could have easily joined the rEdo wagon D1 but yet she pushed the Slaini lynch when she didn't have to.
But slaini also flipped town, and if SNB was scum he wouldn't really care since he'd know both of them are mislynches? I mean Im not sure where this reasoning is coming from.

Frankly at this moment, since I don't see you being possible scumbuddies with SNB, I don't want to lynch from you guys right now. If either of you gets removed tonight provided we lynch correctly, and if I'm still alive, I think I can make a much better judgement.

Ace vs Jess.
My first point was because the rEdo lynch was easier to push due to Drezi's walls. But you're right, that logic is flawed.

I also didn't have intention to lynch you or SNB right now. I was either going for Jess or Ace, but honestly Jess being so bad at this point (I mean, we have all the reasons to lynch her) it was makes this all too strange... and too convinient.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 3.2

[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Nyquill, Static Noise Bird, Zexion
With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

Deadline is July 19th at 11:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 47.5 hours away from now.
Birdy
Jess does seem questionable, as does literally everyone, and I'm afraid it will turn out exactly like with Slaini.

I can't say I'm not interested in lynching Ace at this point, though. In addition to the previously mentioned reasons, with the earlier vote by them, I think Ace would have not done it as a townsman, if we look at how easy it would have been for the scum to just jump on the wagon and end the game.
Ace Timing

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Jess does seem questionable, as does literally everyone, and I'm afraid it will turn out exactly like with Slaini.

I can't say I'm not interested in lynching Ace at this point, though. In addition to the previously mentioned reasons, with the earlier vote by them, I think Ace would have not done it as a townsman, if we look at how easy it would have been for the scum to just jump on the wagon and end the game.
I already explained why that vote was justified. No one was jumping on that wagon. Until I was asked by both you and Zexion to pull my vote, I was watching very closely to see how Nyquill or Jess would respond. If anyone else voted, I would have pulled the vote. Not saying that the post accusing Nyquill with rather weak logic was a reaction test as well, but the vote was. I didn't get anything out of it, mind you, either. I'm still not too sure about Nyquill, but I'm not opposed to Jess being lynched. But then again we have 47 hours left, we might as well make use of them, and scumhunt to the end.
Ace Timing
Guys we're losing precious time. We need to decide who to lynch, if we don't lynch scum today, we'll lose. Now's not the best time for this game to be dead.
Birdy
I thought I posted something whopps. I was supposed to say something along the lines of not being able to take any risks of closing the possibility of my theory out.

I'm just highly paranoid at this state of the game tbh. I've never even been in LyLo before, fuck.
Topic Starter
Amianki
-[Jess]-'s V/LA is now considered expired.

24 hours (and two minutes) until deadline.
-[Jess]-
any final conclusion yet?Who will be lynch?
Birdy

-[Jess]- wrote:

any final conclusion yet?Who will be lynch?
Who do you think should be?
-[Jess]-

Static Noise Bird wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

any final conclusion yet?Who will be lynch?
Who do you think should be?
Either me or Ace.
Birdy

-[Jess]- wrote:

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Who do you think should be?
Either me or Ace.
Are you scumclaiming?
-[Jess]-

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Are you scumclaiming?
Hmmm.....I don't know if it's yes or no for me.
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Since You guys have much reason to lynch me and I want to share my thoughts about ace

Ace like to hurry us to make a lynch.I am curious about why he do that.
And I seen he has rush to lynch about more than once.
What is that means?
Topic Starter
Amianki
10 hours and 22 minutes left.

Vote count still empty.
Nyquill
wtf is this LOL
Nyquill
Also I had hoped this situation wouldn't happen. We have 8 hours to decide on someone to lynch guys. I'm not really good at leading town so I think I'll leave some of my thoughts on the two people I want lynched from and come back to it in a bit:

Jess is slowly leaning into a Slaini seat, as in she's LITERALLY saying scummy things at every turn. personally I think she's the better lynch, but again, Slaini seat...

Ace doesn't seem to be scum to me, but I think he has potential to be scumbuddies with either zexion or SNB more. The only person I see Jess being scumbuddies is Zexion, as SNB's jump on Jess's "scumslip" on QTs seemed like legitimate concern and not an attempt to bus.
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