And why exactly are you interested in knowing that in this point of the game?Ace Timing wrote:
So no one is claiming a role today?
And why exactly are you interested in knowing that in this point of the game?Ace Timing wrote:
So no one is claiming a role today?
You makes me feel hungry again.sLaiNi wrote:
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then)
Well, either we're on the setup with no other PR or we have a 1 shot-Bp which doesn't make much sense in claiming.sLaiNi wrote:
@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.
So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.
First of all: The mafia kills:
I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.
If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then)
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.
Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.
---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.
Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?
This is just rich. I've gone through your ISO and I'm not suprised to see your lack of recent contributions. All you have been doing is jumping on wagons because someone else wrote nice walls or just repeating old ideas. Care to tell me, in your own words and ideas, why I "reek of scum"? Honestly I don't reallly care about Navi since he's just misled (confirmed town and asdf) but you on the other hand sound much more scummy.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Fully aware. I'd be surprised if we were not lynching him today.
To be honest, it's much safer to asume there's a roleblocker among mafia rather than just killing Drezi for talking too much. But as you say there's no way to confirm this as they are just ideas...Navizel wrote:
I don't even know why I'm still alive. Everyone is null to me except Zexion, Slaini, and Jess. Zexion and Slaini are my main scumreads while Jess is a null-scum. Sakura was null-town but I don't know about Nyquill.
Hmm.. sometimes I feel like mafia are the newbies cause they left JK. However, that might mean there's a roleblocker in the mafia. I would like to add something here but I don't want to teach mafia.
One reason I can think of why mafia is composed of the newbies is they are intimidated by Drezi. Drezi is an 'experienced' player and newbies tend to get intimidated and they fear townies who can give information.
I can't sort out my thoughts smh. I have some speculations but I can't properly explain them.
I've mentioned the Drezi/rEdo discussion already, did you guys just skip my post? Also yeah, its kinda surprising that no one else seems to be gathering info from the previous day, its like D1 all over again.Navizel wrote:
Have any of you read Drezi and rEdo's ISOs? I feel like most of the people aren't talking about D1.
I don't really get the idea of the first post.Navizel wrote:
I'm seriously regretting that I went for the offensive N1. I forgot this post, shit p/4293681/
And seriously, why are we not lynching either Slaini or Zexion yet. p/4304790
Which postZexion wrote:
And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?
But you jumped on Slaini's one because reasons. You didn't contribute a single thing, and don't say its okay to do that when the person you're about to lynch isn't plain obvious. (i.e. a strong scumslip)Static Noise Bird wrote:
How in the hell have I jumped on wagons when I was the first to vote you today and explicitly did NOT jump on the rEdo wagon?
I don't really care what you think of me as I think you're scum too. I've stated the reasons for the rEdo lynch many many times and I don't really see WHY you think I was just pushing it for my own intentions. Hika was scummy on her own, rEdo didn't help much either and that's why I helped Drezi with the wagon. If you still think the lynch was unjustified or it was just for my own reasons I really suggest you read the previous day with a little more consideration.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.
Ace Timing wrote:
Which postZexion wrote:
And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?
sLaiNi wrote:
@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.
So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.
First of all: The mafia kills:
I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.
If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then)
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.
Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.
---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.
Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?
Any lynch is justifiable if you try hard enoughZexion wrote:
Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
It's obviously they're trying hard. I didn't ask that.Ace Timing wrote:
Any lynch is justifiable if you try hard enoughZexion wrote:
Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
Sure, Slaini may very well be scum, but my flip won't really help you in anything. (That is, if you're really town because your playstyle) How about you explain the reason why I "reek of scum" too?Navizel wrote:
Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.
one reason could be that you only appear when you're accused of something, or how you make walls of text that just say "look at X's ISO, they're really scummy" without actually citing anything. Another could be that you are often reluctant to change your vote on people. But then again those are just reasons.Zexion wrote:
Sure, Slaini may very well be scum, but my flip won't really help you in anything. (That is, if you're really town because your playstyle) How about you explain the reason why I "reek of scum" too?Navizel wrote:
Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.
No.If you think that is justified.It is Justified : )Zexion wrote:
Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
I'm not saying its justified, I am asking you what you think about that. But since your vote is not on me, I can tell you don't quite buy it as navizel does.-[Jess]- wrote:
No.If you think that is justified.It is Justified : )Zexion wrote:
Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
Also rip cb
Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!Static Noise Bird wrote:
Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.
You could make that meaningful post, right? Just sayin'. There's a lot of stuff to work with.-[Jess]- wrote:
well,i have nothing to say unit someone post a meaningful post
go to sleep now
lol yes that's exactly what I said, rightZexion wrote:
Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!
besides posts like this that reek of badStatic Noise Bird wrote:
Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.
Navizel wrote:
Scum to town
Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel
Discuss.
Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?Navizel wrote:
Scum to town
Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel
Discuss.
You're hilarious. Seriously though, don't kid yourself, you are at the minimum second on that list.sLaiNi wrote:
Hm, I'd be around
Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
Well Ace is really difficult to read, as he entered the game late, and with a really odd post that almost got him lynched. He successfully defended himself, and that seems so have earned him some town cred, but its really hard to get any sort of hold on him because he's really enigmatic (try reassembling the letters in his name) and plays his cards close to his chest. His playstyle is very similar to Hika's but he seems to know when to quit while he's ahead and show his cards in the face of an imminent lynch. A good place for him would be null, but its hard to ascertain his alignment.sLaiNi wrote:
Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?Navizel wrote:
Scum to town
Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel
Discuss.
funny guysLaiNi wrote:
Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.where did she did this?
Honestly, I don't read a lot of scum from Zexion. He gives good points for the progression and tries to analyze every player (except Nyquill until now o.O) without using small scumslips or something like that to push a wagon on them. But besides of that, I can't read a lot of town from him either. He is rather null now.Are you sure? You seem to be misunderstanding his wall of texts.
Navizel probably is jailkeeper, so no need to talk about him then.lol. So you're just ok with my claim being uncertain to you. Okay then/
That Text seems actually quite fitting I guess o.OAce Timing wrote:
Well Ace is really difficult to read, as he entered the game late, and with a really odd post that almost got him lynched. He successfully defended himself, and that seems so have earned him some town cred, but its really hard to get any sort of hold on him because he's really enigmatic (try reassembling the letters in his name) and plays his cards close to his chest. His playstyle is very similar to Hika's but he seems to know when to quit while he's ahead and show his cards in the face of an imminent lynch. A good place for him would be null, but its hard to ascertain his alignment.sLaiNi wrote:
Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?
:^)
Yes it is and it's used correctly here.sLaiNi wrote:
So they were kinda halfhearted (is this even an English phrase like in German o.O) written
You seem to be in a very good mood today I guess ^^Ace Timing wrote:
Yes it is and it's used correctly here.sLaiNi wrote:
So they were kinda halfhearted (is this even an English phrase like in German o.O) written
hmm....Why don't you vote me?sLaiNi wrote:
Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)
How?sLaiNi wrote:
Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
There are two options in the game: town or scum. If you're not sure about one, then you're claiming the other. Don't play dumb.Static Noise Bird wrote:
lol yes that's exactly what I said, rightZexion wrote:
Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!
Like I stated before, it's tough to read him because he's acting like a newbie. I'm not exactly sure whether those are real newbie mistakes or "scumslips" covered up by stating that they are a newbie.
SNB's attitude has been just joining wagons without any new reasons and come on, just acussing me of scum because I pressed the rEdo lynch is hardly a reason to call me "conf-scum". Being that desperate is just looking for any reason to lynch and makes me really wary.Nyquill wrote:
wait zexion, why are you putting SNB over slaini?
How is Jess close to town if she has barely contributed at all? Also I'm curious about why you read Ace as so town. So yeah, please explain those two.Navizel wrote:
Scum to town
Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel
Discuss.
^-[Jess]- wrote:
hmm....Why don't you vote me?sLaiNi wrote:
Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)
How is Jess close to town if she has barely contributed at all? Also I'm curious about why you read Ace as so town. So yeah, please explain those two.Not really. It's just that compared to others, they are less scummy.
You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.soft claiming huh
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.-[Jess]- wrote:
hmm....Why don't you vote me?sLaiNi wrote:
Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)How?sLaiNi wrote:
Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
i never share them?
That post was me analyzing myself as Slaini asked Navizel what he read on me, no memes are even in that paragraph.Zexion wrote:
Also @Ace I'm not going to read a post ending with this ":^)" so please avoid meme-writing and get serious.
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
100% scum confirm.sLaiNi wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.Navizel wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
That was the kind of thing I was waiting for, another hop on something really small as I stated before.-[Jess]- wrote:
100% scum confirm.sLaiNi wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.sLaiNi wrote:
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.Navizel wrote:
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.sLaiNi wrote:
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
You're just looking guilty. Stop it. That's totally not what I was implying. Bolded is a funny line. hahahahahaSlaini wrote:
Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.
Slaini wrote:
Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.Why not Ace exactly?
Why not Navizel?Navizel wrote:
You're just looking guilty. Stop it. That's totally not what I was implying. Bolded is a funny line. hahahahahaSlaini wrote:
Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.Slaini wrote:
Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>MeWhat about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.Why not Ace exactly?
Nice twist brosLaiNi wrote:
That was the kind of thing I was waiting for, another hop on something really small as I stated before.
Vote: -[Jess]-
Slaini wrote:
Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.Why not Ace exactly?[/quote]
That jab lolNavizel wrote:
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.sLaiNi wrote:
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
I laughed here, you're embarrassing yourself lol.sLaiNi wrote:
Why not Navizel?Navizel wrote:
Why not Ace exactly?
That situation would be called MyLo or Mislynch-and-Lose so yeah I guess.sLaiNi wrote:
If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?
Ah thanksAce Timing wrote:
That situation would be called MyLo or Mislynch-and-Lose so yeah I guess.sLaiNi wrote:
If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?
That's up to you to decide. Sounding familiar?Navizel wrote:
You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.soft claiming huh
Just curious here, voting here for OMGUS reasons or there's actually something else I'm missing?-[Jess]- wrote:
100% scum confirm.sLaiNi wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
This is not directed towards me, and I do not intent to defend Slaini, but what do you mean "acting like me"? Your accusations aren't clear enough therefore misunderstanding is possible, (therefore you could end "twisting someone's words") maybe you could explain in detail what did he twist here so everyone can understand your actions?Navizel wrote:
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.sLaiNi wrote:
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Kinda my point.Navizel wrote:
You totally don't get it.
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Navizel?too lazy to search Zexion's ISO for similar posts.
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them.Those examples are not how you disprove a point.
Disproving is one thing, but the point has to be viable in some sort. If I (ignoring the fact of your claim) would accuse you of being scum together with Jess, how would you disprove it?Navizel wrote:
Slaini was answering my questions with another question. Just like what you did before.
Slaini'sWhat about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.Why not Navizel?too lazy to search Zexion's ISO for similar posts.
Redirecting as wellSo Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them.Those examples are not how you disprove a point.
Yeah he said in the case of rEdo flipping scum, Nyquil/Sakura would be the likely scumpal.Navizel wrote:
Just in case I die tonight..
If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
So I'm willing to bet there's at least one scum on Slaini's wagon. After all, if that didn't happen we wouldn't be at LyLo. Tho Ace not voting makes me somewhat insecure of pinning scum in either SNB or Jess. Then again I haven't seen much input from Nyquill to make sure they are really town... Sakura didn't exactly gave me a strong town vibe. Also Navi's last post seem like this could be more important.Amianki wrote:
Vote Count 2.7
[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Because this too.Navizel wrote:
Just in case I die tonight..
If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
Static Noise Bird wrote:
I certainly do not. It's just bad that he's such a hazy target due to the, well, hazy and (especially formerly) newbieful posts.
Vote: Slaini
SNB did hesitate on lynching Slaini. This makes me feel uneasy about her being scum, because I guess any scum player would have used the chance inmediatly to get a mislynch... SNB did end up voting Slaini, so maybe she wanted the approach to be as town as possible...?Static Noise Bird wrote:
Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.
This was actually an useful post I ignored. Going through Jess' ISO just show her doing small things here and there and just jumping into wagons. She was Slaini's #1 scumread (not saying this confirms anything) but as soon he accuses Jess:sLaiNi wrote:
Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
This vote post disturbs me. Seems like Jess got really aggresive at this point because Slaini pointed her as scum. A desperate attempt of pinning the blame on him so she wouldn't get any votes?-[Jess]- wrote:
100% scum confirm.sLaiNi wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
Well, Slaini wasn't scum... so if we take the newbie thing that would mean he was just scared of voting someone because what others could have said about the vote. At least that's what I felt on my first game.Navizel wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
Also please note that this entire post is wrong. Reminder that being confirmed town doesn't make your reads 100% accuarate. (I'm taking the same approach on Slaini)rEdo wrote:
lmao I'm actually eating the rope
I want you to lynch somebody from {Drezi, sLaiNi, Zexion} tomorrow. Either works, to be honest. I already stated my logic on sLaiNi-Zexion, Drezi just sucks balls.
Please do it a ASAP. We do need more stuff coming from you, since you were V/LA for almost all of D2.Nyquill wrote:
these newbie games are actually too confusing.
I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
This post felt a little weird to me. Also how Jess told us to look at the QT from previous games when that seems like a bit of a waste.-[Jess]- wrote:
100% scum confirm.sLaiNi wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
these newbie games are actually too confusing.and here
I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
I'm back and I took a glance at things because I'm a little tired to do things right now. Will post in the morning.And he seems to not like revealing things evidenced here
There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads.I won't vote on just this just yet, but just I'll leave it here so that people won't say I'm not paying attention or something.