I don't understand what you're saying.
Yeah he said in the case of rEdo flipping scum, Nyquil/Sakura would be the likely scumpal.Navizel wrote:
Just in case I die tonight..
If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
So I'm willing to bet there's at least one scum on Slaini's wagon. After all, if that didn't happen we wouldn't be at LyLo. Tho Ace not voting makes me somewhat insecure of pinning scum in either SNB or Jess. Then again I haven't seen much input from Nyquill to make sure they are really town... Sakura didn't exactly gave me a strong town vibe. Also Navi's last post seem like this could be more important.Amianki wrote:
Vote Count 2.7
[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Because this too.Navizel wrote:
Just in case I die tonight..
If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
Static Noise Bird wrote:
I certainly do not. It's just bad that he's such a hazy target due to the, well, hazy and (especially formerly) newbieful posts.
Vote: Slaini
SNB did hesitate on lynching Slaini. This makes me feel uneasy about her being scum, because I guess any scum player would have used the chance inmediatly to get a mislynch... SNB did end up voting Slaini, so maybe she wanted the approach to be as town as possible...?Static Noise Bird wrote:
Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.
This was actually an useful post I ignored. Going through Jess' ISO just show her doing small things here and there and just jumping into wagons. She was Slaini's #1 scumread (not saying this confirms anything) but as soon he accuses Jess:sLaiNi wrote:
Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
This vote post disturbs me. Seems like Jess got really aggresive at this point because Slaini pointed her as scum. A desperate attempt of pinning the blame on him so she wouldn't get any votes?-[Jess]- wrote:
100% scum confirm.sLaiNi wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
Well, Slaini wasn't scum... so if we take the newbie thing that would mean he was just scared of voting someone because what others could have said about the vote. At least that's what I felt on my first game.Navizel wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
Also please note that this entire post is wrong. Reminder that being confirmed town doesn't make your reads 100% accuarate. (I'm taking the same approach on Slaini)rEdo wrote:
lmao I'm actually eating the rope
I want you to lynch somebody from {Drezi, sLaiNi, Zexion} tomorrow. Either works, to be honest. I already stated my logic on sLaiNi-Zexion, Drezi just sucks balls.
Please do it a ASAP. We do need more stuff coming from you, since you were V/LA for almost all of D2.Nyquill wrote:
these newbie games are actually too confusing.
I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
This post felt a little weird to me. Also how Jess told us to look at the QT from previous games when that seems like a bit of a waste.-[Jess]- wrote:
100% scum confirm.sLaiNi wrote:
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
these newbie games are actually too confusing.and here
I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
I'm back and I took a glance at things because I'm a little tired to do things right now. Will post in the morning.And he seems to not like revealing things evidenced here
There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads.I won't vote on just this just yet, but just I'll leave it here so that people won't say I'm not paying attention or something.
That's kinda obvious isn't it? I can gather from there that we could actually be dealing with newbie scum too, since I haven't seen any gambits and stuff some pro scum players would do.Ace Timing wrote:
I'm trying to think from the mafia point of view, and it seems like they want to get rid of all of the experienced players because they believe that with only newbs, it will be harder to find scum. I going to go ahead and take a gander at the makeup of the mafia. One experienced player and one newer player. This means that the schemes that the mafia comes up with will probably get more reckless after the more experienced player is lynched. The only experienced players left are Zexion, SNB, and Nyquill. Nyquill is who I'm primarily thinking of because he rarely contributes any thing, but always leaves posts that imply that he will.
So how?Ace Timing wrote:
It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.
Mafia so dead.
That's the worst part. There are currently still at least a dozen possible combinations and just like how we couldn't be sure with Slaini, I don't know what to believe or how to read anything any more.Ace Timing wrote:
It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.
Mafia so dead.
Why would you want for Nyquill instead of posting your own conclusions and stuff? That's not a reallly good approach considering our situation...Static Noise Bird wrote:
That's the worst part. There are currently still at least a dozen possible combinations and just like how we couldn't be sure with Slaini, I don't know what to believe or how to read anything any more.Ace Timing wrote:
It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.
Mafia so dead.
I feel like I butchered the English language there. Sorry if that's somewhat weirdly written (it's 4:30am forgive me). Guess I'll/we'll wait for Nyquill and sit in silence.
This is rushed. We haven't even heard from Nyquill yet and you are voting him? Bad. Unvote ASAP.Ace Timing wrote:
vote Nyquill
Then the only thing left to do its to discard your previous ideas, and begin too make your reads anew, don't you think? It's not really the time to give up.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Isn't that a bit rushed, Ace?
Also @Zexion I don't have reads or conclusions, I'm quite honestly lost like I stated in my previous post. You made some good points (about Jess) in your recent post but that's about it so far.
I don't get the joke.Ace Timing wrote:
I know that, I was just joking.
The joke was when I accused SNB of being scumpals with Nyquill.Zexion wrote:
I don't get the joke.Ace Timing wrote:
I know that, I was just joking.
Not to sound rude or anything, but LyLo isn't a really good moment to make non-serious posts...Ace Timing wrote:
The joke was when I accused SNB of being scumpals with Nyquill.Zexion wrote:
I don't get the joke.
Revealing all your reads day 1 means showing all your cards up front. It doesn't benefit scumhunting as much as actual actions do.Ace Timing wrote:
There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads.I won't vote on just this just yet, but just I'll leave it here so that people won't say I'm not paying attention or something.
I don't know what you're trying to say (or referring to) but it sounds like blackpainting to me. There's no such thing as "too townie to be a townie" in case you were formerly townreading him or whatever.-[Jess]- wrote:
Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?
Good point.Nyquill wrote:
Scumteam has to be people that COMPLETELY missed the entire turmoil between Drezi and rEdo, otherwise there would actually be no logical explanation for the Drezi kill.
Also fuck I just realized this might be an attempt to defend Ace by Nyquill, which does sound more legitimate now when brought up many days after it happened. I hate all this wine.Nyquill wrote:
Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.
That's an interesting point. Drezi was just a good poster back there (i.e. he looked in depth in a lot of things) and rEdo's final post suspected him, scum could have used this to their advantage D2, seems he was just killed for talking too much... at least that what I get from that point.Nyquill wrote:
Scumteam has to be people that COMPLETELY missed the entire turmoil between Drezi and rEdo, otherwise there would actually be no logical explanation for the Drezi kill.
I think at this point Jess takes the cake for the above category.
Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.
Zexion: solidify your claim if you weren't just fucking around day 2. This is important.
(this post is quite interesting to read after the flips)-[Jess]- wrote:
unvote
vote:rEdo
I am agree what Drezi said about rEdo.
About slaini.....let him live in D1 :^)maybe?
I honestly never gave it more thought actually... I just imagined Drezi got killed by being a big talker and maybe pointed some newb-scum, but I never undestood ther role part. If we assume Mafia has a roleblocker, it makes sense why Navi didn't get killed N1, but his death N2 makes me wonder if scum ran out of targets and killed him just to increase the chance of a mislynch.Ace Timing wrote:
My biggest question is, why did both scum pick Drezi? It seems sort of counter intuitive, seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
So you're just spreading WIFOM. This is not a game of chances btw, we're not going to lynch someone randomly. This post sucks.-[Jess]- wrote:
Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?
and there has 20% for everyone was scum.
@All please post your though about who is scum(sound silly and use probability)(5 people=100%)
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will go now,back in 3 hour later
...I think I'm drunk from all this alcohol.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Also fuck I just realized this might be an attempt to defend Ace by Nyquill, which does sound more legitimate now when brought up many days after it happened. I hate all this wine.Nyquill wrote:
Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.
But I also don't think Nyquill could have brought this sooner considering he was V/LA for almost all of D2.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Also fuck I just realized this might be an attempt to defend Ace by Nyquill, which does sound more legitimate now when brought up many days after it happened. I hate all this wine.Nyquill wrote:
Ace takes notice immediately that its odd that scum would pick Drezi as a kill target. That and he posted while being sandwiched between all of that. I don't think its likely he is scum. It doesn't immediately put him in the clear by the above because its by a logic I still don't agree with.
Now that's a summy post.-[Jess]- wrote:
Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?
and there has 20% for everyone was scum.
@All please post your though about who is scum(sound silly and use probability)(5 people=100%)
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will go now,back in 3 hour later
Your post feels forced you know, it's kinda obvious how bad that post is so you don't really need to point every little thing...Ace Timing wrote:
Now that's a summy post.-[Jess]- wrote:
Just curious, why no one thinks IF Ace was misleading us to the wrong direction?
and there has 20% for everyone was scum.
@All please post your though about who is scum(sound silly and use probability)(5 people=100%)
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will go now,back in 3 hour laterThis is gold.
- Putting suspicion on people with no evidence
- Asking for scum reads without sharing their own
- No explanations
- Classic "will be back in x hours"
V/LA means you can't post at all, not that you don't want to post on this game.-[Jess]- wrote:
@mod: V/LA until July 18
I have push myself so hard in thinking and planing my read
and I need rest and relax myself a bit.it let me can't sleep at night:(.
I thought it meant limited access?! When I was V/LA during moving out I think I posted once or twice...Zexion wrote:
V/LA means you can't post at all, not that you don't want to post on this game.
But slaini also flipped town, and if SNB was scum he wouldn't really care since he'd know both of them are mislynches? I mean Im not sure where this reasoning is coming from.Zexion wrote:
I don't think SNB is scum. She could have easily joined the rEdo wagon D1 but yet she pushed the Slaini lynch when she didn't have to.
My first point was because the rEdo lynch was easier to push due to Drezi's walls. But you're right, that logic is flawed.Nyquill wrote:
But slaini also flipped town, and if SNB was scum he wouldn't really care since he'd know both of them are mislynches? I mean Im not sure where this reasoning is coming from.Zexion wrote:
I don't think SNB is scum. She could have easily joined the rEdo wagon D1 but yet she pushed the Slaini lynch when she didn't have to.
Frankly at this moment, since I don't see you being possible scumbuddies with SNB, I don't want to lynch from you guys right now. If either of you gets removed tonight provided we lynch correctly, and if I'm still alive, I think I can make a much better judgement.
Ace vs Jess.
I already explained why that vote was justified. No one was jumping on that wagon. Until I was asked by both you and Zexion to pull my vote, I was watching very closely to see how Nyquill or Jess would respond. If anyone else voted, I would have pulled the vote. Not saying that the post accusing Nyquill with rather weak logic was a reaction test as well, but the vote was. I didn't get anything out of it, mind you, either. I'm still not too sure about Nyquill, but I'm not opposed to Jess being lynched. But then again we have 47 hours left, we might as well make use of them, and scumhunt to the end.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Jess does seem questionable, as does literally everyone, and I'm afraid it will turn out exactly like with Slaini.
I can't say I'm not interested in lynching Ace at this point, though. In addition to the previously mentioned reasons, with the earlier vote by them, I think Ace would have not done it as a townsman, if we look at how easy it would have been for the scum to just jump on the wagon and end the game.
Who do you think should be?-[Jess]- wrote:
any final conclusion yet?Who will be lynch?
Either me or Ace.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Who do you think should be?-[Jess]- wrote:
any final conclusion yet?Who will be lynch?
Are you scumclaiming?-[Jess]- wrote:
Either me or Ace.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Who do you think should be?
Hmmm.....I don't know if it's yes or no for me.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Are you scumclaiming?
This is the one time I'm pushing for us to find scum. It's LyLo, if we don't lynch scum we lose.-[Jess]- wrote:
Ace like to hurry us to make a lynch.I am curious about why he do that.
And I seen he has rush to lynch about more than once.
What is that means?
Amianki wrote:
Vote Count 2.7
[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is -0.25 hours away from now.
As seen here. You on the other hand are on every single wagon that led to a lynch.Amianki wrote:
Vote Count 1.11
[4] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi, -[Jess]- [L-1]
[3] sLaiNi -- Navizel rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- -3 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
There's actually no way this is a town reaction.-[Jess]- wrote:
Hmmm.....I don't know if it's yes or no for me.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Are you scumclaiming?
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Since You guys have much reason to lynch me and I want to share my thoughts about ace
Ace like to hurry us to make a lynch.I am curious about why he do that.
And I seen he has rush to lynch about more than once.
What is that means?
Aight, I'm here.Nyquill wrote:
BP claim now.
I'm VT, so the only other person who could claim is you.Nyquill wrote:
So there's no counter claim?