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sLaiNi
@Zexion, the bolder part about Drezi being the most obvious "lynch" for being the most reputable towns was misswrote. I meant to say nightkill :D

Its 23:30 here. So I go to sleep. I will be more active tomorrow. Good night @ all
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.3

[2] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird, Navizel
[1] sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill, sLaiNi
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 4 days and 4 hours away.

Nyquill is V/LA until July 9th.
Navizel
rip cb
Navizel
Can't be bothered to explain what has already been explained.
-[Jess]-

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
No.If you think that is justified.It is Justified : )

Also rip cb
Birdy
rip everyone I guess'

I hope Nyquill can return soon.
Navizel
I believe we're just waiting for a lynch to happen.
Navizel
At least for me. Just waiting for either Slaini or Zexion to get lynched.
Birdy
Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.
Nyquill
I'm back and I took a glance at things because I'm a little tired to do things right now. Will post in the morning.

Also everyone tossing the word "conf" around should prepare their anus.
Zexion
On phone now, couldn't log in today. Will sleep then post in some hours.
-[Jess]-
well,i have nothing to say unit someone post a meaningful post

go to sleep now
Zexion

-[Jess]- wrote:

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
No.If you think that is justified.It is Justified : )

Also rip cb
I'm not saying its justified, I am asking you what you think about that. But since your vote is not on me, I can tell you don't quite buy it as navizel does.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.
Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!

-[Jess]- wrote:

well,i have nothing to say unit someone post a meaningful post

go to sleep now
You could make that meaningful post, right? Just sayin'. There's a lot of stuff to work with.
Birdy

Zexion wrote:

Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!
lol yes that's exactly what I said, right

Like I stated before, it's tough to read him because he's acting like a newbie. I'm not exactly sure whether those are real newbie mistakes or "scumslips" covered up by stating that they are a newbie.
Nyquill
wait zexion, why are you putting SNB over slaini?
Nyquill

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.
besides posts like this that reek of bad
Navizel
Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.
Birdy
I'm sad but at least we can agree on the bottom 2.
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.

Hm, I'd be around

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.

SNB's reaction on Jess' potential scumslip was like getting onto the wagon before it really starts off. Then, when Ace goes of the wagon, she just jumps off without any comment and votes Zexion. Just my thoughts on this.

I can barely read anything of Ace. What makes me feel strange about him is when Jess' did these accusations on me and I defended me and he stated that it would be strange behavior to defend myself, as she would've only done this once (while she has done it multiple times). This seemed like he would defend the potential manipulation that Jess did there IMO.

Honestly, I don't read a lot of scum from Zexion. He gives good points for the progression and tries to analyze every player (except Nyquill until now o.O) without using small scumslips or something like that to push a wagon on them. But besides of that, I can't read a lot of town from him either. He is rather null now.

I have to make some thoughts on Nyquill first. As she is Sakuras successor I read her townish, but I search for some parallels between her and Sakura's behavior.

Navizel probably is jailkeeper, so no need to talk about him then.

Very late here (midnight), I go to sleep now.
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.
Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

Hm, I'd be around

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
You're hilarious. Seriously though, don't kid yourself, you are at the minimum second on that list.
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.
Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?
Well Ace is really difficult to read, as he entered the game late, and with a really odd post that almost got him lynched. He successfully defended himself, and that seems so have earned him some town cred, but its really hard to get any sort of hold on him because he's really enigmatic (try reassembling the letters in his name) and plays his cards close to his chest. His playstyle is very similar to Hika's but he seems to know when to quit while he's ahead and show his cards in the face of an imminent lynch. A good place for him would be null, but its hard to ascertain his alignment.

:^)
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.4

[2] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird, Navizel
[1] sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill, sLaiNi
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 2 days and 2 hours away.
Navizel

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
funny guy

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
where did she did this?

Honestly, I don't read a lot of scum from Zexion. He gives good points for the progression and tries to analyze every player (except Nyquill until now o.O) without using small scumslips or something like that to push a wagon on them. But besides of that, I can't read a lot of town from him either. He is rather null now.
Are you sure? You seem to be misunderstanding his wall of texts.

Navizel probably is jailkeeper, so no need to talk about him then.
lol. So you're just ok with my claim being uncertain to you. Okay then/
sLaiNi
So basically you guys tell me, I should read myself as scum While I Know for MYSELF that i am Not? That were my reads people and not what I think others see in them. I mean like seriously, no-one would say "I read myself as scum, because others say I am, despite the fact that I know for MYSELF that I'm not, but others tell Me I am, so they must be right. CB was trolling me for sure with this PM".


I just don't get you twos way of thinking on that one.



PS: Ace defending himself while I just asked someone for reds as I can't read him which made me put him kinda null on my list. Funny guy
sLaiNi
@Navi

In what way am I missunderstanding them?


And I'm not uncertain of you claim in a way like "He's definitely not PR", rather that I trust you as long as no-one CCs. It was kinda strange that you didn't get killed, but a Strongarm would explain this, including the fact that a 1shotbp wouldnt have any reasons to reveal himself. Also scum might've thought we'd follow Sakuras assumption "If he doesn't get killed we'l lynch him tomorrow". If that's the case, they failed.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?
Well Ace is really difficult to read, as he entered the game late, and with a really odd post that almost got him lynched. He successfully defended himself, and that seems so have earned him some town cred, but its really hard to get any sort of hold on him because he's really enigmatic (try reassembling the letters in his name) and plays his cards close to his chest. His playstyle is very similar to Hika's but he seems to know when to quit while he's ahead and show his cards in the face of an imminent lynch. A good place for him would be null, but its hard to ascertain his alignment.

:^)
That Text seems actually quite fitting I guess o.O

I wrote the two posts above roughly 5 minutes after waking up. So they were kinda halfhearted (is this even an English phrase like in German o.O) written
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

So they were kinda halfhearted (is this even an English phrase like in German o.O) written
Yes it is and it's used correctly here.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So they were kinda halfhearted (is this even an English phrase like in German o.O) written
Yes it is and it's used correctly here.
You seem to be in a very good mood today I guess ^^
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)
hmm....Why don't you vote me?

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
How?
i never share them?
Zexion

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Zexion wrote:

Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!
lol yes that's exactly what I said, right

Like I stated before, it's tough to read him because he's acting like a newbie. I'm not exactly sure whether those are real newbie mistakes or "scumslips" covered up by stating that they are a newbie.
There are two options in the game: town or scum. If you're not sure about one, then you're claiming the other. Don't play dumb.

Oh, but of course I'm conf-scum so you're going to completly disregard anything I say. That's so town.

Nyquill wrote:

wait zexion, why are you putting SNB over slaini?
SNB's attitude has been just joining wagons without any new reasons and come on, just acussing me of scum because I pressed the rEdo lynch is hardly a reason to call me "conf-scum". Being that desperate is just looking for any reason to lynch and makes me really wary.

Now about Slaini, I've seen actually doing stuff in this day and honestly I don't see other reason to lynch him rather that he could be "newb-scum". Unless I'm actually missing a strong reason...

Navizel wrote:

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.
How is Jess close to town if she has barely contributed at all? Also I'm curious about why you read Ace as so town. So yeah, please explain those two.

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)
hmm....Why don't you vote me?
^

----------------------

Also @Ace I'm not going to read a post ending with this ":^)" so please avoid meme-writing and get serious.

Let's try to keep the game alive ppl. You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.
Navizel
How is Jess close to town if she has barely contributed at all? Also I'm curious about why you read Ace as so town. So yeah, please explain those two.
Not really. It's just that compared to others, they are less scummy.

You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.
soft claiming huh
Navizel
Okay, let's go back to my original vote. Vote: Slaini
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)
hmm....Why don't you vote me?

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
How?
i never share them?
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
Ace Timing

Zexion wrote:

Also @Ace I'm not going to read a post ending with this ":^)" so please avoid meme-writing and get serious.
That post was me analyzing myself as Slaini asked Navizel what he read on me, no memes are even in that paragraph.
Navizel
Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
That was the kind of thing I was waiting for, another hop on something really small as I stated before.

Vote: -[Jess]-
Navizel

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.
Navizel
You totally don't get it.
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.
Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.
sLaiNi
*your sentense
Navizel

Slaini wrote:

Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.
You're just looking guilty. Stop it. That's totally not what I was implying. Bolded is a funny line. hahahahaha

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Ace exactly?
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

Slaini wrote:

Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.
You're just looking guilty. Stop it. That's totally not what I was implying. Bolded is a funny line. hahahahaha

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Ace exactly?
Why not Navizel?
Navizel
hahahahhaahhahahahahaha omg this is a funny game xDDDD
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

That was the kind of thing I was waiting for, another hop on something really small as I stated before.

Vote: -[Jess]-
Nice twist bro

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Ace exactly?[/quote]

Why not Navizel?[/quote]

XD
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.5

[b][2]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[1] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 15.5 hours away from now.
Ace Timing

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.
That jab lol

sLaiNi wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Why not Ace exactly?
Why not Navizel?
I laughed here, you're embarrassing yourself lol.

Is this the start of the long awaited Slaini train?
sLaiNi
If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?
That situation would be called MyLo or Mislynch-and-Lose so yeah I guess.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?
That situation would be called MyLo or Mislynch-and-Lose so yeah I guess.
Ah thanks
Birdy
We're in MyLo if we're thinking pessimistically. We do have a potential jailkeeper (given that Navi's claim was honest) and 1-shot BP (if the matrix is in our favour).

If we were to think optimistically, let's just lynch the correct person today and none of the value will be lost.
Birdy
Also shit I'm feeling dizzy from night longboarding and movie marathon, I'll be back before the deadline though.
Navizel
LyLo actually. In MyLo, we can still no lynch. If we did that, scum will just kill someone at night and then that's game.
Navizel
3 town vs 2 mafia
no lynch d3
maf kills
2 town vs 2 mafia
mafia makes up half of the players
mafia wins, town gets endgamed
Birdy
Oh yeah, that makes sense. I keep forgetting the difference between those terms.
Zexion

Navizel wrote:

You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.
soft claiming huh
That's up to you to decide. Sounding familiar?

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
Just curious here, voting here for OMGUS reasons or there's actually something else I'm missing?

It would be pretty interesting if this was actually bussing...

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.
This is not directed towards me, and I do not intent to defend Slaini, but what do you mean "acting like me"? Your accusations aren't clear enough therefore misunderstanding is possible, (therefore you could end "twisting someone's words") maybe you could explain in detail what did he twist here so everyone can understand your actions?

Navizel wrote:

You totally don't get it.
Kinda my point.

-----------------------

Also everyone:

We lynch scum: Nothing. (4 town, 1 scum). If we lynch town then: 2 town 1 scum, LyLo.
We lynch town: LyLo (3 town, 2 scum). If we lynch scum then: 2 town 1 scum, LyLo.

Both are asumming scum sucessfuly kill someone every night.
Navizel
Slaini was answering my questions with another question. Just like what you did before.

Slaini's
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Navizel?
too lazy to search Zexion's ISO for similar posts.

Redirecting as well
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them.
Those examples are not how you disprove a point.
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

Slaini was answering my questions with another question. Just like what you did before.

Slaini's
What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.
Why not Navizel?
too lazy to search Zexion's ISO for similar posts.

Redirecting as well
So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them.
Those examples are not how you disprove a point.
Disproving is one thing, but the point has to be viable in some sort. If I (ignoring the fact of your claim) would accuse you of being scum together with Jess, how would you disprove it?

(Rather a learning question if you are so sure about my "Why not Nyquill" counterquestion being invalid)
Navizel
I don't understand what you're saying.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.6

[2]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[1] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 4.5 hours away from now.
Navizel
guyssss
Birdy
hey what's up
Birdy
I'm going to be surprised whatever Slaini flips. Guess we now have time only to hope and see.
Navizel
Just a reminder that someone needs to be at 3 votes for plurality lynch to activate this day.
Birdy
Shit. Should I?
Navizel
Unless you want to no lynch.
Birdy
I certainly do not. It's just bad that he's such a hazy target due to the, well, hazy and (especially formerly) newbieful posts.

Vote: Slaini
Ace Timing
Should I be saying "don't hammer guys" right about now?
Birdy
Considering there's pretty much no time left until twilight/night, sure.
Navizel
Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
Ace Timing

Navizel wrote:

Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
Yeah he said in the case of rEdo flipping scum, Nyquil/Sakura would be the likely scumpal.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.7

[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is -0.25 hours away from now.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Oops.

sLaiNi, Town Vanilla, has been lynched day two.

It is now Night two. Deadline is July 14th, 10:15PM CST (GMT-6). This is exactly 48 hours from now.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Shenanigans are afoot. Maybe. Kind of? Who knows?

Navizel, Town Jailkeeper, has been killed night two.

It is now Day Three. Deadline is July 19th, 11:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is slightly less than five days from now.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 3.1

[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Nyquill, Static Noise Bird, Zexion
With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

Deadline is July 19th at 11:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 120 hours away from now.
Navizel
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
-[Jess]-
._.
-[Jess]-
And I like it said with 7 alive in the vote count
Nyquill
these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
Zexion
Huh, Slaini's flip doesn't really come to surprise me. Hey people, not because you're new that means you're scum.

As you probably know, we're on LyLo right now which means if we mislynch is pretty much over for town. Please be careful with your votes.

I'm going to read a bit before posting anything else.
Zexion
Right, so Slaini got lynched because his newbie attitude and previous "scumslips", was that really enough for a reason to lynch him?

Here's my post-lynch anaylsis. My very first one!

Amianki wrote:

Vote Count 2.7

[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --

[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
So I'm willing to bet there's at least one scum on Slaini's wagon. After all, if that didn't happen we wouldn't be at LyLo. Tho Ace not voting makes me somewhat insecure of pinning scum in either SNB or Jess. Then again I haven't seen much input from Nyquill to make sure they are really town... Sakura didn't exactly gave me a strong town vibe. Also Navi's last post seem like this could be more important.

Navizel wrote:

Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.
Because this too.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

I certainly do not. It's just bad that he's such a hazy target due to the, well, hazy and (especially formerly) newbieful posts.

Vote: Slaini

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.
SNB did hesitate on lynching Slaini. This makes me feel uneasy about her being scum, because I guess any scum player would have used the chance inmediatly to get a mislynch... SNB did end up voting Slaini, so maybe she wanted the approach to be as town as possible...?

But then again I was "conf-scum" to her, yet she ended up changing her vote just so we ended up lynching someone.

Now about Jess:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.
This was actually an useful post I ignored. Going through Jess' ISO just show her doing small things here and there and just jumping into wagons. She was Slaini's #1 scumread (not saying this confirms anything) but as soon he accuses Jess:

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
This vote post disturbs me. Seems like Jess got really aggresive at this point because Slaini pointed her as scum. A desperate attempt of pinning the blame on him so she wouldn't get any votes?

Navizel wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.
Well, Slaini wasn't scum... so if we take the newbie thing that would mean he was just scared of voting someone because what others could have said about the vote. At least that's what I felt on my first game.

rEdo wrote:

lmao I'm actually eating the rope

I want you to lynch somebody from {Drezi, sLaiNi, Zexion} tomorrow. Either works, to be honest. I already stated my logic on sLaiNi-Zexion, Drezi just sucks balls.
Also please note that this entire post is wrong. Reminder that being confirmed town doesn't make your reads 100% accuarate. (I'm taking the same approach on Slaini)

Nyquill wrote:

these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
Please do it a ASAP. We do need more stuff coming from you, since you were V/LA for almost all of D2.

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Sorry that my ideas are kinda messy right now, I have a reason to suspect everyone at this point. I would go for a SNB or Jess lynch at this point, but SNB actually gives me town vibes due to her hesitation in lynching Slaini... seems like a town attitude. (But it doesn't go very well with her words) I'm holding my vote until I see what you guys have to say about what I posted. Also please if I skipped something important point it out...
Zexion
Also Ace, why did you took the time to look into other mafia game and not this one?
Ace Timing

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.
100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you
This post felt a little weird to me. Also how Jess told us to look at the QT from previous games when that seems like a bit of a waste.

I'm trying to think from the mafia point of view, and it seems like they want to get rid of all of the experienced players because they believe that with only newbs, it will be harder to find scum. I going to go ahead and take a gander at the makeup of the mafia. One experienced player and one newer player. This means that the schemes that the mafia comes up with will probably get more reckless after the more experienced player is lynched. The only experienced players left are Zexion, SNB, and Nyquill. Nyquill is who I'm primarily thinking of because he rarely contributes any thing, but always leaves posts that imply that he will.

Like here
these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.
and here
I'm back and I took a glance at things because I'm a little tired to do things right now. Will post in the morning.
And he seems to not like revealing things evidenced here
There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads.
I won't vote on just this just yet, but just I'll leave it here so that people won't say I'm not paying attention or something.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

I'm trying to think from the mafia point of view, and it seems like they want to get rid of all of the experienced players because they believe that with only newbs, it will be harder to find scum. I going to go ahead and take a gander at the makeup of the mafia. One experienced player and one newer player. This means that the schemes that the mafia comes up with will probably get more reckless after the more experienced player is lynched. The only experienced players left are Zexion, SNB, and Nyquill. Nyquill is who I'm primarily thinking of because he rarely contributes any thing, but always leaves posts that imply that he will.
That's kinda obvious isn't it? I can gather from there that we could actually be dealing with newbie scum too, since I haven't seen any gambits and stuff some pro scum players would do.

Also I agree with you, we need more input from Nyquill... why is no one else caring about the game anyways?
Ace Timing
It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.
-[Jess]-

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.
So how?

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Will post something more later

I am not awake
Birdy

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.
That's the worst part. There are currently still at least a dozen possible combinations and just like how we couldn't be sure with Slaini, I don't know what to believe or how to read anything any more.

I feel like I butchered the English language there. Sorry if that's somewhat weirdly written (it's 4:30am forgive me). Guess I'll/we'll wait for Nyquill and sit in silence.
Zexion

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.
That's the worst part. There are currently still at least a dozen possible combinations and just like how we couldn't be sure with Slaini, I don't know what to believe or how to read anything any more.

I feel like I butchered the English language there. Sorry if that's somewhat weirdly written (it's 4:30am forgive me). Guess I'll/we'll wait for Nyquill and sit in silence.
Why would you want for Nyquill instead of posting your own conclusions and stuff? That's not a reallly good approach considering our situation...

I think everyone here should post their reads and then we could actually do something.
Ace Timing
vote Nyquill
Birdy
Isn't that a bit rushed, Ace?

Also @Zexion I don't have reads or conclusions, I'm quite honestly lost like I stated in my previous post. You made some good points (about Jess) in your recent post but that's about it so far.
Birdy
We only need two votes for Nyquill lynch now, right. That means both of the scum may jump out of the bush any moment so you better take that vote off ASAP Ace.
Ace Timing
other than you and Zexion, Nyquill and Jess are the only ones left. No chance of jumping on this wagon.
Ace Timing
In fact, that could mean that SNB/Nyquill is the team we're looking at, because there's no way you could rationally as town say something like that.
Birdy
I'm just saying IF Zexion and Jess were the team, it'd be game over.
Ace Timing
I know that, I was just joking.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

vote Nyquill
This is rushed. We haven't even heard from Nyquill yet and you are voting him? Bad. Unvote ASAP.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Isn't that a bit rushed, Ace?

Also @Zexion I don't have reads or conclusions, I'm quite honestly lost like I stated in my previous post. You made some good points (about Jess) in your recent post but that's about it so far.
Then the only thing left to do its to discard your previous ideas, and begin too make your reads anew, don't you think? It's not really the time to give up.
Ace Timing
Besides, Zexion criticized my post earlier, so he's not going to just jump on the wagon now.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

I know that, I was just joking.
I don't get the joke.
Ace Timing
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