I'm seriously regretting that I went for the offensive N1. I forgot this post, shit p/4293681/

And seriously, why are we not lynching either Slaini or Zexion yet. p/4304790

I want to share my view now

Mafia kill In N1:

-Maybe they want to stop some useful information that will here in D2
-They think killing Navi is a trap
-they want to let others can't think in D2

sLaiNi wrote:

Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then )

You makes me feel hungry again.

sLaiNi wrote:

@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.

So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.

First of all: The mafia kills:

I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.

If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then )
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.

Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.

---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.

Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?

Well, either we're on the setup with no other PR or we have a 1 shot-Bp which doesn't make much sense in claiming.
Wait what, you want to lynch accepted towns? WTF? (bolded part) The rest is kinda obvious.

I can't shake the feeling Navi is helping scum someone while being town. SNB read below, Jess and Ace I haven't seen much other than small stuff but right now I have no drect stuff to say to them, tho they really seem to be slipping under the radar while everyone else focus on me...

When analyzing lynches look at the players interactions with others. As you now know the aligment of the player lots of them makes sense a lot more.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Fully aware. I'd be surprised if we were not lynching him today.

This is just rich. I've gone through your ISO and I'm not suprised to see your lack of recent contributions. All you have been doing is jumping on wagons because someone else wrote nice walls or just repeating old ideas. Care to tell me, in your own words and ideas, why I "reek of scum"? Honestly I don't reallly care about Navi since he's just misled (confirmed town and asdf) but you on the other hand sound much more scummy.

Vote: SNB

Also If I get lynched while I'm on college or away that would be top kek.

Navizel wrote:

I don't even know why I'm still alive. Everyone is null to me except Zexion, Slaini, and Jess. Zexion and Slaini are my main scumreads while Jess is a null-scum. Sakura was null-town but I don't know about Nyquill.
Hmm.. sometimes I feel like mafia are the newbies cause they left JK. However, that might mean there's a roleblocker in the mafia. I would like to add something here but I don't want to teach mafia.
One reason I can think of why mafia is composed of the newbies is they are intimidated by Drezi. Drezi is an 'experienced' player and newbies tend to get intimidated and they fear townies who can give information.

I can't sort out my thoughts smh. I have some speculations but I can't properly explain them.

To be honest, it's much safer to asume there's a roleblocker among mafia rather than just killing Drezi for talking too much. But as you say there's no way to confirm this as they are just ideas...

Navizel wrote:

Have any of you read Drezi and rEdo's ISOs? I feel like most of the people aren't talking about D1.

I've mentioned the Drezi/rEdo discussion already, did you guys just skip my post? Also yeah, its kinda surprising that no one else seems to be gathering info from the previous day, its like D1 all over again.

Navizel wrote:

I'm seriously regretting that I went for the offensive N1. I forgot this post, shit p/4293681/

And seriously, why are we not lynching either Slaini or Zexion yet. p/4304790

I don't really get the idea of the first post.

But the second one is just :facepalm:, not because you're confirmed town your reads are 100% correct, if you are really using that as a reason for pushing a lynch on me, I don't know what to think of your townplay anymore.

----------------

And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?

How in the hell have I jumped on wagons when I was the first to vote you today and explicitly did NOT jump on the rEdo wagon?

Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.

Zexion wrote:

And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?

Which post

Static Noise Bird wrote:

How in the hell have I jumped on wagons when I was the first to vote you today and explicitly did NOT jump on the rEdo wagon?

But you jumped on Slaini's one because reasons. You didn't contribute a single thing, and don't say its okay to do that when the person you're about to lynch isn't plain obvious. (i.e. a strong scumslip)

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.

I don't really care what you think of me as I think you're scum too. I've stated the reasons for the rEdo lynch many many times and I don't really see WHY you think I was just pushing it for my own intentions. Hika was scummy on her own, rEdo didn't help much either and that's why I helped Drezi with the wagon. If you still think the lynch was unjustified or it was just for my own reasons I really suggest you read the previous day with a little more consideration.

I did NOT push the lynch just because yes. Your tunnel vision isn't really helping at this point.

Ace Timing wrote:

Zexion wrote:

And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?

Which post

sLaiNi wrote:

@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.

So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.

First of all: The mafia kills:

I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.

If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then )
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.

Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.




---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.

Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?

And suddenly Slaini stopped existing for everyone else in this game after he was the potential D1 lynch. I don't know what to think. Is anyone here worried about finding scum, or do you plan to lynch me, see I flip town, and call it a day?

Also @Jess and @Ace I want to know what you think of SNB. Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?

Any lynch is justifiable if you try hard enough

Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.

Ace Timing wrote:

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?

Any lynch is justifiable if you try hard enough

It's obviously they're trying hard. I didn't ask that.

Navizel wrote:

Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.

Sure, Slaini may very well be scum, but my flip won't really help you in anything. (That is, if you're really town because your playstyle) How about you explain the reason why I "reek of scum" too?

Zexion wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.

Sure, Slaini may very well be scum, but my flip won't really help you in anything. (That is, if you're really town because your playstyle) How about you explain the reason why I "reek of scum" too?

one reason could be that you only appear when you're accused of something, or how you make walls of text that just say "look at X's ISO, they're really scummy" without actually citing anything. Another could be that you are often reluctant to change your vote on people. But then again those are just reasons.

@Zexion, the bolder part about Drezi being the most obvious "lynch" for being the most reputable towns was misswrote. I meant to say nightkill

Its 23:30 here. So I go to sleep. I will be more active tomorrow. Good night @ all

Vote Count 2.3

[2] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird, Navizel
[1] sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill, sLaiNi
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 4 days and 4 hours away.

Nyquill is V/LA until July 9th.

rip cb

Can't be bothered to explain what has already been explained.

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?

No.If you think that is justified.It is Justified : )

Also rip cb

rip everyone I guess'

I hope Nyquill can return soon.

I believe we're just waiting for a lynch to happen.

At least for me. Just waiting for either Slaini or Zexion to get lynched.

Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.

I'm back and I took a glance at things because I'm a little tired to do things right now. Will post in the morning.

Also everyone tossing the word "conf" around should prepare their anus.

On phone now, couldn't log in today. Will sleep then post in some hours.

well,i have nothing to say unit someone post a meaningful post

go to sleep now

-[Jess]- wrote:

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?

No.If you think that is justified.It is Justified : )

Also rip cb

I'm not saying its justified, I am asking you what you think about that. But since your vote is not on me, I can tell you don't quite buy it as navizel does.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.

Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!

-[Jess]- wrote:

well,i have nothing to say unit someone post a meaningful post

go to sleep now

You could make that meaningful post, right? Just sayin'. There's a lot of stuff to work with.

Zexion wrote:

Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!

lol yes that's exactly what I said, right

Like I stated before, it's tough to read him because he's acting like a newbie. I'm not exactly sure whether those are real newbie mistakes or "scumslips" covered up by stating that they are a newbie.

wait zexion, why are you putting SNB over slaini?

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.

besides posts like this that reek of bad

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.

I'm sad but at least we can agree on the bottom 2.

Navizel wrote:

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.

Hm, I'd be around

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.

SNB's reaction on Jess' potential scumslip was like getting onto the wagon before it really starts off. Then, when Ace goes of the wagon, she just jumps off without any comment and votes Zexion. Just my thoughts on this.

I can barely read anything of Ace. What makes me feel strange about him is when Jess' did these accusations on me and I defended me and he stated that it would be strange behavior to defend myself, as she would've only done this once (while she has done it multiple times). This seemed like he would defend the potential manipulation that Jess did there IMO.

Honestly, I don't read a lot of scum from Zexion. He gives good points for the progression and tries to analyze every player (except Nyquill until now o.O) without using small scumslips or something like that to push a wagon on them. But besides of that, I can't read a lot of town from him either. He is rather null now.

I have to make some thoughts on Nyquill first. As she is Sakuras successor I read her townish, but I search for some parallels between her and Sakura's behavior.

Navizel probably is jailkeeper, so no need to talk about him then.

Very late here (midnight), I go to sleep now.

Navizel wrote:

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.

Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?

sLaiNi wrote:

Hm, I'd be around

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

You're hilarious. Seriously though, don't kid yourself, you are at the minimum second on that list.

sLaiNi wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.

Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?

Well Ace is really difficult to read, as he entered the game late, and with a really odd post that almost got him lynched. He successfully defended himself, and that seems so have earned him some town cred, but its really hard to get any sort of hold on him because he's really enigmatic (try reassembling the letters in his name) and plays his cards close to his chest. His playstyle is very similar to Hika's but he seems to know when to quit while he's ahead and show his cards in the face of an imminent lynch. A good place for him would be null, but its hard to ascertain his alignment.

:^)

Vote Count 2.4

[2] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird, Navizel
[1] sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill, sLaiNi
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 2 days and 2 hours away.

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

funny guy

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.

where did she did this?

Honestly, I don't read a lot of scum from Zexion. He gives good points for the progression and tries to analyze every player (except Nyquill until now o.O) without using small scumslips or something like that to push a wagon on them. But besides of that, I can't read a lot of town from him either. He is rather null now.

Are you sure? You seem to be misunderstanding his wall of texts.

Navizel probably is jailkeeper, so no need to talk about him then.

lol. So you're just ok with my claim being uncertain to you. Okay then/

So basically you guys tell me, I should read myself as scum While I Know for MYSELF that i am Not? That were my reads people and not what I think others see in them. I mean like seriously, no-one would say "I read myself as scum, because others say I am, despite the fact that I know for MYSELF that I'm not, but others tell Me I am, so they must be right. CB was trolling me for sure with this PM".


I just don't get you twos way of thinking on that one.



PS: Ace defending himself while I just asked someone for reds as I can't read him which made me put him kinda null on my list. Funny guy

@Navi

In what way am I missunderstanding them?


And I'm not uncertain of you claim in a way like "He's definitely not PR", rather that I trust you as long as no-one CCs. It was kinda strange that you didn't get killed, but a Strongarm would explain this, including the fact that a 1shotbp wouldnt have any reasons to reveal himself. Also scum might've thought we'd follow Sakuras assumption "If he doesn't get killed we'l lynch him tomorrow". If that's the case, they failed.

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Could you explain what you read in Ace, as It's really hard for me to get any conclusion on him?

Well Ace is really difficult to read, as he entered the game late, and with a really odd post that almost got him lynched. He successfully defended himself, and that seems so have earned him some town cred, but its really hard to get any sort of hold on him because he's really enigmatic (try reassembling the letters in his name) and plays his cards close to his chest. His playstyle is very similar to Hika's but he seems to know when to quit while he's ahead and show his cards in the face of an imminent lynch. A good place for him would be null, but its hard to ascertain his alignment.

:^)

That Text seems actually quite fitting I guess o.O

I wrote the two posts above roughly 5 minutes after waking up. So they were kinda halfhearted (is this even an English phrase like in German o.O) written

sLaiNi wrote:

So they were kinda halfhearted (is this even an English phrase like in German o.O) written

Yes it is and it's used correctly here.

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So they were kinda halfhearted (is this even an English phrase like in German o.O) written

Yes it is and it's used correctly here.

You seem to be in a very good mood today I guess ^^

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)

hmm....Why don't you vote me?

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.

How?
i never share them?

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Zexion wrote:

Oh yeah? Why is that? What has Slaini done that he's town now? You were strongly scumreading him D1 and now all of a sudden he's town!

lol yes that's exactly what I said, right

Like I stated before, it's tough to read him because he's acting like a newbie. I'm not exactly sure whether those are real newbie mistakes or "scumslips" covered up by stating that they are a newbie.

There are two options in the game: town or scum. If you're not sure about one, then you're claiming the other. Don't play dumb.

Oh, but of course I'm conf-scum so you're going to completly disregard anything I say. That's so town.

Nyquill wrote:

wait zexion, why are you putting SNB over slaini?

SNB's attitude has been just joining wagons without any new reasons and come on, just acussing me of scum because I pressed the rEdo lynch is hardly a reason to call me "conf-scum". Being that desperate is just looking for any reason to lynch and makes me really wary.

Now about Slaini, I've seen actually doing stuff in this day and honestly I don't see other reason to lynch him rather that he could be "newb-scum". Unless I'm actually missing a strong reason...

Navizel wrote:

Scum to town

Zexion>Slaini>SNB>Jess>Ace>Nyquill>Navizel

Discuss.

How is Jess close to town if she has barely contributed at all? Also I'm curious about why you read Ace as so town. So yeah, please explain those two.

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)

hmm....Why don't you vote me?

^

----------------------

Also @Ace I'm not going to read a post ending with this ":^)" so please avoid meme-writing and get serious.

Let's try to keep the game alive ppl. You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.

How is Jess close to town if she has barely contributed at all? Also I'm curious about why you read Ace as so town. So yeah, please explain those two.

Not really. It's just that compared to others, they are less scummy.

You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.

soft claiming huh

Okay, let's go back to my original vote. Vote: Slaini

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

(not saying that people farther left are 100% scum, rather that if someone asked me to instantly lynch someone I would go by this order)

hmm....Why don't you vote me?

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.

How?
i never share them?

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

Zexion wrote:

Also @Ace I'm not going to read a post ending with this ":^)" so please avoid meme-writing and get serious.

That post was me analyzing myself as Slaini asked Navizel what he read on me, no memes are even in that paragraph.

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you

Navizel wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you

That was the kind of thing I was waiting for, another hop on something really small as I stated before.

Vote: -[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.

You totally don't get it.

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.

Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.

*your sentense

Slaini wrote:

Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.

You're just looking guilty. Stop it. That's totally not what I was implying. Bolded is a funny line. hahahahaha

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Why not Ace exactly?

Navizel wrote:

Slaini wrote:

Just me getting a bit mad at your argumentation, as you made you sentence sound like I am 100% conf scum and you are just searching for some kind of interaction to find my potential scumpartner before getting me lynched lawl.

You're just looking guilty. Stop it. That's totally not what I was implying. Bolded is a funny line. hahahahaha

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Why not Ace exactly?

Why not Navizel?

hahahahhaahhahahahahaha omg this is a funny game xDDDD

sLaiNi wrote:

That was the kind of thing I was waiting for, another hop on something really small as I stated before.

Vote: -[Jess]-

Nice twist bro

Slaini wrote:

Jess>SNB>Ace>Zexion>Nyquill>Navizel>Me

What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Why not Ace exactly?[/quote]

Why not Navizel?[/quote]

XD

Vote Count 2.5

[b][2]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[1] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 15.5 hours away from now.

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.

That jab lol

sLaiNi wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Why not Ace exactly?

Why not Navizel?

I laughed here, you're embarrassing yourself lol.

Is this the start of the long awaited Slaini train?

If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?

sLaiNi wrote:

If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?

That situation would be called MyLo or Mislynch-and-Lose so yeah I guess.

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

If I understand it correctly, if we lynch a townie today, it would be 3 towns vs 2 scum tomorrow, meaning that the following two day lynches would have to be correct, otherwise towns looses 100%?

That situation would be called MyLo or Mislynch-and-Lose so yeah I guess.

Ah thanks

We're in MyLo if we're thinking pessimistically. We do have a potential jailkeeper (given that Navi's claim was honest) and 1-shot BP (if the matrix is in our favour).

If we were to think optimistically, let's just lynch the correct person today and none of the value will be lost.

Also shit I'm feeling dizzy from night longboarding and movie marathon, I'll be back before the deadline though.

LyLo actually. In MyLo, we can still no lynch. If we did that, scum will just kill someone at night and then that's game.

3 town vs 2 mafia
no lynch d3
maf kills
2 town vs 2 mafia
mafia makes up half of the players
mafia wins, town gets endgamed

Oh yeah, that makes sense. I keep forgetting the difference between those terms.

Navizel wrote:

You will not like me getting lynched (except for two individuals), and this inactivity is just hurting the game.

soft claiming huh

That's up to you to decide. Sounding familiar?

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you

Just curious here, voting here for OMGUS reasons or there's actually something else I'm missing?

It would be pretty interesting if this was actually bussing...

Navizel wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them. What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Stop acting like Zexion. Stop misinterpreting my words. Stop twisting my words.

This is not directed towards me, and I do not intent to defend Slaini, but what do you mean "acting like me"? Your accusations aren't clear enough therefore misunderstanding is possible, (therefore you could end "twisting someone's words") maybe you could explain in detail what did he twist here so everyone can understand your actions?

Navizel wrote:

You totally don't get it.

Kinda my point.

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Also everyone:

We lynch scum: Nothing. (4 town, 1 scum). If we lynch town then: 2 town 1 scum, LyLo.
We lynch town: LyLo (3 town, 2 scum). If we lynch scum then: 2 town 1 scum, LyLo.

Both are asumming scum sucessfuly kill someone every night.

Slaini was answering my questions with another question. Just like what you did before.

Slaini's

What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Why not Navizel?

too lazy to search Zexion's ISO for similar posts.

Redirecting as well

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them.

Those examples are not how you disprove a point.

Navizel wrote:

Slaini was answering my questions with another question. Just like what you did before.

Slaini's

What about Nyquill, didn't vote him/her too.

Why not Navizel?

too lazy to search Zexion's ISO for similar posts.

Redirecting as well

So Zexion was my scumpartner yesterday because I didn't vote him, today it are Jess and SNB for not voting them.

Those examples are not how you disprove a point.

Disproving is one thing, but the point has to be viable in some sort. If I (ignoring the fact of your claim) would accuse you of being scum together with Jess, how would you disprove it?

(Rather a learning question if you are so sure about my "Why not Nyquill" counterquestion being invalid)

I don't understand what you're saying.

Vote Count 2.6

[2]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[1] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 4.5 hours away from now.

guyssss

hey what's up

I'm going to be surprised whatever Slaini flips. Guess we now have time only to hope and see.

Just a reminder that someone needs to be at 3 votes for plurality lynch to activate this day.

Shit. Should I?

Unless you want to no lynch.

I certainly do not. It's just bad that he's such a hazy target due to the, well, hazy and (especially formerly) newbieful posts.

Vote: Slaini

Should I be saying "don't hammer guys" right about now?

Considering there's pretty much no time left until twilight/night, sure.

Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.

Navizel wrote:

Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.

Yeah he said in the case of rEdo flipping scum, Nyquil/Sakura would be the likely scumpal.

Vote Count 2.7

[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is -0.25 hours away from now.

Oops.

sLaiNi, Town Vanilla, has been lynched day two.

It is now Night two. Deadline is July 14th, 10:15PM CST (GMT-6). This is exactly 48 hours from now.

Shenanigans are afoot. Maybe. Kind of? Who knows?

Navizel, Town Jailkeeper, has been killed night two.

It is now Day Three. Deadline is July 19th, 11:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is slightly less than five days from now.

Vote Count 3.1

[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Nyquill, Static Noise Bird, Zexion
With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

Deadline is July 19th at 11:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 120 hours away from now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

._.

And I like it said with 7 alive in the vote count

these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.

Huh, Slaini's flip doesn't really come to surprise me. Hey people, not because you're new that means you're scum.

As you probably know, we're on LyLo right now which means if we mislynch is pretty much over for town. Please be careful with your votes.

I'm going to read a bit before posting anything else.

Right, so Slaini got lynched because his newbie attitude and previous "scumslips", was that really enough for a reason to lynch him?

Here's my post-lynch anaylsis. My very first one!

Amianki wrote:

Vote Count 2.7

[3]sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel, Static Noise Bird [L-1]
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Zexion --

[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

So I'm willing to bet there's at least one scum on Slaini's wagon. After all, if that didn't happen we wouldn't be at LyLo. Tho Ace not voting makes me somewhat insecure of pinning scum in either SNB or Jess. Then again I haven't seen much input from Nyquill to make sure they are really town... Sakura didn't exactly gave me a strong town vibe. Also Navi's last post seem like this could be more important.

Navizel wrote:

Just in case I die tonight..

If Slaini flipped scum, his partner should be SNB.
There's a chance that Nyquill is scum too. Check Drezi's ISO for his Sakura inputs. I think he mentioned something about Sakura before he died.

Because this too.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

I certainly do not. It's just bad that he's such a hazy target due to the, well, hazy and (especially formerly) newbieful posts.

Vote: Slaini

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.

SNB did hesitate on lynching Slaini. This makes me feel uneasy about her being scum, because I guess any scum player would have used the chance inmediatly to get a mislynch... SNB did end up voting Slaini, so maybe she wanted the approach to be as town as possible...?

But then again I was "conf-scum" to her, yet she ended up changing her vote just so we ended up lynching someone.

Now about Jess:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess is jumping on wagons where she can. Also, you did some sort of "reaction test on me". What were your results, you only stated that your strange accusations (?) where tests and that you got informations out of it, but you never shared them. I still interprete them as some sort of manipulation. All in all your actions seem like you try to are searching for anything to just hold onto it.

This was actually an useful post I ignored. Going through Jess' ISO just show her doing small things here and there and just jumping into wagons. She was Slaini's #1 scumread (not saying this confirms anything) but as soon he accuses Jess:

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you

This vote post disturbs me. Seems like Jess got really aggresive at this point because Slaini pointed her as scum. A desperate attempt of pinning the blame on him so she wouldn't get any votes?

Navizel wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if Slaini's partner is either Jess or SNB. Slaini's not even voting either of the two. He maybe added the other one for potential mislynch.

Well, Slaini wasn't scum... so if we take the newbie thing that would mean he was just scared of voting someone because what others could have said about the vote. At least that's what I felt on my first game.

rEdo wrote:

lmao I'm actually eating the rope

I want you to lynch somebody from {Drezi, sLaiNi, Zexion} tomorrow. Either works, to be honest. I already stated my logic on sLaiNi-Zexion, Drezi just sucks balls.

Also please note that this entire post is wrong. Reminder that being confirmed town doesn't make your reads 100% accuarate. (I'm taking the same approach on Slaini)

Nyquill wrote:

these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.

Please do it a ASAP. We do need more stuff coming from you, since you were V/LA for almost all of D2.

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Sorry that my ideas are kinda messy right now, I have a reason to suspect everyone at this point. I would go for a SNB or Jess lynch at this point, but SNB actually gives me town vibes due to her hesitation in lynching Slaini... seems like a town attitude. (But it doesn't go very well with her words) I'm holding my vote until I see what you guys have to say about what I posted. Also please if I skipped something important point it out...

Also Ace, why did you took the time to look into other mafia game and not this one?

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Not sure wether to take you or SNB right now.

100% scum confirm.
I have nothing to say you are town anymore.
Your words has betray you

This post felt a little weird to me. Also how Jess told us to look at the QT from previous games when that seems like a bit of a waste.

I'm trying to think from the mafia point of view, and it seems like they want to get rid of all of the experienced players because they believe that with only newbs, it will be harder to find scum. I going to go ahead and take a gander at the makeup of the mafia. One experienced player and one newer player. This means that the schemes that the mafia comes up with will probably get more reckless after the more experienced player is lynched. The only experienced players left are Zexion, SNB, and Nyquill. Nyquill is who I'm primarily thinking of because he rarely contributes any thing, but always leaves posts that imply that he will.

Like here

these newbie games are actually too confusing.

I'm going to recollect my thoughts.

and here

I'm back and I took a glance at things because I'm a little tired to do things right now. Will post in the morning.

And he seems to not like revealing things evidenced here

There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads.

I won't vote on just this just yet, but just I'll leave it here so that people won't say I'm not paying attention or something.

Ace Timing wrote:

I'm trying to think from the mafia point of view, and it seems like they want to get rid of all of the experienced players because they believe that with only newbs, it will be harder to find scum. I going to go ahead and take a gander at the makeup of the mafia. One experienced player and one newer player. This means that the schemes that the mafia comes up with will probably get more reckless after the more experienced player is lynched. The only experienced players left are Zexion, SNB, and Nyquill. Nyquill is who I'm primarily thinking of because he rarely contributes any thing, but always leaves posts that imply that he will.

That's kinda obvious isn't it? I can gather from there that we could actually be dealing with newbie scum too, since I haven't seen any gambits and stuff some pro scum players would do.

Also I agree with you, we need more input from Nyquill... why is no one else caring about the game anyways?

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.

So how?

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Will post something more later

I am not awake

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.

That's the worst part. There are currently still at least a dozen possible combinations and just like how we couldn't be sure with Slaini, I don't know what to believe or how to read anything any more.

I feel like I butchered the English language there. Sorry if that's somewhat weirdly written (it's 4:30am forgive me). Guess I'll/we'll wait for Nyquill and sit in silence.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

It might even be two experienced players acting like newb players to confuse us. So there's some WIFOM for everyone.

Mafia so dead.

That's the worst part. There are currently still at least a dozen possible combinations and just like how we couldn't be sure with Slaini, I don't know what to believe or how to read anything any more.

I feel like I butchered the English language there. Sorry if that's somewhat weirdly written (it's 4:30am forgive me). Guess I'll/we'll wait for Nyquill and sit in silence.

Why would you want for Nyquill instead of posting your own conclusions and stuff? That's not a reallly good approach considering our situation...

I think everyone here should post their reads and then we could actually do something.