actually, I'm entirely overthinking this
Sakura wrote:
A trap has been activated!
Trap has failed, Target got no cards to discard.
this trap was not activated because of a card. if it was, Sakura would have confirmed a card was used. this trap must have been activated because of an ability. mod can confirm both of these things (confirming card usage and traps being able to be activated via abilities).
the trap was necessarily placed on Irre. it couldn't have been Ank since mod confirmed Ank placed a trap card after this, and I have LDS (even if you believe I'm lying about having it, I have to have at least *some* card unless there exists a way I could have played one without mod revealing it, which I don't *think* exists).
it follows that
1. Irre had
no cards at daystart. not even the one you usually draw when day starts. how is this possible? the only way is that he lied and
used Passionate Research last night - if you
go back and look, that
replaces the card you draw at daystart with another hyper shot.
2. Irre is thus lying about having used Nice Jingle, since he couldn't have had any cards. you will notice that mod never actually confirmed a card was used today - and, conveniently, he "used" it in private instead of declaring it in thread. as I said before, mod can confirm that if Irre had used a card she would have announced that a card was used in thread.
there is a _lot_ more (I have a huge wall typed up that I was going to post instead of this, then I asked the mod about some specific role interactions and got this as a result. either way Irre is lying about at least one thing), but as just one point, from my POV the trap necessarily was activated because Irre used a hyper ability (from an outside POV there is technically a chance I'm lying about my hyper and I targeted Irre with it, however I know 1. my hyper is night-only, 2. my hyper is random which would have made it a complete crapshoot). there's nothing else that could have done it unless Irre lied about what his passive ability was or if Ank did something, but I don't believe he's faking his hyper and he couldn't have used it on Irre as Irre had been KO'ed on N1.
everything after this is speculation, but one more thing: I think he was responsible for the GIF kill D2, and thus didn't claim a hyper bc he couldn't claim his *actual* hyper and didn't know what else he could claim
this would explain why he would have used Passionate Research: if he gets another daykill he wins immediately. I also think that it's limited to players who are KO'ed - which would explain why he didn't just use it immediately at daystart today (there were no viable targets). I alluded to this before, but when Sakura does setups in this way she usually allows for slight modifications in roles depending on what alignment they are. I don't really see Sakura putting "this person has ability X if town, and is a GF if scum"; what *does* make sense? "this person can daykill a KO'ed player if town, and can daykill a KO'ed player in place of the next night's NK if scum".
either way, Irre is at the very least lying about card usage and not having a hyper
@Ank: I'm at the point where I'm ready to vote unless Irre has an explanation for this. if you need anything else from me, or if I screwed my logic up somewhere, ask. either way I'm almost positive Irre is lying about at least one thing somewhere in here bc a lot of things about this game don't add up with the claims so far. from the (admittedly limited) rereading I did, I also think you're more likely to be town here due mostly to recent play (Irre has primarily floated through and done for the most part nothing the past few game days).
