Very helpful for mappers, thanks. Since a lot of new BNs got nominated (and red titles got removed as well), its pretty useful for ppl who cant keep up who is new in BN team, especially in mania.
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I'd like to see at least some order in the list though (sorry for being picky) like alphabetically, and really separate the mania BNs from those who "do some mania, but main another mode", since usually those BNs don't particularly take requests or anything of the such much at all, compared to the other normal mania BNs..
And to be honest I'm surprised half of them threads Drace mentioned aren't stickied since I've come across all of them at least once and some have indeed helped me quite a lot (speaking as a player here.)
And to be honest I'm surprised half of them threads Drace mentioned aren't stickied since I've come across all of them at least once and some have indeed helped me quite a lot (speaking as a player here.)
I have sorted the list alphabetically and moved the two BNs (who also focuses on another mode) to another list.
I guess it's time to update this~
But I don't have the list of new mania BNs ;-;
But I don't have the list of new mania BNs ;-;
Harbyter shionelove Zan - [Shana Lesus] _S u w a k o_ [GraceChaos] [Ayanotatemaya] RuberusuScarlet
tfw didn't point out based god Z3nx
Woah, nice list baraatje123 ~ <3
well, then, good luck for all ~
probably cant sure, not much things is more are good! but ... dont mind at itbakabakemono wrote:
so many BN = so many ranked maps
well, then, good luck for all ~
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Can a moderator please add the new BN (congratz to those BTW)
It's kinda hard adding them if you have no access to PC ;-;
It's kinda hard adding them if you have no access to PC ;-;
he can also bubble mania (the other day I see it at his userpage)
nvm he osu!alumni ;-;
edit : no _S u w a k o_ ? shionelove ?
Updated.
add Roxas as QAT please 
also, sir Loctav could handle mania stuffs too.. just saying.. :3
i agree~ExUsagi wrote:
also, sir Loctav could handle mania stuffs too.. just saying.. :3
That's true but he isn't specifically a Beatmap Nominator or osu!mania specific QAT anymore, so I see no point of putting him on this list.
Blocko is now a BN who mods mania.
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Updated, so much O!M BN
Also, Stefan/Nath, thanks for updating it :3
Also, Stefan/Nath, thanks for updating it :3
mania BN has their own keymode speciality, i guess it's gonna be more useful for mapper if they know which BN that focus at which keymode..
i myself able to check 4K - 8K keymode.. idk with the other BNs
i myself able to check 4K - 8K keymode.. idk with the other BNs
ExUsagi wrote:
mania BN has their own keymode speciality, i guess it's gonna be more useful for mapper if they know which BN that focus at which keymode..
i myself able to check 4K - 8K keymode.. idk with the other BNs
good idea
4k~8k for me
correction, im not any longer checking 4K map for BN check.. so it's 5K - 8K... hue
add Alumni member ? (as in the taiko and ctb)
4K and 6KExUsagi wrote:
mania BN has their own keymode speciality, i guess it's gonna be more useful for mapper if they know which BN that focus at which keymode..
i myself able to check 4K - 8K keymode.. idk with the other BNs
I think some BN here got removed recently.
Rumia and Sakura
Updated. Please let me know if someone needs to be added or removed at the list.
You can PM me the updated contents so I can simply copy and paste it there.
You can PM me the updated contents so I can simply copy and paste it there.
maybe add Julie -chan ? :3
She said to me her hand is full of taiko atm. But soon i think she would at mania as well ahah
She said to me her hand is full of taiko atm. But soon i think she would at mania as well ahah
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Add Julie to "osu!mania Beatmap Nominators who also focuses at another mode" then
Updated.
name change for me woops
you change that thing at least twice a year lol
ok oko oko k ok o ko kok ok ok okoOkoratu wrote:
you change that thing at least twice a year lol
[ S a k u r a ] wrote:
Called it 2 months ago, it just had to happen at some point. Gratz man, you deserve it!
done.
Starry- finally QAT <3
Congratulations Starry (>w<)b
But please edit here too:
Congratulations Starry (>w<)b
But please edit here too:
rofl ok
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Lol
I never got an email about new replies >_<
Thanks ExPew for updating it all
I never got an email about new replies >_<
Thanks ExPew for updating it all
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Updated it with the looks of the Taiko/CtB list, also made a link to them and added the Alumnis
I'm not sure about any missing alumnis >_<
I'm not sure about any missing alumnis >_<
andy lee? roxas?
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Added
Any more missing?
Any more missing?
add [Shi-Ra] as QAT please
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ShiRa is back?
CONGRATZ!!!
CONGRATZ!!!
mania has hope
haha jk
haha jk
Added.
h o l y s h i t
wb Shiren o/
wb Shiren o/
here comes the puns-Kamikaze- wrote:
h o l y s h i t
wb Shiren o/
actually wasn't intended but ok
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Apparently ExUsagi also mods taiko
Added him to "Also focuses on other mode"
Added him to "Also focuses on other mode"
DJ Profetti
i seesheela901 wrote:
No, Simple_Star has changed his name to Bruce.
Bruce star owo
Spy 
Spy
SpyQATs moved to osu!alumni
Shi-Ra
Spy
thank you for your hardwork contributing osu!mania
Shi-Ra
Spy
thank you for your hardwork contributing osu!mania
Topic Starter
Thanks for everything ShiRa!
And Spy too ofcourse :3
Who edited the post btw?
Spy's and ShiRa's 'link' link to DJPop's profile
And Spy too ofcourse :3
Who edited the post btw?
Spy's and ShiRa's 'link' link to DJPop's profile
my mistake ahahaha
fixed.
fixed.
rip 
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Updated
Topic Starter
Updated list, as marirose and shionelove were removed
Someone please add raika on the list
Topic Starter
He is already there, if you mean LordRaika
Ok sorry I'm high
Don't forget to add KawaEE too.
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Updated
Nice trySpectorDG wrote:
maybe it's .... Evening
Harbyter very awesome BN he canVerniy_Chan wrote:
Harbyter the next QAT ! maybe :3SpectorDG wrote:
maybe it's .... Evening
Actually next BN _FrEsH_ChICkEn_ because he's very pro modding and awesome map style :3
I think liaoxingyao will be QAT
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh[ S a k u r a ] wrote:
I think liaoxingyao will be QAT
If harby got the time yeah, he probably is going to do some good QAT job 
can't really tell if you're joking or not
can't tell if I can req to those BN because they like
"mod/bub/qual/rank stat = busy"
"mod/bub/qual/rank stat = busy"
Archer pliss ....ArcherLove wrote:
can't tell if I can req to those BN because they like
"mod/bub/qual/rank stat = busy"
YatsuKaori
Ok, from my personal perspective, these are the most potential people that should be BNs. Some of them are inactive but I'm sure they could be a BN if they're active enough in modding. I don't give a damn if you don't agree with this list, I'm just stating my opinion.
Fixed for yapuxtu wrote:
Ok, from my personal perspective, these are the most potential people that should be BNs. Some of them are inactive but I'm sure they could be a BN if they're active enough in modding. I don't give a damn if you don't agree with this list, I'm just stating my opinion.
Well I agree with puxtu's list
Idk if I am good enough to become a BN too
Idk if I am good enough to become a BN too
While I do appreciate being added to your list, there is still a formal process that needs to be done to get to being a beatmap nominator. That's not to say that I agree with it, but the fact of the matter is that there is a formalized process to become a beatmap nominator and getting through it is something that I don't see myself doing anytime soon.
However, the real reason that I am making this post is that you are implicitly insulting any beatmap nominators that are not on your list: I understand that you don't "give a damn", but others that have the beatmap nominator have taken the time to go through the process and were cleared by other staff, and leaving them out in an effort to say that they don't belong/shouldn't be there is not something that you, or anyone else should ever be doing. Yes, you're entitled to have an opinion, but if your opinion is going to be a subtle, passive-aggressive attack on those who are not on this list, you're doing things wrong and probably should stop.
However, the real reason that I am making this post is that you are implicitly insulting any beatmap nominators that are not on your list: I understand that you don't "give a damn", but others that have the beatmap nominator have taken the time to go through the process and were cleared by other staff, and leaving them out in an effort to say that they don't belong/shouldn't be there is not something that you, or anyone else should ever be doing. Yes, you're entitled to have an opinion, but if your opinion is going to be a subtle, passive-aggressive attack on those who are not on this list, you're doing things wrong and probably should stop.
To be fair though, that process selects out many people (like yourself) who don't (for whatever reason) follow it. You could argue that anyone unwilling to go through the process is already unfit, but I would disagree because that process has no bearing on how well someone actually understands beatmapping. The process is effectively selecting people for their activity, rather than their knowledge or quality of mods (beyond the basic requirements for a mod to be considered a mod). Not only does it neglect to take into account actual knowledge, but it puts a primary focus on quantity over quality, which is not particularly helpful.
In the early days, the problem was that the few experienced mappers we had ran into difficulty getting their maps ranked for one reason or another. That issue is beginning to disappear (although it's still present, it's not as bad as it once was) and now we've reached a point where I think it's important to be a bit more picky about things. Unfortunately, the current process prioritizes people who are very active, rather than people who may be less active, but have greater expertise in mapping. By focusing on mappers who are very active, the system will ensure that more maps are nominated, but of those nominated maps, more of them will be of lower quality because of the lack of actual expertise in the BN group.
I'm not saying all the current BNs are bad, or anything to that effect. I'm simply saying that there are mappers out there with greater experience and knowledge than many of the current BNs who are selected out because of how the process focuses on quantity as a large factor.
In the early days, the problem was that the few experienced mappers we had ran into difficulty getting their maps ranked for one reason or another. That issue is beginning to disappear (although it's still present, it's not as bad as it once was) and now we've reached a point where I think it's important to be a bit more picky about things. Unfortunately, the current process prioritizes people who are very active, rather than people who may be less active, but have greater expertise in mapping. By focusing on mappers who are very active, the system will ensure that more maps are nominated, but of those nominated maps, more of them will be of lower quality because of the lack of actual expertise in the BN group.
I'm not saying all the current BNs are bad, or anything to that effect. I'm simply saying that there are mappers out there with greater experience and knowledge than many of the current BNs who are selected out because of how the process focuses on quantity as a large factor.
And no one notice mepuxtu wrote:
Ok, from my personal perspective, these are the most potential people that should be BNs. Some of them are inactive but I'm sure they could be a BN if they're active enough in modding. I don't give a damn if you don't agree with this list, I'm just stating my opinion.
Why forgot _FrEsH_ChICkEn_ ???puxtu wrote:
puxtu wrote:
Ok, from my personal perspective, these are the most potential people that should be BNs. Some of them are inactive but I'm sure they could be a BN if they're active enough in modding. I don't give a damn if you don't agree with this list, I'm just stating my opinion.
Whoa who said anything about replacing the old bns with these people on my list? I just think that we need more new bns, and I highly recommended these guys, no less, no more. And about the current bns, I think they are cool for me and I don't think they should leave.Halogen- wrote:
However, the real reason that I am making this post is that you are implicitly insulting any beatmap nominators that are not on your list: I understand that you don't "give a damn", but others that have the beatmap nominator have taken the time to go through the process and were cleared by other staff, and leaving them out in an effort to say that they don't belong/shouldn't be there is not something that you, or anyone else should ever be doing. Yes, you're entitled to have an opinion, but if your opinion is going to be a subtle, passive-aggressive attack on those who are not on this list, you're doing things wrong and probably should stop.
yeah I do understand some people don't want to go through all the process. But if only these guys are active enough in modding activities, I believe they could be a good BN and brings the community to the better future.Bobbias wrote:
To be fair though, that process selects out many people (like yourself) who don't (for whatever reason) follow it. You could argue that anyone unwilling to go through the process is already unfit, but I would disagree because that process has no bearing on how well someone actually understands beatmapping. The process is effectively selecting people for their activity, rather than their knowledge or quality of mods (beyond the basic requirements for a mod to be considered a mod). Not only does it neglect to take into account actual knowledge, but it puts a primary focus on quantity over quality, which is not particularly helpful.
All puxtu is doing is suggesting new BNs for the list of 14 we have at the moment, picking people with beatmap skill and expertise over activity. Simple as.Halogen- wrote:
leaving them out in an effort to say that they don't belong/shouldn't be there is not something that you, or anyone else should ever be doing. Yes, you're entitled to have an opinion, but if your opinion is going to be a subtle, passive-aggressive attack on those who are not on this list, you're doing things wrong and probably should stop.
Exactly.Hydria wrote:
All puxtu is doing is suggesting new BNs for the list of 14 we have at the moment, picking people with beatmap skill and expertise over activity. Simple as.
If you guys (the ones on puxtu's list) don't want to be BN, then you could've just said so.
Instead of "blah blah blah" here, then "blah blah blah" there, then there wouldn't be any more arguments for this.
It's like girls doing their movie called "World War III", no offense.
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Don't look past puxtu's intentions and take him out of context. He's not trying to make ad hominems, and you shouldn't too.
Case in point: Your allegation of him implicitly attacking some BNs.
I understand your point; you feel as if pux's post is a little insensitive, and I do agree with you that the way pux placed forth his opinion is a little offensive.
When it comes to skill and opinions about skill, it's an extremely touchy subject. Opinions about other player's skill are extremely hard to voice out without having to look like a complete douche to everybody else. Maybe that's why pux mentioned that "he wouldnt care what you think", because he was trying to avoid the storm it would cause.
I know how pux's post can and may make some people feel as if their achievements aren't enough/recognized. To these people, I say this: We have made stone the fact that you are working extremely hard, yeah? So rather than getting angry at either yourself, pux or similar people voicing their opinions, or even both of these options, why don't you start to improve on yourself? Don't take this the wrong way, I'm pretty sure everybody is hellbent on improving on themselves, but maybe there's something you are missing? Turning the negative into a motivation that drives you to the positive is a very, very good practice, and it also helps with dealing with criticisms, whether the criticism is constructive or not, or whether it is harsh or indirect.
TL;DR:
pux's intention wasn't to hurt, it was to provide feedback. And those whom are offended by the posts shouldn't take it to heart nor should they let it affect them negatively too much.
On closing, I have to reiterate one thing: BNs, or anyone who works their ass off to improve this game, seriously. Thank you for working your ass off to improve our experience playing this game. You have my respect, for sure, whomever you are.
Don't look past puxtu's intentions and take him out of context. He's not trying to make ad hominems, and you shouldn't too.
Case in point: Your allegation of him implicitly attacking some BNs.
OK, so there's no dispute here. BN qualifications are extremely tight, and you and I and everybody else is clear on this. However, there's something I don't understand by deducing what you said on the next paragraph.Halogen- wrote:
there is still a formal process that needs to be done to get to being a beatmap nominator. That's not to say that I agree with it, but the fact of the matter is that there is a formalized process to become a beatmap nominator and getting through it is something that I don't see myself doing anytime soon.
You said it yourself; the position of a BN is extremely reverend, and it takes a lot of effort and work to actually obtain the title. But suddenly, you mention that pux's post is implicitly insulting their work even though you say that they put in a lot of effort in all that they do. Shouldn't the BNs themselves already have a level of self-respect and confidence, especially when they go through so much to obtain the title that they now carry? Why would pux's opinion affect their confidence/offend them when everybody can agree that they deserve a huge load of respect?Halogen- wrote:
but others that have the beatmap nominator have taken the time to go through the process and were cleared by other staff, and leaving them out in an effort to say that they don't belong/shouldn't be there is not something that you, or anyone else should ever be doing.
I understand your point; you feel as if pux's post is a little insensitive, and I do agree with you that the way pux placed forth his opinion is a little offensive.
When it comes to skill and opinions about skill, it's an extremely touchy subject. Opinions about other player's skill are extremely hard to voice out without having to look like a complete douche to everybody else. Maybe that's why pux mentioned that "he wouldnt care what you think", because he was trying to avoid the storm it would cause.
I know how pux's post can and may make some people feel as if their achievements aren't enough/recognized. To these people, I say this: We have made stone the fact that you are working extremely hard, yeah? So rather than getting angry at either yourself, pux or similar people voicing their opinions, or even both of these options, why don't you start to improve on yourself? Don't take this the wrong way, I'm pretty sure everybody is hellbent on improving on themselves, but maybe there's something you are missing? Turning the negative into a motivation that drives you to the positive is a very, very good practice, and it also helps with dealing with criticisms, whether the criticism is constructive or not, or whether it is harsh or indirect.
TL;DR:
pux's intention wasn't to hurt, it was to provide feedback. And those whom are offended by the posts shouldn't take it to heart nor should they let it affect them negatively too much.
On closing, I have to reiterate one thing: BNs, or anyone who works their ass off to improve this game, seriously. Thank you for working your ass off to improve our experience playing this game. You have my respect, for sure, whomever you are.
None of us are trying to create drama, DrawdeX. However, logical arguments and real discussion are something very lacking in the current osu community, which I consider a particularly large problem. When puxtu created that list, he effectively invited discussion on the issues and reasons that those people in that list might not already be BNs.
Yeah there seems to be a misunderstanding in puxtu's introductory lines. Not a big deal I say. fix ur gramar dxddddxxxddd
Anyhow, I'm quite surprised - and sort of honored - to be part of the list but I really feel like I'm nowhere near being active enough modding-wise to meet the current BN requirements. Not only that but I'm also quite picky (very heavily 7K biased, and quality-wise) about what I choose to mod which is something I feel shouldn't be as a BN. Maaaaaybe in the future if I stop being a lazy-ass but for now my attention will only be focused on maps I feel are worth keeping an eye on.
okay that sounded elitist as fuck
Anyhow, I'm quite surprised - and sort of honored - to be part of the list but I really feel like I'm nowhere near being active enough modding-wise to meet the current BN requirements. Not only that but I'm also quite picky (very heavily 7K biased, and quality-wise) about what I choose to mod which is something I feel shouldn't be as a BN. Maaaaaybe in the future if I stop being a lazy-ass but for now my attention will only be focused on maps I feel are worth keeping an eye on.
okay that sounded elitist as fuck
Maybe I should reword my sentences to "these people would be the best suited just in case if there is a need for new bn" or something else like that. I know my list won't change anything, but atleast I already stated my opinions.
Bobbias wrote:
None of us are trying to create drama, DrawdeX. However, logical arguments and real discussion are something very lacking in the current osu community, which I consider a particularly large problem. When puxtu created that list, he effectively invited discussion on the issues and reasons that those people in that list might not already be BNs.
Or at least justDrawdeX wrote:
If you guys (the ones on puxtu's list) don't want to be BN, then you could've just said so.