The first two people he suspected were you and Slaini. Of course he would ask a more active player their thoughts on said suspects. Maybe if you weren't consentrating of being sarcastic you would have noticed.
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There's a more important reason than that.
I don't think Zexion is active though.Ace Timing wrote:
The first two people he suspected were you and Slaini. Of course he would ask a more active player their thoughts on said suspects. Maybe if you weren't consentrating of being sarcastic you would have noticed.
Then I rescind my earlier statement and apoligise to Drezi for being rude.Nyquill wrote:
There's a more important reason than that.
Drezi: so far I feel he's town. His initial list helped me (personaly) to get better into the game and he denotes a useful attitude for scumhunting, pointing flaws and contradictions and stuff. I'm also glad he doesn't share Sakura's paranoia for every little thing posted in the game, since I felt she was waaay to suspicious to some minor things.Nyquill wrote:
Hey Navizel, we don't care about you today. Try to be more aggressive. We are less likely to want to lynch you tommorow if you're still around. It helps us greatly. By aggressive I don't mean continually be paranoid about Zexion's read on you either.
Zexion, how do you feel about Slaini and Drezi?
Slaini: Ugh. This one is hard. Besides the total newbie attitude I don't really feel a constant attitude coming from him. If I had to take a guess, I would say he's scum for cutting up discussions and just jumping into wagons with not a lot of new ideas coming from himself (and a really passive playstyle, with many posts just saying "goodbye" and stuff like that), but then again I wouldn't be so sure to lynch him just because that. I would like to see how he plays on the following day or so to make a more strong read about him.
As long as rEdo doesn't talk, my vote stays on what was Hika.
Just because I haven't posted as much as I did earlier in the game doesn't mean I'm not active anymore >_<, I still read and post in the game constantly.Navizel wrote:
I don't think Zexion is active though.Ace Timing wrote:
The first two people he suspected were you and Slaini. Of course he would ask a more active player their thoughts on said suspects. Maybe if you weren't consentrating of being sarcastic you would have noticed.
Well.. by active, I mean someone who isn't lurking.
By the way to everyone, what would you do if your reads on the replacements are different from the previous players? Also, what are everyone's thoughts on Ace Timing and Slaini?
By the way to everyone, what would you do if your reads on the replacements are different from the previous players? Also, what are everyone's thoughts on Ace Timing and Slaini?
Well reading Slaini is really hard because his attitude isn't really constant. He flips between scummy and ignorant (newbish) townie very often and sporadically. I've honest;y never encountered this irl so I don't really know how to interact with nor respond to such a thing. I guess the best place to put him is null-scum (and yes I know this goes against my earlier read).Navizel wrote:
Well.. by active, I mean someone who isn't lurking.
By the way to everyone, what would you do if your reads on the replacements are different from the previous players? Also, what are everyone's thoughts on Ace Timing and Slaini?
So you consider his newbish play as townie and not scummy or maybe null? I'm assuming the italicized sentences are answers for my first question. Who would you put as null-scum?Ace Timing wrote:
Well reading Slaini is really hard because his attitude isn't really constant. He flips between scummy and ignorant (newbish) townie very often and sporadically. I've honest;y never encountered this irl so I don't really know how to interact with nor respond to such a thing. I guess the best place to put him is null-scum (and yes I know this goes against my earlier read).
I'm going to wait until after nighttime to read Slaini. It's hard and new things might arise in the new day so I'll see then.
Even though there's information here in D1?
@ace and drezi: look at the hika wagon
Yeah.
And I don't like the way you're going about it. You're able to shift the apparent intention of this post later based on how it's recieved.
And I don't like the way you're going about it. You're able to shift the apparent intention of this post later based on how it's recieved.
Make your reads clear now, if it's any different from what Sakura had established. You have no reason not to update us if there are any changes, unless you want to come out with them only if it's convenient.
That means communicating "it's the same" too, otherwise those would still be left open.
...but I haven't said anything about the information I recieved?Drezi wrote:
Yeah.
And I don't like the way you're going about it. You're able to shift the apparent intention of this post later based on how it's recieved.
There is no point to question that's meant to further your confidence on someone if you explain the reason why you're asking the question.
There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads. Scum is in Hika, Slaini, Jess and Navizel.
There is also no benefit of revealing my full set of reads. Scum is in Hika, Slaini, Jess and Navizel.
I agree with basically everything here. Both Drezi and Slaini and you are on the Hika wagon at the moment. The only move on to the wagon that really felt wrong was Slaini's. Drezi's suggestion to move to Hika also shows he's trying to get townreads as well.Zexion wrote:
Drezi: so far I feel he's town. His initial list helped me (personaly) to get better into the game and he denotes a useful attitude for scumhunting, pointing flaws and contradictions and stuff. I'm also glad he doesn't share Sakura's paranoia for every little thing posted in the game, since I felt she was waaay to suspicious to some minor things.Nyquill wrote:
Hey Navizel, we don't care about you today. Try to be more aggressive. We are less likely to want to lynch you tommorow if you're still around. It helps us greatly. By aggressive I don't mean continually be paranoid about Zexion's read on you either.
Zexion, how do you feel about Slaini and Drezi?
Slaini: Ugh. This one is hard. Besides the total newbie attitude I don't really feel a constant attitude coming from him. If I had to take a guess, I would say he's scum for cutting up discussions and just jumping into wagons with not a lot of new ideas coming from himself (and a really passive playstyle, with many posts just saying "goodbye" and stuff like that), but then again I wouldn't be so sure to lynch him just because that. I would like to see how he plays on the following day or so to make a more strong read about him.
As long as rEdo doesn't talk, my vote stays on what was Hika.
as it is, waiting for rEdo to show up.
My move onto the wagon was indeed a bit forced, as my initial vote was Navi. I want to mention, though, that I scumread Hika together with Drezi before the wagon started. Just so you keep in mind that it wasn't parotting.
Here are my thought on Slaini and AceNavizel wrote:
Also, what are everyone's thoughts on Ace Timing and Slaini?
Slaini:
His mind was too hard to catch.his language error makes everyone thinks he is self-contradictory at first.
If I want to say,I think he is a person who want to helping, but his action make the thing get worse.
Ace:
His words are rude.he only just think about others look of him.
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well,i am too passive
I can't come up with lot of mind(even some of them are silly)
I am sorry for that.
I hope that I don't ruin the game in anyway ._. If I do so, tell me, please.-[Jess]- wrote:
but his action make the thing get worse.
This is one of the reasons why I am scum reading you. It really feels like you want to please town so you won't be lynched or killed.sLaiNi wrote:
I hope that I don't ruin the game in anyway ._. If I do so, tell me, please.-[Jess]- wrote:
but his action make the thing get worse.
lol, guess what you want in terms of that ^^Navizel wrote:
This is one of the reasons why I am scum reading you. It really feels like you want to please town so you won't be lynched or killed.
I thought that was one of the points of this game...Navizel wrote:
This is one of the reasons why I am scum reading you. It really feels like you want to please town so you won't be lynched or killed.
tfw one rude post-[Jess]- wrote:
Ace:
His words are rude.
tfw I apologised
Prove that you're town not please the town.
We can't be sure whether Slaini's newbieness is sincere or just a scum cover-up before, uh, before we're sure about it.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.08
[3] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi
[2] sLaiNi -- Navizel, Nyquill
[1] Ace Timing -- -[Jess]-
[1] Zexion -- rEdo
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Static Noise Bird
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- THIS IS 43 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
[3] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi
[2] sLaiNi -- Navizel, Nyquill
[1] Ace Timing -- -[Jess]-
[1] Zexion -- rEdo
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Static Noise Bird
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- THIS IS 43 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
My vote will stay on Slaini.
So we are close to the deadline. How do we get to a final conclusion?
Well, unless rEdo says something, their the likely candidate for lynching, but quite frankly I don't think that there's anything they can say.
Either we lynch the closest to scum person or we end up lynching no one though the latter doesn't really happen often in D1.
I think that for this game to move forward it is imperative that someone be lynched (just my personal opinion). I personally want to wait for rEdo to say something, so until then I'll just withhold my vote until then.
Wait for rEdo to say something first.than we will have final conclusion.(with cookies and milk)sLaiNi wrote:
So we are close to the deadline. How do we get to a final conclusion?
For now,my vote still stay on Ace.
I'll (should be able to) get online tomorrow morning (22~24 hours from now in my timezone) to place my vote, most likely on to Slaini. I really want to see what rEdo has to say, though.
Yesterway was like Stuff > Mafia. Today I'm going to reverse that order. Reading up immediately.
See the rules.sLaiNi wrote:
What would happen in case of a draw?
Not going to happen, because tbh in that case I'll put in my vote on a whim just to get someone lynched, but in the case of that happening, I think no one would get lynchedsLaiNi wrote:
What would happen in case of a draw?
That's actually not very good. Its a lot easier to find scum the day after if someone is lynched.sLaiNi wrote:
Okay, in our case no-one will be lynched
Oh god, this game is a mess. I want to beat the living shit out of Hika for being so idle in her almost every single game.
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
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My thoughts so far:
Am I missing something or is this a fucking scumclaim?sLaiNi wrote:
That's so right. That is something I should definitly change. But that has nothing to do with me being scum, [...]Sakura wrote:
It feels like you're more concerned with how people look at you than actually finding scum.
inb4 sLaiNi & Ace Timing scumteam, it would be topkek/10Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
Oh hey this is what I have thought too. Am I scum to you?Ace Timing wrote:
The reason why I am (currently) convinced that SNB is scum is that when I made that earlier read, he immediately thought that me and Slaini were a scum team. There was no real reason he should think so, so therefore, he must of been a scum trying to get me or Slaini lynched. Still can figure out what Hika is, as he hasn't been on in awhile. I honestly forgot why Sakura is null-scum. I'll probably remember, but I came up with these after seeing the responses to the read I made earlier. I picked Slaini simply because he was suspected of a scumslip earler on, and I was already kind of inclined to believe he was town. Kek.
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.sLaiNi wrote:
I have to say that Jess' didn't contribute a lot. Still, I don't think we should vote her just now.
So I will vote Hika for known reasons. But as we aren't in a hurry it might be a good idea to wait for her replacement, wouldn't it?
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
My thoughts so far:
- If sLaiNi would be today's lynch and he would flip scum, very most likely his scumpartner would be Zexion. I haven't seen any exchange of words at all until just recently, when the Hika wagon got more attention. That's weird. This is even weirder, I mean the way sLaiNi's trying to discredit someone for voting Zexion. I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with. That information being sLaiNi's alignment.
- Ace Timing is a fucking pile of WIFOM all around.
- Sakura/Nyquill and Drezi seem the towniest.
- Jess is eating dinner whole game.
I obviously meant the way he's swinging votes, not the lurking part.rEdo wrote:
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
Oh, an interesting observation:
p/4282338/
p/4300240/
Note how both sLaiNi and Zexion are on the same wagon when somebody's close to getting hammered.
p/4282338/
p/4300240/
Note how both sLaiNi and Zexion are on the same wagon when somebody's close to getting hammered.
People still think that was an actual read? That would actually be topkek now that I think about it.rEdo wrote:
inb4 sLaiNi & Ace Timing scumteam, it would be topkek/10Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
I've heard this before, but what post did I make that could actually be dubbed WIFOM?rEdo wrote:
Ace Timing is a fucking pile of WIFOM all around.
And also, I can't really find anyone scummy today so before anyone asks I most likely will not vote today.
p/4287543/Ace Timing wrote:
People still think that was an actual read? That would actually be topkek now that I think about it.
That was more of a joke.Ace Timing wrote:
I've heard this before, but what post did I make that could actually be dubbed WIFOM?
p/4287657/
p/4291365/
p/4296357/ (probably not, but it gave me that impression)
p/4300686/ (elaborate please? I think I'm misunderstanding)
@mod: You might want to change the letterbox with ISO-s. Exactly this:
2. Sakurato this:
3. Hika
2. NyquillSakura
3. rEdoHika
2. [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=682935&t=340639]Nyquill[/url] [s][url=http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=289422&t=340639]Sakura[/url][/s]
3. [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=49329&t=340639]rEdo[/url] [s][url=http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=277415&t=340639]Hika[/url][/s]
Why are you voting me instead of sLaiNi?Drezi wrote:
Why aren't you voting rEdo?
Oh, I actually thought this question was to Ace Timing why he's not voting me.
I wanna see how sLaiNi/Zexion react first.
I wanna see how sLaiNi/Zexion react first.
Ok. This is why it is a lot easier to find scum after a lynch. When there is no lynch two people are dead. Now based on the posts of the desceased, the remaining players must find people who are likely to have wantwd them dead. On the other hand if you have lynched someone, you now have a smaller pool of people to choose from, as if you mislynched, there are now 6 players alive instead of 7. Another reason is, if you DO lynch a scum you don't have to figure out who wanted who dead with 2 possible suspects, now you only have to deal with one.rEdo wrote:
p/4300686/ (elaborate please? I think I'm misunderstanding)
Therefore, its easiest to move forward with the game after a lynching especially with inactive players like in this game.
LoLwutrEdo wrote:
[*]Jess is eating dinner whole game.[/list]
Those days when I was here was 7:00 p.m.
That was an another way of saying "you're not doing anything this game".-[Jess]- wrote:
LoLwut
Those days when I was here was 7:00 p.m.
I know >.<rEdo wrote:
That was an another way of saying "you're not doing anything this game".-[Jess]- wrote:
LoLwut
Those days when I was here was 7:00 p.m.
I was stalking the thread and thinking on those days.
Well since you're here, could you tell me why you are currently voting me? I forgot why and would like to hear your updated opinion on the matter.-[Jess]- wrote:
I know >.<rEdo wrote:
That was an another way of saying "you're not doing anything this game".
I was stalking the thread and thinking on those days.
Then why your read was not include me?Ace Timing wrote:
Well since you're here, could you tell me why you are currently voting me? I forgot why and would like to hear your updated opinion on the matter.
Which read? The bogus one I used in the beginning, or the later one. In the case of the second one it's because you don't really post a lot.-[Jess]- wrote:
Then why your read was not include me?Ace Timing wrote:
Well since you're here, could you tell me why you are currently voting me? I forgot why and would like to hear your updated opinion on the matter.
Or I just plain forgot about you.
You just forgot me
If you want to interpret it that way then sure.-[Jess]- wrote:
You just forgot me
I don't see a reason not to vote him, actually.
Vote: sLaiNi
Vote: sLaiNi
Alright, good. Now I'm even more convinced about how bad the Hika/rEdo wagon is/was.
Vote: Slaini
L-1, if you derphammer you're getting a guaranteed full-day scum-read and instant vote from me tomorrow "Kappa".
Vote: Slaini
L-1, if you derphammer you're getting a guaranteed full-day scum-read and instant vote from me tomorrow "Kappa".
If you are above the lynch threshold but the mod hasn't posted that you're dead, yet. Are you allowed to post something with game relevant information?
You can post as much as you want before the mod posts a death scene.
Do NOT hammer, unless you want to get lynched first thing tomorrow.
Nyquill what do you think of rEdo?
Do NOT hammer, unless you want to get lynched first thing tomorrow.
Nyquill what do you think of rEdo?
rEdo wrote:
Why are you voting me instead of sLaiNi?Drezi wrote:
Why aren't you voting rEdo?
Okay, then:
rEdo wrote:
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
That quote is part of the reason. I want to hear from Nyquill before I elaborate.
As stated some posts after this, I used this to 1. Don't let my vote lurk around, 2. Put more pressure on Hika. I just said that it wasn't a good idea to lynch her right away.rEdo wrote:
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.sLaiNi wrote:
I have to say that Jess' didn't contribute a lot. Still, I don't think we should vote her just now.
So I will vote Hika for known reasons. But as we aren't in a hurry it might be a good idea to wait for her replacement, wouldn't it?
The reasons you listed against Hika are pretty much a very good reason to vote for her. Seems like you try to distract others from yourself, as you first say, that these aren't reasons to vote for Hika (while they are), but in the next sentence you say these are reasons to vote for me. Like the same thing is suspicious for the one person, but not for the other.rEdo wrote:
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
You take the my statement that "Ace's vote was parrotting" completely out of context. It was that Ace entered the game pretty late and voted someone for strange reasons, right before putting a reads - list up with me at the top and zexion as scum. It was that he had no reason to put me as town and Zexion as scum. He even confirmed afterwards, that his reads were random to get reactions. So this conclusion of yours is pretty invalid.rEdo wrote:
My thoughts so far:
- If sLaiNi would be today's lynch and he would flip scum, very most likely his scumpartner would be Zexion. I haven't seen any exchange of words at all until just recently, when the Hika wagon got more attention. That's weird. This is even weirder, I mean the way sLaiNi's trying to discredit someone for voting Zexion. I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with. That information being sLaiNi's alignment.
[...]
All in all, several of your statements seem like they are taken out of context intentionally (or atleast you didn't read thoroughly enough).
If so, then why Zexion never addressed you in his posts, and neither you addressed him?
All you guys did with each other was writing "oh I don't really know what to think of him, he's null" in your readlists.
Actually we had little communication with each other.
Still:
I did put him as null - leaning scum and pointed out, that it is strange how he just didn't do anything against my potential scumslip.
Still:
I did put him as null - leaning scum and pointed out, that it is strange how he just didn't do anything against my potential scumslip.
Yes, you've had, but it started right when the Hika wagon started.
Do scumbuddies try to scumpaint each other in D1?
Do scumbuddies try to scumpaint each other in D1?
So you say, just because I don't call him a scum, he has to be a scum together with me? Seems a bit far-fetched.rEdo wrote:
Yes, you've had, but it started right when the Hika wagon started.
Do scumbuddies try to scumpaint each other in D1?
What does that have to do with the Hika wagon anyway.
Forget my second question. I see our misscommunication there. Everythings fine with the Hika wagon accusion I guess.
Did you just justify an accusation towards you? We're going to lynch you if this goes on you know. Are you not going to do anything?
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.09
[4] sLaiNi -- Navizel, Nyquill, rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[3] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi
[1] Ace Timing -- -[Jess]-
[0] Zexion --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- 28.5 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
[4] sLaiNi -- Navizel, Nyquill, rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[3] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi
[1] Ace Timing -- -[Jess]-
[0] Zexion --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- 28.5 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
You see, redo just thought about what happens if I turn scum and you'll be the second scum. What will she do after I turned town. Probably she just gets even more suspicious, creating that wagon. And defending it like this.Ace Timing wrote:
Did you just justify an accusation towards you? We're going to lynch you if this goes on you know. Are you not going to do anything?
So basically, as I scumread her, I hope that my death will clarify this.
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.sLaiNi wrote:
You see, redo just thought about what happens if I turn scum and you'll be the second scum. What will she do after I turned town. Probably she just gets even more suspicious, creating that wagon. And defending it like this.Ace Timing wrote:
Did you just justify an accusation towards you? We're going to lynch you if this goes on you know. Are you not going to do anything?
So basically, as I scumread her, I hope that my death will clarify this.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.Ace Timing wrote:
So basically, as I scumread her, I hope that my death will clarify this.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?[/quote]
Did you ignore my correction intentionally? As I posted it 9 Minutes before you I don't think you were writing the post at that moment.
Ignore the post above, fail quote
Did you ignore my correction intentionally? As I posted it 9 Minutes before you I don't think you were writing the post at that moment.Ace Timing wrote:
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?
Ah, I overlooked it. I still don't know who you are referring to by 'she'.
Sorry then if you overlooked it.Ace Timing wrote:
Ah, I overlooked it. I still don't know who you are referring to by 'she'.
And I am referring to redo (if she/he is actually male, I am very sorry for that @ redo)
Hello there. A lot has been going on it seems, so this post may be a quite long. As I'm going to be reading from backwards, my reads may change mid-post.
100% Agree
I hardly think Sakura was the towniest. Her overall paranoia and her ignoring some posts made me really weary of her attitude. I still don't know what to say about Nyquill.
Dinner must be pretty big. Jess non-participation will only lead to trouble reading her later on.
1. She wasn't actually doing anything
2. She didn't have time to post her findings before leaving the game.
Number 2 is extremely unlikely because if I would be leaving a game I would at least post my results of the plan I was talking about posts ago before leaving. So, its very likely she was just buying time and pretend to be scumhunting with her "masterplan". And let's not forget the "yeah you just acted how I thought" and then no conclusions about that.
...and he's still being scummy IMO.
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@rEdo: Before you claim "yeah Slaini/Zexion confirmed beacuse Zexion's deflecting votes or asdf", take a look at Hika's posting. You can't tell me there's nothing wrong there. Now that I meantion it, I remember saying the same to SNB...
Also I want to hear Nyquill's stance on this.
Yes. We can't No-Lynch D1. We need more information and some flips to narrow down our choices and pinpoint scum.Ace Timing wrote:
I think that for this game to move forward it is imperative that someone be lynched (just my personal opinion). I personally want to wait for rEdo to say something, so until then I'll just withhold my vote until then.
This is my real problem. His newbie play can't guarantee he's just hiding scum. That's why I mentioned some posts before that we (or at least, what I'm going to do) is wait for D2 for some reactions. That lynch seems like we just have no idea who's scum and we rather lynch a newbie to eliminate the possibility.Static Noise Bird wrote:
We can't be sure whether Slaini's newbieness is sincere or just a scum cover-up before, uh, before we're sure about it.
Sakura already said that theory and so far if your reason to suspect me being scum is a lack of comunication, then you're really lost. If you're accusing me for that then why not partner me with Ace or Jess? AFAIK I haven't had direct discussions with both of them so they may be well my scumparterns? (as I assume you're using that point because we try to "distance each other") Discrediting a vote towards someone its hardly proof that those two players have conections, or do we have to suspect you being someone's partner because Slaini's vote to Hika (now you) was really shady and someone (doesn't matter who now) pointed it was scummy?rEdo wrote:
My thoughts so far:If there's anything you want to ask me, please go ahead immediately.
- If sLaiNi would be today's lynch and he would flip scum, very most likely his scumpartner would be Zexion. I haven't seen any exchange of words at all until just recently, when the Hika wagon got more attention. That's weird. This is even weirder, I mean the way sLaiNi's trying to discredit someone for voting Zexion. I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with. That information being sLaiNi's alignment.
- Ace Timing is a fucking pile of WIFOM all around.
- Sakura/Nyquill and Drezi seem the towniest.
- Jess is eating dinner whole game.
100% Agree
I hardly think Sakura was the towniest. Her overall paranoia and her ignoring some posts made me really weary of her attitude. I still don't know what to say about Nyquill.
Dinner must be pretty big. Jess non-participation will only lead to trouble reading her later on.
I completly agree on this one, which is why I said posts ago that if I had to take a guess Slaini should be scum, but I can't really bring myself to lynch him just because jumping onto the wagon... newbie reasons.rEdo wrote:
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.sLaiNi wrote:
I have to say that Jess' didn't contribute a lot. Still, I don't think we should vote her just now.
So I will vote Hika for known reasons. But as we aren't in a hurry it might be a good idea to wait for her replacement, wouldn't it?
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
Hika's attitude was extremely secretive. I really don't care if you are talking and scumhunting right now because you are someone different, but if Hika was just reaction testing without posting her results the entire game that meant:rEdo wrote:
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
1. She wasn't actually doing anything
2. She didn't have time to post her findings before leaving the game.
Number 2 is extremely unlikely because if I would be leaving a game I would at least post my results of the plan I was talking about posts ago before leaving. So, its very likely she was just buying time and pretend to be scumhunting with her "masterplan". And let's not forget the "yeah you just acted how I thought" and then no conclusions about that.
"My scumreads are both of the same wagon so they must surely be scum! How about we propose a Sakura+Drezi scumteam now?" You're just making excuses to make us think you've solved the game by coincidences. Navizel was scummy as hell until that point (before his "claim") so all active players had a good reason to bring him up to L-1 so he would finally talk.rEdo wrote:
Oh, an interesting observation:
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Note how both sLaiNi and Zexion are on the same wagon when somebody's close to getting hammered.
...and he's still being scummy IMO.
"This is me jumping in the bandwagon because rEdo wrote nice walls, don't mind me".Static Noise Bird wrote:
Alright, good. Now I'm even more convinced about how bad the Hika/rEdo wagon is/was.
Vote: Slaini
L-1, if you derphammer you're getting a guaranteed full-day scum-read and instant vote from me tomorrow "Kappa".
Kek no. I still think Hika/rEdo should eat rope. rEdo bringing up an old theory makes me think he's just being oportunist of Sakura's earlier posts.Ace Timing wrote:
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?
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@rEdo: Before you claim "yeah Slaini/Zexion confirmed beacuse Zexion's deflecting votes or asdf", take a look at Hika's posting. You can't tell me there's nothing wrong there. Now that I meantion it, I remember saying the same to SNB...
Also I want to hear Nyquill's stance on this.
Forgot to say on this one that there's more to Hika that those two things you mentioned. That's why I'm not voting Slaini atm.Zexion wrote:
I completly agree on this one, which is why I said posts ago that if I had to take a guess Slaini should be scum, but I can't really bring myself to lynch him just because jumping onto the wagon... newbie reasons."rEdo wrote:
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
Nyquill should really make an appearance, we don't have much time left, and I def don't want today to be a sLaiNi lynch with how things are looking right now.
tbh a Zexion or a Slaini lynch is fine with me.
This is so scummy as fuck. Reminder that he did the same thing to disprove points before.Zexion wrote:
"My scumreads are both of the same wagon so they must surely be scum! How about we propose a Sakura+Drezi scumteam now?"
This is just me but if I were to pick between someone who is doing nothing and someone who is being suspicious, I would choose the latter. Yes, the former seems suspicious too but the latter is worse. Using someone's experience is a weak excuse.Zexion wrote:
Because you accuse me of "not even scumhunting" and yet you're totally OK at Hika keeping ideas to themselves and Jess and Slaini not saying anything useful. That attitude sounds pretty inconsistent. You wanted my reads, if you feel "scared" by looking at them, its your fault, but yeah, I should not have put that "you're" there.
Let's go back to that point in the game. Besides you, who was another lynch candidate? May I remind you of your "heh" post?Navizel wrote:
This is so scummy as fuck. Reminder that he did the same thing to disprove points before.Zexion wrote:
"My scumreads are both of the same wagon so they must surely be scum! How about we propose a Sakura+Drezi scumteam now?"
Btw that phrase should be read as entirely situational, maybe I shouldn't have worded it that way but voting you at that point seemed like the best choice to be honest.
You can reference it then?Navizel wrote:
This is so scummy as fuck. Reminder that he did the same thing to disprove points before.Zexion wrote:
"My scumreads are both of the same wagon so they must surely be scum! How about we propose a Sakura+Drezi scumteam now?"