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That's actually not very good. Its a lot easier to find scum the day after if someone is lynched.sLaiNi wrote:
Okay, in our case no-one will be lynched
Oh god, this game is a mess. I want to beat the living shit out of Hika for being so idle in her almost every single game.
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
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My thoughts so far:
Am I missing something or is this a fucking scumclaim?sLaiNi wrote:
That's so right. That is something I should definitly change. But that has nothing to do with me being scum, [...]Sakura wrote:
It feels like you're more concerned with how people look at you than actually finding scum.
inb4 sLaiNi & Ace Timing scumteam, it would be topkek/10Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
Oh hey this is what I have thought too. Am I scum to you?Ace Timing wrote:
The reason why I am (currently) convinced that SNB is scum is that when I made that earlier read, he immediately thought that me and Slaini were a scum team. There was no real reason he should think so, so therefore, he must of been a scum trying to get me or Slaini lynched. Still can figure out what Hika is, as he hasn't been on in awhile. I honestly forgot why Sakura is null-scum. I'll probably remember, but I came up with these after seeing the responses to the read I made earlier. I picked Slaini simply because he was suspected of a scumslip earler on, and I was already kind of inclined to believe he was town. Kek.
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.sLaiNi wrote:
I have to say that Jess' didn't contribute a lot. Still, I don't think we should vote her just now.
So I will vote Hika for known reasons. But as we aren't in a hurry it might be a good idea to wait for her replacement, wouldn't it?
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
My thoughts so far:
- If sLaiNi would be today's lynch and he would flip scum, very most likely his scumpartner would be Zexion. I haven't seen any exchange of words at all until just recently, when the Hika wagon got more attention. That's weird. This is even weirder, I mean the way sLaiNi's trying to discredit someone for voting Zexion. I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with. That information being sLaiNi's alignment.
- Ace Timing is a fucking pile of WIFOM all around.
- Sakura/Nyquill and Drezi seem the towniest.
- Jess is eating dinner whole game.
I obviously meant the way he's swinging votes, not the lurking part.rEdo wrote:
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
Oh, an interesting observation:
p/4282338/
p/4300240/
Note how both sLaiNi and Zexion are on the same wagon when somebody's close to getting hammered.
p/4282338/
p/4300240/
Note how both sLaiNi and Zexion are on the same wagon when somebody's close to getting hammered.
People still think that was an actual read? That would actually be topkek now that I think about it.rEdo wrote:
inb4 sLaiNi & Ace Timing scumteam, it would be topkek/10Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
I've heard this before, but what post did I make that could actually be dubbed WIFOM?rEdo wrote:
Ace Timing is a fucking pile of WIFOM all around.
And also, I can't really find anyone scummy today so before anyone asks I most likely will not vote today.
p/4287543/Ace Timing wrote:
People still think that was an actual read? That would actually be topkek now that I think about it.
That was more of a joke.Ace Timing wrote:
I've heard this before, but what post did I make that could actually be dubbed WIFOM?
p/4287657/
p/4291365/
p/4296357/ (probably not, but it gave me that impression)
p/4300686/ (elaborate please? I think I'm misunderstanding)
@mod: You might want to change the letterbox with ISO-s. Exactly this:
2. Sakurato this:
3. Hika
2. NyquillSakura
3. rEdoHika
2. [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=682935&t=340639]Nyquill[/url] [s][url=http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=289422&t=340639]Sakura[/url][/s]
3. [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=49329&t=340639]rEdo[/url] [s][url=http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=277415&t=340639]Hika[/url][/s]
Why are you voting me instead of sLaiNi?Drezi wrote:
Why aren't you voting rEdo?
Oh, I actually thought this question was to Ace Timing why he's not voting me.
I wanna see how sLaiNi/Zexion react first.
I wanna see how sLaiNi/Zexion react first.
Ok. This is why it is a lot easier to find scum after a lynch. When there is no lynch two people are dead. Now based on the posts of the desceased, the remaining players must find people who are likely to have wantwd them dead. On the other hand if you have lynched someone, you now have a smaller pool of people to choose from, as if you mislynched, there are now 6 players alive instead of 7. Another reason is, if you DO lynch a scum you don't have to figure out who wanted who dead with 2 possible suspects, now you only have to deal with one.rEdo wrote:
p/4300686/ (elaborate please? I think I'm misunderstanding)
Therefore, its easiest to move forward with the game after a lynching especially with inactive players like in this game.
LoLwutrEdo wrote:
[*]Jess is eating dinner whole game.[/list]
Those days when I was here was 7:00 p.m.
That was an another way of saying "you're not doing anything this game".-[Jess]- wrote:
LoLwut
Those days when I was here was 7:00 p.m.
I know >.<rEdo wrote:
That was an another way of saying "you're not doing anything this game".-[Jess]- wrote:
LoLwut
Those days when I was here was 7:00 p.m.
I was stalking the thread and thinking on those days.
Well since you're here, could you tell me why you are currently voting me? I forgot why and would like to hear your updated opinion on the matter.-[Jess]- wrote:
I know >.<rEdo wrote:
That was an another way of saying "you're not doing anything this game".
I was stalking the thread and thinking on those days.
Then why your read was not include me?Ace Timing wrote:
Well since you're here, could you tell me why you are currently voting me? I forgot why and would like to hear your updated opinion on the matter.
Which read? The bogus one I used in the beginning, or the later one. In the case of the second one it's because you don't really post a lot.-[Jess]- wrote:
Then why your read was not include me?Ace Timing wrote:
Well since you're here, could you tell me why you are currently voting me? I forgot why and would like to hear your updated opinion on the matter.
Or I just plain forgot about you.
You just forgot me
If you want to interpret it that way then sure.-[Jess]- wrote:
You just forgot me
I don't see a reason not to vote him, actually.
Vote: sLaiNi
Vote: sLaiNi
Alright, good. Now I'm even more convinced about how bad the Hika/rEdo wagon is/was.
Vote: Slaini
L-1, if you derphammer you're getting a guaranteed full-day scum-read and instant vote from me tomorrow "Kappa".
Vote: Slaini
L-1, if you derphammer you're getting a guaranteed full-day scum-read and instant vote from me tomorrow "Kappa".
If you are above the lynch threshold but the mod hasn't posted that you're dead, yet. Are you allowed to post something with game relevant information?
You can post as much as you want before the mod posts a death scene.
Do NOT hammer, unless you want to get lynched first thing tomorrow.
Nyquill what do you think of rEdo?
Do NOT hammer, unless you want to get lynched first thing tomorrow.
Nyquill what do you think of rEdo?
rEdo wrote:
Why are you voting me instead of sLaiNi?Drezi wrote:
Why aren't you voting rEdo?
Okay, then:
rEdo wrote:
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
That quote is part of the reason. I want to hear from Nyquill before I elaborate.
As stated some posts after this, I used this to 1. Don't let my vote lurk around, 2. Put more pressure on Hika. I just said that it wasn't a good idea to lynch her right away.rEdo wrote:
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.sLaiNi wrote:
I have to say that Jess' didn't contribute a lot. Still, I don't think we should vote her just now.
So I will vote Hika for known reasons. But as we aren't in a hurry it might be a good idea to wait for her replacement, wouldn't it?
The reasons you listed against Hika are pretty much a very good reason to vote for her. Seems like you try to distract others from yourself, as you first say, that these aren't reasons to vote for Hika (while they are), but in the next sentence you say these are reasons to vote for me. Like the same thing is suspicious for the one person, but not for the other.rEdo wrote:
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
You take the my statement that "Ace's vote was parrotting" completely out of context. It was that Ace entered the game pretty late and voted someone for strange reasons, right before putting a reads - list up with me at the top and zexion as scum. It was that he had no reason to put me as town and Zexion as scum. He even confirmed afterwards, that his reads were random to get reactions. So this conclusion of yours is pretty invalid.rEdo wrote:
My thoughts so far:
- If sLaiNi would be today's lynch and he would flip scum, very most likely his scumpartner would be Zexion. I haven't seen any exchange of words at all until just recently, when the Hika wagon got more attention. That's weird. This is even weirder, I mean the way sLaiNi's trying to discredit someone for voting Zexion. I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with. That information being sLaiNi's alignment.
[...]
All in all, several of your statements seem like they are taken out of context intentionally (or atleast you didn't read thoroughly enough).
If so, then why Zexion never addressed you in his posts, and neither you addressed him?
All you guys did with each other was writing "oh I don't really know what to think of him, he's null" in your readlists.
Actually we had little communication with each other.
Still:
I did put him as null - leaning scum and pointed out, that it is strange how he just didn't do anything against my potential scumslip.
Still:
I did put him as null - leaning scum and pointed out, that it is strange how he just didn't do anything against my potential scumslip.
Yes, you've had, but it started right when the Hika wagon started.
Do scumbuddies try to scumpaint each other in D1?
Do scumbuddies try to scumpaint each other in D1?
So you say, just because I don't call him a scum, he has to be a scum together with me? Seems a bit far-fetched.rEdo wrote:
Yes, you've had, but it started right when the Hika wagon started.
Do scumbuddies try to scumpaint each other in D1?
What does that have to do with the Hika wagon anyway.
Forget my second question. I see our misscommunication there. Everythings fine with the Hika wagon accusion I guess.
Did you just justify an accusation towards you? We're going to lynch you if this goes on you know. Are you not going to do anything?
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.09
[4] sLaiNi -- Navizel, Nyquill, rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[3] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi
[1] Ace Timing -- -[Jess]-
[0] Zexion --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- 28.5 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
[4] sLaiNi -- Navizel, Nyquill, rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[3] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi
[1] Ace Timing -- -[Jess]-
[0] Zexion --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- 28.5 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
You see, redo just thought about what happens if I turn scum and you'll be the second scum. What will she do after I turned town. Probably she just gets even more suspicious, creating that wagon. And defending it like this.Ace Timing wrote:
Did you just justify an accusation towards you? We're going to lynch you if this goes on you know. Are you not going to do anything?
So basically, as I scumread her, I hope that my death will clarify this.
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.sLaiNi wrote:
You see, redo just thought about what happens if I turn scum and you'll be the second scum. What will she do after I turned town. Probably she just gets even more suspicious, creating that wagon. And defending it like this.Ace Timing wrote:
Did you just justify an accusation towards you? We're going to lynch you if this goes on you know. Are you not going to do anything?
So basically, as I scumread her, I hope that my death will clarify this.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.Ace Timing wrote:
So basically, as I scumread her, I hope that my death will clarify this.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?[/quote]
Did you ignore my correction intentionally? As I posted it 9 Minutes before you I don't think you were writing the post at that moment.
Ignore the post above, fail quote
Did you ignore my correction intentionally? As I posted it 9 Minutes before you I don't think you were writing the post at that moment.Ace Timing wrote:
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?
Ah, I overlooked it. I still don't know who you are referring to by 'she'.
Sorry then if you overlooked it.Ace Timing wrote:
Ah, I overlooked it. I still don't know who you are referring to by 'she'.
And I am referring to redo (if she/he is actually male, I am very sorry for that @ redo)
Hello there. A lot has been going on it seems, so this post may be a quite long. As I'm going to be reading from backwards, my reads may change mid-post.
100% Agree
I hardly think Sakura was the towniest. Her overall paranoia and her ignoring some posts made me really weary of her attitude. I still don't know what to say about Nyquill.
Dinner must be pretty big. Jess non-participation will only lead to trouble reading her later on.
1. She wasn't actually doing anything
2. She didn't have time to post her findings before leaving the game.
Number 2 is extremely unlikely because if I would be leaving a game I would at least post my results of the plan I was talking about posts ago before leaving. So, its very likely she was just buying time and pretend to be scumhunting with her "masterplan". And let's not forget the "yeah you just acted how I thought" and then no conclusions about that.
...and he's still being scummy IMO.
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@rEdo: Before you claim "yeah Slaini/Zexion confirmed beacuse Zexion's deflecting votes or asdf", take a look at Hika's posting. You can't tell me there's nothing wrong there. Now that I meantion it, I remember saying the same to SNB...
Also I want to hear Nyquill's stance on this.
Yes. We can't No-Lynch D1. We need more information and some flips to narrow down our choices and pinpoint scum.Ace Timing wrote:
I think that for this game to move forward it is imperative that someone be lynched (just my personal opinion). I personally want to wait for rEdo to say something, so until then I'll just withhold my vote until then.
This is my real problem. His newbie play can't guarantee he's just hiding scum. That's why I mentioned some posts before that we (or at least, what I'm going to do) is wait for D2 for some reactions. That lynch seems like we just have no idea who's scum and we rather lynch a newbie to eliminate the possibility.Static Noise Bird wrote:
We can't be sure whether Slaini's newbieness is sincere or just a scum cover-up before, uh, before we're sure about it.
Sakura already said that theory and so far if your reason to suspect me being scum is a lack of comunication, then you're really lost. If you're accusing me for that then why not partner me with Ace or Jess? AFAIK I haven't had direct discussions with both of them so they may be well my scumparterns? (as I assume you're using that point because we try to "distance each other") Discrediting a vote towards someone its hardly proof that those two players have conections, or do we have to suspect you being someone's partner because Slaini's vote to Hika (now you) was really shady and someone (doesn't matter who now) pointed it was scummy?rEdo wrote:
My thoughts so far:If there's anything you want to ask me, please go ahead immediately.
- If sLaiNi would be today's lynch and he would flip scum, very most likely his scumpartner would be Zexion. I haven't seen any exchange of words at all until just recently, when the Hika wagon got more attention. That's weird. This is even weirder, I mean the way sLaiNi's trying to discredit someone for voting Zexion. I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with. That information being sLaiNi's alignment.
- Ace Timing is a fucking pile of WIFOM all around.
- Sakura/Nyquill and Drezi seem the towniest.
- Jess is eating dinner whole game.
100% Agree
I hardly think Sakura was the towniest. Her overall paranoia and her ignoring some posts made me really weary of her attitude. I still don't know what to say about Nyquill.
Dinner must be pretty big. Jess non-participation will only lead to trouble reading her later on.
I completly agree on this one, which is why I said posts ago that if I had to take a guess Slaini should be scum, but I can't really bring myself to lynch him just because jumping onto the wagon... newbie reasons.rEdo wrote:
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.sLaiNi wrote:
I have to say that Jess' didn't contribute a lot. Still, I don't think we should vote her just now.
So I will vote Hika for known reasons. But as we aren't in a hurry it might be a good idea to wait for her replacement, wouldn't it?
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
Hika's attitude was extremely secretive. I really don't care if you are talking and scumhunting right now because you are someone different, but if Hika was just reaction testing without posting her results the entire game that meant:rEdo wrote:
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
1. She wasn't actually doing anything
2. She didn't have time to post her findings before leaving the game.
Number 2 is extremely unlikely because if I would be leaving a game I would at least post my results of the plan I was talking about posts ago before leaving. So, its very likely she was just buying time and pretend to be scumhunting with her "masterplan". And let's not forget the "yeah you just acted how I thought" and then no conclusions about that.
"My scumreads are both of the same wagon so they must surely be scum! How about we propose a Sakura+Drezi scumteam now?" You're just making excuses to make us think you've solved the game by coincidences. Navizel was scummy as hell until that point (before his "claim") so all active players had a good reason to bring him up to L-1 so he would finally talk.rEdo wrote:
Oh, an interesting observation:
p/4282338/
p/4300240/
Note how both sLaiNi and Zexion are on the same wagon when somebody's close to getting hammered.
...and he's still being scummy IMO.
"This is me jumping in the bandwagon because rEdo wrote nice walls, don't mind me".Static Noise Bird wrote:
Alright, good. Now I'm even more convinced about how bad the Hika/rEdo wagon is/was.
Vote: Slaini
L-1, if you derphammer you're getting a guaranteed full-day scum-read and instant vote from me tomorrow "Kappa".
Kek no. I still think Hika/rEdo should eat rope. rEdo bringing up an old theory makes me think he's just being oportunist of Sakura's earlier posts.Ace Timing wrote:
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?
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@rEdo: Before you claim "yeah Slaini/Zexion confirmed beacuse Zexion's deflecting votes or asdf", take a look at Hika's posting. You can't tell me there's nothing wrong there. Now that I meantion it, I remember saying the same to SNB...
Also I want to hear Nyquill's stance on this.
Forgot to say on this one that there's more to Hika that those two things you mentioned. That's why I'm not voting Slaini atm.Zexion wrote:
I completly agree on this one, which is why I said posts ago that if I had to take a guess Slaini should be scum, but I can't really bring myself to lynch him just because jumping onto the wagon... newbie reasons."rEdo wrote:
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
Nyquill should really make an appearance, we don't have much time left, and I def don't want today to be a sLaiNi lynch with how things are looking right now.
tbh a Zexion or a Slaini lynch is fine with me.
This is so scummy as fuck. Reminder that he did the same thing to disprove points before.Zexion wrote:
"My scumreads are both of the same wagon so they must surely be scum! How about we propose a Sakura+Drezi scumteam now?"
This is just me but if I were to pick between someone who is doing nothing and someone who is being suspicious, I would choose the latter. Yes, the former seems suspicious too but the latter is worse. Using someone's experience is a weak excuse.Zexion wrote:
Because you accuse me of "not even scumhunting" and yet you're totally OK at Hika keeping ideas to themselves and Jess and Slaini not saying anything useful. That attitude sounds pretty inconsistent. You wanted my reads, if you feel "scared" by looking at them, its your fault, but yeah, I should not have put that "you're" there.
Let's go back to that point in the game. Besides you, who was another lynch candidate? May I remind you of your "heh" post?Navizel wrote:
This is so scummy as fuck. Reminder that he did the same thing to disprove points before.Zexion wrote:
"My scumreads are both of the same wagon so they must surely be scum! How about we propose a Sakura+Drezi scumteam now?"
Btw that phrase should be read as entirely situational, maybe I shouldn't have worded it that way but voting you at that point seemed like the best choice to be honest.
You can reference it then?Navizel wrote:
This is so scummy as fuck. Reminder that he did the same thing to disprove points before.Zexion wrote:
"My scumreads are both of the same wagon so they must surely be scum! How about we propose a Sakura+Drezi scumteam now?"
finally we can get the game rolling
Scumhunting/townreading off the Hika wagon is going to be a lot harder than doing the same with the slaini wagon because of how the wagon started.
There is good reason for waiting for tangibles, though more-so for you than slaini, and that's why a slaini lynch is the best right now. Hika would have been the kind of player dealt with after Night 1, and now that you replace her and adopt an entirely different play-style, it only adds to the case.rEdo wrote:
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
Scumhunting/townreading off the Hika wagon is going to be a lot harder than doing the same with the slaini wagon because of how the wagon started.
If you meant You and Slaini,Zexion wrote:
Kek no. I still think Hika/rEdo should eat rope. rEdo bringing up an old theory makes me think he's just being oportunist of Sakura's earlier posts.Ace Timing wrote:
wat? The proposed Scum team was you and Zexion. As Zexion has not responded recently, I am certainly not the most suspicious one here.
Slaini has obviously given up at this point. Are we waiting for Zexion to make a return to hammer the nail into the coffin?
He wasn't even pushing her theory.rEdo wrote:
My thoughts so far:
[list][*]If sLaiNi would be today's lynch and he would flip scum, very most likely his scumpartner would be Zexion. I haven't seen any exchange of words at all until just recently, when the Hika wagon got more attention. That's weird. This is even weirder, I mean the way sLaiNi's trying to discredit someone for voting Zexion. I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with. That information being sLaiNi's alignment.
So if you can learn alot from my lynch.
What are you going to learn if I flip town?
What are you going to learn if I flip town?
?????Zexion wrote:
Let's go back to that point in the game. Besides you, who was another lynch candidate? May I remind you of your "heh" post?
Btw that phrase should be read as entirely situational, maybe I shouldn't have worded it that way but voting you at that point seemed like the best choice to be honest.
Elaborate?Drezi wrote:
You can reference it then?
It goes both ways.Nyquill wrote:
Scumhunting/townreading off the Hika wagon is going to be a lot harder than doing the same with the slaini wagon because of how the wagon started.
Hey Drezi, if we go by rEdo only, his actions are solidly reflecting his posts. I'd like to know why you think he deserves the rOpe based on his actions only.
That and the post above was in response to your question.
Seriously, I was talking about your posts and then you shift the topic to mine. Nice logical fallacy.
Btw,
Btw,
It's not.rEdo wrote:
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch.
So basicaly you wouldn't read anything out of me being town. But the chance that I am scum, and that I'm in this case easier to read than redo would be if he/she turned scum, is worth a try?Nyquill wrote:
It goes both ways.Nyquill wrote:
Scumhunting/townreading off the Hika wagon is going to be a lot harder than doing the same with the slaini wagon because of how the wagon started.
Hey Drezi, if we go by rEdo only, his actions are solidly reflecting his posts. I'd like to know why you think he deserves the rOpe based on his actions only.
wow
How lynch information is gathered: The comprehensive guide by Nyquill.
Dedicated to Slaini.
Welcome to part 205844 of the series of books on how to make reads.
Today we'll cover how to gather semi-tangible information outside of Night actions. Is that possible? Yessir. Luckily for us, there are several constants in this game of mafia.
The foremost constant in a normal setup is that a death will result in a correct reveal. In a game where you are kept in the dark, this is good.
Now, how do you make the most out of a flip? Well, start by looking at who was on the wagon. You can make a judgement based on their move to the wagon, and finally attune that to what alignment the flip actually was.
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slaini, this isn't your primary concern if you don't want to get lynched.
Dedicated to Slaini.
Welcome to part 205844 of the series of books on how to make reads.
Today we'll cover how to gather semi-tangible information outside of Night actions. Is that possible? Yessir. Luckily for us, there are several constants in this game of mafia.
The foremost constant in a normal setup is that a death will result in a correct reveal. In a game where you are kept in the dark, this is good.
Now, how do you make the most out of a flip? Well, start by looking at who was on the wagon. You can make a judgement based on their move to the wagon, and finally attune that to what alignment the flip actually was.
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slaini, this isn't your primary concern if you don't want to get lynched.
Sakura proposed the same based on our interactions. I don't mean he's pushing the exact same theory (Sakura based it on me defending Slaini, but it seems rEdo is basing over our lack of comunication until that point), but rather, that me being scum with Slaini is not even an original idea of rEdo.Nyquill wrote:
If you meant You and Slaini,Zexion wrote:
Kek no. I still think Hika/rEdo should eat rope. rEdo bringing up an old theory makes me think he's just being oportunist of Sakura's earlier posts.He wasn't even pushing her theory.rEdo wrote:
My thoughts so far:
[list][*]If sLaiNi would be today's lynch and he would flip scum, very most likely his scumpartner would be Zexion. I haven't seen any exchange of words at all until just recently, when the Hika wagon got more attention. That's weird. This is even weirder, I mean the way sLaiNi's trying to discredit someone for voting Zexion. I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with. That information being sLaiNi's alignment.
What part wasn't clear?Navizel wrote:
?????Zexion wrote:
Let's go back to that point in the game. Besides you, who was another lynch candidate? May I remind you of your "heh" post?
Btw that phrase should be read as entirely situational, maybe I shouldn't have worded it that way but voting you at that point seemed like the best choice to be honest.Elaborate?Drezi wrote:
You can reference it then?
I think Drezi is looking for a quote or something to validate your claim of me "doing the same".
Slaini, if you flip town, we still win information. By taking someone out of the pool of possible scum we earn a lot. (Because, among other things, we can also confirm/develop/discard previous theories based on interactions/posts/stuff of/with the lynched or killed player)sLaiNi wrote:
So basicaly you wouldn't read anything out of me being town. But the chance that I am scum, and that I'm in this case easier to read than redo would be if he/she turned scum, is worth a try?Nyquill wrote:
It goes both ways.
Hey Drezi, if we go by rEdo only, his actions are solidly reflecting his posts. I'd like to know why you think he deserves the rOpe based on his actions only.
Ah okay, thanks for you two for explaining it indepth.
Of course, I knew the basics of that thinking (as I kinda explained it here: p/4301967 ).
Of course, I knew the basics of that thinking (as I kinda explained it here: p/4301967 ).
Was more directed at Nyquill's "It's easier to read from you than from Hika". But above standing explains it pretty well.sLaiNi wrote:
So basicaly you wouldn't read anything out of me being town. But the chance that I am scum, and that I'm in this case easier to read than redo would be if he/she turned scum, is worth a try?
I'm rereading the thread will detail rEdo posts, but I'll throw this out here. I think if sLaiNi is scum, he'll get lynched tomorrow no problem. Right now he's simply getting votes because of smaller questionable things, wordings etc, which COULD indicate scum, but it can just easily be attributed to being inexperienced, which makes the lynch weak overall.
I don't think the flip would give much information, because these reasions for wanting him lynched are pretty neutral, easy things to pick on, scum doesn't have to commit much "oh he did stupid stuff, he worded things badly I thought he was scum duh", and usually this is how town mislynches D1 go down, weaker town are happy that they can point at "suspicious" stuff and place their vote, and scum happily join.
rEdo scum going a day longer on the other hand, could cause a mess, especially if I'm not around anymore, with their partner being the louder voices in town, getting town to go for some Jess or Ace lynch or whatever, the path of least resistance again.
I don't think the flip would give much information, because these reasions for wanting him lynched are pretty neutral, easy things to pick on, scum doesn't have to commit much "oh he did stupid stuff, he worded things badly I thought he was scum duh", and usually this is how town mislynches D1 go down, weaker town are happy that they can point at "suspicious" stuff and place their vote, and scum happily join.
rEdo scum going a day longer on the other hand, could cause a mess, especially if I'm not around anymore, with their partner being the louder voices in town, getting town to go for some Jess or Ace lynch or whatever, the path of least resistance again.
Zexion wrote:
What part wasn't clear?
Navizel wrote:
Seriously, I was talking about your posts and then you shift the topic to mine. Nice logical fallacy.
err.. I quoted it in the previous page...Zexion wrote:
I think Drezi is looking for a quote or something to validate your claim of me "doing the same".
The way Zexion attacks the posts is by shifting the topic to another. Like in the examples above, when I attacked him, he shifted the topic to my "heh" post. I don't even know why he did that cause my "heh" post is directed to Sakura when she asked Zexion to pressure me. Also, when Sakura attacked Zexion iirc, he then mentioned Hika, Jess, and Slaini to disprove her points.Zexion wrote:
Because you accuse me of "not even scumhunting" and yet you're totally OK at Hika keeping ideas to themselves and Jess and Slaini not saying anything useful. That attitude sounds pretty inconsistent. You wanted my reads, if you feel "scared" by looking at them, its your fault
What where?Navizel wrote:
err.. I quoted it in the previous page...Zexion wrote:
I think Drezi is looking for a quote or something to validate your claim of me "doing the same".
I think you're pretty paranoid right now, or are still mad because I don't buy 100% your JK claim. On the post that initiated your response (p/4302068) I wasn't even attacking you or switching the attention towards you, I was merely stating that at that point of the game voting for you was the most logical thing. So WHY are you accusing me AGAIN of switching points?Navizel wrote:
Zexion wrote:
What part wasn't clear?Navizel wrote:
Seriously, I was talking about your posts and then you shift the topic to mine. Nice logical fallacy.err.. I quoted it in the previous page...Zexion wrote:
I think Drezi is looking for a quote or something to validate your claim of me "doing the same".The way Zexion attacks the posts is by shifting the topic to another. Like in the examples above, when I attacked him, he shifted the topic to my "heh" post. I don't even know why he did that cause my "heh" post is directed to Sakura when she asked Zexion to pressure me. Also, when Sakura attacked Zexion iirc, he then mentioned Hika, Jess, and Slaini to disprove her points.Zexion wrote:
Because you accuse me of "not even scumhunting" and yet you're totally OK at Hika keeping ideas to themselves and Jess and Slaini not saying anything useful. That attitude sounds pretty inconsistent. You wanted my reads, if you feel "scared" by looking at them, its your fault
Also Navi, we can talk of two separate things at the same time. Maybe you're confused and think I only want to talk about one topic at a time. Your "heh" post was scummy as hell, but that's another point we will discuss the following day or so, if someone even remembers it.
I'm aware we can. However, your replies were shifted the topics to another one. You deflected the previous topic and created another one. We only have one topic. You didn't want the heat to be on you so you looked for another situation to disprove their claims/reasonings.Zexion wrote:
I think you're pretty paranoid right now, or are still mad because I don't buy 100% your JK claim. On the post that initiated your response (p/4302068) I wasn't even attacking you or switching the attention towards you, I was merely stating that at that point of the game voting for you was the most logical thing. So WHY are you accusing me AGAIN of switching points?
Also Navi, we can talk of two separate things at the same time. Maybe you're confused and think I only want to talk about one topic at a time. Your "heh" post was scummy as hell, but that's another point we will discuss the following day or so, if someone even remembers it.
You seem to be misunderstanding my posts as well. Sigh.
So basically, you have the same feeling in the complete opposite direction.Drezi wrote:
I'm rereading the thread will detail rEdo posts, but I'll throw this out here. I think if sLaiNi is scum, he'll get lynched tomorrow no problem. Right now he's simply getting votes because of smaller questionable things, wordings etc, which COULD indicate scum, but it can just easily be attributed to being inexperienced, which makes the lynch weak overall.
I don't think the flip would give much information, because these reasions for wanting him lynched are pretty neutral, easy things to pick on, scum doesn't have to commit much "oh he did stupid stuff, he worded things badly I thought he was scum duh", and usually this is how town mislynches D1 go down, weaker town are happy that they can point at "suspicious" stuff and place their vote, and scum happily join.
rEdo scum going a day longer on the other hand, could cause a mess, especially if I'm not around anymore, with their partner being the louder voices in town, getting town to go for some Jess or Ace lynch or whatever, the path of least resistance again.
My stance is made based on that we probably have some sort of ability to give tangible information on redo tommorow. While we can do the same thing with slaini, but I simply don't see how a redo lynch would benefit us at all in terms of being able to look back and go make decisions.
unvote
I'm going to prevent a hammer before I get back.
Actually I'm too tired now, will cont and post tomorrow morning.
Ace... I don't know, actually. Haven't really digged into this guy yet. I don't really think he should be dealt with in this stage of the game as he could be goddamn anything, like Jess.Zexion wrote:
Sakura already said that theory and so far if your reason to suspect me being scum is a lack of comunication, then you're really lost. If you're accusing me for that then why not partner me with Ace or Jess? AFAIK I haven't had direct discussions with both of them so they may be well my scumparterns? (as I assume you're using that point because we try to "distance each other") Discrediting a vote towards someone its hardly proof that those two players have conections, or do we have to suspect you being someone's partner because Slaini's vote to Hika (now you) was really shady and someone (doesn't matter who now) pointed it was scummy?
Jess, on the other hand, doesn't talk with anyone at all and I'll be fucking mad if she turns out to be scum.
My reads (sLaiNi and Zexion) are pretty much a theory which I'm justifying by votecounts.
Bah, not confirming that yet.Zexion wrote:
@rEdo: Before you claim "yeah Slaini/Zexion confirmed beacuse Zexion's deflecting votes or asdf", take a look at Hika's posting. You can't tell me there's nothing wrong there. Now that I meantion it, I remember saying the same to SNB...
That there will be a high possibility that SNB is scum. I mean, the way he (she?) just hoped on your wagon was hilarious.sLaiNi wrote:
What are you going to learn if I flip town?
I figured it out in the middle of reading the whole thing, a few pages before Sakura posted it. And even if it didn't, I justified it with the votecounts, and they do matter in this case.Zexion wrote:
Sakura proposed the same based on our interactions. I don't mean he's pushing the exact same theory (Sakura based it on me defending Slaini, but it seems rEdo is basing over our lack of comunication until that point), but rather, that me being scum with Slaini is not even an original idea of rEdo.
omgusDrezi wrote:
I'm rereading the thread will detail rEdo posts, but I'll throw this out here. I think if sLaiNi is scum, he'll get lynched tomorrow no problem. Right now he's simply getting votes because of smaller questionable things, wordings etc, which COULD indicate scum, but it can just easily be attributed to being inexperienced, which makes the lynch weak overall.
I don't think the flip would give much information, because these reasions for wanting him lynched are pretty neutral, easy things to pick on, scum doesn't have to commit much "oh he did stupid stuff, he worded things badly I thought he was scum duh", and usually this is how town mislynches D1 go down, weaker town are happy that they can point at "suspicious" stuff and place their vote, and scum happily join.
Now that's interesting how you know Jess and Ace's alignment.Drezi wrote:
rEdo scum going a day longer on the other hand, could cause a mess, especially if I'm not around anymore, with their partner being the louder voices in town, getting town to go for some Jess or Ace lynch or whatever, the path of least resistance again.
Why did you need Nyquill to write before elaborating your thoughts, by the way?
When you look at other Hika's games, she's always been the type of person that keeps people paranoid because of lack of actual content.rEdo wrote:
Bah, not confirming that yet.Zexion wrote:
@rEdo: Before you claim "yeah Slaini/Zexion confirmed beacuse Zexion's deflecting votes or asdf", take a look at Hika's posting. You can't tell me there's nothing wrong there. Now that I meantion it, I remember saying the same to SNB...
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.10
[3] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi
[3] sLaiNi -- Navizel rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[1] Ace Timing -- -[Jess]-
[0] Zexion --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- 14.5 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
Note that the mod will be absent at deadline. It will still be enforced, but I will not be on this PC again until 2-3 hours after deadline hits Thanks for your patience in advance.
[3] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi
[3] sLaiNi -- Navizel rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[1] Ace Timing -- -[Jess]-
[0] Zexion --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- 14.5 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
Note that the mod will be absent at deadline. It will still be enforced, but I will not be on this PC again until 2-3 hours after deadline hits Thanks for your patience in advance.
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about wrt the sLaiNi case. After I read my own post, I suspected someone might try to find fault with this, and of course it's rEdorEdo wrote:
Now that's interesting how you know Jess and Ace's alignment.Drezi wrote:
rEdo scum going a day longer on the other hand, could cause a mess, especially if I'm not around anymore, with their partner being the louder voices in town, getting town to go for some Jess or Ace lynch or whatever, the path of least resistance again.
I simply picked two people who I don't think are scum with rEdo, and would be potential mislynch targets for a rEdo scumteam due to not being too experienced/widely townread.
And here you go making it out like I know their alignment, this is how bullshit cases can be made easily, without risking much. If anything scum is more likely to eliminate any misunderstandable stuff from their posts. We need to look for scum intention behind posts instead, and that I can see for Hika, and rEdo.
Alright so:
"Isn't it the same what sLaiNi's been doing" is very weak of an excuse to supposedly clear yourself and then keep asking people:
As for sincerely believing that sLaiNi is the best lynch here... he keeps asking why we're not voting sLaiNi over him, yet he hasn't even voted sLaiNi himself until much later, only after I asked him. I really don't see his actions solidly reflecting his posts Nyquill.
If you go as far as to question others why their vote is not on X, than the minimum I'd expect is to have your own vote there, and not "wait for others" first. I just see it as fence sitting, and trying not to commit the vote until he sees if it looks like his best chance at getting someone else lynched.
This again, I don't claim that pointing at stuff like this is scummy in itself or useless, but it's certainly not something I'd base a day's lynch on, and it's sort of an easy risk free tactic scum can resort to (since you use objective facts, not your opinion/reads so it can't really backfire, like making a shitty forced subjective read could).rEdo wrote:
Am I missing something or is this a fucking scumclaim?sLaiNi wrote:
That's so right. That is something I should definitly change. But that has nothing to do with me being scum, [...]
This as been mentioned before, and has been explained. Bringing it up again just shows he hasn't really made an honest effort to read the thread, he just looked for things he could point fingers at.rEdo wrote:
So you said it'd be better to wait for a replacement, yet you voted her, okay.sLaiNi wrote:
I have to say that Jess' didn't contribute a lot. Still, I don't think we should vote her just now.
So I will vote Hika for known reasons. But as we aren't in a hurry it might be a good idea to wait for her replacement, wouldn't it?
Again, this tells me he hasn't really read the thread, only looked for stuff he can attack OR he's just lazily dismissing everything I pointed out about Hika and is trying to shift stuff to sLaiNi instead.rEdo wrote:
Like honestly, I don't really see a case against Hika except for being lurky as fuck and voting people for shiggles, but isn't that the same thing sLaiNi's been doing?
"Isn't it the same what sLaiNi's been doing" is very weak of an excuse to supposedly clear yourself and then keep asking people:
Except for actually checking Hika's alignment? Really? That's the laziest defense argument ever (and the explanation is VERY bland and generic), especially given that sLaiNi is the other option, and I think that would be the lynch with less information due to reasons I stated a post or two before. If you try to make a point like this you'd better prove that you sincerely believe it to be the case, and support it with good explanations.rEdo wrote:
@everyone: Please tell me why a Hika/rEdo lynch is better than a sLaiNi lynch. Do you get any information from this except for actually checking Hika''s alignment? I don't think she talked with anyone, I believe there's just no links that you connect with her.
As for sincerely believing that sLaiNi is the best lynch here... he keeps asking why we're not voting sLaiNi over him, yet he hasn't even voted sLaiNi himself until much later, only after I asked him. I really don't see his actions solidly reflecting his posts Nyquill.
If you go as far as to question others why their vote is not on X, than the minimum I'd expect is to have your own vote there, and not "wait for others" first. I just see it as fence sitting, and trying not to commit the vote until he sees if it looks like his best chance at getting someone else lynched.
After the previous stuff, this is just bad, why would he appear to disregard the several things I pointed out before, if he needs information as much as he'd like us to believe? Looks fake.rEdo wrote:
I'm really close to thinking this is a sLaiNi & Zexion scumteam, but I really need information to work with.
Wow so you're setting up lynches too, HOW NICE, if we lynch town, than you'll tell us who we should lynch next, this is something scum is happy to do that's for sure.rEdo wrote:
That there will be a high possibility that SNB is scum. I mean, the way he (she?) just hoped on your wagon was hilarious.sLaiNi wrote:
What are you going to learn if I flip town?
SPOILER
I don't think you know what that means.rEdo wrote:
omgusDrezi wrote:
I'm rereading the thread will detail rEdo posts, but I'll throw this out here...
So why are we not lynching anyone in D1
unvote
vote:rEdo
I am agree what Drezi said about rEdo.
About slaini.....let him live in D1 :^)maybe?
vote:rEdo
I am agree what Drezi said about rEdo.
About slaini.....let him live in D1 :^)maybe?
We have plurality lynch in this game amirite
lmao I'm actually eating the rope
I want you to lynch somebody from {Drezi, sLaiNi, Zexion} tomorrow. Either works, to be honest. I already stated my logic on sLaiNi-Zexion, Drezi just sucks balls.
I want you to lynch somebody from {Drezi, sLaiNi, Zexion} tomorrow. Either works, to be honest. I already stated my logic on sLaiNi-Zexion, Drezi just sucks balls.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was scum afraid of sLaiNi flipping town and being paranoid about my turn-around on him at this point.
yes I'm mad
yes I'm mad
Anyway I'm tired of elaborating everything to Drezi, since this guy once said
and then he's just pointing out everything that might be a flaw in my process of thought, tellling me I'm scum. Fucking hypocrite.Drezi wrote:
If anything scum is more likely to eliminate any misunderstandable stuff from their posts.
You addressed my points quite nicely.rEdo wrote:
Drezi just sucks balls.
Also the nonexistent case you made on sLaiNi is of excellent quality (wait there was "guys why me, over him?")
Just watch me flip town, you'll try to reverse back ALL the nonsense you're trying to fill my mouth with. If you are too fucking dumb to see stuff yourself, then it's your problem. Lead the town to despair. Good luck, I'm done.
Your posts don't contain misunderstandable sentances, your posts show lack of proper reading of the thread, and fingerpointing at the most viable other wagon...
You still have time to refute all the nonsense I'm filling your mouth with. If it indeed is, than it shouldn't be too hard.
Have we all forgotten all if the suspicious things that Slaini has done. Like his rolefishing in the middle of Sakura questioning me.
Why are you so sure about his claim bring real?[/quote]
Not to mention the dodge that occurred right after being questioned on it
Another thing, assuming that rEdo and Slaini are both town, do you honestly expect that Slaini will be a great help in finding scum?
Pretty good for a mobile post eh?
sLaiNi wrote:
But that's not what I was asking, try again.Sakura wrote:
I can tell you didnt read his ISO, otherwise you'd have read this:
[quo.te="Navizel"]Heck, I could even claim right now that I am a jailkeeper.
Why are you so sure about his claim bring real?[/quote]
Not to mention the dodge that occurred right after being questioned on it
Pretty suspicious imo...sLaiNi wrote:
I guess we have a big misscommunication there.
So just forget it. It won't bring us any further.
Another thing, assuming that rEdo and Slaini are both town, do you honestly expect that Slaini will be a great help in finding scum?
Pretty good for a mobile post eh?
Had to fuck up the quotes so that it would post, but it should still be readable
This is something I only wanted to post at twilight, so here it is.
An other reason for me wanting a rEdo lynch today is because I don't trust Sakura/Nyquill just yet. What I said about Sakura was true, but there are things that made me wary too.
That is, the way Sakura approached the idea of a Hika lynch was off. She just felt really reluctant to vote her and even more so to keep that vote there, and I didn't really think this reluctancy was justified based on the stregth of the alternatives even if she had that gut townread at first.
After the Navi stuff she voted sLaiNi first, then when things were explained she decided to throw a (at that time -) lurker vote on Ace, ignoring Hika until I specifically asked her about it, then questioned my read, only to admit a bit later that yeah she kinda gets what I'm saying, and voted Hika, but soon enough she moved her vote away based on a single apparently "bad" post:
Where I'm going with this is that this continoued expressed intent to vote Hika, while actually not doing so, and voting anything else slightly feasible doesn't sit well with me, it's like "oh well I'll take the chance to bus in case she ends up getting lynched, but let's just lynch someone else, right".
Also note that Nyquill somewhat continued this behavior,
So a townflip on rEdo would still at least dispell these doubts I have, clear this up and allow me to trust Sakura/Nyquill, while a scumflip would give me a scumread for the final scum too. I wanted Nyquill's feedback on rEdo first to see if he'd vote or point out some of the stuff I did on his own accord.
An other reason for me wanting a rEdo lynch today is because I don't trust Sakura/Nyquill just yet. What I said about Sakura was true, but there are things that made me wary too.
That is, the way Sakura approached the idea of a Hika lynch was off. She just felt really reluctant to vote her and even more so to keep that vote there, and I didn't really think this reluctancy was justified based on the stregth of the alternatives even if she had that gut townread at first.
After the Navi stuff she voted sLaiNi first, then when things were explained she decided to throw a (at that time -) lurker vote on Ace, ignoring Hika until I specifically asked her about it, then questioned my read, only to admit a bit later that yeah she kinda gets what I'm saying, and voted Hika, but soon enough she moved her vote away based on a single apparently "bad" post:
Expressed intent to vote Hika but later:Sakura wrote:
I think i should stay off this game until i wake up tomorrow, coz right now i feel like i want to hit someone.
I mean that reads posts was so bad im at a loss for words.
Unvote
Vote: Ace
Back here.
Maybe i'll sheep you again on Hika tomorrow or not, pending on Ace's replies.
Just voicing intent to vote again, and:Sakura wrote:
Oh >_>Ace Timing wrote:
You still seem to think that I thought that Slaini was town BECAUSE of the fact that he was being suspected. I didn't think that those were justified, so I used him.
Ok now i feel like a derp
Actually the more i talk with you the less convinced you're scum, but i had to make sure.
Unvote
Normally i'd sheep Drezi onto Hika here, but if she's getting replaced soon i want to hear from the replacement first, besides, we're not in a rush.
Voting someone else based on more of a whim yet again, over actually voting Hika.Sakura wrote:
I could care less what alignment Navizel is right now, i mentioned this several times but you seem intent in misreping me.
Vote: Slaini
There's no way this person's town.
Where I'm going with this is that this continoued expressed intent to vote Hika, while actually not doing so, and voting anything else slightly feasible doesn't sit well with me, it's like "oh well I'll take the chance to bus in case she ends up getting lynched, but let's just lynch someone else, right".
Also note that Nyquill somewhat continued this behavior,
and haven't voted rEdo as of (pre-)writing this post, he appears to have liked rEdo's posts (p/4302364/), which I don't really understand and he didn't really elaborate since.Nyquill wrote:
Hika's the best lynch via PoE, but I'm not moving Sakura's vote because sLaini's move onto the Hika wagon felt paranoid.
So a townflip on rEdo would still at least dispell these doubts I have, clear this up and allow me to trust Sakura/Nyquill, while a scumflip would give me a scumread for the final scum too. I wanted Nyquill's feedback on rEdo first to see if he'd vote or point out some of the stuff I did on his own accord.
Navizel wrote:
We have plurality lynch in this game amirite
So yeah we're lyching today.Mod wrote:
2.7) If deadline is reached without anyone ever hitting the lynch threshold, then a lynch will only occur if someone is at one vote below the lynch threshold. If multiple, then the first one to hit it will be lynched.
Of course it's suspicious. I don't plan to forget anytime soon Slaini's actions, but right now the best course of action seems to be the other lynch. Personally I would like to see how Slaini plays the following day in order to make a strong conclusion.Ace Timing wrote:
Pretty suspicious imo...sLaiNi wrote:
I guess we have a big misscommunication there.
So just forget it. It won't bring us any further.
Another thing, assuming that rEdo and Slaini are both town, do you honestly expect that Slaini will be a great help in finding scum?
Pretty good for a mobile post eh?
Everyone should cooperate to find scum, what's your point there? If Slaini doesn't do anything in that point he will most likely be lynched soon, same as the other lurker. (you know who I'm talking about)
It will be confirmed only when it works better for you. I love that logic.rEdo wrote:
Bah, not confirming that yet.Zexion wrote:
@rEdo: Before you claim "yeah Slaini/Zexion confirmed beacuse Zexion's deflecting votes or asdf", take a look at Hika's posting. You can't tell me there's nothing wrong there. Now that I meantion it, I remember saying the same to SNB...
I freaking hate meta as an argument. It seems like a poor excuse for everyone to justify some really bad playstyles. Sure, go on believing players will behave exactly the same way acording to their alignement.rEdo wrote:
When you look at other Hika's games, she's always been the type of person that keeps people paranoid because of lack of actual content.rEdo wrote:
Bah, not confirming that yet.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.11
[4] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi, -[Jess]- [L-1]
[3] sLaiNi -- Navizel rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- -3 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
[4] rEdo -- Drezi, Zexion, sLaiNi, -[Jess]- [L-1]
[3] sLaiNi -- Navizel rEdo, Static Noise Bird
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6). <-------- -3 HOURS FROM NOW
Static Noise Bird is V/LA until after day ends (July 5).
Topic Starter
Oh dear.
rEdo, Town Vanilla, has been lynched day one.
It is now Night one. Deadline is July 5th, 6:15PM CST (GMT-6). This is exactly 48 hours from now.
rEdo, Town Vanilla, has been lynched day one.
It is now Night one. Deadline is July 5th, 6:15PM CST (GMT-6). This is exactly 48 hours from now.