kekekek sorry this is old map hueExPew wrote:
[Usagi's 7K HD]
Nice, just need to remap several parts due to difficulty spike
01:21:121 (81121|3,81196|3) - I'm okay with this note not being included with the snapping issue on other difficulties because you picked the different instrument isn't it? // heheheh, i thought it's follow the pr, and some people could use 2 thumbs to execute, but yes, since this is HD, removed
01:35:671 to 01:40:396 - Inbalance/difficult spike - I'm sure these holds are being used too much and not suitable for Hard icon or a ballance difficulty spread. I recommend you to remap this part and make it more balance as a 'Hard' icon/spread // everything more simplified now... like how its supposed to be HD, done
kekTifyron wrote:
Some things for the HD diff.
My main problem with this one is the arbitrary single notes turning into LN, and LN overlapping when its only a single instrument playing. // x___x please don't get bothered, i love doing this on almost all of my chart...
Important stuff is marked in red, the rest is mostly suggestions.Usagi's 7k HDI'll probably have a look at MX later today or tomorrow.00:23:971
Add a note for the main synth since 00:23:971 (23971|1) is mapped to the drums.
00:24:571
Same as above.
// regarding this part, i previously put double notes around here, but i removed them since we got 00:23:821 (23821|5,23896|3) - for right hand execution, tho, i do this on same 2/1 beat.. so yeah, keep
00:26:071 (26071|3,26371|6,26671|5)
These should be single notes, this synth is mapped as singles before. If you want to keep this as LN regardless, 00:26:671 (26671|5) that LN should break at 00:26:821 because the 3 note stair that follows is the same instrument.
// i do that on purpose to make the pattern more vary, keep
00:27:871 (27871|4,28171|2)
These should be single notes, same reason as above. If you want to keep this as LN regardless, 00:27:871 (27871|4) should break at 00:28:171 for the same reason as above. Refer to 01:06:271 (66271|5,66571|1) because the same pattern here is properly broken mid-way.
// same reason above, keep
00:28:771
Add a note for the main synth since 00:28:771 (28771|1) is mapped to the drums.
// ==a keep like before
00:29:371
Same as above.
// hue
00:30:871 (30871|4,31171|6,31471|5)
Same situation and reasoning as 00:26:071 (26071|3,26371|6,26671|5).
//==a keep tho
00:32:671 (32671|4,32971|2)
I'm not sure i understand why these LN are here and which instrument they are mapped to. I highly recommend removing them and further mapping the percussion instruments that you started with at 00:32:071. It would fill that area up nicely and stays consistent with the earlier notes.
// previously i mapped the drum like you said, but i reduced this part tho earlier.. keep
00:33:496 (33496|3)
Remove this note as it is not mapped to anything.
// damn it echoe.. done
00:42:571 (42571|0,42646|1,42721|2,42796|3)
I'd recommend changing these to LN for consistency as that instrument is mapped to LN in the upcoming section.
// i did that too earlier, but it would sightly make it lot harder than HD..
00:52:171 (52171|2,52246|3,52321|4,52396|5) -
Same as above.
// keep
00:52:471 (52471|6)
Extend this LN to 00:53:671.
00:54:721 (54721|2,54796|1)
Change these to LN for consistency with the LN mapping for this instrument.
// hue keep again
00:56:671 to 00:57:271
This section should have LNs for the main flute, feels weird to have a gap when the instrument doesn't stop.
// i know, and i guess i will re-do this part... wew harder
01:00:496 (60496|2)
Remove this note, it's not mapped to anything.
// i hear there's a synth sound here... likely previous triplet stairs.. keep
01:00:571 (60571|0,60646|1,60721|2,60796|3,60871|4)
These should be LN for consistency. It could also be changed slightly to flow better into the next long LN like this.
// keep
01:01:096 (61096|0,61321|1,61471|2,61696|3,61921|4)
I recommend shifting all these 1 column to the right, because 01:00:871 (60871|0) should be an LN since its the same instrument.
// and make it more bracket-ish... it would be harder to execute.. keep
01:03:271 to 01:04:171
The difficulty increase for this section by making them doubles doesn't make a lot of sense, its still only the main synth + percussion. I'd recommend keeping the same pattern as 00:29:671.
// no change
01:04:471 (64471|3,64771|6,65071|5)
Same issue and reason as above at 00:26:071 (26071|3,26371|6,26671|5).
// ==a nope
01:06:271 (66271|5,66571|1)
I'd make these singles.
// hue no pls
01:08:071 to 01:08:971
Same reasoning as before where i mentioned them becoming doubles compared to earlier in the song, when its still sounds the same. I'd recommend keeping the same pattern as 00:29:671.
// hue keep
01:09:271 (69271|3,69571|6,69871|5)
Same issue and reason as above at 00:26:071 (26071|3,26371|6,26671|5).
// waarf nuu.. D:
01:11:071 (71071|0,71221|0)
These should be shifted up 1/4 like this. The cymbals alternate instead of being hit at the same time.
// would work either way, but i prefer like this.. keep
01:11:671 - 01:20:671
I'd highly recommend mapping the flute in this entire section, it feels way too empty as it is now. Plus the section before it isn't particularly intense to warrant such a long break.
// huwaa pls i prefer this part really silent..
01:12:871 (72871|3)
This should be a single note.
// keep
01:17:671 (77671|3)
Same as above.
// keep
01:20:671 to 01:21:271
I'd highly recommend changing this section, the 2 LN are basically mapped to nothing. Something like this might work, the triple drums would be consistent with 01:18:721 and the flute is basically a simple 1/4 stair.
// you know i layer the bass there... keep
01:21:271 to 01:22:471
This area should also have flute mapping since the upcoming area does as well.
// hue no.. it works either way
01:26:071 (86071|5)
This LN should stop at 01:26:671 since the pitch changes and its only 1 instrument.
// keep
01:26:671 (86671|1)
This LN should extend all the way to 01:28:171 if you want it to be an LN in the first place.
// keep
01:27:271 (87271|3)
This should be a single note.
// T-T keep
01:30:571 (90571|6,90608|5,90646|4,90683|1,90721|2,90758|3,90796|4,90833|5,90871|6)
These make very little sense. It's not a 1/8 stair, its still a 1/4 stair like 01:30:271 (90271|6,90346|4,90421|2,90496|0). The only difference there is the 4 drum hits in the background during that.
// ==a but its snapped properly.. keep
01:30:871
An LN mapped to the background synth should start here, it is the same instrument as 01:31:171 (91171|6,91471|4,91771|2) and so on.
// you know i map those LNs consistently every 3 beat later... its on purpose either, i layer the 'most' audible sound only.. keep
01:32:071
Same as above.
01:33:271
Same as above.
01:34:471
Same as above.
// keep
01:35:371 to 01:35:971
There should be 2 LN in this area, same as above.
// keep
01:35:971 (95971|1,96271|2,96571|3,96871|0,97171|1,97471|2,97771|3)
This is probably the worst part of the map. These are mapped to the background synth as before but they are artificially extended to create a massive difficulty spike that really does not fit in this difficulty. This is where the LN should stop, its still just the same background synth changing pitch.
// changed as ExPew suggested
01:38:071 to 01:40:471
From this area onwards the same background synth still plays, why does the mapping for it have 01:38:071 (98071|4) in it? That LN should be 3 separate ones with the same length as before. The background synth continues all the way to 01:40:471 and should really be mapped for consistency.
i switch the layering there, so yea, keep
01:35:671 (95671|6)
This high-pitched flute is really hard to hear, might not warrant its own LN. Also the sound ends at 01:38:071, not 01:38:896.
// keep
01:38:971 (98971|6,99046|3)
Remove these, they aren't mapped to anything.
// there's exact sound to layer, keep
01:39:271 (99271|6,99496|5,99721|4,99871|5,100171|6)
These should be removed entirely, they're basically mapped to nothing and even if they were they really don't fit in this difficulty. I'd recommend just changing that section to a percussion map like earlier on in the song.
// changed as expew suggested..
01:40:771 to 01:41:971
I'm not sure the difficulty bump here to doubles is really needed, this part sounds exactly the same as earlier in the song which makes these added notes basically ghost notes.
// disagree, keep
01:41:971 (101971|2,102121|3,102271|4,102421|5,102571|6,102721|4,102871|5,103021|3)
These should be single notes, as earlier in the song they are mapped as such. No need to increase difficulty for no reason.
// disagree, its layered properly to the music, check again.. keep
01:43:171 (103171|0,103471|6,103771|3,103921|4,103996|5)
These should be singles, same reason as above.
// keep, disagree either
01:44:971 (104971|4,105271|0)
I'd recommend these be singles as well, but at least they are breaking properly unlike the start of the song.
// nope... keep
01:45:271 (105271|5,105421|5,105571|6)
These should be removed, they are basically duplicates of the triple drum. The sound isn't any louder than before so it should really be singles.
// noticed that, removed some
01:45:871
This section is again doubles for no reason, basically ghost notes.
// check again, i layer 2 different instrument there..
01:46:771 (106771|2,106921|3,107071|4,107221|6,107371|5,107521|4,107671|2,107821|1,107971|0,108271|6,108571|0,108721|1,108796|2)
These should all be singles for consistency with earlier mapping.
// keep.. it works either way but i dont like mapping too repetitive
01:49:771 (109771|5)
This should be a single note, there is nothing that's being held down.
// keep
01:52:321 (112321|6,112396|4,112471|2,112471|5,112546|3,112621|4,112621|1,112696|2,112771|0)
This section makes very little sense, this is basically what it sounds like. Not in that exact pattern of course.
// 01:52:171 (112171|2,112471|2,112621|1,112771|0) - these notes represent kicks, while this 01:52:321 (112321|6,112396|4,112471|5,112546|3,112621|4,112696|2,112771|3) - represent synth..
note: you might need to check more closely before judging / making mod...
01:52:621 (112621|1)
Remove this note, there is no drum hit here. 01:52:471 (112471|2) is the drum hit, and hit sound should be added to that one instead.
// keep, reason above
01:52:771 (112771|3,113071|2,113371|0,113521|3,113596|6)
These make no sense again. I can somewhat understand the first 2 being LN if you really want to keep it that way, but the last 3 should really be only singles. It's only 1 instrument.
// i do this all over the song, i designed the LN to works that way.. no reason to change
01:54:571 (114571|6,114871|3)
These should be singles, or the right LN should break properly at 01:54:871. Still only 1 instrument.
// keep, reason above
01:56:371 (116371|4,116521|5,116671|6,116821|2,116971|1,117121|0,117271|5,117421|4,117571|3,117871|2,118171|3,118321|1,118396|5)
All of these are basically the same as before, they should really be single notes and the last 3 are only 1 instrument so they should not overlap and break properly.
// keep, it plays nicely and layered properly
01:58:921 (118921|5,119071|1)
Remove these notes.
// rearranged some, it would works either way
02:01:021 (121021|3)
This LN should end at 02:01:171.
wow never got these bunch of mods lately.. x__x thanks!Redon wrote:
Here are some ideas from me about things that I think could be improved, I hope they are helpful.
! - Important issue that I think is or should be unrankable
+ - Opinion/suggestion of how I would do something differently, this is up to you
[Usagi's 7K HD]
The first half of the map is excellent.
! 01:12:871 (72871|3) - This LN is unnecessary, the end of it is mapped to nothing -> pretty much a ghost note. Just make it a single note.
! 01:15:271 (75271|3) - ^
! 01:17:671 (77671|3) - ^
! 01:20:071 (80071|3) - ^
// disagree, ghost notes means there's no "Cue" sound to layer.. keep
01:15:271 There's a bass drum note you didn't map here. Add notes in column 6 and 7 (or 1 and 2)?
01:20:071 ^
// keep
01:21:121 (81121|3,81196|3,81271|4,81271|2) - I think this pattern doesn't play so well, and it's not appropriate for the difficulty. The player this diff is aimed at will most likely miss here, or cheese it with a bad
// changed as ExPew suggested
What are the LNs for? you didn't map any of the flute for the rest of the section. I think it would be better to use something simple and follow the drums like you have https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3148507
// did people really dont hear the BG bass? keep
01:27:271 (87271|3) - Again, turn LN into a single note
// keep
! 01:30:571 (90571|6,90608|5,90646|4,90683|1,90721|2,90758|3,90796|4,90833|5) - There is nothing about the music in this section that is 1/8. I'd consider these ghost notes/overmapped in any diff, but on top of that for a HD diff it feels out of place. Just map it 1/4 like the music is, and maybe add double notes for the bass drum if you want it to be more difficult, like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3148561
// agree that this is HD, and its out of place.. but then its not overmapped because those notes snapped to exactly drum sound.. i will consider to remap this
! 01:35:671 - 01:40:471 One Two I think this entire section is LN abuse. It's the main reason I'm writing this mod. I wonder why this is in the map, here are some things to consider:// remapped as ExPew suggested
- - The section sounds the same as the four measures before it, there is no reason why it should suddenly be spammed with LN layering
- The patterns are not appropriate for a HD difficulty, the player this is aimed at will have no clue how to play this. Guaranteed misses for anyone who can't also play insane noodle fests.
- It does not match the music, the starts and ends of LNs belong to different sounds just for the sake of layering, or relate to nothing at all and/or end on 1/4 ticks
Examples:
01:35:671 (95671|6) - What is this mapped to?
01:35:971 (95971|1,96271|2,96571|3,96871|0,97171|1,97471|2,97771|3,98071|4) - What are the ends of these LNs mapped to, if it's the flute, why is the sound suddenly longer?
For example, why does 01:35:971 (95971|1) not end at 01:36:271 ?
01:35:671 (95671|6,98071|4) - Why do these LNs end on a 1/4 tick? What sound are they mapped to that ends there? This does not play well.
01:39:496 (99496|5,99721|4) - ^
01:39:271 (99271|6,99871|5) - ^
01:40:171 (100171|6) - ^
^ None of this seems very good to me and I think it would be better to remap the section to something like 01:30:871 - 01:35:671 with slightly more notes added if you want to increase the difficulty of it. It makes me a little sad to see that many otherwise really good diffs are ruined by LN spam sections that make no sense at all. Sorry for the harsh words.
+ 01:40:771 - 01:59:971 Suggestion to consider: This Kiai section sounds similar to the one at the beginning of the map, but it is a lot more dense in comparison. Even the hardest patterns of the first half are easy compared to to this. Maybe that's intentional as a climax point, but I think it's important to strive to make a balanced difficulty or players will find the start too easy or the end too difficult. It seemed a bit odd to me that you made sure to keep the patterns at the beginning simple but by the end you have things like this in there https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3148728 ?
// you could notice this phase has higher tense, based of the music.. i do this to follow the music feeling... keep
01:49:621 (109621|6,109771|5) - Again, I think the LNs make this way harder than it needs to be for a HD diff. Would be fine without LNs, or keep it at one LN for the synth if you like, I don't think it makes sense to map two LNs to the same instrument repeating the same pitch.
How about something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3148769
// naah this should be easier to judge, also i reduced all things as QAT mention...
+ 01:58:771 - 01:59:221 I think this part could be improved, I don't really see the need for the 2 note chords on 01:58:921 and 01:59:071 where it's just the flute/synth. It might also tempt players to cheese it as a downward stairs pattern.
You could consider using something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3148711 A pattern like this keeps PR for 01:58:771 (118771|4,118921|2,119071|4,119221|6,119371|6), and the contrast between the flute/synth and the 3/4 drum hits.
// keep, the more i change this part the more i confused.. x_x
also, @remillion cross, you could do some 1/8 stream on 01:30:571 - in MX / SC diff, so i can safely remove this streamy part for appropriate diff
and also sorry guys, most of them are not changed.. only several part that mentioned by ExPew.. thanks for your time though
plus, LNP please fix the metadata.. :u have no time for that
http://puu.sh/i0ZVk.osu