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EneT
^ This. Although The thing about Katarina is, she's one of those champions that stomps on low elo players. You don't have to win lane and it doesn't matter how much CC the enemy has; her clean-up is so good she just has to be in the right place at the right time and BAM she's suddenly fed.
Dainesl
Well, if you have some very hard cc and you support a katarina with a planned gank, you could possibly get her a free triple even if she's something like 2/5/1, which is insane. I've done it before, it's possible if you can execute the cc properly.

Slightly off-topic but relevant, Nidalee seems to be one of those champs who stomps on low Elo players like me; although that's probably 'cause I'm bad :P
Seriously, her spear does like ridiculous amounts of damage from what I see; since I normally play squishy champs as soon as I'm hit with that spear at ANY POINT in the game, it's normally near full range so I lose 20-40% HP.
-SayaKai
D:
EneT

Dainesl wrote:

Slightly off-topic but relevant, Nidalee seems to be one of those champs who stomps on low Elo players like me; although that's probably 'cause I'm bad :P
Seriously, her spear does like ridiculous amounts of damage from what I see; since I normally play squishy champs as soon as I'm hit with that spear at ANY POINT in the game, it's normally near full range so I lose 20-40% HP.
That is probably due to poor positioning and warding; I used to main Nidalee before her rework and it was so easy to take advantage of people due to this. The thing is, in order for a nidalee to take advantage of this she has to put herself in a poor position so as long as warding is done right you can shut her down pretty easily.
Dainesl
Yeah, that sounds about right, thing is though people can't ward or position as well as those in higher levels so she can be extremely annoying if you're unable to shut her down
Renevant

Dainesl wrote:

thing is though people can't ward or position
which is also why akali is an easy pubstomper in low elo. People never think to get a pink.
Dainesl
I don't get that many pinks throughout the game despite maining support. Only like, 2 or 3 most of the time, and nobody else thinks to upgrade their trinket/buy pinks, which, of course, leads to poor vision control and thus lots of deaths that could've been prevented
EneT
Always have a pink in your inventory even if you already have one placed down; also leave one inventory space dedicated for pinks. Don't be afraid to place your pink down wherever. It's a small difference but it's the small differences that make you win the game e.g. Pushing botlane lvl 1 for an earlier lvl 2 can win you the lane is another good example.
DaddyCoolVipper
I've noticed that playing defensively is generally the best way to assassinate people. As Rengar I played a game where I focused exclusively on counterganks and overextended enemies instead of trying to make #bigplays and it got my fed really easily.
Conor
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Renevant
ugh, this patch is doing that thing again where the login screen crashes each time you log in.

Had to go searching for my old BAT file that closes everything
Blaziken

World First S+ Morgana
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Dainesl wrote:

Well, if you have some very hard cc and you support a katarina with a planned gank, you could possibly get her a free triple even if she's something like 2/5/1, which is insane. I've done it before, it's possible if you can execute the cc properly.

Slightly off-topic but relevant, Nidalee seems to be one of those champs who stomps on low Elo players like me; although that's probably 'cause I'm bad :P
Seriously, her spear does like ridiculous amounts of damage from what I see; since I normally play squishy champs as soon as I'm hit with that spear at ANY POINT in the game, it's normally near full range so I lose 20-40% HP.
Nidalee is dumb as shit

Im looking at you jungle nidalees
Aurani

Blaziken wrote:


World First S+ Morgana
What kind of Ashe ends up with a 162 farm at the 42nd minute mark.... what is that, Bronze XXVIII?
Conor
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Froslass

Aurani wrote:

Blaziken wrote:


World First S+ Morgana
What kind of Ashe ends up with a 162 farm at the 42nd minute mark.... what is that, Bronze XXVIII?
Pretty sure she has disconnected. Look at the gold amount and the red name in the top right

Conor wrote:

Aurani wrote:

What kind of Ashe ends up with a 162 farm at the 42nd minute mark.... what is that, Bronze XXVIII?
What kind of match ends up with the enemy Jungler having the most farm in the game? Not even by a small amount, either.


That's their top laner. tp-smite meta, don't forget. Jungler is actually Lee Sin
Conor
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OzzyOzrock
top smite is fun

but fucked up
DaddyCoolVipper


:>

20 stacks sword of the occult too!
Jordan


That was just brutal

None of them was actually trolling Lee went ap after they were 0/26 or something
Conor
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Dainesl
Wow, you actually went 37-0 o.o that was awesome, tell me how to do that esp. in ranked ;w; (never had one of those games, best I had was like, 50-7)
Aurani

Blue Dragon wrote:

Pretty sure she has disconnected. Look at the gold amount and the red name in the top right
What about the enemy Vayne? I'm PRETTY sure she couldn't have disconnected, judging by the amount of times she died, which is EXACTLY why she had such pathetic farm alongside Ashe (who most likely did DC).

Then again, it is a normal match - not ranked... people there are trying out champions for the first time instead of going into custom games, so that might explain everything.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

Then again, it is a normal match - not ranked... people there are trying out champions for the first time instead of going into custom games, so that might explain everything.
Well every ADC is pretty much the same in terms of functionality so that person still doesn't have an excuse #UltraLowEloNormals
Aurani
Thing is, ADCs are in my opinion the most difficult role to play when your team is utter shit. Just think of it - you NEED them to act like a living shield for you, so you can deal damage without the slightest possibility of being damaged, but most of the time every moron goes for whatever he wants, and not what the team needs, so you're left there with 1500 HP against all those assassins and mages who deal a k damage on their ults alone, so yeah, have fun being left to rot by your own team - your greatest enemies.

In a ranked, I always viewed my teammates as my enemies as well. I need to suck their ego dick so they can be happy and not rage quit, I need to give them the feeling that they're the ones carrying the match AND keep tabs on their personality, so I know who to block immediately.
Your opponents are much easier to control, so the true victory lies in whether or not you can satisfy your own team full of wannabe animu heroes who think their life matters the most.

Either that or just skip everything I wrote if you're Challenger and completely eat their faces off without giving a single fuck about your team, because you don't even need them.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

Thing is, ADCs are in my opinion the most difficult role to play when your team is utter shit.
That's something I tell everyone; it's the hardest role to carry. My most hated role but contains some of my most favourite champs. Because of that, I mained mid for a few years since it was the most fun/easiest role to carry but the recent mid meta right now just isn't to my liking so I've been forced to main ADC again. Vayne still remains my most favourite champ since she's just that kind of ADC that can do anything by herself in the right hands: Kiting, self-peel, out-duel, damage.
Aurani
I actually came back to League not even a month ago and met up with an old friend, played a few ranked matches with her, and she was amazed to hear that I absolutely HATE ADCs now. I used to be a Diamond-level player back in s1 with my ADCs, and now? Oh I don't even want to know how low I am on the skill ladder nowadays when it comes to that role - simply because I start hating my life every time I pick it up and have an incompetent support. If he lacks lane presence, you might as well be fucking 1v2 bot, seriously.

I'm confident, however, that my best role currently is top (my once most hated one), with mid and support being right after it - and I damn used to adore mid and only mid, due to Scarra's streams back in the day.

I still miss s2, though - the time when I genuinely had fun playing League. =(
Renevant
lol, didnt even realize hexakill was back until i saw it on the matchmaking list. No hype i guess
Feast
All the hype is on Ekko
Aurani
Damnit Riot, stop defecating champions left and right, my IP needs a break.
DaddyCoolVipper
Ekko is so disgustingly OP right now, Riot don't even hide the fact that they want to sell him tons before the nerfs
Froslass

DaddyCoolVipper wrote:

Ekko is so disgustingly OP right now, Riot don't even hide the fact that they want to sell him tons before the nerfs
Wasn't it like that with Gnar, Kalista and Rek'sai as well? I honestly see not much difference

BTW Luden's Echo on Twisted Treeline is so fucking unbalanced.. just build it as first item and there's your win
Vulf

DaddyCoolVipper wrote:

Ekko is so disgustingly OP right now, Riot don't even hide the fact that they want to sell him tons before the nerfs
Where have you been for like.. 3 years? This is nothing new at all.
Feast

Vulf wrote:

DaddyCoolVipper wrote:

Ekko is so disgustingly OP right now, Riot don't even hide the fact that they want to sell him tons before the nerfs
Where have you been for like.. 3 years? This is nothing new at all.
I don't know... the last 10 champions were not all op (Vel'Koz not op, Gnar was not op before buffs, Azir was completly bugged, Bard was... really bad) but gotta agree a lot of them were completly broken (Jinx, Yasuo, Ekko, Rek'Sai, Braum, Kalista...)
Justykanna
I'm kinda hoping they focus on reworks (*coough*Gangplank) rather than releases but I have little confidence that that's their focus.
OzzyOzrock
PBE looks super stale right now. I wanted something to do besides get dino skins. Bleh.
Vulf

Justykanna wrote:

I'm kinda hoping they focus on reworks (*coough*Gangplank) rather than releases but I have little confidence that that's their focus.
It was their focus for like 3 months at the end of season 3.
The lack of "real" reworks is one reason I quit this game.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

I'm kinda hoping they focus on reworks (*coough*Gangplank) rather than releases but I have little confidence that that's their focus.
It was their focus for like 3 months at the end of season 3.
The lack of "real" reworks is one reason I quit this game.
Basically when I didn't really play yet lol.
It's not enough to make me quit because I still like the game. Just a preference thing to me.
Aurani
It's exactly because of everyone whining about balance and reworks that they made the game so goddamn generic and meh in terms of quality.

EVERY champion back in the day used to be OP in one way or another (except Urgot, because fuck Urgot), and starting s3, when LoL became a giant, all the casual fucks started searching for EVERY flaw that might make a champion "OP" and spam Riot to nerf it.

If you think current champions are broken, you should've seen AP Yi's laning phase. Still, it wasn't hard to kill him at all with proper plays and CC. People just declare every champion as OP when they find it too much of a bother to actually THINK of a way to counter them and put some effort into killing them.

Of all the recently released champions, Kalista is the only SERIOUSLY broken as fuck one.
PyaKura
What, do you mean you'd prefer the return of stuff like AP Yi over what they have been doing over the past 2 years ? Yeah because Nida throwing spears from 2 miles away and chunking down 90% of your health was OP and perfectly balanced as well.
L M A O

And no not every champion was OP, so far I think they've done great with the changes compared to what it was like at that time. Yeah because look, they've made outdated champs viable again, added counterplay to stuff like Nidalee and Yi (!!! Oh noes counterplay what do we do they're not OP anymore QQ) and fixed flawed mechanics to prevent abuse.

OF COURSE they have done many stupid changes over time, but honestly I prefer how the game is now, with a couple champions being actually OP because of the changes they're trying to make (I'd say why not) than over a dozen being OP because they were poorly designed from the beginning.
K only thing I actually dislike is how their changes turned the meta into a dps tank fest but I can live with that.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

Of all the recently released champions, Kalista is the only SERIOUSLY broken as fuck one.
Kalista can't kill tanks.
Aurani
Everyone has their own opinion, and I'm no different. The reasons I mentioned above is why I'll love s1-s2 above all the other seasons, not only because it was more fun to play champions that weren't sterile, generic fucks, but because the community was also more warm and welcoming than it is today, sadly.

What do you mean she can't kill tanks? She can kite virtually anyone in the game and stack those spears to infinity, and suddenly you wonder where 90% of your HP went.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

What do you mean she can't kill tanks? She can kite virtually anyone in the game and stack those spears to infinity, and suddenly you wonder where 90% of your HP went.
Well she can, but in teamfights it renders her useless since her rend does no damage to tanks; it literally does no damage. In order for her to kill tanks, she has to go for a crit build sacrificing the runaan's which is something only Korean players do. That being said, I do highly prefer going for a crit build with Kalista, she just feels so much stronger and it's a lot easier to carry; no idea why people still go for runaan's, BT, BOTRK.
Aurani
That's true, yes, but before all the teamfights come around the 25th minute mark, she can eat her lane opponents alive, and hopefully get ahead enough so as to not have THAT much of a problem with tanks later on.

It entirely depends, really.
Jenny
meanwhile, playing ranked on EUW is still as frustrating as ever..
Aurani
Where are you? Silver? Gold? Challenger? :V
Jenny
Currently Plat V since my provisionals went 2-8; previously P1 with average game MMR of D3-- pretty annoying, but I'm not really playing ranked anywhere enough to get out of it anymore after my hands got injured
Blaziken

Jenny wrote:

meanwhile, playing ranked on EUW is still as frustrating as ever..
Speaking of such, when the team just wont end.
Aurani
Suddenly, every Bronze, Silver and Gold player looks at you in disgust as they reflect on the Hell they went through and are currently going through. :p

I know for a fact that every tier can be annoying as fuck, but up there it's not even close to what you'd experience in lower ones, like Silver, where most people reside.
That's the whole reason I only go through my provisionals to see where I'd randomly end up in, and then wait until the next seasons' provisionals to do the same. I just find ranked too frustrating, not because of my own personality (I hardly EVER get down from someone else being a moron - I rather enjoy it and laugh at it), but because of the sheer stupidity most people there are displaying.

I hope you get into Diamond before the end of the season, though. :p

Off-topic:
I'm dying. I'm literally dying here.
Dainesl
I don't even, what is that xD

On-topic: People claim they go through Hell to climb one tier but to be honest that can be traced back to them and how they performed, at least, in my opinion. I wouldn't say it's terribly difficult to climb from, say, Silver to Gold, but failing promos a whole bunch is the absolute worst :c

I know of one dude who failed their Silver 2 -> 1 promos like, 10 times, and then there's me who only failed their Gold 4 -> 3 promos like once...and that dude is still in Silver 2 ;_;
Jenny
I used to be in Silver, I know the struggles - despite that, Plat feels like the worst, considering people always have the "potential" to do something but keep disappointing you so extremely direly every single time.

Bronze, Silver and Gold you can just assume everyone's gonna feed and suck at mechanics, in Platinum it's a somewhat mixed bag so it really hits you meanly x:
Aurani
Yes, I can agree with that.
In Plat, from experience, people tend to (just like you said) have the potential to make incredible plays, but not only do they constantly fail to live up to your expectations, they also think they're entitled to at least high Diamond, not Plat, so they behave like total goddamn assholes.

Silver is worse, but in a different way. People there feel demoralised from the mere fact that they're Silver, and not Gold (something a lot of Silver-ranked people dream about every night), so they give no fucks about whether or not their mechanics are equal to those of a guy without arms, or if they'll feed and quit. They just lack the fucks to give about the game itself, mostly out of self-pity or on the other extreme end - complete self-centered behaviour, even more so than those Plats.
EneT
Plats are the worst; filled with tryhards that think they're good when they don't even deserve any better. Once you start getting high Diamond games start getting more and more chill.
Jordan

EneT wrote:

Plats are the worst; filled with tryhards that think they're good when they don't even deserve any better. Once you start getting high Diamond games start getting more and more chill.
"X tier is the worst" has been said for literally every tier :p
-SayaKai

EneT wrote:

Plats are the worst; filled with tryhards that think they're good when they don't even deserve any better. Once you start getting high Diamond games start getting more and more chill.
Bronze are worst too
Aurani
Bronze are, in my opinion, one of the most laid-back and kindest people on ranked. Yes, they might be terrible game-wise, but not many actually rage and feed deliberately, unlike virtually every other tier up to Diamond.
Conor
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Feast
Incarnation hype
Stefan

Conor wrote:

I have no idea why you reminded me of this video.
why is this happening in this world..
Dainesl
Catchy background tune though, will admit that
OzzyOzrock
I SAW THE BRONZE

AND IT OPENED UP MY WALL
Renevant

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I SAW THE BRONZE

AND IT OPENED UP MY WALL

Lmao
Froslass
Aurani

Conor wrote:

Here's a Diamond player raging even worse than the Bronze guy. 3:57 is the funniest part of the whole video. Both of these videos are probably nothing new to you anyway.
Of course there are going to be people like that all the way from Bronze to Challenger, but some tiers have more than others. Plat, in my opinion, has the most of those "know-it-all ragers".
Also, why is that retard raging, he got caught like a moron - nothing to blame your team about. Lacking vision in your own jungle? Stop telling your jungler to kill himself and buy a fucking ward yourself, so you don't look like a braindead child when you get caught like that.

I really fail to see why so many people take this game that seriously.... the last time I played ranked, I lost 4 of my games due to either my bot going completely haywire and feeding up to 1-10 and 0-12 (so 22 kills versus 1 on their side - due to me actually TPing in when I had that bit extra time and ganking the lane), or due to my jungler afking for the other 3 games. Did I get annoyed? Yeah sure, but did it affect my mood overall? Not at all. I would be in agony if I was playing for money, but since I'm not, I'm actually just having fun.
EneT

Aurani wrote:

Plat, in my opinion, has the most of those "know-it-all ragers".
My point exactly. Plats are the worst of the community.
Feast

EneT wrote:

My point exactly. Plats are the worst of the community.
This is your opinion tho, I hear a lot of "Plat V is the worst", "Diamond V is the worst", "Silver is the worst" etc... I think the worst is always where you're stuck
PyaKura
The grass is always greener on the other side I guess
Aurani
I've been on both sides, so that can't really apply here. Plat definitely has more people who should get a life, or at least a reality check. :p
Feast

Aurani wrote:

I've been on both sides, so that can't really apply here. Plat definitely has more people who should get a life, or at least a reality check. :p
Hmm I don't know, I was stuck platinum all season 4 & never found it uber toxic. Yes, there was some toxic players but just like in all other leagues from bronze to challenger I guess
Aurani
Seems like only I meet people who have their arses clogged so much that they have to let their feces through their mouths.
Witch Mercy
Can't believe T8 threw the game like that today...
Renevant

Graciee wrote:

Can't believe T8 threw the game like that today...
Dodo got caught so much


Also, took me a while, but i finally got it

Not like it means much though
Conor
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BrokenArrow
Talking about douchebags, check this being out

Aurani
I feel nothing but pity for that guy. He's just mentally challenged, and I feel a burning pain in my chest when I think how he was raised and how twisted his heart is. He is not even worth a second of my time.
Conor
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EneT

BrokenArrow wrote:

Talking about douchebags, check this being out

This pissed me off, thanks.
Renevant
I still don't understand how ekko works, I guess ill have to try him in some bot games or something..
OzzyOzrock
he kills


everybody dies
-SayaKai

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow.
Aurani

Renevant wrote:

I still don't understand how ekko works, I guess ill have to try him in some bot games or something..
Basically, after you get your ult, plan it so you bait your opponent into being near your image (easy to do versus guys who have no awareness), and then you have 2 choices:

If you are certain they'll remain around it (I mean your ult DOES have an enormous aoe) drop your Q, and with a little skill, they get hit twice, E onto them to proc those 3 stacks and then ult.... if they aren't dead by then, use ignite. :p

The other choice is doing it backwards - ult first, then when you're right next to them, Q, and while it's floating and waiting for that second trigger, E onto them, and when it returns, it'll proc the 3rd strike, dealing tonnes of damage. :p

Alternatively, you can use your ult to TP back into the lane, but then you have to be certain that either you'll win every trade against your opponent and can kill them without using your ult (which is a BIG damage dealing and HP recovery tool), or you have a premade jungler who will camp your lane hard.
OzzyOzrock
No, more often than not Ekko ult is to save you, similar to Zed ult. But if you can safely use it to damage, then yeah
EneT

OzzyOzrock wrote:

No, more often than not Ekko ult is to save you, similar to Zed ult.
That's not what I've seen.
And what? Zed ult mostly used to save you?
Aurani
I can safely say that his ult is always going to be used in higher ranked (during the laning phase only) as a free TP back to the lane, above everything else, as I've watched numerous games and almost every damn Ekko I see is never using his ult in the laning phase for damage/heals, but for a cheap, low CD TP.

Back in lower elo, it's easy as shit to just let your opponent walk into your image, and they're mildly screwed from that point on, as his ult has, I believe, 130% AP ratio, with 200-250 base damage (too lazy to check) on the first rank. That's more than enough to rape a third of a level 6 midder's HP. He is definitely going to receive a nerf on his 3-hit proc in the future, too.
Renevant
Even in hexakill, people steal your penta hexa.

OzzyOzrock

EneT wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

No, more often than not Ekko ult is to save you, similar to Zed ult.
That's not what I've seen.
And what? Zed ult mostly used to save you?
Yes, going back to shadow.

I wanted the new Lee skin but it becomes less and less appealing as I see it :c
EneT

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Yes, going back to shadow.
That's not the main function of his ult, re-think your statement.
OzzyOzrock
Ekko's pretty much is however. The damage portion of the ult is rarely a good option, and it is more used as a way to let you go ham, then go back. Zed was just an ability to compare it to.
Renevant
These prehistoric skins look cool
PyaKura

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Ekko's pretty much is however. The damage portion of the ult is rarely a good option, and it is more used as a way to let you go ham, then go back. Zed was just an ability to compare it to.
Yeah it allows for safe dives and grants access to very reliable escape. Using it to deal damage is rather tricky assuming the enemies are not stupid enough to keep walking on Ekko's hologram.
Dainesl
Meanwhile, in Gold-tier Ranked...



Yes, my HP bar is glitched, don't question it xD
EneT
Why are your life bar's glitched?
Renevant

Dainesl wrote:

Meanwhile, in Gold-tier Ranked...

lol wow, was the other team having fun?
Navizel
ryze is so balanced
Dainesl

EneT wrote:

Why are your life bar's glitched?
I don't know, it was just a random bug that started to happen and it's still going on, it's been like this for a couple weeks now :/
EneT
This recent patch has been weird, I've been crashing a lot too.
Aurani
Crashing? I've been playing every day and am in a lobby right now - no crashes to this date. Also no glitches or weird bugs, either.

Though, I DID experience what it's like to play on EUW for the first time, the day before yesterday, when I was on the TTL, server completely died for some reason and everyone had 700 ping. Killing shit was fun - one second you're csing, another second triple kill. lol
-SayaKai
y Ekko so op :c
EneT
Because he's a new champ, simple.
Aurani
Just got reminded of The Yordles... damnit, the nostalgia.. it's too much....
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