rhalp10 wrote:

Hello Sorry For Delay I Have A Busy Stuff But Here's My MOD I Hope You All Appreciate It

Natsume Chiaki

 1|2|3|4

Some of Your Notes Followed On Voice.. eto.... hai? xD I know
[HD+]
00:14:867 (14867|3,15032|2,15197|1) - Ctrl+J The 3 Notes Are Ascending Try To Hear It On 25% Playback...
01:32:669 (92669|0) - Remove I Can't Here Strong Sound ..
01:32:999 (92999|1) - Move 1 And Add 4
01:33:164 (93164|3) - Move 2
[MX]
00:23:274 (23274|0) - Move To 4
00:23:356 (23356|3) - Move To 1
All accepted :3 - Thank you

logitechf1f4 wrote:

Yo ( '')/ sorry for really late mod, because last tuesday I lost my glasses and I can't see clearly more than 20 cm!! Yeah my sight was really bad Then youre better than i without glasses

Your map is pretty good, I just add a little suggestion for you

here my simple mod (from M4M)
column layout
|1|2|3|4|

NM+

00:56:076 (56076|2) - move to column 1 for balance OK
01:00:691 (60691|2,60691|0) - delete 1 note ( I suggest this 01:00:691 (60691|2) - ) OK
01:01:021 (61021|3) - move to 3 and add 1 note here 01:01:351 (61351|2) - in column 4 and become like this http://puu.sh/hhWUY/41ec550c24.png OK
01:09:428 (69428|2) - move to 1 for balance OK
01:10:911 (70911|0,71076|1) - move 1 column to the left for balance http://puu.sh/hhX6Y/8cda349a68.jpg OK
01:21:461 (81461|2) - add 1 note in column 3 No, if i do this i have to ad the following too which would be too much for this diff
in this 01:24:757 (84757|1,85087|3,85252|1,85334|2,85417|3,85581|2,85746|3,85911|2,86076|1,86241|0) - I have some suggestions pattern for you:
1. change into like this just move 01:25:581 (85581|2) - to column 1
2. change into like this these note 01:25:252 (85252|1,85334|2,85417|3) - ctrl G and move left 1 column
3. change into like this just move 01:25:087 (85087|3) - to column 1 Changed in own manner
02:12:889 (132889|1) - add 1 note in column 2 No, just vocal (silable)
These note 02:13:219 (133219|3,135032|1,135197|2,135362|3,135527|1,135691|2,135856|0,137834|2,137834|0,138164|3,138164|1,138494|2,140307|3,140472|1,140636|2,140801|0,140966|3,141131|1,143109|2,143439|3) - are exactly the same like in NM http://puu.sh/hhZCD/5c4213b3cb.jpg (I suggest you should change some pattern) I dont see a problem there
02:59:043 (179043|1) - add 1 note in column 2 http://puu.sh/hhYop/60e8bef354.jpg Added in 4

Ok I think that's all for NM+

HD

00:59:867 (59867|2) - move to column 1 OK
01:21:461 (81461|1) - add 1 note in column 2 Nope, see above
01:29:373 (89373|0) - move to column 2 for balance OK
01:38:109 (98109|2) - move to column 1^ OK
01:57:889 (117889|0,118054|2,118219|0,118384|2,118548|0) - move left 1 column Changed some of them
02:12:889 (132889|1) - add 1 note in column 2 Nope, see above
02:43:054 (163054|1,163219|2) - ctrl+G and move left 1 column Changed
02:59:043 (179043|1) - add 1 note in column 2 Nope
03:10:746 (190746|2) - move to column 2 OK
03:11:735 (191735|0) - move to column 3 OK

The other notes are good enough for me

HD+

00:15:691 (15691|0) - move to column 2 OK
00:54:922 (54922|1,55087|0,55087|2,55252|1,55417|2,55417|0,55581|0,55581|2,55746|2,55746|0,55911|2,55911|0) - really looks unbalance, I suggest move 00:54:922 (54922|1,55087|2) - 1 column to the right OK
01:05:142 (65142|3) - move to column 3
01:21:461 (81461|1) - add 1 note in column 2 (you always never put a note here in NM+, HD, and HD+, why?) Why should i? Theres not enough sounds for more notes
01:41:570 (101570|2) - move to column 4 OK
02:12:889 (132889|0) - add 1 note in column 1 (also you always never put a note here in NM+, HD, and HD+) See above
02:59:043 (179043|3) - add 1 note in column 4^ see above
03:13:219 (193219|0,193301|1,193384|2,193466|3) - these 4 notes always like this in other diff, I suggest you should change this pattern. Its fitting, why should i change? Just since its a other diff i dont want to make it another pattern here for a clear stair sound.

Yup that's all for me. The other diff are good enough i think. Good luck ( '')b

-SoraGami- wrote:

Hi Kagu-chan!~~~

here is my mod
1|2|3|4

just some suggestion, feel free to reject if useless

MX

00:22:779 (22779|2) - move to 1 No, it would not made any difference here expect making third column more emtpy
01:50:472 (110472|1) - move to 1 for balance
03:03:906 (183906|2,183988|3,183988|1) - adjust to the left

SC

00:15:691 (15691|0) - move to 2 for comfortability
00:55:581 - add note
00:57:395 (57395|0) - move to 2
01:03:823 (63823|3) - delete
01:25:252 (85252|1) - delete then, 01:25:252 (85252|1) - add note to 4 Dont understand what this should be - maybe wrong timestamp?
02:26:900 (146900|3) - move to 2

Also removed some 1/4 Jacks before slider stream i havent seen before

Woah. Great Map. I like those pattern and the song! Thanks :3
Good Luck!~~ ill wait this in the ranked section

Gomuryuu wrote:

Hi~

From MODHOUSE

Here's my mod as requested~

Column 1|2|3|4

NM+

00:20:966 (20966|2,21131|1,21296|0) - Ctrl+G for variation No, but next and 00:22:779 (22779|2,22944|1,23109|0) - STRG+H
00:21:461 (21461|2,21625|1,21790|0) - Ctrl+H^
00:22:120 (22120|3) - move to 1^ OK
00:54:263 (54263|2) - move to 1 for balance OK
00:55:581 (55581|2) - move to 1^ OK
00:58:631 (58631|0,58713|1) - Ctrl+G for~ balance? or variation~ No, would be the same as few ticks ealier
01:03:906 (63906|2,63988|0) - Ctrl+G^ OK
01:09:098 (69098|3,69180|2,69263|1) - Ctrl+G^ OK
01:42:889 - make it a double note here OK
01:45:691 (105691|2) - move to 1 for balance OK
02:00:527 (120527|3,120609|2,120691|1) - Ctrl+H for variation OK
02:58:713 (178713|2) - move to 2 for balance OK
03:10:746 (190746|2,190911|3,190911|1,191076|2,191241|1,191241|3,191406|2,191488|1) - Ctrl+H for variation OK
03:14:702 (194702|0,195691|1,196516|2) - umm~ i think this part is not necessary, if you want too keep them at least change the hitsound to something more fitting Ill look for better HS for this :3

HD

00:37:285 (37285|2,37450|1,37614|0) - move these one column to the right for balance OK
01:15:362 (75362|0,75527|3,75691|1) - Ctrl+H for variation to the next part OK
01:53:768 (113768|1) - move to 1 for balance OK
01:57:065 (117065|2) - move to 2^ OK
01:07:285 - these part show up so often in this song, but you always map them to a right-to-left stair loop. you can try some variation:
a ctrl+h version (left-to-right stair loop) v


or you can try something like this too v

I played a bit with patterns, more variation now :3

Great map! I really appreciate your work on mapping all the 7 diffs by yourself. Was not planned, but then ive seen that NM+ and HD+ was too much for NM / HD and changed then. SC was suggestion from others since MX was not enough :3

Look, Shooting star! It´s raining men stars, hallejulia

GO RANK!~

YunoFanatic wrote:

[EZ]
00:21:131 (21131|1,21461|2) - change the columns of these note because its weird after 00:18:494 (18494|3,18823|2,19153|1,19483|2) - and all. fixed first two notes, two notes later and last not since last are pattered
00:24:428 (24428|0,24592|1,24757|2,24922|3) - these feels weird imo, i dont like it should change into lns to capture those 1/4 sound. I dont see a big difference with LNs since SN is better fitting too. This would make it harder, but not better i think
00:33:329 why pause? add another note, the pause here isnt needed, normally there wasnt a note since i thought there wasnt a silable, but theres a u (from uki), so ill add
01:00:691 (60691|0,61351|3) - i felt these lns isnt needed anyway. because it doesnt follow anything. same with other This is following same pitched silables here. So i dont remove
01:26:735 - 01:32:340 what the actual hell are you intending to do here? Please refer to IRC mod with Julie - normal notes dont fitting i guess, since i cant map too much since its easy diff. so a bit more would not fit, much more would too hard, so we mapped it so
01:53:439 (113439|3,113603|2,113768|1,113933|2,114098|0,114263|1,114428|2,114592|1) - i dont actaully prefer to you to use 1/2 that much or use them as a stream in EZ. I think its ok as it is.
01:58:713 (118713|3,119043|2,119373|1,119702|0) - imo 1/1 note fits here than ln. No, IMO this is a highlightpoint of refrain, just 1/1 notes would be same as before. Also i think its fitting too.

[NM]
00:17:505 (17505|2,18164|1,18164|3) - sudden break of pattern is actually bad in here. eh? There is no pattern change or similar O.o
01:31:680 (91680|3) - change maybe to ln instead? it play good tho. Thanks. Also changed in some other diffs since its good fitting and nice to play :3
good nm.

[HD]
00:14:537 (14537|0,15856|2,17175|2) - i dislike these lns, i just felt they arent needed anyway. AND SO ON. apply to all Changed
00:14:537 (14537|2,14537|0,14537|3) - not really loud enough to be tripled. fixed with removed LN
00:46:845 (46845|3) - add another note on lns end because it has sound apply to all fixed
01:19:153 (79153|2) - - 01:21:131 (81131|3) - so weird, i actaully think it doesnt fit imo. no, it fit i think
01:22:779 (82779|1) - since you added claps here its gooad to add another note to, to emphasize the clap hs, apply to all OK. In higher diff not really possible since it would be jacks (since i mapped there the tripples and as SC as 1/6)
01:32:999 (92999|2) - this is loud enough to add another note. OK
02:34:318 (154318|0) - add another note to emphasize hs. OK

[MX]
00:30:197 (30197|1) - move to 4th instead so you can have better pattern. OK
00:46:186 (46186|2) - move to 4th so you can get a good pattern with 00:46:516 (46516|2,46516|0) - OK
00:56:735 (56735|2) - add another note here cause it fits for a new pattern. No, not enough sound here
00:56:735 (56735|2,58219|1,58548|2) - maybe add notes on the start of these lns cause just the ln itself feels weird. No, this would be doubles which is not fitting, and use SN instead of LN is bad too since LN is fitting here
00:56:735 (56735|2,58219|1,58548|2,65966|3) - this section is pretty weird to have only 1 note probably add another one. a bit confused since you market too much xD - but in refrain i think this single notes are ok there...
01:08:521 (68521|0) - lol why is this a short one? To make LN stream complete and dont map over end of stream
01:12:889 (72889|3) - the clap and whistle here really caught me i think its weird tho. I dont see a problem there
01:12:889 (72889|3,76021|0) - can do streams here. Nearly complete Refrain could be a single stream - please refer to SC diff, for MX here stream too would be too hard i guess
nice MX really its fun to play!

Sorry cant mod all ;A; but i pointed almost everything that needs to be fixed hehe goodluck!

Kagu-chan wrote:

IRC-Mod of Doom with Pharos21

2015-05-02 15:42 Kagu-chan: hi, are you there?
2015-05-02 15:43 Pharos21: yep
2015-05-02 15:43 Kagu-chan: :3
2015-05-02 15:43 Kagu-chan: have you modded my natsume chiaki map? i dont know now xD
2015-05-02 15:44 Pharos21: hatsune chiaki...
2015-05-02 15:44 Pharos21: ah hanairo byori?
2015-05-02 15:44 Pharos21: yeh.. i've mod it before
2015-05-02 15:44 Kagu-chan: yep xD
2015-05-02 15:44 Kagu-chan: i want to ask if you could irc mod with me a bit, since ive requested bns and maybe there could be some main issues or some suggestions xD
2015-05-02 15:45 Kagu-chan: (ok, i need help for easy diff in each case xD )
2015-05-02 15:45 Pharos21: ohh sure
2015-05-02 15:45 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 15:45 Kagu-chan: ok ^^
2015-05-02 15:48 Pharos21: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657932 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [EZ]]
2015-05-02 15:48 Pharos21: this one?
2015-05-02 15:48 Kagu-chan: :3
2015-05-02 15:48 Kagu-chan: yep ^^
2015-05-02 15:48 Kagu-chan: mhm... i have two points where i need your opinion ^^
2015-05-02 15:49 Kagu-chan: 00:38:274 - first here - there i have too little breaks, does you think there required and / or fitting?
2015-05-02 15:50 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 15:50 Pharos21: hmm...
2015-05-02 15:50 Kagu-chan: normally in this part i have breaks only if no new silable begin in 1/1 tick - here i have additional no SN xD
2015-05-02 15:51 Kagu-chan: (i dont know why, now im wondering if they fit xD )
2015-05-02 15:51 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 15:51 Pharos21: let me test it a bit
2015-05-02 15:51 Kagu-chan: ok :3
2015-05-02 15:52 Pharos21: i think.. there's a sound here
2015-05-02 15:52 Pharos21: and you need to fill it
2015-05-02 15:52 Pharos21: 00:38:603 -
2015-05-02 15:52 Pharos21: and
2015-05-02 15:53 Pharos21: 00:39:263 -
2015-05-02 15:53 Pharos21: cuz i hear you're following the beat here
2015-05-02 15:53 Kagu-chan: i set both at 3
2015-05-02 15:53 Kagu-chan: (1|2|3|4)
2015-05-02 15:54 Kagu-chan: ok.
2015-05-02 15:54 Pharos21: OK
2015-05-02 15:54 Pharos21: it's fine
2015-05-02 15:54 Pharos21: ehh wait
2015-05-02 15:54 Kagu-chan: second one with Clap HS
2015-05-02 15:54 Kagu-chan: hai? xD
2015-05-02 15:54 Pharos21: both at 3..
2015-05-02 15:55 Pharos21: if you already add it
2015-05-02 15:55 Pharos21: 00:39:263 (39263|2,39592|1) -
2015-05-02 15:55 Kagu-chan: swap?
2015-05-02 15:55 Pharos21: i think you need to Swap Column this
2015-05-02 15:55 Pharos21: yep
2015-05-02 15:55 Pharos21: for hand flow
2015-05-02 15:55 Kagu-chan: ok, done
2015-05-02 15:57 Kagu-chan: ok, let us look at this part: 01:27:065 - until 01:32:340 - as you see there are just two SN. This is since this part is with no drum rhythm and maybe hard to get for beginners. but its too less xD any sugestion how to map this part?
2015-05-02 15:57 Pharos21: hmmm
2015-05-02 15:57 Pharos21: a bit hard for this part
2015-05-02 15:58 Pharos21: wait... let see here.....
2015-05-02 15:58 Pharos21: make it like this
2015-05-02 15:58 Pharos21: wait.. i'll send you the Pict.. and you''l know what i mean
2015-05-02 15:59 Kagu-chan: ok ^^
2015-05-02 16:01 Pharos21: http://puu.sh/hyGr9/0747121a46.jpg
2015-05-02 16:03 Kagu-chan: seems fine :3
2015-05-02 16:03 Kagu-chan: ill recheck HS, wait xD
2015-05-02 16:04 Kagu-chan: ok, i think this is ok so :3
2015-05-02 16:04 Pharos21: yeah?
2015-05-02 16:04 Pharos21: OK?
2015-05-02 16:04 Kagu-chan: yep :3
2015-05-02 16:04 Pharos21: yay!!
2015-05-02 16:05 Kagu-chan: ok, then lets continue with mod xD
2015-05-02 16:05 Pharos21: ok
2015-05-02 16:06 Kagu-chan: 02:23:768 - this part (following) - dies you think i need SN at LN start?
2015-05-02 16:06 Kagu-chan: *does
2015-05-02 16:08 Pharos21: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657932 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [EZ]]
2015-05-02 16:08 Pharos21: nothing found
2015-05-02 16:09 Kagu-chan: OK ^^
2015-05-02 16:09 Pharos21: Drum + Vocal right?
2015-05-02 16:09 Kagu-chan: yep
2015-05-02 16:09 Pharos21: it's OK... but will be better if not
2015-05-02 16:09 Pharos21: i mean Drum only
2015-05-02 16:09 Kagu-chan: OK, then i keep it as it is
2015-05-02 16:10 Pharos21: cuz it's EZ we're talkin about here
2015-05-02 16:10 Kagu-chan: yep, there for i havent set SN there ^^
2015-05-02 16:11 Pharos21: hm
2015-05-02 16:11 Pharos21: soo.. Vocal only?
2015-05-02 16:12 Kagu-chan: the LN is for long sylable, but SN is for drum. first SN i dont set since Vocal start - so it would be two notes
2015-05-02 16:13 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 16:13 Pharos21: dont get it orz
2015-05-02 16:14 Kagu-chan: mhm... then i look by myself short xD
2015-05-02 16:14 Pharos21: you mean that LN are for.. wait
2015-05-02 16:14 Pharos21: le me check again
2015-05-02 16:14 Kagu-chan: yes, LN is for Long sylable
2015-05-02 16:15 Pharos21: ahh
2015-05-02 16:15 Pharos21: i get it now
2015-05-02 16:15 Kagu-chan: xD
2015-05-02 16:16 Pharos21: just SN please.. cuz SN + LN are too hard for EZ (i think)
2015-05-02 16:16 Kagu-chan: mhm... so remove LN?
2015-05-02 16:16 Pharos21: but it's fine to add LN here... hmm.. i thnik .. not really hard
2015-05-02 16:16 Pharos21: Keep it like that
2015-05-02 16:16 Kagu-chan: OK
2015-05-02 16:17 Kagu-chan: does you have a nice high hat HS for that part? (since finnish sounds are in this soundset all.... baka xD )
2015-05-02 16:17 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 16:18 Pharos21: for which note?
2015-05-02 16:18 Kagu-chan: 02:29:043 (149043|0,150362|2,151680|3,152999|0) - this four notes
2015-05-02 16:18 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 16:18 Pharos21: it's fine as it is
2015-05-02 16:18 Kagu-chan: (i realize that i havent one finnish hs used in this map xD) - OK, then i keep xD
2015-05-02 16:20 Pharos21: any other?
2015-05-02 16:20 Kagu-chan: then i think ez diff is fine now :3
2015-05-02 16:20 Pharos21: yep
2015-05-02 16:20 Kagu-chan: mhm... let look over next diff?
2015-05-02 16:21 Kagu-chan: *lets xD
2015-05-02 16:21 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 16:21 Pharos21: ok
2015-05-02 16:21 Kagu-chan: which one?
2015-05-02 16:21 Pharos21: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657936 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM]]
2015-05-02 16:22 Kagu-chan: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657936 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM]]
2015-05-02 16:22 Pharos21: this
2015-05-02 16:23 Kagu-chan: ^^
2015-05-02 16:23 Pharos21: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657936 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM]] <osu!mania> |4K|
2015-05-02 16:23 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 16:24 Pharos21: i think something's wrong on the opening part
2015-05-02 16:24 Pharos21: ahh
2015-05-02 16:24 Pharos21: this
2015-05-02 16:24 Pharos21: 00:39:592 (39592|1) -
2015-05-02 16:25 Pharos21: the beat count are.. uhh.. odd
2015-05-02 16:25 Pharos21: try this
2015-05-02 16:25 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 16:25 Kagu-chan: ACTION try to get what you mean xD
2015-05-02 16:26 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 16:27 Pharos21: what i mean is.., the readability
2015-05-02 16:27 Pharos21: sorry
2015-05-02 16:27 Pharos21: http://puu.sh/hyHJF/2f48824176.jpg
2015-05-02 16:27 Pharos21: try this..
2015-05-02 16:27 Pharos21: cuz your LN in this part are following the long vocal.. right?
2015-05-02 16:27 Pharos21: ahh what i mean is... following Vocal
2015-05-02 16:27 Pharos21: orz
2015-05-02 16:28 Kagu-chan: now i get it xD
2015-05-02 16:28 Kagu-chan: and its fine, yes xD
2015-05-02 16:28 Pharos21: more readable to
2015-05-02 16:28 Kagu-chan: yup :3
2015-05-02 16:28 Pharos21: and jus that.. i think
2015-05-02 16:28 Kagu-chan: ill recheck by myself, short testing
2015-05-02 16:32 Pharos21: just this
2015-05-02 16:32 Pharos21: 00:55:252 (55252|1) -
2015-05-02 16:32 Pharos21: i dont understand this part
2015-05-02 16:32 Pharos21: how about make it SN and add 1 note here.
2015-05-02 16:32 Pharos21: 00:55:417 -
2015-05-02 16:32 Pharos21: there,, just that
2015-05-02 16:33 Kagu-chan: mhm... this ln is for long ma-sylable, but not fitting with pattern here, thats true xD
2015-05-02 16:33 Pharos21: right>
2015-05-02 16:34 Kagu-chan: so LN to SN and 00:55:417 - add note, right?
2015-05-02 16:34 Pharos21: yep
2015-05-02 16:34 Kagu-chan: ok, changed
2015-05-02 16:34 Kagu-chan: ill check in second part (this part is repeating later with other text)
2015-05-02 16:35 Kagu-chan: ok, have to change too then
2015-05-02 16:36 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 16:36 Kagu-chan: ok, fixed
2015-05-02 16:37 Pharos21: ok
2015-05-02 16:37 Pharos21: just that
2015-05-02 16:37 Kagu-chan: nice :3 - Mistakehunter Pharos
2015-05-02 16:38 Pharos21: uhhh what??
2015-05-02 16:38 Kagu-chan: xD
2015-05-02 16:38 Kagu-chan: Bughunter... what ever xD you find issues where i always think its ok how it is xD
2015-05-02 16:38 Kagu-chan: (ok, thats modders job... but xyoure good modder xD)
2015-05-02 16:38 Pharos21: ehehe
2015-05-02 16:38 Pharos21: thanks ^.^
2015-05-02 16:39 Kagu-chan: does you ever need help on map, just ask me xD (for GD too :p if its 4K xD )
2015-05-02 16:39 Pharos21: uhh
2015-05-02 16:39 Pharos21: curently no
2015-05-02 16:39 Kagu-chan: xD
2015-05-02 16:39 Pharos21: but.. idk for my next project
2015-05-02 16:40 Kagu-chan: ^^
2015-05-02 16:40 Kagu-chan: im away for 5 mins now xD
2015-05-02 16:41 Pharos21: ok
2015-05-02 16:46 Kagu-chan: re :3 and updated map :3
2015-05-02 16:46 Pharos21: yay
2015-05-02 16:46 Kagu-chan: would you check other diffs?
2015-05-02 16:46 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 16:46 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 16:47 Kagu-chan: :v
2015-05-02 16:59 Pharos21: kagu
2015-05-02 16:59 Pharos21: you're there?
2015-05-02 16:59 Kagu-chan: hai?
2015-05-02 16:59 Pharos21: sorry... i was away ehehe
2015-05-02 16:59 Kagu-chan: no problem xD
2015-05-02 16:59 Pharos21: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657936 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori]
2015-05-02 16:59 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 16:59 Pharos21: updating
2015-05-02 17:00 Pharos21: i'm gonna re-check your NM diff
2015-05-02 17:00 Kagu-chan: whoa... osu loading over 9000 xD
2015-05-02 17:00 Kagu-chan: (ok, downloaded bunch of maps xD
2015-05-02 17:01 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 17:01 Pharos21: why i cant update it
2015-05-02 17:01 Kagu-chan: osu telling me i have to update too...
2015-05-02 17:01 Pharos21: ah damn.. another BUG
2015-05-02 17:01 Pharos21: ok nvm
2015-05-02 17:01 Pharos21: let's Continue
2015-05-02 17:02 Pharos21: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657936 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM]]
2015-05-02 17:02 Kagu-chan: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657936 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM]]
2015-05-02 17:03 Pharos21: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657936 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM]] <osu!mania> |4K|
2015-05-02 17:04 Pharos21: 00:56:570 (56570|2) -
2015-05-02 17:04 Pharos21: ok.. fells weird here
2015-05-02 17:04 Pharos21: i suggest you move this to 2
2015-05-02 17:04 Kagu-chan: moved
2015-05-02 17:05 Pharos21: try it first
2015-05-02 17:05 Pharos21: is it suit you?
2015-05-02 17:05 Kagu-chan: i think its ok
2015-05-02 17:06 Kagu-chan: (on 2)
2015-05-02 17:07 Pharos21: 01:00:691 (60691|1,61351|0) -
2015-05-02 17:07 Pharos21: feels weird too
2015-05-02 17:07 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 17:08 Kagu-chan: mhm...
2015-05-02 17:08 Pharos21: for this LN 01:00:691 (60691|1,61351|0) -
2015-05-02 17:08 Pharos21: add Note on the Red line
2015-05-02 17:08 Pharos21: placement up to you
2015-05-02 17:08 Pharos21: cuz i feel soo weird here.. you use 1/2 beat and then suddenly 1/1 LN
2015-05-02 17:09 Kagu-chan: mhm... what about changing LN to SN?
2015-05-02 17:09 Pharos21: that's good too
2015-05-02 17:09 Pharos21: change it
2015-05-02 17:09 Kagu-chan: for second LN ive done the same
2015-05-02 17:10 Pharos21: ok
2015-05-02 17:10 Pharos21: got it
2015-05-02 17:12 Pharos21: 03:00:691 (180691|1,182010|3) -
2015-05-02 17:12 Kagu-chan: i have changed 2nd and 3rd refrain too to be consistent
2015-05-02 17:12 Pharos21: add another note
2015-05-02 17:13 Pharos21: feels empty here
2015-05-02 17:13 Kagu-chan: OK
2015-05-02 17:14 Pharos21: and...
2015-05-02 17:14 Pharos21: 03:03:329 (183329|3,184647|2) -
2015-05-02 17:14 Pharos21: this to
2015-05-02 17:15 Kagu-chan: add second note?
2015-05-02 17:15 Pharos21: suddently LN only
2015-05-02 17:15 Pharos21: yep
2015-05-02 17:15 Pharos21: add note
2015-05-02 17:15 Kagu-chan: OK
2015-05-02 17:15 Kagu-chan: ill test
2015-05-02 17:15 Pharos21: ehh wait
2015-05-02 17:15 Kagu-chan: hai? ^^
2015-05-02 17:16 Pharos21: did you following the Long instrument here?
2015-05-02 17:16 Kagu-chan: the flute
2015-05-02 17:16 Pharos21: yep
2015-05-02 17:16 Kagu-chan: yo
2015-05-02 17:16 Kagu-chan: a bit ^^
2015-05-02 17:17 Pharos21: i suggest you avoid that
2015-05-02 17:17 Pharos21: for consistancy
2015-05-02 17:17 Kagu-chan: mhm... i like it xD
2015-05-02 17:18 Kagu-chan: also the flute is very loud at this point and so nice to map imo
2015-05-02 17:18 Pharos21: repeat that until here 03:08:603 (188603|3) -
2015-05-02 17:18 Pharos21: 02:59:373 (179373|3,179373|2,179702|1,180032|3,180197|0,180362|2,180691|1) -
2015-05-02 17:18 Pharos21: waht are you following here?
2015-05-02 17:19 Pharos21: the Wood instrumnet right? idk what the name is
2015-05-02 17:19 Pharos21: repeat it till 03:08:603 (188603|3) -
2015-05-02 17:19 Pharos21: it's better
2015-05-02 17:19 Kagu-chan: in bg this sound (yes, this wood thingy)
2015-05-02 17:19 Kagu-chan: mhm... ill test
2015-05-02 17:19 Pharos21: yeah that's true.. but it'll feel soo weird
2015-05-02 17:19 Pharos21: soo sudden
2015-05-02 17:21 Kagu-chan: ok, changed, ill test ^^
2015-05-02 17:22 Kagu-chan: its fine now i guess
2015-05-02 17:22 Kagu-chan: ok
2015-05-02 17:23 Pharos21: ok wait
2015-05-02 17:24 Pharos21: OK Fine~
2015-05-02 17:24 Kagu-chan: :3
2015-05-02 17:24 Pharos21: no more Error Found
2015-05-02 17:24 Pharos21: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657937 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM+]]
2015-05-02 17:25 Pharos21: kagu....
2015-05-02 17:25 Pharos21: 00:34:812 (34812|2,34895|3,34977|1,35059|2,35142|0,35224|1) - Seriously? JS?
2015-05-02 17:26 Kagu-chan: ?
2015-05-02 17:26 Pharos21: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657937 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM+]]
2015-05-02 17:27 Pharos21: 00:34:812 (34812|2,34895|3,34977|1,35059|2,35142|0,35224|1) -
2015-05-02 17:27 Kagu-chan: yeah, sure. but whats with this?
2015-05-02 17:27 Kagu-chan: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657937 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM+]]
2015-05-02 17:27 Pharos21: too hard for NM +
2015-05-02 17:27 Pharos21: really
2015-05-02 17:27 Kagu-chan: mhm... steir pattern?
2015-05-02 17:27 Kagu-chan: *stair
2015-05-02 17:28 Pharos21: simple Stair fine
2015-05-02 17:28 Kagu-chan: http://puu.sh/hyKTr/b2a6e6ae6f.jpg
2015-05-02 17:33 Pharos21: ^.^)b
2015-05-02 17:33 Pharos21: 03:01:516 (181516|1,181598|2,181680|0,181763|1,181845|2) -
2015-05-02 17:33 Pharos21: i don't understand this part
2015-05-02 17:33 Kagu-chan: im at this part too and thinking about what ive done xD
2015-05-02 17:33 Pharos21: if you following the Wood sound
2015-05-02 17:34 Kagu-chan: 03:01:763 (181763|1) - delete this then it should be correct
2015-05-02 17:34 Pharos21: 03:01:763 (181763|1,181845|2) - should snap here => 03:01:845 -
2015-05-02 17:34 Pharos21: nope
2015-05-02 17:35 Pharos21: just move this 03:01:763 (181763|1,181845|2) - 1 nile above
2015-05-02 17:35 Pharos21: *line
2015-05-02 17:35 Kagu-chan: 03:01:928 - but there isnt a clear sound. and it would not fit the patternt o have one here too
2015-05-02 17:36 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 17:36 Pharos21: just try it
2015-05-02 17:37 Pharos21: make it like this
2015-05-02 17:37 Pharos21: http://puu.sh/hyLni/46bf09e41c.jpg
2015-05-02 17:37 Kagu-chan: i think with this 03:01:928 (181928|2) - its wrong (and as i said against pattern here)
2015-05-02 17:38 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 17:38 Pharos21: delete it then
2015-05-02 17:38 Kagu-chan: ok
2015-05-02 17:38 Pharos21: and yeah
2015-05-02 17:38 Pharos21: you're right
2015-05-02 17:39 Kagu-chan: mhm... fyi - ive fixed the issues in refrain (with LN, same as NM diff) too xD
2015-05-02 17:39 Pharos21: ahh good
2015-05-02 17:39 Kagu-chan: (and in third refrain changed a bit since it was not consistent, missing double notes)
2015-05-02 17:40 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 17:40 Pharos21: third refrain?
2015-05-02 17:40 Kagu-chan: 02:35:636 -
2015-05-02 17:41 Pharos21: ohh
2015-05-02 17:41 Pharos21: ok
2015-05-02 17:41 Kagu-chan: lol... Grave is currently checking this thiff xD
2015-05-02 17:41 Pharos21: ehh?? really?
2015-05-02 17:42 Kagu-chan: he will wait for us xD
2015-05-02 17:42 Pharos21: ahh
2015-05-02 17:42 Kagu-chan: lol... its funny xD
2015-05-02 17:43 Kagu-chan: ok, lets continue then xD
2015-05-02 17:44 Pharos21: yes
2015-05-02 17:44 Pharos21: hmmmm
2015-05-02 17:45 Pharos21: idk is it just me or 01:42:559 (102559|0,102559|3,102724|1,102889|2,102889|3,103054|0,103219|1,103219|3) - are conflict with this 01:43:384 (103384|2,103548|1,103713|2,103878|0,103878|3,104043|2,104208|1,104373|0,104538|1,104538|2,104702|0,104867|3,105032|2,105197|3,105197|0,105362|2) -
2015-05-02 17:46 Kagu-chan: this parts should be the same (except layaring, but pattering)-... if it not consistent please tell me what xD (i checked some times, but not sure if it correct now)
2015-05-02 17:47 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 17:47 Kagu-chan: im checking too xD
2015-05-02 17:47 Pharos21: since the beat are different.. how about..
2015-05-02 17:48 Pharos21: 01:43:548 (103548|1,104208|1,104867|3) - add another note?
2015-05-02 17:48 Kagu-chan: checked again, its same i think. but wait, ill check your suggestion
2015-05-02 17:49 Kagu-chan: mhm... i have this from 01:45:527 - since it has more... "power" from here
2015-05-02 17:49 Pharos21: hmm
2015-05-02 17:50 Pharos21: yeah that's true.. it has more power
2015-05-02 17:51 Kagu-chan: wait... telephone xD
2015-05-02 17:55 Kagu-chan: re
2015-05-02 17:55 Kagu-chan: sorry
2015-05-02 17:55 Pharos21: np
2015-05-02 17:57 Pharos21: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/657937 Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori [NM+]] <osu!mania> |4K|
2015-05-02 17:57 Pharos21: ive test it with my suggestion...
2015-05-02 17:57 Pharos21: it's more readable.. i think
2015-05-02 17:57 Kagu-chan: mhm... i dont like it :/
2015-05-02 17:58 Pharos21: ok then
2015-05-02 17:59 Pharos21: wait
2015-05-02 18:01 Pharos21: 03:00:939 (180939|0) -
2015-05-02 18:01 Pharos21: what is this?
2015-05-02 18:01 Kagu-chan: i would say its an fail xD
2015-05-02 18:01 Kagu-chan: removed xD
2015-05-02 18:02 Pharos21: ok
2015-05-02 18:02 Pharos21: Done~
2015-05-02 18:02 Pharos21: no more error found. i guess
2015-05-02 18:02 Kagu-chan: yay xD
2015-05-02 18:02 Kagu-chan: then i can update and tell Grave that he can start
2015-05-02 18:03 Kagu-chan: i post log for him that he can check what we have fixed
2015-05-02 18:03 Pharos21: yes
2015-05-02 18:04 Pharos21: GL ^,^
2015-05-02 18:04 Kagu-chan: thx :3

[GraveChaos] wrote:

[Re-check]

|1|2|3|4|
[EZ]
00:50:142 (50142|3,50801|1,51131|0,51461|1) - Starting from the 1st highlighted one. Move to |3| - |4| - |3| |1| for pattern consistency as if you notice your previous pattern. Nice catch :3
00:52:120 (52120|2) - Move to |2| for better pattern and hand relaxation.
01:29:702 (89702|1,90197|3) - Move to the left by 1 column for pattern consistency
02:11:570 (131570|0) - Move to |2| for better pattern

[NM]
00:40:252 (40252|1,40581|0) - Exchange column. For better hand coordination and balance
01:03:823 (63823|2,63988|0) - ^ For pattern consistency too.
01:08:768 (68768|2,68933|0) - ^
01:35:966 LN only to |2| then 01:36:296 (96296|2) - Move to |4|. Not necessary to be 2 noted LN ending because if you notice your pattern.
I have it made so: http://puu.sh/hzY2g/ab1cf778b1.jpg
02:00:527 (120527|2,120691|0) - Exchange column. For better hand coordination, balance and consistency.

[NM+]
00:43:878 (43878|1) - Move to |4| for pattern consistency if you notice the LNs with ending SNs in this part.
00:44:538 (44538|1,44702|2) - Ctrl + H for pattern consistency
00:58:631 (58631|0,58713|1) - Ctrl + G To follow the continuous rhythm and pattern consistency. Notice your other pattern of this too just like 01:08:768 (68768|2,68851|1,68933|0,69098|1,69180|2,69263|3) -
01:54:922 (114922|1,115005|2) - Ctrl + G ^
02:55:581 (175581|1,175746|2,176241|1,176406|2) - Ctrl + G for pattern consistency as what you did on your previous pattern on this kind/part of rhythm. One sided wave...

[HD]
01:34:318 Make this 2 noted for the drumbeat impact

[HD+]
01:26:900 (86900|2,86983|3) - Ctrl + G for counter part rhythm with 01:26:653 (86653|0,86735|1) - as you listen to it closely/clearly the rhythm of the second one is like entering/centering....

Nice map! Go for rank! here take this >w<)/~
Good luck!~

Kagu-chan wrote:

[GraveChaos] wrote:

[Re-check]

Accepted all. In NM+ Ive changed the patterns to be consistent in kiai times
Thanks for Mod and for Star

BTW: Why Recheck? xD You havent checked before xD

Verniy_Chan wrote:

[EZ]
00:41:241 (41241|0) move to 4 No, would affect next pattern
00:47:505 (47505|1) move to 1 No, part of pattern
00:48:164 (48164|0,48494|1) move to right 1x ^
01:01:021 (61021|1,61680|2) Ctrl + G, hand balance OK
01:09:263 (69263|2) move to 4 No, part of pattern
01:11:570 (71570|3,72230|0) suggest to Ctrl + H, then rearange some pattern I think its ok as it is
01:17:175 (77175|3) move to 3 OK
01:40:252 (100252|3) ^ OK
02:43:878 (163878|2,164538|1) Ctrl + J No, OK as it is
03:02:999 (182999|1) move to 3 OK
03:07:614 (187614|2,187944|3) move to left 2x OK

[NM]
00:23:768 (23768|1) move to 3 OK
00:27:724 (27724|1) ^ OK
00:46:680 (46680|1,46845|2,46845|0) move to right 1x, variation pattern OK
00:51:955 (51955|2,52120|1,52120|3) move to left 1x, ^ OK
01:40:746 (100746|2,100911|3) move to left 1x OK
01:44:867 (104867|1) move to 3 or 01:44:867 (104867|3) move to 3, your choice OK
01:47:340 (107340|2,107505|1,107669|2) move to right 1x OK
01:57:065 (117065|2) move to 2 OK
02:49:318 (169318|0) move to 3 No, part of pattern
02:49:647 (169647|0) move to 2 No, part of pattern

[HD]
00:27:724 (27724|1) move to 3 OK
00:29:043 (29043|1) move to 1 OK
00:35:636 add note? cimbal Would fit, but for this diff, referencing to other patterns would be too hard i guess
00:54:757 (54757|0) move to 4 OK
01:03:823 (63823|3,63988|0) Ctrl + H OK
01:06:461 (66461|2) move to 2 OK
01:08:603 add note? Oups... thank you xD
01:26:076 (86076|1,86241|2) Ctrl + G? OK
01:33:988 (93988|3) move to 3 OK
02:07:944 (127944|1,128603|0) Ctrl + G OK
02:49:647 (169647|0) move to 2 No, part of pattern

Nice Song, vocal like Miku Hatsune lol
Хорошо~ Good Luck..

-Troke- wrote:

Hello kagu-chan, req from queue
sorry if my mod is short and not helping, because i'm new
1|2|3|4

[NM+]

1. 00:15:032 (15032|3) - move to 2 Nope, i dont see why
2. 00:15:197 (15197|1) - move to 3 Nope, i dont see why
3. 00:15:362 (15362|2) - move to 4 Nope, i dont see why
4. 00:30:197 (30197|3) - move to 3 Nope, i dont see why
5. 00:30:362 (30362|2,30691|1) - move to |3|4 Nope, i dont see why
6. 00:34:318 (34318|3) - move to 3 OK
7. 00:38:603 (38603|1,38768|0) - ctrl+g OK
8. 00:47:999 (47999|1,48164|0) - ctrl+h Nope, i dont see why
9. 00:52:120 (52120|1,52285|2) - ctrl+g and move to 3|4 Nope, i dont see why
10. 01:39:428 (99428|1,99592|0) - ctrl+h Nope, i dont see why
11. 03:00:197 (180197|1,180362|2) - move to left Nope (Pattern)

[HD+]

1. 00:25:581 (25581|0) - move to 2
2. 00:29:867 (29867|0,30032|1) - ctrl+g
3. 00:31:516 (31516|3) - move to 3
4. 00:55:746 (55746|2,55746|0,55911|2,55911|0) - move to right?
5. 01:00:691 (60691|1,60691|2,61021|2) - ctrl+h ?
6. 01:05:801 (65801|3) - move to 3 Nope
7. 01:47:175 (107175|0,107175|2,107340|2,107340|0) - move to right^

All accepted expect the marked in HD+
goodluck

schwarzvgrune wrote:

Bg (1366x768 or 1024 x 768) : Σ( ° △ °|||)︴BG is incorrect. should be 1366, not 1365. its 1365 as shown in my laptop. edit it. For one px users have to redl map? Ill wait what BNs saying.
Hitsounding : Σ( ° △ °|||)︴your hitsound is unnecessarily loud, it should be no more than 35% i'd recommend.
your loudest is 55% for Custom hitsound1 (C1) which is extremely loud to the point of obstructing the song. please revamp all of your hitsound and adjust accordingly I think hitsounds are OK, but HS mod from LordRaika is requested and will be done next week. Also is this diff not completely hitsounded. But thanks for looking over it.[/notice]

BAM

00:19:153 (19153|1,19318|2,19318|0,19400|3,19483|0,19483|2,19483|1) - should have 1/6 stream just like 00:16:680 (16680|1,16735|3,16790|0,16845|1,16845|3) -
can adjust into something like this http://puu.sh/iVbVU/cbc7cc2670.jpg. note that the middle note is 1/4 snap. only the 1st and 3rd is 1/6
No, im absolutely sure that it is 1/4 here.

00:21:955 (21955|2,21955|0,22037|3,22120|0,22120|2,22120|1) - should be the same with 00:20:472 (20472|2,20636|3,20691|1,20746|0,20801|1,20801|2,20801|3) - , revamp. (streeam) Yep, its 1/6, thanks.

00:26:076 - should be 3 notes, keep it consistent, just like 00:26:406 (26406|1,26406|2,26406|3,27065|3,27065|1,27065|0) - Hydria should overview this part :/
00:25:746 - this also should be 3 notes
00:25:417 - 3 notes
00:27:395 - same
00:29:098 (29098|2,29153|1,29290|2) - ghost note, delete.
00:28:713 - should be 3 notes, the phase has not changed yet. you have a lot of issue with layering, make sure it is consistent across the same phase.
00:29:373 (29373|0,29373|1,29702|1,29702|0) - this too, for every red lines, you sometimes use 3, sometimes use 2, please keep it consistent as the beat is very consistent around that part.
00:29:950 - should also be a note here, audible bg pitched instrument
00:30:114 (30114|2) - delete, unless you're also mapping that pitch slides of the vocal
00:34:812 (34812|2,34812|3,34895|1,34895|0,34977|2,34977|3,35059|3,35059|2,35142|1,35142|0,35224|0,35224|1,35307|2,35307|3,35389|2,35389|3,35472|0,35472|1,35554|0) - unnecessary jack, revamp. make it into trill pattern, pitch of the beat is different there is no reason for you to jack at 00:34:977 (34977|3,34977|2,35059|3,35059|2,35142|1,35142|0,35224|0,35224|1,35307|3,35307|2,35389|2,35389|3) -
00:46:351 (46351|2,46351|3) - 1 note is enough imo I think its OK. 2 Notes are on red ticks here, its consistent as the sound is consistent. Also its challange diff and we decided to map with high density. So its OK in my oppinion.
00:46:680 - keep it consistent, 3 notes here, rearrange to avoid jacking
00:47:669 (47669|3,47669|2,47669|1) - emphasis does not justify 3 notes, you use 3 notes for that emphasised beat already, use 2 here

00:49:153 (49153|0,49153|3,49153|1,49318|3,49318|2,49373|1,49428|0,49483|1,49483|2,49483|3) - use 3 notes here for consistency with earlier pattern that i suggested above
00:50:472 (50472|3,50472|2,50472|1) - this is louder than 00:50:142 (50142|1,50142|0,50142|3,50307|3,50307|2,50307|0) - . by utilising 3 notes for all these, you're ignoring the emphasis all together and makes it much more difficult to sight read while playing and listening to the song, readjust as you see fit
00:52:779 (52779|3,52779|2,52779|1) - same, no reason to put 3, should only be 2. wrong emphasis
00:54:428 - add a note to 1, you've been utilising 3 notes to express this beat, the phase has not change keep it consistent

00:56:406 (56406|1,56406|0,56461|3,56516|2,56570|0,56570|1,56625|3,56680|2,56735|1,56735|0) - usually for this sound people express it with 1/8 stream instead of 1/6. i personally, do not recommend 1/6 as it is not integrated or fast enough to justify as a stream since the beat is continuously hold here.


01:06:296 (66296|1,66296|2,66625|0,66625|2,66625|3,66955|1,66955|0) - you got this backward, note count should be 3 2 3, not 2 3 2. Woops... fixed, thanks
01:05:966 - you put 3 here because its a new phase after 4 x 4/4 Was been three with issue above. Fixed with this issue
01:05:636 - and 01:06:296 - and 01:06:955 - should be the same so keep it consistent. ^
01:08:603 (68603|0,68686|0) - unnecessary jack, move it to 3 4 because its empty. after LN its not jack because you withdraw your hold before pressing again. Ah, good to know xD Fixed


01:19:235 (79235|1,79318|2,79400|3,79483|1,79483|0,79483|2,79565|3,79647|1,79730|0,79812|1,79812|2,79812|3,79895|0,79977|2,80059|3,80142|2,80142|1,80142|0,80224|3,80307|2,80389|1) - all streams are ghost note, this is unacceptable, you're basically overmapping this diff, please delete.

01:43:878 (103878|0,103878|1,103878|3,103961|2,104043|0,104125|1,104208|0,104208|2,104208|3,104290|1,104373|2,104455|0,104538|3,104538|1,104538|2,104620|0,104702|3,104785|1,104867|3,104867|0,104867|2,104950|1,105032|2,105114|0,105197|2,105197|3,105197|1,105279|0,105362|1,105444|2) - many notes on blue lines are also ghost notes, please recheck carefully, this is basically overmapping. not appropriate and needs to be fixed... Yes, its overmapped here. I think it seems fine even its overmapped. Ill wait for more modders response for this.

01:45:527 (105527|0,105527|1,105527|3,105691|2,105691|1,105691|3,105856|3,105856|2,105856|0,106021|0,106021|3,106021|1,106186|2,106186|3,106186|1,106351|0,106351|3,106351|2,106516|1,106516|3,106516|2,106680|1,106680|2,106680|0,106845|3,106845|0,106845|1,106845|2,107010|3,107010|0,107010|2,107010|1,107175|0,107175|1,107175|3,107175|2,107340|2,107340|3,107340|1,107340|0,107505|0,107505|1,107505|3,107505|2) - you're ignoring the emphasis of the beat and just put 3 notes and 4 notes and spam them here, not really appropriate imo. this is overmapped. please revamp carefully.
something like this would be better in terms of readability, better representation of the beat, correct emphasis, and of course, no overmap.
01:45:527 - starting from here, revamped note is highlighted. http://puu.sh/iVcII/2a373c11a0.jpg Nope. 3 Hits is for the drum here, its on all beats the same. The 4-chords are since its a bit harder drum and same pitch before 1/8 stream.

01:48:329 (108329|2,108329|1,108494|0,108494|1,108658|1,108658|2,108823|3,108823|2) - only 1 pitch, unreasonable to put 2 notes. this is blatant overmapping. you need to represent the part of the song accurately. this is especially since the pitch of the instrument is not loud that i dont see any justification for you to have 2 notes here.. this is 4k not 8k, you need to consider note count / chord in appropriation with the amount of the total key that we can press as well as emphasis of the actual song. you did this as well in previous part which i failed to mention. please recheck your whole diffs. Yes, it is a bit overmapped. But also its fitting the music here. As i said, for challange diff we decided to use a higher note density, also at this point here.

01:49:647 (109647|2,109647|3,109730|0,109812|3,109812|1,109977|0,109977|2,110059|2,110059|0,110142|3,110142|1) -
your pattern is inconsistent. if you're going to emphasise the vocal then emphasise it correctly. why 212 then suddenly 222 (note count). you did this as well earlier, this is inconsistent and need to be fixed.

01:48:988 (108988|1,108988|0,108988|2,109153|2,109153|1,109153|3,109318|0,109318|1,109318|3,109318|2,109483|0,109483|1,109483|3) - this is also overmapping. 2 2 2 3 should be more appropriate. 2 hits for instrument, 1 for voice. Ive changed the 4-er to 3er.

01:49:483 - this is emphasised, signifying a new phase with very loud beat, where you utilised only 3 notes yet 01:49:318 - you use 4 here, fixed, see above. => not fixed, Hydria has to look.
01:54:922 (114922|0,114922|2,115005|1,115087|3,115087|2,115252|1,115252|0,115334|1,115334|0,115417|3,115417|2) - same issue

01:58:796 (118796|3,118796|2,118878|0,118878|1,118961|0,118961|1,119043|2,119043|3,119125|2,119125|3,119208|1,119208|0,119290|0,119290|1,119373|0,119373|3,119455|3,119455|0,119538|2,119538|1,119620|2,119620|1) - unreasonable jacks to me, the pitch of that instrument is different, no justification to jack at all, please change it into trill form. either 12 34 or 13 24 or 14 23

and that spam should continue until 02:00:032 - . the pitch descends but its until the next phase, you suddenly cut off in the middle. (4/4 lines earlier(
here is an example of what you can do appropriately. http://puu.sh/iVd3i/a4013c260b.jpg

mod ends.
overall this diffs still needs a lot of fixing, many parts are actually overmapped with uneccessary amount of notes. you're abusing the placement too much for the sake of raising the difficulty. song should works for pattern, not the other way around.
if there is no way for you to raise the difficulty from the 2nd hardest one that you currently have this means that it is just not possible to map it into harder song given its current circumstances.
I iknow that this needs fixing. But dont tell me just "all is overmapped" what youre doing here right now. I know that the song decide which patterns are possible and not the other way, but i think it is ok as it is currently. Also this is a collab diff, so two guys have overviewed and mapped this as it is - and we booth think it is ok and not too much overmapped. Isuues are given in map, sure. were not perfect.

SC diff is not using the full potential of this song, thats why i decided to add this Challange Diff. To have a diff which is using all from song what is given.

good luck

schwarzvgrune wrote:

Hi ~\(≧▽≦)/~ Yeah, I'm back, surprised to see me?

BAM

00:19:153 (19153|1,19318|2,19318|0,19400|3,19483|0,19483|2,19483|1) - should have 1/6 stream just like 00:16:680 (16680|1,16735|3,16790|0,16845|1,16845|3) -
can adjust into something like this http://puu.sh/iVbVU/cbc7cc2670.jpg. note that the middle note is 1/4 snap. only the 1st and 3rd is 1/6

00:21:955 (21955|2,21955|0,22037|3,22120|0,22120|2,22120|1) - should be the same with 00:20:472 (20472|2,20636|3,20691|1,20746|0,20801|1,20801|2,20801|3) - , revamp. (streeam)

00:26:076 - should be 3 notes, keep it consistent, just like 00:26:406 (26406|1,26406|2,26406|3,27065|3,27065|1,27065|0) - Changed
00:25:746 - this also should be 3 notes Changed
00:25:417 - 3 notes Changed
00:27:395 - same Changed
00:29:098 (29098|2,29153|1,29290|2) - ghost note, delete. Deleted 2, left the last one in
00:28:713 - should be 3 notes, the phase has not changed yet. you have a lot of issue with layering, make sure it is consistent across the same phase.
00:29:373 (29373|0,29373|1,29702|1,29702|0) - this too, for every red lines, you sometimes use 3, sometimes use 2, please keep it consistent as the beat is very consistent around that part. Will go over and check placements
00:29:950 - should also be a note here, audible bg pitched instrument added
00:30:114 (30114|2) - delete, unless you're also mapping that pitch slides of the vocal Seems strange to have a gap in a 1/4 pattern
00:34:812 (34812|2,34812|3,34895|1,34895|0,34977|2,34977|3,35059|3,35059|2,35142|1,35142|0,35224|0,35224|1,35307|2,35307|3,35389|2,35389|3,35472|0,35472|1,35554|0) - unnecessary jack, revamp. make it into trill pattern, pitch of the beat is different there is no reason for you to jack at 00:34:977 (34977|3,34977|2,35059|3,35059|2,35142|1,35142|0,35224|0,35224|1,35307|3,35307|2,35389|2,35389|3) - Changed into a cleaner pattern
00:46:351 (46351|2,46351|3) - 1 note is enough imo
00:46:680 - keep it consistent, 3 notes here, rearrange to avoid jacking Changed and removed a note from 1/2 beat before
00:47:669 (47669|3,47669|2,47669|1) - emphasis does not justify 3 notes, you use 3 notes for that emphasised beat already, use 2 here The 3 notes are to cover the lyrics to where there isn't a 1/4 note afterwards, which is why the 3 notes will remain

00:49:153 (49153|0,49153|3,49153|1,49318|3,49318|2,49373|1,49428|0,49483|1,49483|2,49483|3) - use 3 notes here for consistency with earlier pattern that i suggested above Changed and removed a note from first chord
00:50:472 (50472|3,50472|2,50472|1) - this is louder than 00:50:142 (50142|1,50142|0,50142|3,50307|3,50307|2,50307|0) - . by utilising 3 notes for all these, you're ignoring the emphasis all together and makes it much more difficult to sight read while playing and listening to the song, readjust as you see fit The 3 notes are to cover the lyrics to where there isn't a 1/4 note afterwards, which is why the 3 notes will remain
00:52:779 (52779|3,52779|2,52779|1) - same, no reason to put 3, should only be 2. wrong emphasis It's for lyrics
00:54:428 - add a note to 1, you've been utilising 3 notes to express this beat, the phase has not change keep it consistent Changed

00:56:406 (56406|1,56406|0,56461|3,56516|2,56570|0,56570|1,56625|3,56680|2,56735|1,56735|0) - usually for this sound people express it with 1/8 stream instead of 1/6. i personally, do not recommend 1/6 as it is not integrated or fast enough to justify as a stream since the beat is continuously hold here. Changed


01:06:296 (66296|1,66296|2,66625|0,66625|2,66625|3,66955|1,66955|0) - you got this backward, note count should be 3 2 3, not 2 3 2.
01:05:966 - you put 3 here because its a new phase after 4 x 4/4
01:05:636 - and 01:06:296 - and 01:06:955 - should be the same so keep it consistent.
01:08:603 (68603|0,68686|0) - unnecessary jack, move it to 3 4 because its empty. after LN its not jack because you withdraw your hold before pressing again.


01:19:235 (79235|1,79318|2,79400|3,79483|1,79483|0,79483|2,79565|3,79647|1,79730|0,79812|1,79812|2,79812|3,79895|0,79977|2,80059|3,80142|2,80142|1,80142|0,80224|3,80307|2,80389|1) - all streams are ghost note, this is unacceptable, you're basically overmapping this diff, please delete. Switching from streams in the chorus to sudden LNs at the end doesn't make sense and the streams still keep up with the rhythm. It'll remain unchanged for now, but if other people see problems with it, then it will be changed.

01:43:878 (103878|0,103878|1,103878|3,103961|2,104043|0,104125|1,104208|0,104208|2,104208|3,104290|1,104373|2,104455|0,104538|3,104538|1,104538|2,104620|0,104702|3,104785|1,104867|3,104867|0,104867|2,104950|1,105032|2,105114|0,105197|2,105197|3,105197|1,105279|0,105362|1,105444|2) - many notes on blue lines are also ghost notes, please recheck carefully, this is basically overmapping. not appropriate and needs to be fixed...

01:45:527 (105527|0,105527|1,105527|3,105691|2,105691|1,105691|3,105856|3,105856|2,105856|0,106021|0,106021|3,106021|1,106186|2,106186|3,106186|1,106351|0,106351|3,106351|2,106516|1,106516|3,106516|2,106680|1,106680|2,106680|0,106845|3,106845|0,106845|1,106845|2,107010|3,107010|0,107010|2,107010|1,107175|0,107175|1,107175|3,107175|2,107340|2,107340|3,107340|1,107340|0,107505|0,107505|1,107505|3,107505|2) - you're ignoring the emphasis of the beat and just put 3 notes and 4 notes and spam them here, not really appropriate imo. this is overmapped. please revamp carefully.
something like this would be better in terms of readability, better representation of the beat, correct emphasis, and of course, no overmap.
01:45:527 - starting from here, revamped note is highlighted. http://puu.sh/iVcII/2a373c11a0.jpg

01:48:329 (108329|2,108329|1,108494|0,108494|1,108658|1,108658|2,108823|3,108823|2) - only 1 pitch, unreasonable to put 2 notes. this is blatant overmapping. you need to represent the part of the song accurately. this is especially since the pitch of the instrument is not loud that i dont see any justification for you to have 2 notes here.. this is 4k not 8k, you need to consider note count / chord in appropriation with the amount of the total key that we can press as well as emphasis of the actual song. you did this as well in previous part which i failed to mention. please recheck your whole diffs.

01:49:647 (109647|2,109647|3,109730|0,109812|3,109812|1,109977|0,109977|2,110059|2,110059|0,110142|3,110142|1) -
your pattern is inconsistent. if you're going to emphasise the vocal then emphasise it correctly. why 212 then suddenly 222 (note count). you did this as well earlier, this is inconsistent and need to be fixed. Changed

01:48:988 (108988|1,108988|0,108988|2,109153|2,109153|1,109153|3,109318|0,109318|1,109318|3,109318|2,109483|0,109483|1,109483|3) - this is also overmapping. 2 2 2 3 should be more appropriate.

01:49:483 - this is emphasised, signifying a new phase with very loud beat, where you utilised only 3 notes yet 01:49:318 - you use 4 here,
01:54:922 (114922|0,114922|2,115005|1,115087|3,115087|2,115252|1,115252|0,115334|1,115334|0,115417|3,115417|2) - same issue Changed

01:58:796 (118796|3,118796|2,118878|0,118878|1,118961|0,118961|1,119043|2,119043|3,119125|2,119125|3,119208|1,119208|0,119290|0,119290|1,119373|0,119373|3,119455|3,119455|0,119538|2,119538|1,119620|2,119620|1) - unreasonable jacks to me, the pitch of that instrument is different, no justification to jack at all, please change it into trill form. either 12 34 or 13 24 or 14 23 Changed into a JS

and that spam should continue until 02:00:032 - . the pitch descends but its until the next phase, you suddenly cut off in the middle. (4/4 lines earlier(
here is an example of what you can do appropriately. http://puu.sh/iVd3i/a4013c260b.jpg Already sorted

mod ends.
overall this diffs still needs a lot of fixing, many parts are actually overmapped with uneccessary amount of notes. you're abusing the placement too much for the sake of raising the difficulty. song should works for pattern, not the other way around.
if there is no way for you to raise the difficulty from the 2nd hardest one that you currently have this means that it is just not possible to map it into harder song given its current circumstances.

Let's hope the next time we meet the change list can be a bit smaller.

good luck

-SoraGami- wrote:

Hi Kagu-chan! xD

here's my mod
1|2|3|4

[Challenge]
try this? more comfortable and easy to play http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3373896 Not as recommened, but rearranged
00:23:439 (23439|0,23603|0) - this part is not balance, too much strain for the left hand, try https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3373910 I see, rearranged a bit. Hope its better now
00:25:911 (25911|3,25911|2,25966|1,26021|0,26076|2,26076|0) - try [34][2][1][24]? for balance OK, also its fitting with this 00:26:570 (26570|2,26570|0,26625|3,26680|2,26735|1,26735|0) - now
00:33:329 - add note for the kick sound OK
00:34:428 (34428|1,34428|0) - delete, no specific sound There sounds (the Guitar) - ill tell Hydria to fix this part since its wrong. But there is a sound :p 00:34:318 (34318|0,34318|3,34318|2,34428|1,34428|0,34483|2,34538|3,34592|0,34647|1,34647|2) -
00:53:933 (53933|0) - move to 2 for balance OK
00:53:274 (53274|2,53274|1,53356|3) - move to left then 00:53:439 (53439|2) - to right for balance (notice the jacks at 3rd col) OK
00:54:757 (54757|1) - move to 1 for better balance and to avoid double jack (00:54:757 (54757|3,54757|1,54922|3,54922|1) - ) OK
00:59:208 (59208|0) - move to 3 for more balance OK
01:00:691 (60691|1,60691|2,60774|0) - move to left Moved to right, i guess that is what you wanted... left would result in a triple jack xD
01:11:735 (71735|3) - move to 2 Nope. I have a lot of left stairs there, this would be boring i think
01:26:955 (86955|3,86955|2) - snap it in the blue line
01:49:483 - add note to emphasize the sound with the previous note I think 4-er chord would be too much here - also it would result in a jackhammer :/
01:57:614 (117614|3,117669|2) - i think not 1/6 Hydria, please check your refrain xD
01:58:715 - not making this part LN? like what you did before Since its a CFollab diff they're two mapping styles. Hydria should decide. I like the LNs :p
02:55:412 - ^ Since its a CFollab diff they're two mapping styles. Hydria should decide. I like the LNs :p
02:07:669 (127669|2,127724|1,127779|3,127779|0,127834|2,127889|1) - not 1/6 i think Ill left this over Hydria :3
02:31:351 (151351|1) - move to 1 OK
03:02:010 (182010|1) - delete, same sound with 03:02:340 (182340|1,182340|3,182340|2) - Fixed

sorry can't mod much, my mouse is too baka xD
Good Luck! ^^

-SoraGami- wrote:

00:34:428 (34428|1,34428|0) - delete, no specific sound | the double was supposed to be 1/6th above (on red line), fixed now.
01:57:614 (117614|3,117669|2) - i think not 1/6 | Going with vocal matching here. If someone else reports that as an issue, I'll change it.
01:58:715 - not making this part LN?
02:55:412 - ^ | I come from SM, and we're not a big fan of LNs around there.
02:07:669 (127669|2,127724|1,127779|3,127779|0,127834|2,127889|1) - not 1/6 i think | See reason 2.

sorry can't mod much, my mouse is too baka xD
Good Luck! ^^ | Sorry for disagreeing with most of your points but I appreciate the mod anyway, thanks for the help!

Kagu-chan wrote:

Thanks for clarification.
I dont like to start drama or similar here (:
BG => Ill fix the BG if i have time - for your information, its grabbed from a ranket version. But ill fix it. I see what you want to say, but (as many others) i think one px is not really a reason to dq. But ok, ill fix it.

Overmapping: I know it is overmapped. But i think it is not too much and a bit overmapping is OK. But ive asked 17 Modders for now and will ask more modders with the time, parts which are really too much will be fixed in this time by progress. I like to hear two opinions instead of one. If someone say "fix this", ill remember your mod and think about it again. So its not useless even i declined your recommendations.
Hitsounding => I wait for HS mod and think about it then. The problem here is that i hitosunded first time more then a basic Hitsounding, with a bit help from a advanced hitsounder it should be OK. LordRaika will fix Hitsounds not as BN, he will fix as normal modder with me (:

@-SoraGami- - Ill include your mod later then, thanks :3

try24get wrote:

First of all, I guess you can remove these diffs: NM, HD, MX
Nope xD
The diffs you want to hold was these diffs where i said there too hard for "normal NM diff" and a "normal HD diff" - so i added the nerved versions. MX and SC are fine too i think. So there for each player something he / she can play. Maybe ReDL, havent you seen Challange Diff yet?

Diff Spread is mostly calculated and fixed, so i dont think there problems.

You have too many diffs, well I think It would made your work harder, waiting mods for example.
I hope every diffs you have there modded equally
then, I remove those diffs because for star jump. Let's count
EZ - NM+ - HD+ - SC (Challange holded because hardest diff, but not counted here)
1.45 - 2.18 - 2.99 - 4.13
-> 0.73 - 0.71 - 1.14
If you still want to hold your diffs, try to open GD or collab and ask them to search mod too

---NM+---
00:01:351 - 00:14:537 - add notes for flute. Ahh~ those days Intro Part i leaved entry for effect (All Diffs)
00:35:472 (35472|3) - move to 3, avoid 2 notes at same keys placed 2 snaps apart For this diff its OK i think. And it fits nice here
00:58:054 - 01:19:153 - Somehow I notice that some notes following vocal on this part. Actually I want to change them but I don't have any sugestion yet, that vocal too dominate Its the refrain part. Just follow Drums here would be a bit boring and inanimate...
01:21:790 (81790|0) - vocal? remove then add notes for drum or sounds on 01:25:087 - 01:26:983 instead No. This vocal is too dominant to ignore it xD
01:28:713 (88713|2,89043|3) - Ctrl + G maybe? If i strg G here, then i would have to split the long LN into two LNs. Thats too hard for NM+ diff i think, so i keep it since its better fitting as it is then.
01:29:373 (89373|2) - move to 4 if you follow mod above ^
01:47:010 (107010|2) - move to 2, avoid 2 notes at same keys placed 2 snaps apart Moved to 1, thanks
01:49:483 - 02:10:581 - same like 00:58:054 - 01:19:153 case See above
02:13:219 - 02:23:768 - vocal? If so remap then Tell me a good reason For piano part i used HD and higher diffs, for NM its too much i think. Since the song is not that short i guess this chilling part is nice for not that advanced / stamina players.
02:23:768 (143768|1,146406|2,149043|2,150362|1,151680|1,152175|2,152669|1,152999|0) - vocal? if so remove and add notes for drum instead Why? D:
02:35:636 - 02:56:735 - same like 00:58:054 - 01:19:153 case ^
---HD+---
00:01:351 - 00:14:537 - add notes for flute. See above
00:14:537 - 00:25:087 - sliders that placed at this part feels weird for me. I guess use notes and sliders to add flute at this part I changed them to fit more with flute in BG, I hope its OK as it is
00:35:636 - 00:45:856 - add sliders for guitar like 00:40:252 (40252|3). And I guess 00:41:570 (41570|2,42889|3) are misplaced Fixed and rearranged
01:21:790 (81790|1) - vocal? remove then No, see above
02:13:219 (133219|3,135856|2,138494|0,141131|3) - ^ ^
~~~~~~
Sorry I only mod these diffs
I hope this mod can help and your map get ranked
GLHF