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osu! Catch the Beat World Cup 2015 - Discussion Thread

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karterfreak
Netherlands vs South Korea was amazing, enough said.
autofanboy

Tasha wrote:

Netherlands vs South Korea was amazing, enough said.
InsaneToe

Tasha wrote:

Netherlands vs South Korea was amazing, enough said.
Yes it was! :D
BlasterONE

Tasha wrote:

Netherlands vs South Korea was amazing, enough said.
epic match
Badis

Zak wrote:

Badis pls
wtf xDDDDDD even when I don't have 1 miss I have 1 miss ;_;
Deif
Never forget:

Topic Starter
Loctav
Wiki completely updated.
autofanboy
lol rip HK

last year vs Germany on first round
this time vs Korea on first round

im done o:
Nwolf
woof woof

Map picks from Group Stage, if anybody's interested

Total matches: 35 - Total amount of maps played: 187

Rita - Princess Blood (CLSW) [Rain] <NM> 16
sasakure.UK - Jack-the-Ripper (Sprosive) [JackHasCome!] <NM> 16
Drop - Yunagi Rinne (Shinxyn) [Insane] <DT> 14
fripSide - LEVEL5 -judgelight- (Full Ver.) (cyborg) [Insane] <DT> 14
October - Time to Love (CLSW) [Posthumous] <DT> 14
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Hanatan - Hyakunen Yakou (eveless) [Insane] <NM> 13
Xelia - Illumiscape (Kanna) [Drafura's CTB Platter] <NM> 13
Kino Nei - Ougon Mosou Kyoku ~Konjiki no Chi ni Somaru Mae ni~ (Suzully) [Golden Truth] <HR> 12
senya - Tsuki ni Murakumo Hana ni Kaze (PV ver.) (Vhy) [Rain] <NM> 12
Kyary Pamyu Pamyu - Ninya Re Bang Bang (IchiGUN) [Hard] <HR> 10
TERRA - ever snow (ouranhshc) [Hard] <HR> 9
Rchetype - V Is For (Blue Dragon) [Insane] <HD> 8
Traktion - Mission ASCII (galvenize) [Another] <NM> 8
sta - Iris (ampzz) [Insane] <HD> 7
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BURTON - Shinonomegiku ([_Crystal]) [Kurokami's Platter] <DT> 6
Goose House - 18sai (mingmichael) [Rain] <HD> 4
Chata - Dango Daikazoku -TV Animation Ver.- (Pappy) [Platter] <HR> 3
bibuko - Crayon (val0108) [Insane] <HD> 2
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Hanatan - If (Rakuen) [wkyik's Insane] <TB> 6






dat Netherlands - South Korea match tho
CLSW
\:D/ Thanks for the list!
Time-

Nwolf wrote:

bibuko - Crayon (val0108) [Insane] <HD> 2
So many hates on low ar maps :(
Boom

Nwolf wrote:

woof woof
Chata - Dango Daikazoku -TV Animation Ver.- (Pappy) [Platter] <HR> 3
Dango :x
autofanboy
because most DT maps and no mods are picked by hk lol
Ddraigon
Chile underrated.
FlyingKiwi
And Taiwan I guess.
CLSW


Personally the best tiebreaker match of Group Stage I guess.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Oh god the echo
PyaKura
The fuck's wrong with the commentators O.o
Kosmit


Version without echo.
Krzysiek
Teams after group stages:
Win - number of maps won
Loses - number of maps lost
Aces - number of maps this player ended with highest score in his team

WujekGrzyb
Look at all these statistics. Isn't he awesome? :)
Professor Gila

Krzysiek wrote:

Teams after group stages:
Win - number of maps won
Loses - number of maps lost
Aces - number of maps this player ended with highest score in his team

Sweet :)

With this, i can do some research to measure the probability of winning of each team :)

btw, how did you get all of those datas?
Oinari-sama
Thanks Krzysiek, I really enjoy stats like that.
Krzysiek
Stats are based on player pp gained from maps played with specific mods. So far they've proven to be quite accurate \o/.
Professor Gila

Krzysiek wrote:

Stats are based on player pp gained from maps played with specific mods. So far they've proven to be quite accurate \o/.
that's great! :)
Topic Starter
Loctav
Can I use that?
Nwolf
Map picks from Round of 16

Total matches: 7 - Total maps played: 43

Picks - Bans

IOSYS - Chanteikku Sanyousei no Itazura Daisensou (Kurosanyan) [Strongest Fariy] <NM> 6 - 0
Glutamine - Babylon (CSY the corrupt) [Corruption] <NM> 5 - 0
Meiko - Leave The Lights On (KROT Remix) (Moway) [Insane] <HR> 5 - 0
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Nero's Day At Disneyland - No Money Down, Low Monthly Payments (grumd) [Insane] <HD> 3 - 1
IOSYS - Power of Dream (Night Fever Remix) (Kite) [Power of Stream] <HR> 3 - 2
Tune Up - Bounce! (Nightcore Mix) (osuplayer111) [jericho2442's Rave!!] <DT> 3 - 2
Hatsuki Yura - HAMELN (karenying) [Insane] <DT> 2 - 0
Hatsune Miku - Nehanshika (Shiirn) [Abomination] <NM> 2 - 0
Mind Vortex - Alive (Katty Pie) [Insane] <NM> 2 - 0
Tatsh - Fuushi Kaden (happy30) [Hard] <DT> 2 - 1
Rameses B - Flaklypa (-kevincela-) [Insane] <HR> 2 - 4
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07th Expansion - miragecoordinator (La Cataline) [Hard] <DT> 1 - 0
fripSide - only my railgun (Full Ver.) (S i R i R u) [Level 5] <HR> 1 - 0
MiddleIsland - Achromat (Tidek) [Insane] <NM> 1 - 1
Nanjou Yoshino & Kusuda Aina - Garasu no Hanazano (Hinsvar) [Soulmate] <HD> 1 - 1
KAZAHA - Saijin no hanata ne (Drafura) [Rain] <NM> 1 - 2
Caravan Palace - Rock It For Me (tidek) [Insane] <HD> 1 - 5
Cascada - What Hurts The Most (Nightcore Remix) (Lunah) [Insane] <HD> 1 - 5
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Saiya - Remote Control (CLSW) [Crystal Spec] <TB> 1





rip HD maps :C
Time-
Indo picks 2 HD :D
Topic Starter
Loctav
wiki updated
Krzysiek
@Loctav sure you can use them, will update in the coming days.
Professor Gila
you made a great analysis Krzysiek \o/

Hope they will remain accurate as you keep update them :)
eldnl
best mappools ever, srsly
Krzysiek
Teams after Ro16:
Win - number of maps won
Loses - number of maps lost
Aces - number of maps this player ended with highest score in his team
How graphs are made: pick top10 pp maps from each player and each mode.

sables
That ExGon.
Ddraigon
ExGon on graphic ...



In PES


He's striker, midfielder, defender, goalkeeper, coach, refeere, goal, audience, etc.
Professor Gila
That's the final boss ._.

like Godcat on epic mode ._.

are you serious Krzysiek?
FlyingKiwi
ExGod.
Trosk-
Dat Grahpic O_o
autofanboy
zZz
best rules 2k15
fix the tourney cwc2016 pls

There are quite a lot of concerns and problems below that I find annoying, especially the middle part HK 2-3 TW changed to HK 1-4 TW.

1. Fail score shouldn't be instantly removed.
It is really demoralizing to see the score drops to 0 even though you got a high combo and fail... (Unless the tournament aims on weighing accuracy > combo, then getting an almost-FC and fail at last = 0? Really?). It should be counting the score before the player fails and not counting the scores afterwards. In *this case, the scores failed should be counted before the players got failed.

2. Disconnected score shouldn't be instantly removed from the match.
The disconnected scores should be counted as well, you just have to count the score before the player disconnects. In *this case, SakaNa's score was still captured before he disconnects, which means the score should count at this point, but not nullifying the score.

3. Fix the whole Score Counting System / Match Info Page.
Take a look at *this. It was originally 1-3 at this point (neglect the previous one which might count as 3-2 or 4-1 etc.) , however the score counting system means the scores have to be captured by the Bancho server and here it is. Originally it will be 2-3 since there are 2 TW players and 1 HK players got disconnected, yet it still counted as 1-4 because Bancho recorded tk9527's score, while the match info page didn't mention, so it is kind of controversial whether which score panel counts.

4. Bugs in the Match Info Page.
In *this screenshot, even though SakaNa got disconnected, how come his score was recorded as Red Team? Maybe it is just bugs in the page but come on, fix them.

Note that I am not really aggressive towards CWC2015, but I think it needs far more improvements, not only just the match between HK and TW, but also the other matches which I believe they have the same problems as well. Fixing the rules, disconnection problems (how come 3 players got disconnected in the same match), the HR-mod picking thing, and etc., can provide a more smooth and fair tournament. If possible, there should be a rematch due to the various bugs. I hope to see CWC2016 improves in the soon future. Still, the staff are working well in the whole tournament, keep it up.

At the end, I am sorry if my words are hard to comprehend as I am just a 15-year kid and English is not my mother language either. Thank you for reading the whole post.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Simple: CtB multi has the mechanic of failing and reviving and surviving. To set a score, at least pass. That's how it works. This won't be changed.

Disconnected players shouldn't be removed? What? How? Ever had a Skype call? If they DC, they get removed. That's intended behavior. Disconnects have been frequently abused in past world cups. Moreover, if you DC, you send no score. We have no data, so you have no score. What are we supposed to take? Dice out the score?

The third point is something I don't understand. Again, if the score doesn't get submitted and passed Bancho (mind, this is also a security measurement), we don't count it.

The score you see is a fake one, as far as I got told. This is a bug, you can report that in tech support. Either way. It was detected as fake score and treated accordingly (see above)

Majority of your concerns are invalid, sorry.
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