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Yuudachi-kun

CptBlackBird wrote:

I play everything and that's why my reading is not-that-bad
One day I will Ar8. ONE DAY!
bigfeh

Kheldragar wrote:

CptBlackBird wrote:

I play everything and that's why my reading is not-that-bad
One day I will Ar8. ONE DAY!
ar8 is ez pz

only problem is ar8 maps are usually undermapped, which is why I miss notes because I click too early
Noobsicle

Philosofikal wrote:

Um, yes? He literally stated he won't replay a map more than a couple of times, but that's exactly the opposite what you need to be doing in this situation. It's also an interesting coincidence that his most played map is also his top play.
he doesn't need to replay a single map more than 2-3 times, who says he can't play a variety of other maps?
he also stated in the same comment that memorizing a map with hr =/= learning hr: just because he can SS one OD6 map with hr doesn't mean he can actually read ar10 comfortably.
sure, it'll help him for a bit, but he'll just crumble once he moves onto a different map
playing a variety of different maps will benefit him better than trying to grind out plays for a single FC

it sounds like you're suggesting learning ar10 = memorization, it really isn't. pros like koromo and kynan-chan could probably sight-read ar10 easily, the only problem for them when using hr is being able to have consistent accuracy, which again will differ from map to map depending on their varying difficulties

you really only need to grind a map when you're aiming for an fc / pp, you shouldn't be doing this when you're learning hr since you'll just rely on memorization rather than your reading ability
-sev

bigfeh wrote:

ar8 is ez pz

only problem is ar8 maps are usually undermapped, which is why I miss notes because I click too early
top kek
buny
wait you aren't the real illkryn


wtf
Barusamikosu

bigfeh wrote:

ar8 is ez pz
ar8 is great
ZenithPhantasm

buny wrote:

wait you aren't the real illkryn


wtf
B-]
Yuudachi-kun

buny wrote:

wait you aren't the real illkryn


wtf
Who?
GoldenWolf

Kheldragar wrote:

Who?
Ahh, the memories.
Yuudachi-kun

GoldenWolf wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Who?
Ahh, the memories.
I just thought Cheezstik changed his name to something different.
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buny wrote:

wait you aren't the real illkryn


wtf
rip the name cheezstik
bigfeh

Philosofikal wrote:

Noobsicle wrote:

did you honestly believe making a comparison to another player's most played beatmaps clearly implied the idea of:
1. playing throughout the whole map to improve consistency
2. "focused practice"
Um, yes? He literally stated he won't replay a map more than a couple of times, but that's exactly the opposite what you need to be doing in this situation. It's also an interesting coincidence that his most played map is also his top play.

I'm not to the point where I can read AR10 anywhere, but I'm pretty sure that since the lead time for AR10 brushes up against the length of the average human reaction time, it doesn't become "easy" to read, ever. You have to learn the map, and you do that by playing it all the way through multiple times, and learning what you need to do in advance. The more you have to think about what you're doing, the slower you'll be, and you need to be as fast as possible to read AR10+.
Yes, ar10 becomes easy to read. When we get to ar11 and family, however, we're talking about fucking wizardry. There are some ARs that are mathematically near impossible to sightread

Philosofikal wrote:

I can prove it to you by showing that Can't Defeat Airman is a song you learn to play by doing precisely this. The only way you can learn to play it well is by playing it so many times you know the entire song in your muscle memory.

















What a shocker. That's just the people that have posted in this thread, by the way. I'd respond to the rest of your post but honestly I don't really care enough. Too much typing.
Not true. I passed it after about 15 tries. It's not even a hard pass, because it's hp3 and I like jumps. My acc was shit and I'm OBVIOUSLY not good enough to play it, but the point here is muscle memory is my ass. You just need to know how to jump. As for the plays, I'd attribute that to the fact that when you're FCing a jump map, which is prone to shitmisses, you need to hit every single note. This means a lot of retries

Philosofikal wrote:

buny wrote:

how the fuck does that have anything to do with what I said? Yours is posted in condescending manner (you didn't even offer advice, just said that "HR isn't going to make you better") and by the looks of it, tied to HR on easier maps
It's pretty much exactly what you said (you'll start playing it when you can handle it) except written concisely. I don't see how you think that was written even remotely condescendingly, I think you're just mad, and projecting your emotions onto what I typed in an entirely different discussion.

The topic of the thread was "When do I start playing HR?" and my advice was "you'll know when you're ready, there is no specific time". Pretty cut and dry.

Illkryn wrote:

garbage
You completely misinterpreted what I said. You are not even close. Go back and re read until you figure out where you fucked up.

No wonder everyone thinks I'm acting like I'm hot shit at this game when I'm not. All I really did was study a lot of top-tier play to figure out how they did it and what I need to be doing, and now I'm trying to put in the hours to get good at it. I don't claim to know everything or possess the physical skills to fully utilize what I know, and I learn new things every day, but I still think I have a really good idea of how things work.
Are we really going there again? Did everybody forget about last time?

GoldenWolf wrote:

Riince making actual quality post, what happened....
ikr

MASSIVE EDIT
GUYS GUYS GUYS
HOLY SHIT

Riince wrote:

so i passed HEY FUCKER [EXTRA]
FIANLLY
IT'S GONNA RAIN SCALPELS RUN FOR COVER
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Philosofikal wrote:

hi mum

so when is this thread getting locked
bigfeh

Faces3 wrote:

Philosofikal wrote:

hi mum

so when is this thread getting locked
nevar

and don't say the word that starts with L anymore or you might summon the one who must not be named
deletemyaccount

Philosofikal wrote:

what the fuck ever lol I'm done
I've been reading your posts in the past few days, and you seem to be going through a stage where your *ahem* rapid growth has instilled a superiority complex in you. Take a step back and accept that sometimes you're wrong; it really becomes obvious when you begin nitpicking other peoples arguments.

Acknowledging that it's very difficult to convey expression through text, you're posts also display an air of arrogance; you're just being a dick when you call people retards and act condescendingly as if everything you say is right and everyone else is wrong (there's a word for that, its a bigot).

This isn't a personal attack, I'm just trying to help ;)
Lagel

bigfeh wrote:

and don't say the word that starts with L anymore or you might summon the one who must not be named
How'd you know i had a Harry Potter marathon on thursday?
bigfeh

Lagel wrote:

bigfeh wrote:

and don't say the word that starts with L anymore or you might summon the one who must not be named
How'd you know i had a Harry Potter marathon on thursday?
I know everything
Yuudachi-kun

Philantropist wrote:

Philosofikal wrote:

what the fuck ever lol I'm done
I've been reading your posts in the past few days, and you seem to be going through a stage where your *ahem* rapid growth has instilled a superiority complex in you. Take a step back and accept that sometimes you're wrong; it really becomes obvious when you begin nitpicking other peoples arguments.

Acknowledging that it's very difficult to convey expression through text, you're posts also display an air of arrogance; you're just being a dick when you call people retards and act condescendingly as if everything you say is right and everyone else is wrong (there's a word for that, its a bigot).

This isn't a personal attack, I'm just trying to help ;)

He didn't go to 20k in a week = not fast
Vuelo Eluko
philosofikal do you play call of duty by any chance
ZenithPhantasm

Riince wrote:

philosofikal do you play call of duty by any chance
I heard he a gud mLg FaZe n0Sc0P3r. Be careful Riince 8-)
bigfeh

Riince wrote:

philosofikal do you play call of duty by any chance
GoldenWolf

bigfeh wrote:

Damn that's some scary teeth
bigfeh

GoldenWolf wrote:

bigfeh wrote:

Damn that's some scary teeth
rawr
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GoldenWolf wrote:

bigfeh wrote:

Damn son where'd you find this
ftfy
drum drum
ok it's time to die thread

rip
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