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NaomiMinette
Biri Biri

Justykanna wrote:

Was facing my brother with Lucario vs Fox the other day... am I the only one who finds it stupid that his (Lucario's) front-B is reflectable? -_-

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Yes.
I dunno man; seeing as how it's essentially a grab that whiffs outside of it's grabbox range.

Blazevoir wrote:

Jeez... makes me wonder what's going on: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/12/weirdness_defective_fox_and_villager_amiibo_now_appear_on_ebay

EDIT: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/12/rumour_villager_marth_and_wii_fit_trainer_amiibo_discontinued
...Villager Marth. Lol. Not even if I saw it at Nintendo Direct live.
Justykanna

Kamidachi wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Was facing my brother with Lucario vs Fox the other day... am I the only one who finds it stupid that his (Lucario's) front-B is reflectable? -_-

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Yes.
I dunno man; seeing as how it's essentially a grab that whiffs outside of it's grabbox range.
Hm?
I actually use it as my grab on Lucario since I really can't get the hang of grabbing in the game (I normally hold my N3DS without my left finger on the L button), lol.
Topic Starter
Birdy
To me it's still more like a projectile than grab. But what do I know, I never use Lucario.
NaomiMinette
Force Palm (at least the default; no clue about the other two alternates since I don't like them) in these games is both a grab and a projectile (I main Lucario, btw).
Justykanna

Blazevoir wrote:

Force Palm (at least the default; no clue about the other two alternates since I don't like them) in these games is both a grab and a projectile (I main Lucario, btw).
Totally don't remember it being reflectable in Brawl. >_>
That's my bad I guess but that doesn't make it any less dumb, lol.
NaomiMinette
If it wasn't in Brawl, then it was probably because the extended range and power it gets when Lucario gets high damage needed to be nerfed somehow.

EDIT: Well... I'm officially annoyed... http://nintendoeverything.com/lucario-amiibo-pre-orders-sold-out-on-toys-r-us/ They're back in stock for preordering... for now.

EDIT 2: Interesting articles:
- http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/12/weirdness_super_smash_bros_for_wii_u_fans_find_fun_new_ways_to_brawl
- http://nintendoeverything.com/legless-peach-amiibo-sells-for-25000-on-ebay/
- http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-talks-duck-hunt-inclusion-in-smash-bros-8-player-smash-originally-planned-for-melee-more/
Topic Starter
Birdy


Here's an absolutely serious tutorial for Home-Run Contest.

Ministry of Silly Techniques™
NaomiMinette
blackenanan

Blazevoir wrote:

So it seems like there's more hidden files: http://nintendoeverything.com/hidden-palutenas-guidance-audio-clip-discovered-in-smash-bros-wii-u-data/
I actually saw a video on this yesterday...
NaomiMinette
Trash Boat
Crimmi
Checked the Wii U's Conquest and this week it's a "Holiday Hattack!" It;s Team Red Hat (Mario, Ness & Diddy Kong) against Team Green Hat (Link, Toon Link & Luigi)

Also if you want to add friends to the Wii U version, you have to add them from the Wii U menu I think, you have to check out the last few players you encountered in the game you last played, I got at least ONE friend >.> but if you want a battle, my Nintendo Network ID is: SoyokazeTsuki
Serraionga

Blazevoir wrote:

This is only a joke, but lol: http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-of-america-jokes-about-a-reggie-amiibo/
10/10 would buy :^)
owoful
Topic Starter
Birdy
Only thing surprising is the lack of Fox. hahagetit

Rosalina is my main, btw.
NaomiMinette
Rofl, I got it.

Btw, people are saying Diddy Kong's OP and that he needs a nerf: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/12/super_smash_bros_pro_players_tackle_the_problem_of_diddy_kong
Jarby
That's just a public list, essentially a popularity contest; note that Mario is ranked #11 while Dr. Mario is #39. It will still take some time before accurate commentary can be given to tournament viability, especially when you consider things like custom moves and banned stages.

Incidentally, I have virtually no idea how to fight Sonic. I only see him online on occasion and his playstyle is so wildly different that I just wing it. Still not as bad as fighting good Lucarios and Little Macs.
owoful
Justykanna
Lol I've never been a fan of these tier lists. Way too many factors too consider (and someone I know thinks I'm crazy for thinking so). I tend to have a lot of favourites that are no where near the top such as Ganondorf (who is my second or third favourite).
Serraionga
Even if he gets a nerf, players would then probably just find another character to rant on.



the fun thing is, Fox dominates Melee scene and everyone's somehow fine with that lol
Nwolf
because it's Fox
Dainesl
People rant on a ton of things all the time, it's just how humans are. Imo tier lists are just another thing that people rant about because "omg this dude's broken so i bet i can become uber pro by maining him wwww" is something that probably runs through some people's minds after seeing said tier lists...

What they fail to realise is the specifics of said character. It's like comparing it to other video games where you need mastery of x amount of characters, and even if character y is broken, if you're bad at it then you're still bad at it no matter how broken it may become.
NaomiMinette
So one of my friends showed me this... (I obviously don't recommend doing this, but it's still kinda interesting to watch.)

MelwesT
Mario forever <3
NaomiMinette
Following up on the previous video:

Serraionga
Gamebreaking at its finest. Even if there are ways to counter this, it needs to be fixed IMO.
Trash Boat
1 of 2 things: 1-They nerf its UP B Special, 2-They input a new rule that penalizes any attempt of stalling the game, like Instant K.O. or something
NaomiMinette
Drewie_old
Figured I'd bump this thread back from the dead for mewtwo upcoming hype !! who's getting him and who isn't?
NaomiMinette
Anyone who registered both games will be getting it (doesn't have a gender), though I'm assuming codes won't be sent out till either next month or May.
Asada Shino
Now we wait for Mew2King to pick him up and be the god of sm4sh
NaomiMinette
Place your bets now. What do you think will be its Final Smash:
  1. Mega Mewtwo X
  2. Mega Mewtwo Y
  3. Something completely unexpected
Justykanna

Blazevoir wrote:

Place your bets now. What do you think will be its Final Smash:
  1. Mega Mewtwo X
  2. Mega Mewtwo Y
  3. Something completely unexpected
I'm more hoping, than better on, for something unexpected. Really don't like the transformation thing. =/
NaomiMinette
The results are in: Mega Mewtwo Y is its Final Smash. Anyway, the Mewtwo DLC codes will be sent out on April 15, but for everyone else, you can purchase it on April 28 for $4.99/€4.99/500¥ for both games, or less for just one.

Lucas is also confirmed to be DLC.
AcceLT_old
wow Mega Mewywo Y I want to see ^_^
Serraionga
Just when I thought I couldn't get more hyped.

My body is ready, my wallet is not.
Azure_Kite
Trash Boat

Azure_Kite wrote:

So, uhhh.

https://cp.nintendo.co.jp/us/
OMG, yeah. Definitely I know who I'm voting for this
NaomiMinette
It's a shame Sakurai's probably laughing at a majority of the choices. Still, you never know. /voted
La Volpe
Azure_Kite
I can't be the only one who voted for Marina from Mischief Makers, can I?

I mean, think about it. You grapple an enemy fighter, and she would enact her pummel move with SHAKE SHAKE.
Topic Starter
Birdy
I'm going to vote for Ridley :^)
Blue Stig
Lemeza.

Whip would be seriously OP.
Bara-
Sceptile
We already have a stage 2 Water and a Stage 2 Fire starter, but no grass one
Nwolf
need Wolf tbh
NaomiMinette
31Gabe
Not to shock anyone, but...
NaomiMinette
Seeing as they're all systems I don't have, neither.
Azure_Kite

31Gabe wrote:

Not to shock anyone, but...
I am thoroughly shocked. To imagine that other platforms would get a copy of the game, much less that their flagship characters aren't on the art. It boggles my mind </s>
NaomiMinette
A fun little video:



Meanwhile, did anyone notice this before?
Trash Boat

31Gabe wrote:

Not to shock anyone, but...
They forgot Steam
NaomiMinette
To those who registered both games, check your email now for the Mewtwo DLC codes. They WILL expire, so use them ASAP!

EDIT: What fans found out about the recent update.
Lanturn
So uh. Possible info on new characters.

Spoilers?
Some data was dumped from the 3DS version.

Roy from Fire Emblem
Ryu from Street Fighter

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comme ... ervations/


Apparently this guy has reputation, but who knows. It was apparently dumped by other people and they confirm the same thing.

So what do you think? I wasn't really expecting Ryu and it'll probably be shown off at E3 or something. Still, I know Street Fighter is a pretty big series, and Nintendo x Capcom has a pretty good relationship. I don't have any quarrels with this choice if it is real.

Anyways, I played a few matches against some Mewtwo on my 3DS, and it's a pretty cool character. I really need to get the Wii U version someday soon.. (when I get a replacement charger for my wii u gamepad.. dumb dogs)
NaomiMinette
Crimmi
NaomiMinette
Crimmi

Blazevoir wrote:

*sigh* I swear Sakurai needs a break: https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/the-act-of-balancing-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-480/
He needs to get a LONG, LONG Vacation after all of this crap is done, or IF it's done. . . :roll:
NaomiMinette
Even after all of the originally-planned features and DLC stuff is out, I kinda doubt he'll ever be "done"...
Crimmi

Blazevoir wrote:

Even after all of the originally-planned features and DLC stuff is out, I kinda doubt he'll ever be "done"...
R.I.P. Sakurai :cry:
Friendan

Blazevoir wrote:

*sigh* I swear Sakurai needs a break: https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/the-act-of-balancing-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-480/
but EventHubs, the most 100% reliable tier list, says that his characters are bad!
Kirby's combo game is amazing, I might play him morr
-kevincela-
Spoilers above, if you don't want to spoil yourself don't open:

Now I'm even more excited for tomorrow orz
Crimmi

-kevincela- wrote:

Spoilers above, if you don't want to spoil yourself don't open:

Now I'm even more excited for tomorrow orz
DA Hy-- oh shit, welp someone is getting fired for sure, Etika and Max are gonna jizz in their pants. Also, that inkling trophy deconfirms them, sorry guys who voted for them.
NaomiMinette
SPOILER
Honestly, I already expected Roy to come back. Ryu was skeptical at first, but I didn't deny the possibility.

Well... not that I really care for either of them. I most likely won't be getting them as well as Lucas (unless we get another free offer just like Mewtwo back then.)
Crimmi

Blazevoir wrote:

SPOILER
Honestly, I already expected Roy to come back. Ryu was skeptical at first, but I didn't deny the possibility.

Well... not that I really care for either of them. I most likely won't be getting them as well as Lucas (unless we get another free offer just like Mewtwo back then.)
Hey, Nintendo does have some sweet bundle deals like they did with Mario Kart 8, so we might get some sweet deals too. Also, did any body notice the Zero and Mega Man exe. Mii fighter costumes? http://kotaku.com/supposed-smash-bros-l ... 1711085846

Also:


HYPED AS FUCK, Nintendo, I love you now more than ever <3
Trash Boat
NO






SHIT







SHERLOCK









FOR REAL?
?
Me: Hey Sakurai, can we have Ryu?
Sakurai: SURE YOU CAN!

In all seriousness, Ryu will be as powerful as Little Mac, designed for ground CQC.
NaomiMinette
Friendan
I sure can't wait for Etika's clickbait video of him screaming for 10 minutes. Ryu is literally Little Mac. Good thing I don't play For Glory.
Crimmi

Friendan wrote:

I sure can't wait for Etika's clickbait video of him screaming for 10 minutes. Ryu is literally Little Mac. Good thing I don't play For Glory.
I was expecting a Metsu Hadoken to be his Final Smash, Shin Shoryuken looks like a big risk taking special, kind of like Little Mac's.
NaomiMinette
For those who are curious about today's leaks and want to see more of it in detail via gameplay footage: http://nintendoeverything.com/footage-o ... nd-stages/
ZekeyHache
Lots of good stuff coming and the wii u I was using got an 160-1400 error, I hope I can get it fixed on time :(
NotEvenDoomMusic

Friendan wrote:

I sure can't wait for Etika's clickbait video of him screaming for 10 minutes. Ryu is literally Little Mac. Good thing I don't play For Glory.
Black Guile.

Ryu seems a little bit more technical and thus more useful than Little Mac. (and ultimately casuals are going to spam his specials at the most inapropriate times in FG)
Given that you can additionaly input the original directional commands to perform a stronger version of those specials - it'll add another layer of depth in his arsenal.
At least you can controll how far you can travel with his side-b and it locks at edges when using the ground version, so it's pretty foolproof.

He also can cancel out his normals into specials which would open up more options for Ryu to combat certain strategies + Focus Attack (Dash Cancel) is a thing.

Crimmi wrote:

I was expecting a Metsu Hadoken to be his Final Smash, Shin Shoryuken looks like a big risk taking special, kind of like Little Mac's.
Shinku Hadoken is probably good for crowd control and racking up damage fast to kill them with the many kill moves that he has, while Shin Shoryuken literaly is Little Macs K.O Punch: Doesn't kill at 0% but does so extremely early - might kill at 0% at stages with low ceilings like Halberd.

Also it looks like Ryu might have limited options offstage and a difficult time dealing with gimps + his arials only look "okay" at best.
Certainly miles better than Little Macs, but not good enough to rely on them.

Anyways, it's super strange to see Ryu in a Super Smash Bros. game but i'm hyped AF to bring fighting streets to FG.

On another note, Nintendo is giving people who have uploaded those leaked videos a copyright strike, even the linked videos here have been removed - here's a mirror but i highly doubt it'll last another 24h




It must suck very hard to be Sakurai, if all your hard work and effort you've funneled into something to create an epic reveal is ruined by one simple person who either happens to be working at the same team (worse; someone who've worked directely under Sakurais hands) but broke NDA or someone who just knows computers and stuff.
Eitherway, i feel like it ruins the fun of the job he has - when the ability of ripping the curtains on something people have been looking forward to is taken away from you.
It sucks all the joy of continuing to even make announcements anymore in my opinion.

Man, thinking about this just makes me feel even worse for Sakurai.

On a completely different note:
OzzyOzrock
So.

Ryu, Roy, and Lucas are out.

Lovely.
NaomiMinette
Everything that's been previously leaked is available as DLC TODAY.

RIP eShop
Crimmi

Blazevoir wrote:

Everything that's been previously leaked is available as DLC TODAY.

RIP eShop
Getting Ryu for sure~!
NotEvenDoomMusic

Blazevoir wrote:

Everything that's been previously leaked is available as DLC TODAY.

Blazevoir wrote:

TODAY
NINTENDO DIDN'T EVEN GAVE ME TIME TO PREPARE TO GIVE THEM MY MONEY?????

i thought they would release them bit by bit so that i could be be mentaly prepared for them but damn okay, it's going to be that way i guess??
Sudden influx of new characters in For Glory, it's going to be beautiful testing out the new matchups.
NaomiMinette
After the leaks happened, I kinda doubt they'd release things bit by bit... lol.

Also, I need to clarify something: Tourney Mode and replay uploads via YouTube (old and current, including the incompatible ones) are coming later.

Finally, this happened. (P.S. The Miiverse Stage can't be played online.)
Friendan
NaomiMinette

Friendan wrote:

Pretty much.
NotEvenDoomMusic

Friendan wrote:

Funny,
met 5 Ryus in that short span of time (and a dozen other miscelanous character - surpsingly no Roy yet????), 3 fought with my Jigglypuff and 2 with Ganon.
JV3'd 1 of them with Ganon using the ultimate technique of side-b tech chasing (also known as the casual saltmaker) and lost 1 stock by accident with Jiggly because i underrestimated the Focus Attack special.

Can totally confirm, Ryu seems to be hard to play and gimped easy as hell if you just put them on edge. (mentally and literally)

I'm actually curious, anyone has met any Roys yet?
NaomiMinette
You mean... has anyone else been able to update yet? ._.
OzzyOzrock
I've seen 2 Lucases, 4 Roys and 4 Ryus
Trash Boat
I saw the trailer and I will say one thing...


Japanese voice audio or riot.
NaomiMinette
Man... Reggie sucks so much on SSB4 /NintendoWorldChampionships2015
Friendan
I saw that, literally worse than For Glory.

Trash Boat wrote:

Japanese voice audio or riot.
Roy does, Ryu doesn't.

Ryu can't dash dance or it's just that you have to move the control stick super fast
NaomiMinette
Friendan
I'm just praying they eventually make Peachy's turnips pull out faster. It's too easy to get punished for it.
NaomiMinette
Relevant necro.

So... the final Direct happened
Even though I've never played Bayonetta before, I wouldn't mind buying her DLC. (She's the ballot winner, btw.)
Mao
I am actually surprised that they did a Geno costume and I really like that o:
NaomiMinette
The final DLC is out.

Can't wait to try Bayonetta~
Pawsu
A-another game I want.
NaomiMinette


Totally not broken. Nope. (WTF?!?!)
Jiroski_old
This https://vine.co/v/i10jUaKTlXV

(Might wanna lower the volume a bit. )
Bombchu Link

Blazevoir wrote:



Totally not broken. Nope. (WTF?!?!)

There is something called DI you know, every know bayonetta zero to death so far requires at least 3 50/50 reads and poor DI, the likeliness of it actually happening in tournament play is next to none, so you can breathe easy.

She does however get about 45% off these combos if executed correctly and a 50/50 to extend it; and everyone's going to take the 50% that won't let them go off the top and die so yeah she is deadly but not as deadly.

You just have to treat Beyo like brawl ice climbers; never approach. Her only approach is down B and you can just shield and grab/punish however you like.

Also treat her Down air like Ike's Neutral air; show a good ammount of respect toward it and you can get quick punishes or if you're feeling confident with the timing perfect pivot (perfect) shield to grab/punish.
Justykanna
There anyone having issues staying connected to the network? I tried to play with a friend over Wifi and I kept kicking booted off the network five minutes into two different games. Sitting right beside the modem too. =( Shame because it was lag free until I get disconnected.
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