phate45 wrote:

[General]

1. Welcome to the world of osu mapping. I second Axarious' opinion, you should definitely hang out in #modhelp Yay!
2. You may want to include a limited skin.ini to change the combo colors around a bit, given the yellow background the map might be confusing for people with default skin, as it has yellow as one of the four combo colors. I'll change the combo color to orange. Hopefully it'll stand out more now. Though I don't believe beatmaps have skin.inis?

[Beginner]

1. 00:12:555 (2) - I feel like the slider ends a bit early, ending it at 0:13:926 would be better (same situation as 00:18:041 (1)-).
2. 00:15:298 (3) and 00:20:784 (2) - ^ same stuff, should end at 00:16:669 and 00:22:155 respectively. <^These sliders are all meant to go with the notes in the music that are very fast, when I make them a tick longer they feel too... long, because then they end after those faster parts. (I hope that poorly worded explanation makes some form of sense.)
3. 00:23:526 (1,2) - Compared to 00:29:012 (3,4) they end just a tick too early, consider ending them at 00:24:898 and 00:27:641 respectively. I see, that makes sense. Ok~
4. 00:56:441 (2) - Consider ending it at 00:57:812. I considered it but decided against it because then it would end on the beginning of the next word in the vocal which at this part I don't think works very well.
5. 01:01:926 (1) - ^ same stuff | 01:03:298. ^ I decided against this for the same reason
6. 01:29:355 (1,2,3,4) - All of those feel ended a tick too early, then 01:40:326 (1) comes and ends perfectly. Consider lenghtening them all by a tick.
7. 01:55:412 (4) and 02:09:126 (4) - ^ same stuff. As I said above, I considered it and tried it out but I don't really think it works.

[Easy]

1. 01:59:526 (4) - Consider ending this one at 02:00:555-, maybe add one more bend and move 02:00:898 (5,6) around a bit. That's a really pretty curve you've got there. Ok, I've extended the slider since it works quite well and it's not harder than the rest of the easy. Though I didn't use the same shape- I used one similar that wouldn't require moving 02:00:898 (5,6) (6 being blanketed by 02:02:269 (1) and all.)
   
   Example

   

[Normal]

1. 01:01:241 (7) - Either include a (8) or make the 7 a slider like 00:59:184 (4,5,6)-, feels like a wrong pause compared to the song. You're right, I've made it a slider now.
2. 01:34:841 (1,2,3) and 01:36:212 (1,2) are the same music pattern, but the notes do not reflect it. There should be one between the (1,2). It does sound better. Added~
3. 01:49:584 (4) - Might be 2x repeated to reflect the singing not pausing. I replaced this note with one like 01:38:955 (3) rotated and made that repeat 2x. The old slider looked strange when repeated that many times.

[Hard]

• 
  A mod? On my hard?! ;v;!!! Thank you for attempting this task!

1. 00:03:641 (7) - Should be a slider, it's the same pattern as the previous sliders music-wise. Mmmm, alright! How fancy!
2. 00:04:669 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This whole section feels weird, try replacing it with small sliders with repeat (to differ from the previous combo). This is what happens when I carelessly switch which part of the music I'm following, eh..
3. 00:23:526 (1,2,3) - I would move the 2 out and rotate the 3 by 30 degrees clockwise to make it look better (shown below). So much better. Alright! Done.
   
   Example

   
4. 00:25:412 (5,6,7) - Move it around a bit, give especially the 5 proper spacing. I also modified 7 a bit to end closer to the next note. Okay! ovo/
   
   Example

   
5. 00:33:812 (6,7) - According to the vocal, a slider here would feel better than plain jump. Does it really count as a jump even though it's at the same distance spacing as the rest of the song? Okay, I added a short repeat slider in their place.
6. 01:29:355 (1,2) and 01:30:726 (1,2,3) are the same vocal pattern, but the notes do not reflect that. The latter (1,2) should also be a slider This makes sense, okay, added~
7. 01:45:126 (6,7) - Moving 7 to 01:45:384 is in accord with the vocal here. I tried something else because I wouldn't want that to be the lone blue-tick note in the entire song.
8. 01:45:812 (1,2,3,4,5) - Making this a tick shorter with repeat and removing 2 would reflect the vocals better. Maybe reposition (the new) 2,3,4 as shown in the example to connect to the next pattern better. ^ This hard difficulty currently has nothing on the blue ticks. Unless I somehow work in some others, I think this idea would sound out of place. Unless the song absolutely demands it I don't want to do that. I will try to think up another way to fix this pattern up some more, but for now I'd like it to stay symmetrical to 01:40:326 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) if possible.
   
   Example

   
9. 01:47:184 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ same thing. See above.
10. 01:56:784 (1,2) - It does not feel right compared to the vocal, try something like in the screenshot below. Thank you I was having a lot of trouble with this part.
    
    Example

    
11. Overall, you should play (and then play around in the editor) more hard diffs at and above the 3.6-3.7 star mark to improve your own hard diff. Notice mainly patterns and note placement, yours feel a little rough at places (looking especially at the 00:04:669 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) section). Well- I'll try my best. Though I don't think I can play much more of 3.6-3.7 stars since that's the lower region of difficulties I usually play at, and when I look at beatmaps I find good in the editor I have a hard time figuring out why they seem good. Maybe an epiphany will come eventually. Until then I'll keep practicing at playing and mapping.

Alex Li wrote:

Hmm...
from paper modding team Hi

General

there are many NC problems in every diffs. Try to NC every down beat so it feats the music better I've gone through and reviewed the NCs I have to the best of my ability in order to make them more consistent, but I did not change it to be an NC every down beat because then for example beginner would rarely have a combo lasting more than one note..
Also many DS problems in B E N diffs,make sure u use the same ds all the time in easy normal diffs. use aimod and fix it The DS problems that AiMod is still reporting are distance snapped now. I don't know why it's been doing that... I did go through and fix the ones that actually needed it though. Unless there are some it doesn't always report? Sometimes I open it to a slew of DS errors but when I close it to go fix them then reopen it, they're gone...

Beginner

1. 00:18:041 (1) - Why u did the rhythm different from the slider you did like 00:12:555 (2,3) - , if you got a rhythm, keep doing it unless the rhythm changed Ok
2. 00:29:012 (3) - ^, if you want do reverse slider here,then you have to change the sliders from 00:23:526 - 00:33:126 all to reverse sliders Ok I've made 00:29:012 (3) a slider like the others.
3. 00:56:441 (2,3) - fix overlap Fixed.
4. 01:12:898 - missing a beat at downbeat is serious and make the music sh*t Imma get rid of 01:13:584 (1) so that the NC is 01:14:269 (1) - a downbeat.. because putting a note where you suggest would be too fast for Beginner's intended difficulty
5. 02:02:269 - ^ I think it would be too fast for Beginner's intended difficulty..
   I think the pattern is pretty well on this but you need to know more about how to make the rhythm sounds right I'll do my best~

Easy

1. 00:29:012 (3) - looks weird, not recommended Ok I've changed it to a hopefully more appealing slider.
   Why u did 2 easies? Beginner is meant to be Easier Than Easy, for, well, beginners.

Normal

1. Maybe sv1.4 is too fast for a 175 normal? I think it probably fits as is.
2. 00:29:012 (3) - idk if that is rank able Now it is beautiful.
3. 00:16:669 (3) - for a normal diff, i would recommend 1 reverse and a circle Alright
4. 00:19:412 (3) - ^ ^
5. 00:20:784 (1,2) - make 1 and 2 same maybe a great choice Ok I made them the same now.
6. 00:34:498 (6) - rank able in normal? idk Hmm.. I think I'll change it.

Hard

1. 00:01:584 - 00:07:069 - I will use soft in this part because it doesn't really have a drum in this part of the music Ah I see what you mean. Okay, I've changed it.
2. 00:11:355 (1) - wrong rhythm with this spinnerI'm sorry I'm not really sure what you mean by that- EDIT: Thank you for explaining in-game. Fixed now >v<
3. 00:34:326 (7) - thy this? Tried it, didn't like the how the slider shape would work at that time. So I did add a new hitcircle at 00:34:326 (7) and did move then change the slider, but in a different way.
   
4. 00:46:155 (3) - ctrl g better flow I didn't put this in because it would result in being a slider that is a jump to get to and a jump to get to the next note that wouldn't go with the music. I'll keep it in consideration though. Maybe later I'll rework the pattern to get rid of the jumps that would happen.
5. 00:51:641 (3) - im pretty sure this is unrankable now It's been suggested and kicked down a few times for it to be unrankable, but wiggle sliders aren't against the law yet I don't think. I'll still change these though since they don't realllly fit the music well enough.
6. 01:15:641 (1) - ^ ^

Well at least its better than my first map Miles better than my first map too. These are my 20th-24th beatmaps. I count each difficulty as a seperate map since this is my first time having patience to finish more than one. My first beatmaps are horrors. Horrors!
But you will need a lot of help and improvement if you want to rank this. I'll keep doing my best to find help thank you for yours
You are free to pm me in game if you have any question about my mod and if you want me to help Really? Thank you very much!
Gl

Neil Leo wrote:

From NLMQ
You may reject some if you think it fits the music
[Beginner]
02:00:898 (3) - Space out slider head and tail (it must not overlap) Ok fixed~
[Easy]
00:22:155 (1) - Slider head and tail overlap Same as the one in beginner then. Fixed~
00:50:955 (6) - NC Done
00:53:698 (1) - Not NC (if applied upper) This and upper are now applied.
01:32:098 (1) - NC I'll guess that I fixed this and
01:34:841 (4) - Not NC (if applied upper) This recently before you posted the mod because I already fixed these two. Thank you though~
01:55:412 (1) - Not NC? Fixed
02:09:812 (1) - Not NC I think I'll leave this one as a NC since it's a the start of the next part in the lyrics.
02:11:184 (1,1) - ^ (if applied upper) Fixed~
[Normal]
00:22:155 (1) - NC It is now.
00:22:155 (1) - Slider head and tail overlap Fixed~
01:06:041 (3) - ^ Fixed this now as well~
01:09:126 (3) - Pattern from the start not clearly visible? ??? I'm not really sure what you mean here.
00:46:841 (4) - ^??? But I understand what you mean for that statement here. So, oh whoops yeah fixed.

Don't use much ovelaps on easier diffs, as beginners may be confused. It wasn't intentional, thank you for pointing them out!
GL on map! Thanks!

Yuthuil wrote:

From my Q

Beginner:

woah AR only makes it harder to read - try ar 0.5 or 1 Ok 0.5 then~

00:12:555 (2,3) - overlap is unsightly Oops fixed
00:18:041 (1) - this is not really begginer material since the veers all catch you off guard and beginners can slider break on this. Fixed with 00:12:555 (2,3) and made it a simple curve. Thank you for mentioning that Beginners can slider break on this I'll keep it in mind for the future.
00:15:298 (3,1) - again, overlap is unsightly Fixed when fixing 00:12:555 (2,3)
01:37:584 (4) - try and make this symmetrical at the top Tried improving it again~
01:40:326 (1,2) - overlapped Fixed~

I think you need to fit a spinner somewhere. I feel that way too but there really isn't anywhere I think a spinner would fit in this difficulty and I don't want to have a spinner just for the sake of having a spinner

Easy:

The wrath of aimod

but 90% of this is already perfectly snapped I don't understand D: I fixed a few but.. the rest are snapped...?

00:19:412 (1) - If you curve it too much it feels cramped Loosened/fixed/less curver now.
00:20:784 (2) - bad placement, move to x220 y300 With the way I fixed ^ I didn't need to do this but thank you~
00:29:012 (3) - NC Done
00:29:012 (3,4) - bad flow, fix by moving 4 down slightly Moved down slightly~
00:34:498 I honestly don't think this break is good. As in when it begins or..
00:51:641 (2) - There's no need to make this slider so long Hmm.. fixed
01:00:555 (5,1) - Overlap is ugly and distance snap these Snapped and fixed~
01:07:412 SV changes can't be used in Easy Oops fixed Goodbye 01:58:155 (3,4)
01:30:726 (2,3) - move to the left slightly, it destroys flow as it is Ok
01:33:469 (2,4) - bad overlap Fixed
01:43:069 (3,1) - ^ Fixed I think probably
01:48:555 (3,4) - blanket properly Properly? I hope I got it right by this fix I've done.

Normal:

00:53:012 (5) - end this the tick before Okie dokie
00:55:069 (3) - ^ Mmm I don't think that sounds right
00:59:184 (1) - ctrl + h Ooh~ Aah~ pretty~ Okay o:
01:36:212 (1) - this is too hard to read for normal This one accidentally survived my weird vibration slider removal in normal. Thank you, fixed.
01:49:584 (4,1) - fix overlap Fixed~

Hard:

AR 7.5 "Hold shift for precise difficulty adjustment" - done!

00:04:498 to skip a beat is weird after you've been emphasizing these lots I think it would be awkward to place a hitcircle here or replace the 00:03:984 (8) slider which is made to go with the "beep" sound with sliders like the previous 7, so I didn't make this change.
00:07:755 (2,3) - these halt flow, dont stack unless necessary Okay fixed~
00:52:498 (3,4) - weird overlap I fixed it I think ye
00:53:698 (1) - imo this should be 1/1 slider After much thought, I've applied this now..
01:15:641 (1) - a bit like burai slider So tight loops can classify as kind of like burai sliders.. I'll keep that in mind. Fixed~
02:00:212 (4) - ctrl + g Hmm that'd change the flow... for the better! Ok, done.
02:10:498 (1,3) - make three a clone of one Instead I'll make one a clone of 3~
02:12:555 (3) - ctrl + g Mmm... I dislike how this would make a cramped back and forth motion for what I think should be a relatively smooth continuous movement, so I didn't change this.

Chocox wrote:

From my modding queue

Get Ready

[General]
AI-mod Calling for attention for spacing issues for Easy and Normal , but I guess it should be fine Hopefully
I think if have video , disable widescreen support and letterbox during breaks Ok

[Normal]
00:05:012 (2,3) - I don't know what you are hitsounding this to (I suggest remove) Fixed~
00:06:384 (5,6) - This clap at 5 and finish at 6 is good , you can do the same to 00:03:641 (4) because they sound the same Ah I see what you're saying alright done~
00:08:441 (3) - Why not Clap at the end? Since you already did it at 00:06:384 (5) I must have missed that one. Fixed~
00:31:069 (4) - I think this slider should change to something like this 00:26:955 (3) I agree with you. Fixed~
00:55:069 (3) - This slider don't suit , try this http://puu.sh/dy2cP/80fe64ec6a.png Done, and may I say that is a really pretty skin you've got there.
01:00:555 (3,4) - These 2 are not nice together , try this http://puu.sh/dy2rz/86b9848134.png As this is very nice looking and shiny and better, Done~
01:29:355 (1) - Is this suppose to end at head of 01:31:069 (2) < read below v
02:00:898 (4) - Is this suppose to start at head of 02:02:269 (1) I didn't stack like you suggested but tried something else instead.

[Hard]
This needs to be worked on harder , I personally don't enjoy playing this but I think it's your mapping style so I think it's ok , if want ranked this need to improve a lot I'll continue doing my best to make it a well-built enjoyable map. I don't really think that even with all I've mapped that I have an actual "style."
00:59:184 (1) - This start on head of 00:57:812 (1) Woah that's where it originally was I must have moved it by mistake and note realized it fixed than you~
01:09:298 (4) - This slider start too early , consider shortening it and start at 01:09:469 Done with a new hitcircle where it used to start so there isn't a weird pause.
01:53:184 (2) - This is same as the earlier slider , I find it really weird to play ^

EDIT: Pardon my English , I mean stack ... not start at that timing == It's alright it was very helpful~

Okoratu wrote:

Edit: yes2

00:56 Okoratu: yo
00:56 Okoratu: whenever you got time to talk about that map of yours ~
00:57 dorothy3242: O:
00:57 Okoratu: kaguya rejected it
00:58 Okoratu: but i like the song
00:58 Okoratu: so i will say some general things about why he most likely rejected it
00:58 dorothy3242: Okay O:
01:01 dorothy3242: thank you very much;
01:01 Okoratu: np song again
01:01 Okoratu: aa
01:01 *dorothy3242 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/549708 YuugouP - YELLOW TRICK [Hard]]
01:02 Okoratu: first of all there are some uhh
01:02 Okoratu: design issues
01:03 dorothy3242: for example uhh--;;?
01:04 Okoratu: like uhm
01:04 Okoratu: 00:01:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
01:04 Okoratu: looks like you just made round sliders for that rhythm
01:04 Okoratu: and that's fine and stuff
01:04 Okoratu: but then the same thing repeats and you only do 00:04:669 (1,2,3,4) -
01:05 Okoratu: you could easily vary that rhythm as well as that design to make it more interesting
01:05 Okoratu: right now this whole part is just slider slider slider
01:05 *dorothy3242 takes out notebook
01:06 Okoratu: 00:06:726 (4) - did you forget a sliderwhistle btw
01:06 Okoratu: ah look 00:07:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - there we got some variation
01:06 dorothy3242: ah yep I forgot that slider whistle;
01:06 Okoratu: but isn't that whole part just a buildup to the whole thing actually starting
01:07 dorothy3242: a build up yes it's supposed to be
01:07 Okoratu: so
01:07 Okoratu: let's see what you have here
01:07 Okoratu: 00:01:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
01:07 Okoratu: sliders only
01:07 Okoratu: which can be nice for a first step of a build up
01:07 Okoratu: 00:04:669 (1,2,3,4) - 4 slower sliders for a reason i don't understand
01:08 Okoratu: 00:07:755 (2,3,4,5,6) - suddenly lots of circles
01:08 Okoratu: this could be considered not that much a buildup
01:08 Okoratu: but more like
01:08 Okoratu: random patterns
01:08 Okoratu: if you want it to build up you should start slow
01:08 Okoratu: and then add increasingly more circles
01:08 Okoratu: because that's what a buildup is
01:09 Okoratu: from easy~hard
01:09 dorothy3242: so I should try to ease in from sliders to circles better?
01:09 dorothy3242: and both?
01:09 Okoratu: if you want to portray a buildup
01:10 Okoratu: you should go from less objects or easier patterns
01:10 Okoratu: to more objects and harder patterns
01:10 Okoratu: because that's how buildups work
01:10 Okoratu: they get increasingly intensive, right?
01:10 dorothy3242: that's how they are supposed to work, right.
01:11 Okoratu: secondly after this spinner 00:11:184 (1) - you leave out a lot of things
01:11 Okoratu: i wondered why as i was playing it
01:11 Okoratu: like you could have placed objects at like starting in 00:12:898 -
01:11 dorothy3242: I wasn't sure how long to leave after a spinner before having objects in a hard;;
01:11 Okoratu: it's like 1 white tick
01:12 dorothy3242: oh ok o:
01:13 dorothy3242: I'll be sure to add something in there then now that I know that
01:13 Okoratu: 00:15:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i don't understand the hitsounds
01:13 Okoratu: for instance
01:13 Okoratu: there are things that would call for some kind of finish on 2 and 4
01:14 Okoratu: and claps on 1 and 3
01:14 Okoratu: but you do something i don't really understand
01:15 Okoratu: 00:14:612 (1) - 00:17:355 (1) - i would consider removing these combos because 00:19:412 (1,2,3,4,5) - maps the same sounds in one combo and honestly 3 object combos are short
01:16 dorothy3242: I had meant for it to go none-clap-finish in attempts to hitsound competently;
01:16 Okoratu: i do understand your reasoning behind them
01:16 Okoratu: but if you break the system in only some places that's kinda bad for how consistent your map is
01:16 Okoratu: in the end
01:17 Okoratu: 00:22:155 (1) - i don't really understand what that's supposed to be rhythmically
01:17 dorothy3242: oh I think I see
01:17 Okoratu: like there's no obvious held down sound
01:18 dorothy3242: I'm not really good at describing sounds but at that part there is a downward uhm
01:18 Okoratu: but more something like [http://puu.sh/dBGMY/c9027ad610.jpg this rhythm]
01:18 dorothy3242: a downward string of notes in pitch?
01:18 Okoratu: how obvious is it
01:18 Okoratu: that downward string of notes pitch and how complex is it
01:18 Okoratu: like would you notice that when first listening
01:19 Okoratu: because what i just drew is the most obvious rhythm i could find for that thing
01:19 dorothy3242: I had perceived it to be the main sound at that part
01:20 Okoratu: so
01:20 Okoratu: does mine make no sense to you
01:20 Okoratu: or does it make sense
01:20 Okoratu: then evaluate which makes more sense
01:20 Okoratu: yours or the thing someone suggests
01:21 Okoratu: if mine doesn't make sense, that's fine
01:22 Okoratu: is what i'm saying
01:22 dorothy3242: I'm not really sure because I think I may be too used to hearing the downward notes in pitch
01:22 Okoratu: i just want to make sure the ones i give suggestions are sure about what they mapped and that it's the best they could make it
01:22 dorothy3242: and then I get distracted by it
01:22 Okoratu: 00:25:241 - do you ignore the finish sound because vocals ?
01:23 Okoratu: because you mapped it on a sliderend just after in 00:27:469 (4,5) -
01:24 dorothy3242: aha I thought I was following just the vocals both times but I hear(see?) what you mean
01:24 Okoratu: 00:25:755 (7) - 00:31:241 (9,10) - i understand these hitsounds, but why do you do it differently in 00:28:155 (6,7) -
01:25 dorothy3242: because I need to figure out a better way to keep track of my own hitsound patterns >_<
01:25 Okoratu: 00:24:726 (4) - also that slider has some more potential as in it could look [http://puu.sh/dBHi9/78f9f4c59f.jpg smoother]
01:26 Okoratu: 00:26:269 (1) - same goes for this one, rough edges that look random might look bad for your design
01:26 Okoratu: as in unpolished
01:26 dorothy3242: oh I see those inner corners look a bit unrounded-like ah o:
01:27 Okoratu: so you map vocals right
01:27 dorothy3242: so I should try and go through again too look for slightly edgy sliders again;
01:28 Okoratu: (i would have never thought i'd say that but) why is 00:30:384 (6) - on the white tick
01:28 Okoratu: when the held down vocal starts in
01:28 Okoratu: 00:30:212 (5) -
01:28 dorothy3242: you never thought you'd say that? xD
01:28 Okoratu: yes
01:28 Okoratu: because i tend to map instruments
01:28 Okoratu: over vocals
01:29 Okoratu: that's why i would have never gotten the idea to end up suggestion
01:29 Okoratu: suggesting
01:29 Okoratu: that.
01:29 Okoratu: but you hear what i mean
01:29 Okoratu: right
01:29 Okoratu: the thing you can click is a circle
01:29 Okoratu: the vocal is held down for 1/2 t hough
01:30 dorothy3242: I do hear what you mean that was a mistake of mine it was meant to follow the vocal and I thought it did but it doesn't
01:30 Okoratu: this happens frequently throughout this i think
01:30 Okoratu: or let's say
01:30 Okoratu: there are objects
01:30 Okoratu: but they don't do what you intended them to do
01:30 Okoratu: sometimes
01:30 dorothy3242: sometimes
01:31 Okoratu: they do what you want them to most times
01:31 dorothy3242: and when listened to they can sound alright but they're a little mixed up?
01:31 Okoratu: 00:32:441 (3) - e.g. this one
01:31 Okoratu: it has 2 vocals in it
01:31 Okoratu: and ignores 00:32:955
01:31 Okoratu: 00:32:955 -
01:32 Okoratu: this one also does it all right then 00:33:126 (4) -
01:33 dorothy3242: 00:33:126 (4) - ?
01:33 Okoratu: it has just one held down vocal
01:33 Okoratu: which is correct
01:33 Okoratu: the other slider does contain two vocals
01:34 Okoratu: the other slider being 00:32:441 (3) -
01:35 dorothy3242: so I should try and do something else with (3)?
01:35 Okoratu: probably
01:35 Okoratu: if you do that
01:35 Okoratu: you could try to avoid the overlap of it and 00:32:441 (3,4) -
01:36 Okoratu: [http://puu.sh/dBHZj/f46aecd01f.jpg like its borders overlapping eehhh]
01:37 Okoratu: 00:34:498 (8) - also you went for 2 bar NCs here so this one should have one lol
01:38 dorothy3242: uhm this will sound like a really dumb question but how do I keep track of the number of bars? is it every four white ticks?
01:38 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/dBI8k/8fc078dcef.jpg
01:38 Okoratu: each big white is one bar
01:38 Okoratu: you seem to have put a new combo each 2 bars
01:39 Okoratu: 00:31:755 (1) - nc was here, bar 1 00:33:126 (4) - bar 3 00:34:498 (8) - bar 3
01:39 dorothy3242: OH ok I see I didn't know that I was just trying to put new combos where it sounded like one
01:39 Okoratu: next problem i have is 00:46:669 (4) -
01:40 dorothy3242: I guess I should've read up some more about the difference between white ticks and big white ticks
01:40 Okoratu: and that the vocal which is held down in 00:47:012 - is on its end
01:40 dorothy3242: on its end?
01:41 dorothy3242: oh you mean the bar stars in the middle of the note..?
01:41 dorothy3242: or?
01:41 Okoratu: the things you are mapping
01:41 Okoratu: are the red ticks
01:41 Okoratu: right
01:41 Okoratu: because they sing on the red ones
01:41 Okoratu: 00:46:669 - there is a held down vocal
01:41 Okoratu: which is cool because it is on an object which you have to press a key
01:41 Okoratu: and hold it
01:42 Okoratu: 00:47:012 - there also is a vocal which is held down
01:42 Okoratu: but there is the end of the first object and all you need to do to play that one is to release one key
01:43 Okoratu: [http://puu.sh/dBIrr/271da41971.jpg so 2 shorter sliders would fit that better imo]
01:44 dorothy3242: ah I see that makes sense (I get the feeling I say that too much but it really does;;)
01:44 Okoratu: 00:47:526 (7) - this one looks a bit curled up in itself [http://puu.sh/dBIwb/d48f3dfebe.jpg less dent could look better]
01:45 Okoratu: on 00:52:498 (3) - the held down vocal for once starts on the white tick [http://puu.sh/dBIAS/22cd32dfb6.jpg so that would follow that vocal better]
01:45 Okoratu: you could see why i said in the beginning that they don't do what you want them to do sometimes
01:46 dorothy3242: yes I definitely can
01:49 Okoratu: 01:06:041 (4) - this one yes this one does have the vocal on 01:06:384 - and a longer held down one in 01:06:726 - [http://puu.sh/dBIRA/e5089f2309.jpg so something like that could follow that better]
01:50 Okoratu: basically before i end up just telling you which ones follow vocals not as you might have intended you could do that yourself, all you really need to do is looking for vocals which are held down and either in sliders or on sliderends
01:50 Okoratu: and then ask yourself "does it make sense to skip that one or do i map it"
01:51 Okoratu: there you should take into consideration how much impact the vocal has for you personally or how you perceive it
01:52 dorothy3242: I will do my best to do that with your really helpful advice because whenever I tried to look for problems in it I couldn't figure out exactly how I'd be messing up
01:52 dorothy3242: and I'll especially pay even closer attention as I go through it again to fix these things
01:53 dorothy3242: really thank you so much for the help I hope that I'll be able to fix it up properly and not let your advice go to waste;;
01:53 dorothy3242: really really really thank you C':
01:53 Okoratu: just some stylistic things: 01:12:212 (1) - i would avoid slidershapes like that because it just looks like you didn't know where to go with the last anchor [http://puu.sh/dBJ9e/c6f613fa7a.jpg so something like less bending would be cool]
01:54 dorothy3242: super cool
01:55 Okoratu: 01:32:784 (3,1) - tiny overlaps like this look a bit unnecessary and also a bit messy - at least to me, since it isn't hard to avoid them it would make this thing more polished to just go ahead and avoid them
01:56 dorothy3242: Okay I'll try to power up my observation skills to avoid them better o:
01:56 Okoratu: do you know what would help
01:56 Okoratu: since most maps nowadays are really clean and stuff
01:57 Okoratu: just looking at things and sliders you noticed to be really clean or good looking and creative
01:57 dorothy3242: ?
01:57 Okoratu: while playing them
01:57 Okoratu: aka play the map
01:57 Okoratu: and then go into edit to see how they are made up
01:57 dorothy3242: okay I'll try to do that o:
01:57 dorothy3242: I've been looking at a lot of maps to see how they were made up but I wasn't really sure what I should be looking for before ahaha;
01:58 Okoratu: [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/208596 this is inverness explaining how to make things look neat and what techniques there are]
01:58 Okoratu: it's a guide with lots of pictures
01:58 Okoratu: there you get some technical terms for these things and also a lot of explanation
01:58 Okoratu: how to make them
01:58 Okoratu: what's commonly wrong with them when they are used in beatmaps or how they can be "better"
01:59 Okoratu: some of this is highly subjective so it's up to you to believe what he says and how much you wanna follow that
01:59 dorothy3242: oh that's a really helpful link thank you! I knew about the guide to delicious sliders but not this one
02:00 Okoratu: [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/239778/ also jenny wrote something very cool about hitobjects, hitsounding and patterns]
02:00 Okoratu: might want to read that as well
02:00 dorothy3242: I'll be sure to!
02:00 Okoratu: both are subjective but they also contain lots of advice
02:01 dorothy3242: a wealth of advice
02:01 Okoratu: this ended up being a bit more than just general things lol
02:01 Okoratu: also
02:02 Okoratu: do you change hitsound thing only for the claps in 00:25:755 (7) -
02:02 Okoratu: there's an easier way to do that without green lines
02:02 Okoratu: which takes like 2 % of the time needed
02:02 dorothy3242: there is?! :O
02:03 dorothy3242: :O
02:03 Okoratu: just click its head like this or something depending on what you want to hitsound http://puu.sh/dBJLg/753f103296.jpg
02:03 Okoratu: and on the left you will see http://puu.sh/dBJMm/cc90d222d3.jpg
02:03 Okoratu: Sampleset is the sampleset this thing uses for its hitnormal
02:03 Okoratu: Additions is the sampleset which is added to it
02:03 Okoratu: so you could just set that to Soft
02:03 Okoratu: and put the 2 claps on it
02:03 dorothy3242: so that's what that is for woah I had no idea O:
02:03 Okoratu: and are done
02:04 dorothy3242: that is
02:04 dorothy3242: woah
02:04 dorothy3242: woah that is that is so much easier
02:04 Okoratu: and you cannot confuse yourself with a lot of green lines
02:04 Okoratu:
02:04 dorothy3242:
02:05 Okoratu: should i post the log in the end ?
02:05 dorothy3242: I think that would be helpful because I'll be honest and say that I edit a bit too slowly to keep up with the suggestions and links xD''
02:05 dorothy3242: I was planning to open the notepad log and go through to the time signatures manually ehehe;
02:06 Okoratu: sure that way you could just treat this as a mod
02:06 dorothy3242: since it ended up being more than just a bit of general advice
02:06 dorothy3242: (which I still hope I'll be able to use properly)
02:07 Okoratu: if you got questions of any kind
02:07 Okoratu: be it playability or
02:07 Okoratu: general advice
02:07 Okoratu: you could just ask
02:07 Okoratu: i like this song
02:08 Okoratu: uhm
02:08 Okoratu: ok
02:08 Okoratu: i looked at the normal for 2 seconds now and already have something big to say
02:08 Okoratu: lol
02:08 Okoratu: [http://puu.sh/dBK5h/5fb5db5213.png the slider velocity here is the same as in hard]
02:08 Okoratu: which makes for very fast sliders at lower approachrate
02:09 Okoratu: and also super big base spacing
02:09 Okoratu: which are 2 things you wanna avoid here
02:10 dorothy3242: and so I should probably lower it to something like.. 1.0?
02:10 dorothy3242: or
02:10 Okoratu: 1.1 or something
02:10 Okoratu: the Easy is 0.8x
02:10 Okoratu: the Normal 1.4x
02:10 Okoratu: the Hard 1.4x
02:10 Okoratu:
02:10 dorothy3242: >_<
02:10 Okoratu: 1.1 would be the average
02:11 Okoratu: so that would make that even
02:11 Okoratu:
02:11 dorothy3242:
02:11 dorothy3242: It'll take 9 years but I'll go through and fix that then
02:11 Okoratu: it's 175 objects
02:11 Okoratu: that cannot take so long
02:12 dorothy3242: hopefully not two weekends
02:13 dorothy3242: xD

1. 00:22:155 (1) - does this really need to be a NC?
2. 00:53:698 (4,5) - blanket better
3. 01:18:384 - add note here?
4. 01:36:898 - add note/slider here

1. 00:01:584 (1) - move to ~ x:247 y:169
2. 00:27:469 - imo the slider should start here
3. 00:28:155 (5,6) - move 1/2 behind in timing if last change is applied (or replace by small sliders)
4. 00:53:012 (5) - this slider is really weird ._. if you mirrored it at 00:54:384 would make more sense
5. 00:57:812 (1) - keep this same combo
6. 01:03:297 (1) - ^
7. 01:17:526 (4,5) - keep them in the same vector as 01:17:012 (3)

1. 01:36:898 (6,7) - move both to the right so 01:36:212 (5) blankets 01:37:069 (7)
2. I don't usually play maps with this style so I can't comment a lot on the gameplay, everything seemed on time and I could play throught it just fine, so sorry because I couldn't find anything D:

Milhofo wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue c: Hello

[Easy]

1. 00:22:155 (1) - does this really need to be a NC? No. Fixed~
2. 00:53:698 (4,5) - blanket better A blanketing mistake for a simple blanket? Oh dear. Fixed. Changed 00:51:641 (2) as well because these two are meant to mirror eachother
3. 01:18:384 - add note here? Alrighter done
4. 01:36:898 - add note/slider here Even more alrighter done

[Normal]

1. 00:01:584 (1) - move to ~ x:247 y:169 I can see you suggested this so they would blanket eachother, but I'll change it in a slightly different way because I wouldn't want to venture away from any objects in this difficulty being 1.0 distance from eachother.
2. 00:27:469 - imo the slider should start here Ok I've done this and then some.
3. 00:28:155 (5,6) - move 1/2 behind in timing if last change is applied (or replace by small sliders) With the way I did the last change and then some I didn't need to do this.
4. 00:53:012 (5) - this slider is really weird ._. if you mirrored it at 00:54:384 would make more sense Changed but in a different way as I don't think mirroring 00:54:384 would really fit.
5. 00:57:812 (1) - keep this same combo sshhh I was hoping I'd get away with this. Fixed.
6. 01:03:297 (1) - ^ ^
7. 01:17:526 (4,5) - keep them in the same vector as 01:17:012 (3) I'm not sure what you mean by that.

[Hard]

1. 01:36:898 (6,7) - move both to the right so 01:36:212 (5) blankets 01:37:069 (7) Ok
2. I don't usually play maps with this style so I can't comment a lot on the gameplay, everything seemed on time and I could play throught it just fine, so sorry because I couldn't find anything D: That's alright! Hearing that everything seems on time makes me pretty happy because the last update was a huge fix to a lot of the timing

Gl with this map Thanks!

1. 00:07:069 (3) - Should New Combo Here...
2. 00:09:812 (1) - Remove New Combo Here...
3. 00:12:555 (2) - New Combo here
4. 00:15:298 (3) - Remove it and change it. Ctrl+C from 00:12:555 (2) and then Ctrl+HG
5. 00:26:269 (2) - Ctrl+C here and paste at 00:23:526 (1) . remove the current slider and Ctrl+HG at the copied Slider. Don't forget New Combo
6. 00:29:012 (3) - New Combo
7. 00:56:441 (2) - New Combo
8. 02:00:898 (3) - Make the slider end at 02:02:269
9. 02:11:869 (1) - reverse

1. 01:33:469 (2,4) - Repair the Blanket. Move 01:34:841 (4) - 3rd dot to x:43 y:118

1. 01:18:041 add a slider here end at 01:18:384

1. 00:19:412 (1,2,3) - Make it a better triangle. Move 00:19:755 (3) to x:394 y:141
2. ^If OK repair the blanket Of 00:19:755 (3) . Move 2nd dot to x:372 y:200 - 3rd dot to x:303 y:224
3. 00:23:526 (1) - Move 2nd dot to x:369 y:112 - 3rd dot to x:401 y:193
4. 00:24:212 (3) - Move to x:401 y:267
5. 00:25:755 (8) - Move to x:120 y:191
6. 00:31:412 (10) - Move to x:160 y:150
7. 00:56:612 (2) - Move to x:272 y:142
8. 00:57:983 (7) - Move to x:272 y:242
9. 01:02:097 (2) - Move to x:240 y:142
10. 01:03:468 (7) - Move to x:240 y:242
11. 01:08:784 (1,2,3,4,5) - Awww... too many stacks here...

VINXIS wrote:

m909 where's the insane diff B) lmao jk In the land of unicorns B) Nah I don't have one because I can't figure out how to map something so hard.

Beginner

not much to say Yay!

EXCEPT that the sliders that are only 3/4 measur long should be one whole measure (for example sliders like 00:12:555 (2,3) - should be 1 white tick longer) Ok I did this for the sliders that I think work better as a whole measure.

EZ mod

00:18:726 (5) - nc Alright
00:19:412 (1) - remove nc Done
00:28:326 (2,3) - if u can, can u pls figure out a way to move the circle more left cuz imo that'd look better Because it's so close to the slider? Alright I fixed it to hopefully look better.
01:52:669 (2) - x:432 y:304 Done ;w; getting it on that exact pixel was difficult though.
02:05:012 (4,5) - blanket it bettr pls Ok I think I fixed it.

Normal

00:15:984 (2,3) - blanket better pls Ok fixed
00:23:526 (1) - imo this would be better if u made it as a blanket on the long slider's end I think I'll leave it as it is because I want it to stay symmterical to 00:45:469 (1) and the vocals at these parts are kind of sharp (if that's a good way to describe it) so I'd like these sliders to match that c:.
00:59:869 (2) - move it moar right (somewhere around x:216 y:176) I can see why you'd suggest that so they'd blanket each other but I wouldn't want to overlap with 00:58:498 (6) + doing this would mean either pushing 01:00:555 (3) off grid or messing with the current flow by putting it way up or way down to keep it in.
01:17:526 (4) - remove pls I think that space would be awkward so no ;-;
01:30:041 (2) - blanket better (i tried x:168 y:200 imo that looked better idk rip) How'd I mess up so badly darn nab. Fixed.
01:31:412 (4) - ^ but different co-ordinates obvs Kay
01:37:584 (1,2) - blanket pls Done c:

hart

00:02:612 (3,4) - blanket better pls Fixed
00:05:184 (3,4) - ^ Hopefully fixed
00:06:384 (8) - stack under slider I wish for it to stay free so no (and by free I mean keep the player moving).
00:15:469 (2,3) - blanket it like the one after this Ok
00:33:126 (5,6) - b l a n k e t pls 00:33:641 (6,7) already blanket and I think this would end up feeling a bit cramped :c
00:50:955 (1,2) - ^ Fixed
00:55:069 (5,6) - ^ Fixed? I think.
01:49:584 (5,6) - i see wat ur doin with this but imo I'd just stack the circle on the slider. Ye a Mmm.. I don't like the feel of this as much as the current set up so no D: (and I want to keep the leeaaad-iiin to 01:49:755 (6) . Ye.
01:58:326 (6) - Ctrl+H and same position Ok
02:02:784 (3,4) - b l a nk etknetk Nah I'd rather keep the semi-symmetry thing with 02:02:269 (1,2)

blanket mods everywhere osu needs a sewing club with how much we love blankets.

sorry if u got pissed off at my mod it's mostly just about blankets ri p TT_TT It's still helpful though so thank you.

Fantastica wrote:

Hi~~~~
A mod come from
Fantastica's STD/mania modding queue [NM/M4M/GD] :3 Greetings hello there fantastically fast modder.

[Beginner]

1. 00:07:069 (3) - Should New Combo Here... Alright.
2. 00:09:812 (1) - Remove New Combo Here... Okay.
3. 00:12:555 (2) - New Combo here Alrikay done
4. 00:15:298 (3) - Remove it and change it. Ctrl+C from 00:12:555 (2) and then Ctrl+HG Did something similar.
5. 00:26:269 (2) - Ctrl+C here and paste at 00:23:526 (1) . remove the current slider and Ctrl+HG at the copied Slider. Don't forget New Combo Did something similar
6. 00:29:012 (3) - New Combo Fixed~
7. 00:56:441 (2) - New Combo Fixed~
8. 02:00:898 (3) - Make the slider end at 02:02:269 I want it to follow the vocals so I didn't make this change.
9. 02:11:869 (1) - reverse Reversed~!

[Easy]

1. 01:33:469 (2,4) - Repair the Blanket. Move 01:34:841 (4) - 3rd dot to x:43 y:118 Repaired

[Normal]

1. 01:18:041 add a slider here end at 01:18:384 Ooh nice and intense alright done.

[Hard]

1. 00:19:412 (1,2,3) - Make it a better triangle. Move 00:19:755 (3) to x:394 y:141 Okay
2. ^If OK repair the blanket Of 00:19:755 (3) . Move 2nd dot to x:372 y:200 - 3rd dot to x:303 y:224 Done
3. 00:23:526 (1) - Move 2nd dot to x:369 y:112 - 3rd dot to x:401 y:193 Alrikay done~
4. 00:24:212 (3) - Move to x:401 y:267 Okay o:
5. 00:25:755 (8) - Move to x:120 y:191 Did something else to make the triangle better.
6. 00:31:412 (10) - Move to x:160 y:150 Did something else to fix this triangle :3
7. 00:56:612 (2) - Move to x:272 y:142 V
8. 00:57:983 (7) - Move to x:272 y:242V
9. 01:02:097 (2) - Move to x:240 y:142V
10. 01:03:468 (7) - Move to x:240 y:242 I can see why you suggested these positions for these 4 to make nice triangles but I'd rather keep the straight lines formed by the (1,2,3)s and (6,7,8)s
11. 01:08:784 (1,2,3,4,5) - Awww... too many stacks here... I think it's ok?

Ok Clear :3 Clear as glass?
Hope It'll help It does!
Oh... This mapset need more style... But good luck in this mapset XD M-more style? D: Thanks though~ ovo/

Ringating wrote:

from my queue:

I found this version of your current bg and manually extended it to 16:9, mostly just by duplicating patterns.

bg

as for the video, I'll try to get you a better version as soon as this goes away, so I can get a proper rip.

no kudosu

Ringating wrote:

here is the video file

miyagi wrote:

Hello ... sorry for the delay ... but ... here's my mod .. I hope it helps you something ... Your hope has been fulfilled

[General]

mm ... I will see that all is well .... Yes, it's all good ... (ノ・ω・)ノ

[Beginner]

01:29:335 (1) further expand this slider at this point of time 01:30:726 completes the simple rhythm of beatmap the complicated rhythm of the song. Done
01:32:098 (2) further expand this slider at this point of time 01:33:469 Okie
01:34:841 (3) further expand this slider at this point of time 01:36:212Dokie
01:37:584 (4) further expand this slider at this point of time 01:38:955Finished
I did these suggestions mostly because I realized I did that in similiar parts of the song but not this one and ~consistency~ is important

[Easy]

mmm ... .. This all good in my opinion ... ◕‿◕

[Normal]

Also this great ... (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ

[Hard]

UU ... .. XD I've been playing much this difficulty, which I already hit song XD. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
Great. This too great. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧

Good luck with your map ... ヾ(⌒▽⌒)ﾉ Thanks I'll keep doing my best
Practically it has ranked this. ヾ(＾▽＾)ﾉ

LixRei wrote:

Modding from my queue. I will focus on modding the lower diffs. Okay Hello hi ovo/

[Overview]

1. Great map overall. It's good, kinda fun to play and has nice rhythm and is pretty easy to SS. xD This might be a pretty "nazi" mod, since I'll mostly say some things about the placement of gameplay elements. Sounds good to me
2. Since star ratings of Beginner and Easy are so close to each other, you can erase Beginner diff if you want. I think Easy diff is beginner-friendly enough to work as the lowest diff of the set, but that's up to you. I think I'll keep beginner.
3. I couldn't help but notice you actually use inherited timing sections (the green ones) to change the SV in Beginner and Normal. You shouldn't change SV on the easier diffs because players aren't used to sudden changes in the speed of sliders, which will result in the newbies breaking combos. It's okay to use SV changes on Hard and above, through. ffwwooo how on earth I thought I fixed that on beginner (not sure how I missed that)
4. A question: What does exactly the "7:24" in Tags mean? If it isn't something that may help identify the map, I suggest to delete it from tags. It is what the artist who drew the background image and video goes by.
5. Your map exceeds the size cap of 24 MB. You should look for someone to aid you in encoding your video to make it lighter to reduce beatmap overall size. The upload cap size has been raised to 32mb recently, and I think that 24.6 mb is close enough to the guideline to slither by.
6. You can adjust your Grid Size to be able to place elements with more ease. Just press G until "Grid Size: Tiny" appears, since this is the best grid size to map IMO. I suggest it because it's easier to make complex shapes and create blankets that way. Usually I just have the grid snap off~
7. Here's a guide that might help you to create a nice flow in your maps. It might be pretty helpful, so give it a shot. I think I'll bookmark this page for reference thank you~

[Beginner]

1. Will be modding this diff since... why not? :3 Just in case. yay
2. 00:01:584 (1) - You don't need that many slider anchors to create a curve slider as simple as this one. Modders/mappers usually mark those as ugly. You can delete a slider anchor and keep the same shape if you do slider like this: *gasp* fixed
   
   Click!

   
3. 00:04:326 (2) - You should keep the last slider anchor (the one closer to the tail) right in the center of slider's tail for aesthetics. This is because many modders may come and tell you: "Why did you created that slider like that, when you can make it prettier like this?" or something like that. What I mean is something like this: Okay fixed yes
   
   Click!

   
   Oh, and you should check every slider in every diff for this kind of thing for practice. After all, I don't want to mention all of them since mod will be filled of the same thing, leaving little space for other suggestions. I'll do my best to do that! ~ovo~
4. 00:04:326 (2,1) - You can actually blanket those sliders. Alright I've attempted to fix this into a nice blanket.
5. 00:23:526 (1,2) - Spacing issue here. In beginner-friendly diffs, you need to keep Distance Snap (DS) the same (in this case, the DS you're using is 0.7x) as you continue mapping to teach players the time-distance equality rule of game (or that's what Ranking Criteria says). Yes teaching that equality is super important yes, fixed now to the beautiful .7 snap.
6. 00:45:469 (1,2) - ^^ (same as above) Ok I think I've fixed it.
7. 00:48:212 (2) - I think the waves on this slider are kinda exaggerated, giving it IMO an ugly shape. I think something like this is more fluid and pretty: Ok I'll make it flowier~~~
   
   Click!

   
   You can make shape like you want, but be careful as to not abuse of the anchors to give it some pretty unreadable shape. Okay I'll be careful
8. 00:50:955 (3,1,1) - Spacing issues within those three sliders. Move them to avoid those issues. Ok I think I fixed it and made this part look better now ^_^
9. 01:04:669 (2) - You should add a reverse to this slider to map 01:06:041 - to add some consistency in rhythm. Okie dokie
10. 01:07:412 (1) - If you add a reverse, you'll need to move this slider to fix spacing. Even if you don't add a reverse, you should move it down to make it easier to read, since right now it's too close to 01:04:669 (2) - Also, it's the same as 00:01:584 (1) - you don't need that many slider anchors to create this. This shape works just as fine: Fixed while fixing the slider velocity in the kiai.
    
    Click!

    
11. 01:13:584 - You should place something here to create a consistent rhythm as long as your Kiai lasts, since you were mapping every two beats already. Ok I'll add something for that consistency yes
12. 01:17:698 - ^^ I don't think this works very well so I didn't add anything here.
13. 01:40:326 (1,2,3) - Spacing issues. Fixed-su
14. 01:48:555 (3) - This simple shape made me laugh a little, but that's it. (lol) Hehehe
15. What's the point of the timing sections at 01:51:812 - and 01:52:155 - ? If they are to manipulate volume, you can simply move the timing section of 01:51:812 - to 01:51:984 - and the one in 01:52:155 - to 01:52:669 - Fixed it another way
16. 01:52:669 (2,3) - Check your blanket. It can be improved. Checked and improved
17. 01:54:726 - Map this for consistent rhythm. Ok
18. 01:57:469 - ^^ Okay
19. 02:00:212 - ^^ Alright
20. 02:02:955 - ^^ (those four are enough, you must surely have noticed I'm suggesting you map every two beats on your Kiais). I suggest this because consistent rhythm is easier to read and funnier to play. Alrikay done where I think it works.
21. 02:03:641 (1) - Remove New Combo (NC) marker for consistency and add the NC at 02:05:012 (2) - Did something else because that suggestion would also mess with the consistency.
22. Place the timing section of 02:08:955 - on 02:09:126 - and the one in 02:10:326 - on 02:10:155 - Did something else
23. 02:09:126 (4) - This slider should end on 02:10:498 - for consistent rhythm. I think I'll leave it as it is since if I do that I think it feels too long.
24. Just some little reminders:
    1. If you move a note, be sure to check spacing to correct any issues that may present on the future. Right
    2. If you add a note, check your NC before and afterwards for consistency. Will try
    3. If you change some slider shapes, check the spacing between slider end and next note, since it might get altered. Especially this

[Easy]

1. Same as Beginner: You have some spacing issues all along this diff. I won't mention them since I don't wanna make a long mod (and I already made such a long wall on Beginner, lol) Better open your AiMod (Ctrl + Shift + A) and check the box called "Check Distance Snap" or something like that. Since my AiMod doesn't mark that box, I'll screenshot it so that you know what I'm talking about. Ok I'll try to go through to fix it.
   
   Click!

   
2. 00:23:526 - You should map this beat, since it's quite a strong sound and will help to keep rhythm consistency later. Fixed by extending 00:22:155 (4) - /o/
3. 00:32:441 (2,3) - Check the spacing and the blanket. The blanket was flawless but fixed spacing then redid it.
4. 01:08:784 (2,3) - The flow here's kinda weird. You can improve it by making a blanket here, instead of making one on 01:07:412 (1,2) - I tried out various ways of making 01:08:784 (2,3) be a blanket instead of 01:07:412 (1,2) , but I think the current set up works better than any other alternative I tried out.
5. 01:51:298 (1,2,3) - Check the blanket. Checked and fixed.

[Normal]

1. 00:05:355 (3,4) - Check the blanket here. Checked and adjusted slightly.
2. 00:12:555 (1,2) - I know you want to make a blanket here, but you can't if that creates a spacing inconsistency. Correct that inconsistency. Fixed/corrected this inconsistency of spacing.
3. 00:15:298 (1) - I think this shape is very clustered, making it hard to read; and seems to sightly alter slider speed, making it unrankeable. Try to give it a different shape. I don't think it's tight enough to be an issue.
4. 00:18:041 (1,2) - ^^ ^^
5. 00:23:526 (1,2) - This flows kinda weird. My suggestion here is to give slider (1) a different shape, so that it aims at circle (2) direction to keep a nice flow. I'll leave it as it is as I prefer it this way, like it announces "hey the vocals have begun!" (If that makes any sort of smidge of sense.)
6. 00:26:612 (2,4) - You might want to check this. You can create/improve a blanket here if you want. ? It already is a blanket. Adjusted slightly to improve it.
7. 00:53:698 (1,2) - Flow here is kinda weird, too. Try to check it. Tried but I couldn't figure out what is weird about it.
8. 00:56:441 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I like this. The perfectly snapped symmetry and same angled line of the hitcircles and slider worked well ;w;
9. 01:00:555 (3,4) - Weird flow is weird, alright.Still unsure how it's weird..;;
10. 01:07:412 (1,2) - You might wanna blanket this. It does blanket, or at least I hope it does. 01:07:412 (1) - is blanketing the slider shape of 01:08:098 (2) - because if it blankets the head of 01:07:412 (1) - with how it is shaped it looks strange.
11. 01:11:526 (1,2) - I'm not a fan of this shape, as I already said on 00:15:298 (1) - I'll still keep it for now until I think that it is an issue along with the other 3.
12. 01:37:584 (1,2) - You might want to check this and see if you can blanket it better. I did something else because making it blanket more would require moving 01:38:955 (3) - and then things would start to get cramped.
13. 01:40:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I also like this. Again, glad that the perfectly snapped symmetry and pattern paid off ;w;.
14. 01:51:984 (2) - This shape... is pretty hard to read. You should change it. Ok fixed
15. 01:53:012 (1) - Why this slider has a NC? I have No Clue how that New Combo got there. Fixed to what it should be.
16. 02:07:755 (1,2) - Check blanket. Checked and repaired.
17. 02:10:498 (1,2) - The flow here's kinda ankward. You should try to improve it by moving slider (2). Remember to move 02:11:869 (1) - if you move that slider (2). Alright now I've turned it into something super cool. It flows better and still maintains DS! Woooo!!

[Hard]

1. 00:32:269 (2,4) - You should stack circle (4) under (2) properly for aesthetics. If you can't, just copy circle (2) and paste it where circle (4) is on the timeline. Oops it was a little bit off okay fixed it 'w'
2. 00:52:498 (5,1) - You should also stack those two. Okie dokie
3. 01:59:184 - You should add something here. It's such a strong sound, and I think it has to be mapped. Done because hey it works yes.
4. 02:01:926 - ^^ I considered and tried this but decided against it because I want there to be a short pause before going into the third and final kiai.
5. I think this Hard has more circles than the average, but it might be just me... Should be ok, right?

I think that's all I could find. It's quite helpful! /o/
Good luck! /o/ Thanks! 'w'

1. The hitsound seems a bit inconsistent hmm... try placing clap on 2nd and 4th white if you don't hear something sound like drum in the music on some 2nd and 4th white tick just use whistle or leave it be , you can add whistle on some instrument beat that is not a drum it will sound instresting
2. Some slider looks pretty bad imo you can go here https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/208596 and try making the slider structure looks like that

1. 00:09:469 (10) - tbh this looks ugly, try making it like this
   SPOILER

   
   I'm not good at making wave slider like that but you can make it better I guess
2. 00:11:184 (1,1) - Not enough recovery time for Hard https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/241019
3. 00:14:612 (4,5,6) - How about swap place of (4) and (5) ? it kinda make a flow here a bit better imo
4. 00:20:784 (1,2) - Same as 00:09:469 (10) - 5 anchor points wave slider is not a good idea for me imo , you might need to try rework the wave slider in this map
5. 00:22:155 (1,2) - DS = 1.1x !?!?!? I don't think (2) is emphasized enough to do small little jumps like that lol
6. 00:26:269 (1) - Not looking good
7. 00:27:812 (5) - Ctrl+G ? better flow
8. 00:34:326 (8) - This should start here 00:34:498 -
9. 00:49:755 (7) - Ctrl+G ? better flow
10. 01:01:241 (7) - Not looking good
11. 01:08:441 (5) - Ctrl+G ? better flow
12. 01:34:155 (7) - Ctrl+G ? better flow
13. 01:44:784 (6) - DS=1.1x....
14. 02:04:326 (3) - Not looking good , uhh..I don't know why you make slider looks like this but I think it not looking great , it just a 1/1 slider which is not enough to make good slider art imo if you aiming for that
15. 02:08:784 (5) - Ctrl+G
    This diff can be a bit bettter imo you can making instresting pattern , the pattern you using might be a bit too linear but well it's that not bad
    Flow can be improved too , you can go check some ranked maps and try get some flow idea from them
    Rhythm also need some work too , I guess , just go check ranked maps to study about rhythm or check this article https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Music_Theory, it works

1. 00:02:955 (3) - Might be good to use the sliderstructure just like what I suggested in Hard
2. 00:08:441 (3) - yea this is what we called slider art :3
3. 00:09:812 (1,1) - Not enough recovery time for Normal https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/241019
4. 02:06:384 (1,2) - Might be presonal preference , regular slider is looks good than bezier for this , I guess
   good bezier is hard to make imo
   Not a bad Normal, some slider be improved , try make it looks a bit good and this should be okay , I guess

1. 00:22:155 (4) - The way you curve at tail make this looks a bit weird
2. 01:55:412 (1) - Bad wave slider
3. 02:05:012 (4,5) - Inconsistent spacing
   Okay Easy , not bad

1. 01:54:041 (3) - I guess making the tail facing (4) head would make the flow here a bit better
2. 02:00:898 (4,1) - Blanket is off
3. 02:05:012 (4) - Stack (2)
   I see that the spread between this and Easy is quite low but I guess it okay to keep this for someone who really new to this game, not sure tho

Okoratu wrote:

uhhhh you know that the article you linked
1. isnt finalised
2. says the recovery time is k

CelsiusLK wrote:

Hi, modding here Hello there and happy month-past-your-birthday~!
I'll probably edit/check/improve reply to this tomorrow since sickness does weird things to my mind. This reply seems ok to me right now but idk for sure.

Blue= Applied in some shape or form
Red= Not applied in any shape or form but is added to my friendly google docs for revisiting to see if I regret the decision to say no (I do quite frequently).
Pink/Purple= Happy reaction to compliment that gives me hope for this mapset's better future.

[General]

1. The hitsound seems a bit inconsistent hmm... try placing clap on 2nd and 4th white if you don't hear something sound like drum in the music on some 2nd and 4th white tick just use whistle or leave it be , you can add whistle on some instrument beat that is not a drum it will sound instresting will attempt
2. Some slider looks pretty bad imo you can go here https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/208596 and try making the slider structure looks like that I've practically memorized that post yes~ orz

[Hard]

1. 00:09:469 (10) - tbh this looks ugly, try making it like this
   SPOILER

   
   I'm not good at making wave slider like that but you can make it better I guess Prettied up I think
2. 00:11:184 (1,1) - Not enough recovery time for Hard https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/241019 It is don't worry (see Okoratu's post yes)
3. 00:14:612 (4,5,6) - How about swap place of (4) and (5) ? it kinda make a flow here a bit better imo Er, I don't think that works very well.
4. 00:20:784 (1,2) - Same as 00:09:469 (10) - 5 anchor points wave slider is not a good idea for me imo , you might need to try rework the wave slider in this map Redone to have the exact same slider shapes with only 3 points each is that alright
5. 00:22:155 (1,2) - DS = 1.1x !?!?!? I don't think (2) is emphasized enough to do small little jumps like that lol I was confused by the way this was phrased because the DS is 1.1 and I thought you were pointing out that 1.1 was a jump leaving me wondering "?????" but I see what that is now alrikay repaired.
6. 00:26:269 (1) - Not looking good b-but it's nice and smooth and pretty
7. 00:27:812 (5) - Ctrl+G ? better flow I think the reordering that would be required to make this not break DS would make the right side of the map at this part very cramped.
8. 00:34:326 (8) - This should start here 00:34:498 - It's pretty good where it is. Moving it to 00:34:498 - would be a bit strange since I'm following the vocals.
9. 00:49:755 (7) - Ctrl+G ? better flow In extended many attempts to figure this one out to possibly implement this without crampedness I have failed to find an answer.
10. 01:01:241 (7) - Not looking good It's meant to be doing a funky blanket with 01:00:897 (6) . Redone with 4 instead of 6 points is that ok.
11. 01:08:441 (5) - Ctrl+G ? better flow This reply is so red I feel bad but no;; but in trying to figure out a way it could work I noticed that 01:08:098 (4) - 's blanket was off so thanks for the indirect help yeah.
12. 01:34:155 (7) - Ctrl+G ? better flow Not really?
13. 01:44:784 (6) - DS=1.1x.... Ooops fixed
14. 02:04:326 (3) - Not looking good , uhh..I don't know why you make slider looks like this but I think it not looking great , it just a 1/1 slider which is not enough to make good slider art imo if you aiming for that I've made it a bit smoother but am keeping the overall shape.
15. 02:08:784 (5) - Ctrl+G Same sound same direction same shape so er..
    This diff can be a bit bettter imo you can making instresting pattern , the pattern you using might be a bit too linear but well it's that not bad
    Flow can be improved too , you can go check some ranked maps and try get some flow idea from them
    Rhythm also need some work too , I guess , just go check ranked maps to study about rhythm or check this article https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Music_Theory, it works

[Normal]

1. 00:02:955 (3) - Might be good to use the sliderstructure just like what I suggested in Hard Ok will try.
2. 00:08:441 (3) - yea this is what we called slider art :3 :3 .. Yes good nice to agree
3. 00:09:812 (1,1) - Not enough recovery time for Normal https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/241019 It is don't worry (see Okoratu's post yes)
4. 02:06:384 (1,2) - Might be presonal preference , regular slider is looks good than bezier for this , I guess
   good bezier is hard to make imo I guess I'll keep it as it since they're meant to be a cool breathe of air in a land of a normal of many 3 point sliders where the space between the sliders makes a nice wave, giving the impression of freedom and space like that of the ocean.
   Not a bad Normal, some slider be improved , try make it looks a bit good and this should be okay , I guess Will try aye

[Easy]

1. 00:22:155 (4) - The way you curve at tail make this looks a bit weird Changed a bit
2. 01:55:412 (1) - Bad wave slider Ok I'll make it smoother.
3. 02:05:012 (4,5) - Inconsistent spacing Darnit goodbye perfect blanket of 02:05:012 (4) - you shall be reborn. Fixed.
   Okay Easy , not bad

[Beginner]

1. 01:54:041 (3) - I guess making the tail facing (4) head would make the flow here a bit better Fixed it I think..
2. 02:00:898 (4,1) - Blanket is off Deja-vu I feel like I've made this fix before. Fixed? For the second time? Hm.
3. 02:05:012 (4) - Stack (2) Fixedededededededededededededededededadaddadadadada!
   I see that the spread between this and Easy is quite low but I guess it okay to keep this for someone who really new to this game, not sure tho Yes it is meant to be good for those really new to this game and yes the difference between this and easy is pretty dramatic for those new to this game and yes I'm determined to keep it yeah.

I guess Hard would need more work and more mods It shall chug along the way to goodness hopefully
That's all Woah

Good luck Thank yee ovo/

Okoratu wrote:

uhhhh you know that the article you linked
1. isnt finalised
2. says the recovery time is k

ByBy_ChAn wrote:

Hi ! My mod ! Sry for late ! From #modreqs or your queue o: ?

~General~

1. Delete the blue line from 00:12:555 ()- on all diffs and add there a red line because there begin the louder part of the song If the beginning were super duper quiet like barely audible quiet I'd understand this suggestion but it's not so ??? ??? ??? 00:01:584 is definitely the first downbeat.
3. Your map looks fine but I don't like some sliders like this :
   
   SPOILER

   
   Those sliders are how to say unclean and unrankable and break the flow . I highly sggest to change all the ugly sliders on all diffs I'll honestly consider this for sliders that are unrankable and unclean and break the flow if I find any.

~Begginer~ Beginner* ;w;

1. Read this pls :
   

   Ranking Criteria wrote:

   A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set. The mapset's hardest difficulty may use an appropriate custom difficulty name, unrelated to a username. Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player. Marathon maps with a single difficulty may use free naming.

   
   Will consider renaming to "SS For All".
   This name ''Beginner'' isn't allowed because that name is only for beatmania songs . Change it too ''Super Easy'' or delete that diff because you have already a easy diff Where did it say only beatmania songs can use it? It doesn't say that anywhere in your quote or elsewhere in the ranking criteria iirc. No but seriously there's lots of standard maps that aren't beatmania related with the Beginner difficulty name yo.

~Easy~

1. 00:04:326(1)- This slider doesn't fit well the music . Move the slider's tail on 00:05:698()- and then add a circle on 00:06:384()- I don't understand what that circle would be going with in the music... and tried for a solid hour to come up with something else that fits better than what I currently have... I failed OTL
2. 00:07:065()- Add here a slider to not skip the beat if you moved the previous slider's tail on 00:05:698 . Also add NC for consistency
3. 00:11:878()- Add a circle to not skip the beat of the music That would be unsnapped even if I changed offset like you suggested + this is a silence where a spinner is in other difficulties to go with what I call the "reverse symbal crash sound" for lack of a better name.
4. 00:13:926(2)- Adjust a little bit the slider or make it curve imo to can make a blanket with 00:15:984(3)- but move this circle on x:256 y:200 It's already a blanket with 00:15:984(3)- ?
5. 00:16:669(4)- imo this slider's tail is very close of 00:13:926(2)- 's head . Copy+paste and then flip vertically and reverse selection to keep the flow good I guess
   
   
   Possibility 1 because you don't specify which slider for copy paste maybe you mean ctrl+j ctrl+g to the current 00:16:669(4)

   Before:
   
   After:
   
   Possbility 2 if you mean copy paste 00:13:926(2)-

   Before:
   
   After:
   
   Ruins symmetry thing of 00:16:669 (4,1,2) - even if the visible distance snap break in this image would be fixable
   ???? Are you modding the current version of this map these past few suggestions makes little sense I am very confused.
6. 00:18:041()- Add here a slider and delete the note from 00:18:726()- because that note could be hard for newbie players ?? and not 00:15:984 (3) - ?? or 00:21:469 (3) - ?? There is a white tick between every note in this sequence so don't worry I don't think it'll be too hard for newbie players unless they're completely less than 10 plays newbies. In which case that's why Beginner exists. 'v'
7. 00:19:412(2)- Hmm make it curve to can make a blanket with 00:21:469(3)- ? but it does blanket already??
   SPOILER

   
8. 00:22:155(4)- I don't like this slider This slider looks unclean and ugly imo . Change that slider make it more beautiful like here :
   
   SPOILER

   

While this suggested slider is indeed pretty it doesn't really fit the music as well ;w; and when I try variations of it that would fit the music it ends up.. being the exact same slider as before

SPOILER

Ahh , I'm going to cook ;w; . I will continue the mod later If I forget , call me Can I call and ask if you updated the map before modding? ;o;

1. I think Beginner diff is not necesarry needed. Well you see your Easy diff is already easy enough to play. What you need is an Insane diff to complete the mapset imo

1. 00:01:584 (1,2,3,4,5) - A bit concern about that one, why not have same rhythm as 00:04:669 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 00:07:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think it'll sound better if have same rhythm like that
2. 00:10:841 (4) - Move that to x:216 y:120? to have paralel straight flow from (2) and (3)
3. 00:12:898 (1) - Move it one grid to right for better blanket x:240 y:152 then move this three 00:13:926 (1,2,3) - to x:156 y:136 to make this 00:14:269 (3) - perfectly stack with 00:12:898 (1) -
4. 00:15:641 (3) - For a better flow, how about you ctrl+g this one and this one 00:15:984 (4,5) - , well I think the zigzag flow betwen the much better when yo do ctrl+g
5. 00:19:755 (3) - Also ctrl+g that, it's better to have that (3) downward then ctrl+g this one 00:20:269 (4,5) - and move (5) to x:394 and y:141
6. 00:22:841 (3) - I think that one is better stop on white tick rather on red tick, because you miss the clap sound on music and I think it'll flow better
7. 00:26:955 (3) - Make it a curve? well it's like you can make this whole section 00:26:784 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - on curve slider
8. 00:27:812 (5) - For a better flow, I think you can ctrl+g that and a make a bit jump between 00:27:812 (5) - and 00:28:155 (6) - As far as I see as the hardest diff on the mapset it was lack of jumps, so it's probably be ok if we put some
9. 00:31:069 (8,9,10) - How about you following ds instead maybe move to x:169 Y:138? I see no reason to put that on 1.30 ds because it have same rhythm as 00:13:926 (1,2,3) - and 00:14:612 (4,5,6) - that follow on 1.1 ds
10. 00:49:755 (7) - For better flow you ctrl+g that a make a bit jump with 00:50:098 (8) -
11. 00:56:612 (2) - Move this to x:272 y:144? to make better triangel between them 00:56:612 (2,3,4) -
12. 00:57:983 (7) - Same as above move this to x:272 y:240?
13. 01:01:241 (7) - Please fix the nodes on that one, so can blanket properly with (6)
14. 01:02:097 (2) - Move to x:240 y:144?
15. 01:03:468 (7) - Move to x:240 y:240?
16. 01:06:726 (7) - How about make that slider stop on white tick instead? because you'll miss the clap sound on that
17. 01:08:441 (5) - For a better flow ctrl+g that and make a bit jump with 01:08:784 (1) -
18. 01:08:955 (2,4) - Ctrl+g that? for some reason the flow is better when it flow from downward to upward and actually I don't really like when (2) is stacked under 01:08:441 (5) - that's a bit tricky to play
19. 01:10:326 (2) - Move that on 01:10:155 (1) - ? If you follow the lyric then it'll be better if (2) is stacked under (1) same as this 01:17:012 (1,2) -
20. 01:31:241 (5,1) - You can blanket that neater
21. 01:49:926 (6) - Why that one on S curve? well in my opinion that'll be better if on curve that blanket 01:48:898 (2,3) - and make a circular flow between 01:48:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -

1. 00:11:869 - Add green line on that one, and set the volume 10~20% to silent the spinner end
2. 00:13:926 (3) - Make it something like this? http://puu.sh/eCCOp/7cbbfa8023.jpg The flow doesn't play good on curent state
3. 01:17:526 (2,3,4) - The flow reaaally bad, you can see the broken flow on (2,3,4) that kinda to sharp, maybe you can try something like this http://puu.sh/eCDjN/9ef40cc090.jpg
4. 02:02:784 (2) - Delete that? kinda not fit with the rhythm
5. 02:06:384 (1,2) - That kinda bothering me, how about make them blanket better like this? http://puu.sh/eCEm9/2517823e54.jpg
   
   I saw some overlap notes when play and not looking so good, maybe you can try to prevent some and the flow can be improve

I think Beginner diff is not necesarry needed. Well you see your Easy diff is already easy enough to play. What you need is an Insane diff to complete the mapset imo

dorothy3242 wrote:

I'm sorry it.. I made no changes with this mod. I really did try to look at every single suggestion to try to see why you suggested it, and how/if it would improve the map, if not, is there something else to improve the map where you think it could be improved, and such.... .. Thank you for it though I still appreciate it and I'll list stuff you mentioned down too and keep it in mind and..
b.) look back on again to try to reconsider / retry to find a way to do something similar that is better than what is currently there
Also you should probably avoid putting ()'s that makes the editor jump to the nearest circle instead of the given time >_<

• 
  You applied whistle on slider body for these
  they sound pretty annoying on some skins/default skin. Please remove them.
  
  Beginner

1. 01:07:412 (1) -
2. 02:00:898 (4) -
3. 02:11:869 (1) -
   
   Easy
4. 00:09:812 (4) -
5. 00:22:155 (4) -
6. 00:26:269 (1) -
7. 00:33:126 (3) -
8. 00:45:469 (1) -
9. 01:00:555 (5) -
10. 01:08:784 (2) -
11. 01:34:841 (4) -
12. 01:48:555 (3) -
13. 01:52:669 (2) -
14. 02:06:384 (5,6) -
15. 02:11:869 (3) -
    
    Normal
16. 00:13:926 (3) -
17. 00:16:669 (3) -
18. 00:19:412 (3) -
19. 00:22:155 (3) -
20. 00:34:498 (1) -
21. 00:51:641 (2) -
22. 01:01:241 (4) -
23. 01:09:126 (1) -
24. 01:11:526 (1,2) -
25. 01:36:212 (4) -
26. 01:43:755 (2) -
27. 01:55:412 (4,5) -
28. 02:00:898 (1) -
29. 02:06:384 (1,2) -
30. 02:10:498 (1,2) -
    
    Hard
31. 00:03:984 (6) -
32. 00:06:726 (9) -
33. 00:09:469 (10) -
34. 00:24:726 (4,5) -
35. 00:26:269 (1) -
36. 00:27:469 (4,5) -
37. 00:29:012 (1) -
38. 00:30:212 (5) -
39. 00:31:755 (1) -
40. 00:34:326 (8) -
41. 00:49:412 (6,7) -
42. 00:50:955 (1,2) -
43. 01:01:241 (7) -
44. 01:05:355 (3) -
45. 01:11:870 (3) -
46. 01:12:555 (6) -
47. 01:32:098 (1,2) -
48. 01:55:755 (3) -
49. 01:56:441 (6) -
50. 01:58:326 (6) -
51. 02:02:955 (4) -
52. 02:06:726 (3) -
53. 02:07:412 (6) -

ByBy_ChAn wrote:

dorothy3242 wrote:

I'm sorry it.. I made no changes with this mod. I really did try to look at every single suggestion to try to see why you suggested it, and how/if it would improve the map, if not, is there something else to improve the map where you think it could be improved, and such.... .. Thank you for it though I still appreciate it and I'll list stuff you mentioned down too and keep it in mind and..
b.) look back on again to try to reconsider / retry to find a way to do something similar that is better than what is currently there
Also you should probably avoid putting ()'s that makes the editor jump to the nearest circle instead of the given time >_<

Ooops ! Sorry ! I forgot to redl ;w; I will mod again >////<

ByBy_ChAn wrote:

Catched the mapper and made a IRC about some issues in Beginner and Easy diff .

SPOILER

08:29 ByBy_ChAn: hi
08:29 dorothy3242: hi there
08:29 ByBy_ChAn: I redl your map and those issues so you agree with IRC to understand ?
08:30 dorothy3242: Sure that sounds fine to me
08:30 ByBy_ChAn: okay
08:31 dorothy3242: alright
08:31 ByBy_ChAn: beginner : you can rename it to ''super easy''
08:32 dorothy3242: super easy?
08:32 ByBy_ChAn: yes
08:32 ByBy_ChAn: because is most easier than easy diff
08:32 ByBy_ChAn: but pls change some sliders in beginner diff
08:32 dorothy3242: yeah, I did some looking around for this one
08:32 dorothy3242: all other easier than easy diffs I found were also called beginner
08:33 dorothy3242: so I'll keep it that way ><;
08:33 dorothy3242: which sliders? o:
08:33 ByBy_ChAn: lemme see
08:33 ByBy_ChAn: 00:01:584 (1)- 
08:33 ByBy_ChAn: 00:04:326 (2)-
08:34 ByBy_ChAn: try to make a slider shape , not curve
08:34 dorothy3242: a slider shape?
08:34 ByBy_ChAn: sure 
08:34 ByBy_ChAn: lemme make a ss
08:35 ByBy_ChAn: some pictures form qualified map
08:35 ByBy_ChAn: *from my qualified map
08:35 dorothy3242: ooh woah
08:35 ByBy_ChAn: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2547019
08:36 ByBy_ChAn: or this 
08:36 ByBy_ChAn: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2547029
08:37 dorothy3242: hmm I see slider shapes like those
08:38 ByBy_ChAn: yes but pls don't make much curved sliders because the diff will become too boring for player 
08:38 dorothy3242: Okay I'll look at them and try to see where I can do other-than-curves
08:39 ByBy_ChAn: good :0
08:39 ByBy_ChAn: *:)
08:39 dorothy3242: c:
08:44 dorothy3242: is that all o: ?
08:44 ByBy_ChAn: not yet
08:44 ByBy_ChAn: there are issues
08:45 dorothy3242: okay
08:45 dorothy3242: o:
08:48 ByBy_ChAn: imo add some notes because is too boring x///x
08:48 ByBy_ChAn: example :
08:48 ByBy_ChAn: here 00:14:612 ()-
08:49 ByBy_ChAn: 00:03:641 ()-
08:51 ByBy_ChAn: 00:11:869 ()-
08:52 dorothy3242: for these I'd be worried it'd make it too hard for a beginner ><
08:52 ByBy_ChAn: what ? don't worry
08:52 ByBy_ChAn: is not hard xD
08:52 dorothy3242: for a beginner maybe :o
08:52 ByBy_ChAn: I know what I'm doing
08:52 ByBy_ChAn: this is not a problem
08:53 ByBy_ChAn: maybe you should see some beginner diffs from ranked maps
08:54 dorothy3242: I did and took notes
08:54 ByBy_ChAn: good
08:54 ByBy_ChAn: 00
08:54 ByBy_ChAn: :oops
08:54 dorothy3242: all the beginners I know of at least are also one note every other thick o:
08:54 dorothy3242: or more
08:54 dorothy3242: tick*
08:56 ByBy_ChAn: 00:14:612 (2)- place it on x:256 y:184 to can make a blanket with 00:12:555 (1)- and with 00:15:298 (3)-
08:57 dorothy3242: ?? on beginner
08:57 dorothy3242: ??
08:58 ByBy_ChAn: yes of course
08:59 ByBy_ChAn: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2547195
08:59 dorothy3242: but that'd be a jump in a beginner ?
08:59 ByBy_ChAn: is not a jump
09:00 ByBy_ChAn: is a blanket
09:00 ByBy_ChAn: maybe you should learn more things xD
09:00 dorothy3242: but it's very far away from the other notes when looking at usual spacing?? o:
09:01 ByBy_ChAn: is not far
09:01 ByBy_ChAn: I saw this blanket on ranked easy diffs
09:01 dorothy3242: like uh I have the ds set to .7 and that'd be 1.1
09:02 ByBy_ChAn: it's not a problem
09:02 ByBy_ChAn: because is not so far
09:02 dorothy3242: for a beginner? ;;
09:03 ByBy_ChAn: don't worry
09:03 ByBy_ChAn: is not
09:03 ByBy_ChAn: check the Ai mod
09:03 dorothy3242: for a beginner??? ;;
09:03 dorothy3242: yeah the AIMod complains about the spacing there if I do that
09:03 ByBy_ChAn: hmm ok lemme see
09:05 ByBy_ChAn: try this :
09:06 ByBy_ChAn: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2547245
09:06 ByBy_ChAn: the distance error disappear
09:06 dorothy3242: hmm..
09:07 dorothy3242: I'm concerned that putting a note every white tick throughout beginner would make it too close to the easy difficulty >_<
09:07 dorothy3242: every other white tick*
09:08 ByBy_ChAn: well you don't need to put a circle on every white tick
09:08 ByBy_ChAn: where you want
09:11 dorothy3242: hmm
09:13 ByBy_ChAn: well?
09:14 dorothy3242: where I want is well
09:14 ByBy_ChAn: good
09:15 dorothy3242: it's not really I can't really find anywhere so far that it's where I would want it
09:15 ByBy_ChAn: As I said in thread , there are some ugly sliders like this : 00:31:755 (2)- in beginner
09:15 dorothy3242: because even if it's a little bit boring it is meant to be the easiest of easy and easy easier than easy
09:15 dorothy3242: okay I'll fix that one
09:15 ByBy_ChAn: well it should be a little like easy diff
09:15 ByBy_ChAn: :)
09:16 dorothy3242: but there is an easy diff c:
09:16 ByBy_ChAn: ehh
09:16 dorothy3242: so easier than the easy c:
09:16 ByBy_ChAn: but why I said to put some notes in beginner ? To not skip the beat parts
09:17 dorothy3242: It's kind of following the overall rhythm of the music more than specific beats
09:18 ByBy_ChAn: well I saw you skip some beats in beginner diff 
09:18 dorothy3242: for a slider like 00:31:755 (2) -  do you think something like http://puu.sh/eE04H/8f61079933.jpg would work better
09:18 dorothy3242: ?
09:18 ByBy_ChAn:  sure
09:18 dorothy3242: okay c:
09:19 ByBy_ChAn: another thing
09:19 dorothy3242: ?
09:20 ByBy_ChAn: 02:05:012 (4)- Place it on x:280 y:257 to stack it with 02:02:955 (2)-
09:20 dorothy3242: oh how did I mess that one up
09:20 dorothy3242: fixed ><
09:20 ByBy_ChAn: :)
09:21 dorothy3242: c:
09:21 ByBy_ChAn: lemme see again the beginner diff
09:22 dorothy3242: ? you mean I update it? o:
09:22 ByBy_ChAn: not yet
09:22 dorothy3242: ? ok
09:23 ByBy_ChAn: 00:12:555 (1)- hit drum clap at the slider tail , not hit soft clap
09:23 ByBy_ChAn: 00:15:298 (3)- ^
09:25 ByBy_ChAn: 00:18:041 (1)- here you forgot to add clap at the slider's tail . Add it but before that remove the hit drum finish from slider's arrow
09:25 ByBy_ChAn: 00:20:784 (2)- ^
09:26 dorothy3242: okie dokie ovo/
09:26 ByBy_ChAn: :)
09:26 ByBy_ChAn: 00:34:498 (1)- soft finish not normal finish
09:26 dorothy3242: C:
09:27 dorothy3242: ? how come o:
09:28 ByBy_ChAn: well normal hitfinish doesn't fit well the music background so soft finish works perfectly :3
09:28 dorothy3242: ooh I see :3
09:28 dorothy3242: I'll go through and do that for the other finishes too then :O
09:28 ByBy_ChAn: 01:07:412 (1)- ^ on slider's head
09:28 ByBy_ChAn: oki
09:29 ByBy_ChAn: 01:18:384 (1)- ^
09:30 ByBy_ChAn: 01:29:355 (1)- ^ hit softfinish
09:30 ByBy_ChAn: ok . whee
09:31 dorothy3242: wheee
09:31 ByBy_ChAn: *where 's finish , change the auddition to soft
09:32 dorothy3242: okay ovo/
09:32 dorothy3242: shoudln't be too hard
09:32 dorothy3242: all the finishes coincide around the bookmarks
09:32 dorothy3242: ovo
09:32 ByBy_ChAn: yes
09:33 ByBy_ChAn: call me back after you fixed all finishes
09:34 dorothy3242: okay
09:53 dorothy3242: okay I've fixed the finishes (and went and got some foood)
09:53 ByBy_ChAn: ok
09:56 dorothy3242: ovo
09:56 ByBy_ChAn: you can now continue ?
09:56 dorothy3242: yes
09:56 ByBy_ChAn: ok
10:02 ByBy_ChAn: 00:56:441 (1)- This should be 1/2 slider , not 1/1
10:02 ByBy_ChAn: I mean the slider's tail end on big white tick
10:03 dorothy3242: in beginner?
10:03 ByBy_ChAn: yes
10:03 ByBy_ChAn: 01:01:926 (1)- 1/2 slider
10:03 dorothy3242: most sliders in this diff are 1/1 though
10:04 ByBy_ChAn: lemme see
10:04 dorothy3242: so just these two?
10:04 ByBy_ChAn: yes
10:05 ByBy_ChAn: well those big sliders are 1/2 sliders 
10:06 dorothy3242: ah
10:06 dorothy3242: alright I'll fix these
10:08 ByBy_ChAn: also , on 00:58:498 ()- you can add here a note to make a blanket with 00:56:441 (1)- and then place 00:58:498 ()- on x:175 y:226 and then place 00:59:184 (3)- on x:241 y:135 to avoid spacing error
10:08 ByBy_ChAn: I know is hard for you xD
10:09 dorothy3242: yeah it's a bit hard to make it fit xD;
10:09 ByBy_ChAn: ok
10:10 dorothy3242: especially with those time signatures
10:10 dorothy3242: because with the () they like to jump to the nearest hitcircle instead
10:10 ByBy_ChAn: hmmm
10:10 dorothy3242: 00:58:498 -
10:11 ByBy_ChAn: no it means there isn't object
10:11 dorothy3242: vs 00:58:498 ()-
10:11 dorothy3242: if there's no object don't put parentheses
10:11 ByBy_ChAn: ehh my style XD
10:11 dorothy3242: but see how the one with parentheses jumps to 00:59:184 (2) -  instead?
10:11 ByBy_ChAn: yes
10:11 ByBy_ChAn: I guess
10:11 dorothy3242: yeah ;-;
10:13 ByBy_ChAn: but before end this irc , you have a issue on easy diff 
10:13 dorothy3242: ?
10:14 ByBy_ChAn: 00:04:326 (2)- As I said in thread , here doesn't works a 1/3 slider 
10:14 dorothy3242: 1/3?
10:14 ByBy_ChAn: yes
10:14 ByBy_ChAn: I mean this slider is on 3 big white ticks
10:15 dorothy3242: ?? http://puu.sh/eE7zh/41aa944b5e.jpg  oh
10:19 dorothy3242: Okay I'll fix it
10:19 ByBy_ChAn: good
10:19 ByBy_ChAn: here works 1/2 slider I mean on 2 big white ticks
10:20 dorothy3242: okay
10:20 ByBy_ChAn: :)
10:20 dorothy3242: C:
10:20 dorothy3242: is that everything? o:
10:20 ByBy_ChAn: sure
10:20 ByBy_ChAn: I have to mod a map ;w;
10:21 ByBy_ChAn: lemme post the irc :3

Good Luck ! >////<

Mako Sakata wrote:

Hellooo from my mod queue~ Oh woah hi there c:

[General]

1. I think Beginner diff is not necesarry needed. Well you see your Easy diff is already easy enough to play. What you need is an Insane diff to complete the mapset imo

I'll keep beginner

[Hard]

1. 00:01:584 (1,2,3,4,5) - A bit concern about that one, why not have same rhythm as 00:04:669 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 00:07:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think it'll sound better if have same rhythm like that It's meant to be build up o:
2. 00:10:841 (4) - Move that to x:216 y:120? to have paralel straight flow from (2) and (3) Okay o:
3. 00:12:898 (1) - Move it one grid to right for better blanket x:240 y:152 then move this three 00:13:926 (1,2,3) - to x:156 y:136 to make this 00:14:269 (3) - perfectly stack with 00:12:898 (1) - Instead I'll adjust the slider for a hopefully better blanket
4. 00:15:641 (3) - For a better flow, how about you ctrl+g this one and this one 00:15:984 (4,5) - , well I think the zigzag flow betwen the much better when yo do ctrl+g Oh I see what you mean. Okay, I'll do that + some other small changes to this section to make this work.
5. 00:19:755 (3) - Also ctrl+g that, it's better to have that (3) downward then ctrl+g this one 00:20:269 (4,5) - and move (5) to x:394 and y:141 Wait What I'm a bit confused (3) is already moving downwards?
6. 00:22:841 (3) - I think that one is better stop on white tick rather on red tick, because you miss the clap sound on music and I think it'll flow better It's mean to go to that er, what I describe as the "dwindling down sound" and if it ends earlier than before that ends it sounds a bit strange to me uh.
7. 00:26:955 (3) - Make it a curve? well it's like you can make this whole section 00:26:784 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - on curve slider It's meant to be like 00:24:212 (3) - but I'll make a change to the angle it's at to make it lesss strange
8. 00:27:812 (5) - For a better flow, I think you can ctrl+g that and a make a bit jump between 00:27:812 (5) - and 00:28:155 (6) - As far as I see as the hardest diff on the mapset it was lack of jumps, so it's probably be ok if we put some "lack of jumps" There are 0 jumps unless unintentional ahaha; It wont be the hardest diff forever because Okoratu is making GD Insane(s). I think I'll leave this as it it.
9. 00:31:069 (8,9,10) - How about you following ds instead maybe move to x:169 Y:138? I see no reason to put that on 1.30 ds because it have same rhythm as 00:13:926 (1,2,3) - and 00:14:612 (4,5,6) - that follow on 1.1 ds Oops fixed>_<
10. 00:49:755 (7) - For better flow you ctrl+g that a make a bit jump with 00:50:098 (8) - Nahhnh I'm against having a jump there
11. 00:56:612 (2) - Move this to x:272 y:144? to make better triangel between them 00:56:612 (2,3,4) - But the line is meant to be like the 00:57:126 (5) - slider for example
12. 00:57:983 (7) - Same as above move this to x:272 y:240?^
13. 01:01:241 (7) - Please fix the nodes on that one, so can blanket properly with (6) Okay fix attempted
14. 01:02:097 (2) - Move to x:240 y:144?I prioritize keeping the line over making a triangle
15. 01:03:468 (7) - Move to x:240 y:240?^
16. 01:06:726 (7) - How about make that slider stop on white tick instead? because you'll miss the clap sound on that But wouldn't it be a bit odd to be following the vocals the whole time then end early here?
17. 01:08:441 (5) - For a better flow ctrl+g that and make a bit jump with 01:08:784 (1) - This part doesn't really call for a jump I don't think.
18. 01:08:955 (2,4) - Ctrl+g that? for some reason the flow is better when it flow from downward to upward and actually I don't really like when (2) is stacked under 01:08:441 (5) - that's a bit tricky to play O h woah I see okay done.
19. 01:10:326 (2) - Move that on 01:10:155 (1) - ? If you follow the lyric then it'll be better if (2) is stacked under (1) same as this 01:17:012 (1,2) - Okay fixed yes
20. 01:31:241 (5,1) - You can blanket that neater Okay fixed I think
21. 01:49:926 (6) - Why that one on S curve? well in my opinion that'll be better if on curve that blanket 01:48:898 (2,3) - and make a circular flow between 01:48:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Alright I'll do that

[Normal]

1. 00:11:869 - Add green line on that one, and set the volume 10~20% to silent the spinner end Oh ooops yes okay done
2. 00:13:926 (3) - Make it something like this? http://puu.sh/eCCOp/7cbbfa8023.jpg The flow doesn't play good on curent state Realizing that I did that exact slider shape for the other two and not this one, done.
3. 01:17:526 (2,3,4) - The flow reaaally bad, you can see the broken flow on (2,3,4) that kinda to sharp, maybe you can try something like this http://puu.sh/eCDjN/9ef40cc090.jpg Okay did something similiar.
4. 02:02:784 (2) - Delete that? kinda not fit with the rhythm I don't really see what you mean so I'll leave it as it is for now.
5. 02:06:384 (1,2) - That kinda bothering me, how about make them blanket better like this? http://puu.sh/eCEm9/2517823e54.jpg They aren't meant to blanket;
   
   I saw some overlap notes when play and not looking so good, maybe you can try to prevent some and the flow can be improve I'll try my best to sniff the overlaps out.

[]
What I concern on this mapset is the hitsound, well it's sound pretty random for me maybe it's just me or haha :p >_< yeah apparently they are lacking.
Goodluck then~ Thank you very much!

Okoratu wrote:

I think Beginner diff is not necesarry needed. Well you see your Easy diff is already easy enough to play. What you need is an Insane diff to complete the mapset imo

I'm doing the insane(s) :p

finap wrote:

here the fuck we go Woo!

[Beginner]
00:56:441 (1) - Extend 1 more measure (4 beats) longer to go with the song... Hesitantly fixed
01:01:926 (1) - ^^^^^^^ Hesitantly fixed aswell
01:55:412 (4,1) - Way too much time in between these notes, add a single circle at the second beat Oops missed that one when fixing the kiai before done
02:09:126 (2) - Copy, paste after it, and flip it upside down and ctrl+g like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2542769 I didn't do this because that'd be too fast for beginner's intended difficulty, though it does look cool.

[Easy]
absolutely nothing to be angry at. great diff. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

[Normal]
00:33:126 (3,4,5) - Instead of doing this, do a hit circle, then a 1/2 beat slider, then another. That's really something that would fit better on the hard difficulty of this map imo.
00:50:269 (4,5) - End 3 a 1/2 beat early, and add a hit circle where the end of the slider would have been, then add a 1/2 reverse slider like so: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2542785 Deja vu I've seeen this suggestion before and I still don't like it. I'll leave it as it is.
01:04:669 (1,2,3,4) - Looks better as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2542797 I was a bit confused by this one before realizing you had ctrl+g'd 01:05:355 (2) - at which point I had to decide against it :'c... and try something else! c:
Rest is great, sorry I'm not modding alot, it's just a good map. S'alright

[Hard]
00:34:326 (8) - I suggest moving this a 1/2 beat after and putting a circle on the beginning of the slider as so: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2542831 I had it similar to that before and changed it because it didn't follow the vocals as well.
01:41:698 (6) - New combo much? Nope rule is new combo every 2 bars and then during kiai every bar
01:45:469 (8,9,1,2,3,4) - This is kind of an awkward shape. Make it circular with ctrl+shift+D... Symmetry with 01:40:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ..
01:53:012 (2,3) - This is the absolute lowest of lows you can go to in mapping. Move 3 to the beginning of 4... cant believe you did this XD Absolute lowest of lows? Sir I think you need to play my third map. Moved 01:53:012 (2) elsewhere instead.
01:57:812 (3,4,5,6) - Oh god same thing as above, move 4 and 5 to the beginning of 6...Hmm this doesn't quite feel right so no change here.
02:11:869 (1,2,3) - This isn't even a suggestion oh god this is great :33333 :3

guineaQ wrote:

Just super quick pointer

• 
  You applied whistle on slider body for these
  they sound pretty annoying on some skins/default skin. Please remove them. What if I use default skin and think they sound nice what then
  
  Beginner

1. 01:07:412 (1) - Okay
2. 02:00:898 (4) - I think this one goes into the music pretty well so I'll keep it ye.
3. 02:11:869 (1) - Okie dokie.
   
   Easy
4. 00:09:812 (4) - Alright
5. 00:22:155 (4) - I'll keep it since I think this also goes with the song pretty well probably.
6. 00:26:269 (1) - Okay
7. 00:33:126 (3) - A bright whistle to match a bright iiiiii
8. 00:45:469 (1) - Okay done
9. 01:00:555 (5) - Okay it sounds better without it.
10. 01:08:784 (2) - I'll keep this one it sounds empty without
11. 01:34:841 (4) - Okay
12. 01:48:555 (3) - Okay
13. 01:52:669 (2) - I'll keep this one it also sounds empty without
14. 02:06:384 (5,6) - Okay for consistency with the other Yellow's in this difficulty.
15. 02:11:869 (3) - I think I'll keep this one.
    
    Normal
16. 00:13:926 (3) - Keeping for whii
17. 00:16:669 (3) - Keeping for whoo
18. 00:19:412 (3) - Keeping for whaa
19. 00:22:155 (3) - This part of the song in every map I intend to keep the whistle there.
20. 00:34:498 (1) - A bright whistle to match a bright iiiiii
21. 00:51:641 (2) - Sure thing.
22. 01:01:241 (4) - Alrighters.
23. 01:09:126 (1) - Aye aye sir okay
24. 01:11:526 (1,2) - No
25. 01:36:212 (4) - Roger that
26. 01:43:755 (2) - Okay
27. 01:55:412 (4,5) - No thanks
28. 02:00:898 (1) - Task accomplished
29. 02:06:384 (1,2) - No I must protect the yellows
30. 02:10:498 (1,2) - Okie dokie makie donie
    
    Hard
31. 00:03:984 (6) - Beep=whistle
32. 00:06:726 (9) - Beep=whistle
33. 00:09:469 (10) - Beep=whistle
34. 00:24:726 (4,5) - Will keep
35. 00:26:269 (1) -Whistle removed succesfully
36. 00:27:469 (4,5) - Nah
37. 00:29:012 (1) - Sure thing
38. 00:30:212 (5) - Sure
39. 00:31:755 (1) - Operation completed
40. 00:34:326 (8) - A bright whistle for a bright iiii
41. 00:49:412 (6,7) - Keeping to attempt consistency with previous decisions.
42. 00:50:955 (1,2) - Maybe I'm a weirdo that likes the whistle but this sounds a bit empty without ;-;
43. 01:01:241 (7) - n-nh-nah
44. 01:05:355 (3) - Alright
45. 01:11:870 (3) - preserve the
46. 01:12:555 (6) - yellows
47. 01:32:098 (1,2) - Okay
48. 01:55:755 (3) - Preserve the
49. 01:56:441 (6) - Yellows
50. 01:58:326 (6) - Okay it sounds better without.
51. 02:02:955 (4) - Okay it sounds better without and allows the ear to be free and puts more of that emphasis on the yellows alright okay alright.
52. 02:06:726 (3) - Yellow
53. 02:07:412 (6) - Yellow

I am surprised that nobody caught these after 3 pages of mod. 4 now.

oh yeah
NO KDS FOR THE LOVE OF RNG
SHOOT I ACCIDENTALLY KDS what do do
I didn't mean to seriously I'm sorry ;__;
;__; I accdientally dlick there instead of byby cahan post and didn't even notice until now
Wahth do do
I don't know waht do do
panic
pancic
stress
continue panittc
so much panic I think I need to get off of osu for a bit and calm down before I cry or something from being a dorothy who probably worries too much
I'm surprised it took me this long to screw up and do something like this on accident panci anpanic plz edont' nhurt me

1. Check AiMod: Filesize of the mapset exceeds 24MB with video.
2. Beginner Diff is unnecessary imo

1. 00:34:326 (8) - Move to 00:34:498 and make it ends at 00:35:869
2. 01:01:241 (7) - Blanket well
3. 01:47:012 (6,7,8,9,10) - Change to 1/1+1/2 slider?
4. 02:02:784 (3,4) - Move 3 up a bit, 4 blanket well;
5. 02:08:784 (5,1) - Blanket well.

[Teichan] wrote:

Sorry for the delay It's okay it seems to be the week of month later mods and it makes me pretty happy #'w'#

[General]

1. Check AiMod: Filesize of the mapset exceeds 24MB with video. ;A;
2. Beginner Diff is unnecessary imo I can't tell if joking just because I asked please not to say that or if serious.
   
   I'm sorry I con't mod easy & normal.... Just give you some suggestions: make your sliders regular and neat, current version seems pretty random. ?
   
   [Hard]
   
   1. 00:34:326 (8) - Move to 00:34:498 and make it ends at 00:35:869 Many mods point this note out, but give different time suggestions for it.. >_< I'll leave it as is for now because it seems to be the closest as is.
   2. 01:01:241 (7) - Blanket well Ok tried to fix for the 7th time
   3. 01:47:012 (6,7,8,9,10) - Change to 1/1+1/2 slider? I don't think that would play the way I intended
   4. 02:02:784 (3,4) - Move 3 up a bit, 4 blanket well; It's not meant to be a blanket and would be super cramped if it were. I'll try something else to make it look better.
   5. 02:08:784 (5,1) - Blanket well. It's not supposed to blanket but this made me notice I broke kiai ds there thanks did something cool in its place.

I booom...我不会摸这图啊。。。

Faan wrote:

oh dear offset should've be 1583 the whole time, please dorothy
you might need to resnap all the notes and time lines
kds pls
/me runs

1. 2x Insane 100%
2. hitsounding 100%

Faan wrote:

n00b Best B-Day Present Ever

noob beginner:
00:04:326 (2) - move to 120,170 for butter blanket where's the bread. Done.
01:14:269 (1,2) - nazi blanket Fixe

wow 0.76* best diff

easy:
00:29:012 (1) - rotate 1 degree around selection center or naziblanket okay kk
01:43:069 (3,1) - little overlap Slider is now funkier because it was also overlappin with 01:41:698 (2) -

Noobmal:
00:20:441 (4,1,2) - naziblanketable Attempt made
01:53:698 - sounds like new note B| oops now there /is/ a new note.
01:58:326 (1) - maybe remove with the next one, I know it is a harder part any everything but. alrikay

Hard:
00:01:584 (1) - rhythmn kinda weird, maybe similiar to something like - http://puu.sh/eTki9/425f62f65f.jpg Tried something like that
00:05:012 (2,3) - this is a place where you might want to keep DS so it looks clean fix'id
00:34:326 (8) - move to the white tick after, add note here I give in to the most frequently suggested alternative orz
00:57:983 (7,8,9) - better triangle same as previous and after to looks neater, ignorable ?
02:07:926 (2) - DS issue, 108,97 for dem sake of neatness Oops fixed

colour suggestion: http://puu.sh/eTl3B/eef85b4d33.png suggestion gracefully rejected

bye
/me flies away

Kibbleru wrote:

pls dorothy, dont use yellow to reply to stuff, its so hard to read.

Exote wrote:

oko's Insane

00:34:498 (1) - A circle instead of the slider? ✘ i still like this slider
01:53:869 (5) - Move this circle a bit to the top right, to form a blanket with the slider before it. ✘ had it like this at first but ended up completely hating how it flows so it's this thing now asdkl;fj

WOLLEY

00:22:069 (8) - NC? ✘
00:22:155 (1) - Remove NC? ✘
00:23:098 (10) - Here NC too? ✘ the even 1 downbeat comboing tho
00:34:498 (1) - Welp I'll be pointing it out again, I think that this slider doesn't sound good, for the sake of the map, put a circle instead~ ✘ i actually grew to like this slidererer
01:56:784 (1) - Ctrl+V, and instead of the following slider, ctrl+H,J this one, flows better. ✔ i might not have gotten exactly what you wanted but i think i did something taht works

Overall this is it. Remember that I'm not a pro modder, I only said my thoughts about the map. Anyway good luck!

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109,110,117984,1,0,0:0:0:0:
275,25,118155,6,0,L|396:30,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
435,174,118498,1,4,0:0:0:0:
341,296,118669,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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439,178,119184,1,4,0:0:0:0:
330,222,119355,1,8,0:0:0:0:
232,154,119526,5,8,0:0:0:0:
105,170,119698,1,8,0:0:0:0:
177,260,119869,1,12,0:0:0:0:
173,100,120041,1,8,0:0:0:0:
165,68,120126,1,8,0:0:0:0:
145,42,120212,1,8,0:0:0:0:
17,85,120384,1,8,0:0:0:0:
12,214,120555,1,12,0:0:0:0:
149,46,120726,1,8,0:0:0:0:
186,53,120811,1,8,0:0:0:0:
223,50,120897,5,8,0:0:0:0:
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297,39,121068,1,8,0:0:0:0:
334,41,121154,1,8,0:0:0:0:
370,51,121241,2,0,B|390:93|390:93|397:152,1,93.5000028533936,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,316,121584,1,8,0:0:0:0:
240,279,121669,1,8,0:0:0:0:
239,233,121755,1,8,0:0:0:0:
265,195,121841,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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377,30,123298,1,4,0:0:0:0:
244,187,123469,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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302,114,124669,1,4,0:0:0:0:
145,191,124841,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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100,156,126555,1,0,0:0:0:0:
67,328,126726,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,124,126898,1,0,0:0:0:0:
290,290,127069,1,8,0:0:0:0:
96,152,127241,1,0,0:0:0:0:
330,207,127412,1,4,0:0:0:0:
181,324,127584,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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54,134,128441,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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Exote wrote:

Sh*t forgot to mention this xD so, Hi! NM from my queue. Hi there ovo/ !

Beginner

00:23:526 (1,2) - I personally think that those two wavy sliders could be replaced with those instead. I don't think the music here calls for sharp sliders
00:29:012 (1) - Curve the slider a little bit like this so you can get a better blanket, that's right, blankets rule. Improved blanket for the greatness of blanketingness!
00:31:755 (2) - Perhaps you could remove the whistle from this slider, I don't see the point of it. That was a leftover I missed when taking the whistle hitsound off of the slider ghjkl thank you
00:48:212 (2) - If you make this slider look like this , it flows better imo. I see that makes sense alright.
01:34:841 (1) - I also think that this clap on the beginning of the slider doesn't sound good. I think it's better the way it is than having no clap at the start and a clap at a end here

Easy

00:18:726 (1) - Consider removing this clap, doesn't sound right. Removing that one doesn't sound quite right either so tried something else ovo
00:55:755 (6) - Move this circle down one time, so it could form a better triangle pattern. Down? one time? A pixel? A grid space? ? ? ?
01:58:155 (3) - Straighten this slider like this, so you could get a better looking blanket. Fixed I think

Normal

00:07:755 (2) - Make this slider like this. I rather like the current slider
00:34:498 (1) - Put a circle instead of this slider, doesn't really sound good. ? I don't think a circle would be better than the slider.
The last two kiai-timed parts, the spacing there looks a bit of a much for a normal difficulty, that's at least what I think. ;;

Hard

00:20:784 (1,2) - Those two sliders look a bit loose, don't ya think? Curve them a bit, like this. They're meant to be loose? ovo;
00:24:726 (4,5,6,7,8) - Instead of these elements, try making something like that, looks and sounds better imo. That doesn't sound right to me so no change
00:26:784 (2) - Remove clap? Moved clap
00:29:526 (2) - ^ Moved clap
00:34:498 (9) - A circle instead of this slider and place it here? Again, sounds better. A single hit for a held note like that in the vocals doesn't sit well with me so I'll leave it as is.
01:01:241 (7) - You can make this slider like this, flows and looks better. Am I the only one that thinks that'd look kind of strange
01:14:269 (1) - Remove the clap from the end of this slider. Okay fixed
01:33:469 (5,6,7) - Here, form a blanket like this. They already do their own kind of leading in and out of blanket but I've gone and improved that set up now hopefully.
I heard some random claps throughout the whole hard, but don't really think they are a big problem. ;A;?

Overall this is it. Remember that I'm not a pro modder, I only said my thoughts about the map. Anyway good luck! Thanks and good luck to you too!

Erina wrote:

Hey!!~~ From my mod for voice queue~ Does this mean I get to sing soon ヽ(‘ ∇‘ )ノ

Some suggestions~~~

[General]

1. AIMod seems to show some errors, not sure if they need to be fixed or not though. Last time I centle (cent as in 100 + le like in triple and double this word works right?) checked they seemed ok.
2. Consider reducing hitsound volume in the intro (up to 00:12:555), maybe down to 50%? Excellent idea

[Hard]

1. Consider applying whistles on just the slider heads rather than the slider bodies like at 00:27:469 (4,5) - . Then you can apply the whistle sound to more areas of the song (like at 00:30:212 (5,6) - ), making the hitsounds much more consistent. Whiistlesss
2. The hitsound comments are suggestions, I honestly don't know much about hitsounds and suck at them myself, so yeah those are just my two cents :3 All help is appreciated help 'w'
3. 00:13:241 (2) - Consider putting middle point on this slider to 256/312, looks better/more blanket-like Okie dokie that's quite nice
4. 00:48:555 (2,3,4) - I feel like this rhythm works better: http://puu.sh/f6swl/848f350142.jpg After much thought I've decided against it, preferring the current rhythm.
5. 00:50:955 (1,2) - Whistles here sound kinda obnoxious considering how you used them only a second ago. I feel like you should find a consistent place in each melody to put whistles. Ah I had whistles at other similar parts of the song before removing some with guineaQ's mod, and must have messed up in consistency in my decision making. I've removed these two now.
6. 01:32:098 (1,2,3) - Consider changing rhythm to be like this: http://puu.sh/f6t01/645faf770d.jpg it follows the vocals more accurately (its like what you did here 01:37:584 (1,2,3) - ) Ooh that's cool alright done-dity done 'v'
7. 01:36:212 (6) - Try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/f6uAT/ddeb2a5320.jpg I feel like it matches up better with the vocals (ki-ii) Tried it out but I think I prefer the current set up;
8. 01:40:497 (2,3,4,5) - Consider making this and subsequent patterns into perfect squares, as that would look better (Compose -> Create Polygon Circles is really helpful if you didn't know already) Not done yet but will be done hopefully as soon as conscious again /o/
   
   For more consistent hitsounding (matching patterns like 01:07:412 (1,2,3,4,5) - )
9. 01:51:298 (1) - Remove clap from end of this Ok ovob
10. 01:51:641 (2) - Add clap to head Alright ouob
11. 01:52:326 (5) - Add clap Sounds like a lot of claps-
12. 01:52:155 (4,6) - Remove claps Oh I see now okay got it done.
    You don't have to follow this exactly, but the hitsounds on that part currently sound kinda awkward. Try matching it up to your other patterns like at 01:07:412. I did because I'm just poor at keeping track of / checking my own patterns thank you quq
    
    
13. 01:53:355 (4,3) - oooo this is cool Yaay :>
14. 01:57:812 (3,4,5) - Having all three stacked together doesn't give proper emphasis on the 5th circle (which has a hitsound on it too). Consider moving 5 out to 296/184, 6 to 360/128, and 7 to 280/104. Tried something else instead /o/
15. 02:04:326 (3) - Maybe add drum clap at head? Ah how did I miss that one okay fixed ovo/
16. 02:05:355 (2) - Add clap? Similar to 01:54:384 (3) - Okay cool ouo/

[Normal]

1. 01:09:126 (1) - Feels weird, like you're missing something. Consider this rhythm: http://puu.sh/f6Yfb/3ad40c4b74.jpg I considered it but I'd want to keep the long slider if possible to help with the easing into kiai sv and with how it bounces to the beat ♪♪
2. 01:40:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern is great :3 (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ It's so well liked with it's beauty and symmetry what joy this gives me thank you
3. 01:54:041 (1,2,3) - This looks better imo if you move the middle tick of 1 to 112/138 That's already where it is though, 2 to 176/272, and 3 to 280/360 (blanket between 1 and 2 Oh I see I'll fix 1 to become a blanket myself then ovo, triangle between 2-3-4) Alright done /o/ This is a very cool set up now woa
4. 01:58:498 (1) - Consider copying 01:58:498 (4) - but Ctrl+H, and move it to 304/144, then move the next slider to form a blanket with 4. 01:58:498 (4) - and 01:58:498 (1) - are giving the same time I'm confused who is this mysterious 4 Ah yes talked with you about this mystery in PM but instead of making the 01:58:498 (1) - do a thing with with 01:57:812 (3) - I think I'll fix the intended symmetry between these two 01:56:784 (1,3) -

[Easy]

1. Some of the NCs in the chorus part don't seem consistent.
2. I'll NC mod the chorus parts, and you can decide whether or not you want to apply it~
3. 01:10:155 (3,1) - Switch NCs Ok
4. 01:13:584 (2,1) - Switch NCs Okie
5. 01:15:641 (2) - Add NC Okie dokie
6. 01:54:041 (1) - Add NC Okay
7. 01:55:412 (3) - Remove NC Alright
8. 01:59:526 (4) - Add NC Kay
9. 02:05:012 (4) - Add NC Alrikay
   I feel like these emphasis the beginning of a new melodic phrase better, but it's up to you of course!~ Fixed all of the NCs in the chorus parts as you suggested thank you 'w'
   
   Didn't really notice anything else about this map. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

Not gonna comment on Beginner because I don't think I have anything useful to contribute :< I'll take that as a good comment in itself hehe

Nice map, and really catchy song! I'll contact you later so we can confirm what you're singing :3 (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ Alright I'll be waiting

aaaaaand right after I post I also realize that there's another difficulty to this map that I didn't see. rip, i'll take a look at it and mod it later. It's like looking for food just to realize you've been holding it the entire time

osupls

i swear to god why does this keep happening the next thing i know the sliders in the map start disappearing and then osu just force quits why peppy WHY BECAUSE CIRCLE CLICKING qaq