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Yuzu's and Sellen's
Waiting for KwaN
Went through my Insane and Yuzu's Insane in-game with Pho
Concerns 4 Yuzu:
00:22:271 (3,4) - those are snapped incorrectly yes, should be in 1/2
00:27:604 (3,4,1) - those are snapped incorrectly yes, should be in 1/2
Extended slider problems, these sliders concerns him the most.
00:33:382 (5) - that is also 1/2 (http://puu.sh/eb5CJ/e6bc6eb549.jpg)
01:04:103 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stream for Chorus ? overmap ?
01:29:353 (2) - and 00:51:937 (5) - make soft-samples on the ends
Yuzu's and Sellen's
Waiting for KwaN
Went through my Insane and Yuzu's Insane in-game with Pho
SPOILER
15:59 Aerous: Hey Pho are you busy right now?
15:59 *Pho is away: imouto-chan
15:59 Aerous: ok
16:01 Pho: i just came back from imoute-chan lol
16:01 Pho: sup
16:02 Aerous: I asked Rakuen about Liar Mask , he said I should bug new BATs for a look at the whole mapset
16:02 Aerous: can you take a look at the whole mapset?
16:02 Aerous: If you can't then its fine , since you looked at it before
16:03 Pho: i took already lol. welp i didn't have any problems with your other GD's in that set (maybe some pattern decisions from captin but ugh it plays well)
16:04 Aerous: so just Captin's pattern is bothering you and thats it?
16:04 Pho: the only problem are the weird snapping in your insane and yuzhuriha's /extended sliders
16:04 Pho: it's actually these insanes
16:04 Aerous: well i remapped/fixed all of my problem in my insane
16:04 Aerous: wait
16:04 Aerous: can you state one problem in my insane?
16:05 Pho: gimme a sec, i want to go wash my clothes first hue
16:05 Aerous: oh right, i have to do my laundry too
16:05 Aerous: brb
16:10 Aerous: k im back
16:13 Pho: sry, my english. allright let me see
16:16 Pho: aah, you changed some rhythms nice
16:16 Aerous:
16:17 Aerous: I'
16:17 Aerous: I'm just scared of the 1/3 snappigns
16:19 Pho: yup, the spacing decisions are kind of odd to me
16:19 Pho: 00:18:271 (2,3,1) - why you space 2-3 higher than 3-1?
16:19 Aerous: well for sliders i kinda like higher spacing
16:20 Aerous: i might lower it to like 1.9x if it bothers you
16:20 Pho: lower spacing would be good yup
16:21 Aerous: kk , http://puu.sh/eawe9/ed5b154ecd.jpg
16:22 Pho: allright
16:23 Pho: 00:21:604 (1) - i'm not sure about this either cuz it ends on nothing. i might be wrong tho
16:24 Aerous: uh , it should be okay since I crossed checked with captin's diff.
16:24 Aerous: but he didn't use a slider , he used a circle instead
16:26 Pho: a circle would have probably been a better choice here. the problem is that this slider doesn't seem to follow anything in the track
16:27 Aerous: so if i add a circle
16:27 Aerous: stack it on 6?
16:27 Pho: welp, it follows the vocal but hmm... extending the slider would have been better here
16:27 Aerous: extending number 6?
16:28 Pho: 00:21:604 (1) -
16:28 Aerous: extending it?
16:28 Aerous: 1/3 snapped?
16:28 Pho: no, 1/4
16:29 Aerous: wait
16:29 Aerous: can i make a long repeat slider?
16:30 Aerous: like 00:16:271 -
16:30 Pho: no
16:30 Pho: 00:21:937 - 00:22:271 - you would miss out these
16:31 Aerous: well , this http://puu.sh/eaxDl/6b82aa3afb.jpg
16:31 Pho: in an insane, you want to hit almost all vital strong beats
16:31 Aerous: yea
16:31 Aerous: tru
16:35 Aerous: does this work ? the flow feels weird http://puu.sh/eayb3/2050a2f05c.jpg
16:36 Pho: yup
16:37 Aerous: wait here , http://puu.sh/eaynr/8697634351.jpg and http://puu.sh/eaypH/6d57dfe60b.jpg
16:37 Aerous: i moved the 4
16:38 Pho: both patterns work. i prefer the previous one because there isn't that sharp-flow jump between 3-4
16:40 Aerous: do i need to move 4?
16:40 Pho: not needed
16:40 Aerous: I kinda moved it to here , http://puu.sh/eayNV/30282e53bd.jpg
16:40 Aerous: o
16:40 Aerous: k
16:40 Pho: that depends on your style, really
16:41 Pho: i generally dislike 'forced' sharp angles
16:41 Pho: while it's fine for otheres
16:41 Aerous: kk
16:42 Aerous: also
16:42 Aerous: 00:22:771 -
16:42 Aerous: theres a sound here
16:42 Aerous: I mapped this sound before
16:42 Aerous: 00:17:437 -
16:43 Aerous: should I add it on 00:22:771 - to keep it consistent?
16:43 Pho: you can't really talk about consistency here anymore, these are two different sections already
16:44 Aerous: mhm
16:44 Aerous: kk
16:44 Aerous: I'll just leave it as it is
16:44 Pho: but 00:22:604 (4) - is a problem. why did you put it in here?
16:44 Aerous: uh
16:44 Aerous: I don't remember , but I think its one of the mods
16:45 Aerous: well i put it there , since there was a faint sound
16:47 Aerous: instead of a circle , a 1/4 slider?
16:47 Aerous: http://puu.sh/eazOd/be33539223.jpg
16:47 Aerous: for 4
16:47 Pho: if it was a faint sound, then making it a slider would be a wiser choice. circles generally put strong emphasis on strong beats represented in the music. and i don't think you need a circle here
16:47 Aerous: mhm
16:47 Aerous: Yea slider is better
16:47 Aerous: Here : http://puu.sh/eazUd/922680a685.jpg added
16:50 Pho: yup
16:50 Pho: it's not unrankable, but this improves quality--- uh i guess lol
16:57 Aerous: wait for yuzu's extended sliders , is it unrankable or you just don't like the style?
16:58 Pho: i'd say unrankable
16:58 Aerous: mhm
16:58 Pho: but i'm gonna consult some a BAT and maybe QAT about it
16:59 Aerous: i was wondering why CB didn't say anything about it
16:59 Aerous: even in Xinely's and Flask's mod
17:00 Pho: every BAT thinks different and everyone has different opinions on whether a certain rhythm follows the music well or not
17:00 Pho: and extended sliders are a pretty dangerous game element imo
17:00 Aerous: mhm
17:01 Pho: 00:22:271 (3,4) - 00:27:604 (3,4,1) -
17:01 Pho: these are my greatest concerns
17:01 Pho: in his/her diff
17:02 Pho: also 00:33:382 (5) - . is this new?
17:02 Aerous: yea it is
17:02 Pho: it starts on no beat in the music
17:03 Aerous: Can you post it on the forum ? He/She might change it , maybe
17:04 Aerous: oh
17:04 Aerous: theres
17:04 Aerous: like a little piano
17:04 Aerous: sound in it
17:04 Aerous: but its super faint
17:04 Pho: only at 00:33:493 -
17:05 Aerous: ehh
17:05 Aerous: yea ill tell yuzu that through pm
17:06 Pho: 01:04:103 (1,2,3,4,5) - also this overmap >< i think this is debatable
17:08 Aerous: that should be okay , i think
17:08 Aerous: ill message though
17:08 Aerous: uh
17:08 Aerous: anything else on Yuzu's?
17:11 Pho: 01:29:353 (2) - 00:51:937 (5) - tell him to make soft-samples on these ends
17:12 Aerous: kk
17:19 Aerous: Nothing else ? I'll message him then.
15:59 *Pho is away: imouto-chan
15:59 Aerous: ok
16:01 Pho: i just came back from imoute-chan lol
16:01 Pho: sup
16:02 Aerous: I asked Rakuen about Liar Mask , he said I should bug new BATs for a look at the whole mapset
16:02 Aerous: can you take a look at the whole mapset?
16:02 Aerous: If you can't then its fine , since you looked at it before
16:03 Pho: i took already lol. welp i didn't have any problems with your other GD's in that set (maybe some pattern decisions from captin but ugh it plays well)
16:04 Aerous: so just Captin's pattern is bothering you and thats it?
16:04 Pho: the only problem are the weird snapping in your insane and yuzhuriha's /extended sliders
16:04 Pho: it's actually these insanes
16:04 Aerous: well i remapped/fixed all of my problem in my insane
16:04 Aerous: wait
16:04 Aerous: can you state one problem in my insane?
16:05 Pho: gimme a sec, i want to go wash my clothes first hue
16:05 Aerous: oh right, i have to do my laundry too
16:05 Aerous: brb
16:10 Aerous: k im back
16:13 Pho: sry, my english. allright let me see
16:16 Pho: aah, you changed some rhythms nice
16:16 Aerous:
16:17 Aerous: I'
16:17 Aerous: I'm just scared of the 1/3 snappigns
16:19 Pho: yup, the spacing decisions are kind of odd to me
16:19 Pho: 00:18:271 (2,3,1) - why you space 2-3 higher than 3-1?
16:19 Aerous: well for sliders i kinda like higher spacing
16:20 Aerous: i might lower it to like 1.9x if it bothers you
16:20 Pho: lower spacing would be good yup
16:21 Aerous: kk , http://puu.sh/eawe9/ed5b154ecd.jpg
16:22 Pho: allright
16:23 Pho: 00:21:604 (1) - i'm not sure about this either cuz it ends on nothing. i might be wrong tho
16:24 Aerous: uh , it should be okay since I crossed checked with captin's diff.
16:24 Aerous: but he didn't use a slider , he used a circle instead
16:26 Pho: a circle would have probably been a better choice here. the problem is that this slider doesn't seem to follow anything in the track
16:27 Aerous: so if i add a circle
16:27 Aerous: stack it on 6?
16:27 Pho: welp, it follows the vocal but hmm... extending the slider would have been better here
16:27 Aerous: extending number 6?
16:28 Pho: 00:21:604 (1) -
16:28 Aerous: extending it?
16:28 Aerous: 1/3 snapped?
16:28 Pho: no, 1/4
16:29 Aerous: wait
16:29 Aerous: can i make a long repeat slider?
16:30 Aerous: like 00:16:271 -
16:30 Pho: no
16:30 Pho: 00:21:937 - 00:22:271 - you would miss out these
16:31 Aerous: well , this http://puu.sh/eaxDl/6b82aa3afb.jpg
16:31 Pho: in an insane, you want to hit almost all vital strong beats
16:31 Aerous: yea
16:31 Aerous: tru
16:35 Aerous: does this work ? the flow feels weird http://puu.sh/eayb3/2050a2f05c.jpg
16:36 Pho: yup
16:37 Aerous: wait here , http://puu.sh/eaynr/8697634351.jpg and http://puu.sh/eaypH/6d57dfe60b.jpg
16:37 Aerous: i moved the 4
16:38 Pho: both patterns work. i prefer the previous one because there isn't that sharp-flow jump between 3-4
16:40 Aerous: do i need to move 4?
16:40 Pho: not needed
16:40 Aerous: I kinda moved it to here , http://puu.sh/eayNV/30282e53bd.jpg
16:40 Aerous: o
16:40 Aerous: k
16:40 Pho: that depends on your style, really
16:41 Pho: i generally dislike 'forced' sharp angles
16:41 Pho: while it's fine for otheres
16:41 Aerous: kk
16:42 Aerous: also
16:42 Aerous: 00:22:771 -
16:42 Aerous: theres a sound here
16:42 Aerous: I mapped this sound before
16:42 Aerous: 00:17:437 -
16:43 Aerous: should I add it on 00:22:771 - to keep it consistent?
16:43 Pho: you can't really talk about consistency here anymore, these are two different sections already
16:44 Aerous: mhm
16:44 Aerous: kk
16:44 Aerous: I'll just leave it as it is
16:44 Pho: but 00:22:604 (4) - is a problem. why did you put it in here?
16:44 Aerous: uh
16:44 Aerous: I don't remember , but I think its one of the mods
16:45 Aerous: well i put it there , since there was a faint sound
16:47 Aerous: instead of a circle , a 1/4 slider?
16:47 Aerous: http://puu.sh/eazOd/be33539223.jpg
16:47 Aerous: for 4
16:47 Pho: if it was a faint sound, then making it a slider would be a wiser choice. circles generally put strong emphasis on strong beats represented in the music. and i don't think you need a circle here
16:47 Aerous: mhm
16:47 Aerous: Yea slider is better
16:47 Aerous: Here : http://puu.sh/eazUd/922680a685.jpg added
16:50 Pho: yup
16:50 Pho: it's not unrankable, but this improves quality--- uh i guess lol
16:57 Aerous: wait for yuzu's extended sliders , is it unrankable or you just don't like the style?
16:58 Pho: i'd say unrankable
16:58 Aerous: mhm
16:58 Pho: but i'm gonna consult some a BAT and maybe QAT about it
16:59 Aerous: i was wondering why CB didn't say anything about it
16:59 Aerous: even in Xinely's and Flask's mod
17:00 Pho: every BAT thinks different and everyone has different opinions on whether a certain rhythm follows the music well or not
17:00 Pho: and extended sliders are a pretty dangerous game element imo
17:00 Aerous: mhm
17:01 Pho: 00:22:271 (3,4) - 00:27:604 (3,4,1) -
17:01 Pho: these are my greatest concerns
17:01 Pho: in his/her diff
17:02 Pho: also 00:33:382 (5) - . is this new?
17:02 Aerous: yea it is
17:02 Pho: it starts on no beat in the music
17:03 Aerous: Can you post it on the forum ? He/She might change it , maybe
17:04 Aerous: oh
17:04 Aerous: theres
17:04 Aerous: like a little piano
17:04 Aerous: sound in it
17:04 Aerous: but its super faint
17:04 Pho: only at 00:33:493 -
17:05 Aerous: ehh
17:05 Aerous: yea ill tell yuzu that through pm
17:06 Pho: 01:04:103 (1,2,3,4,5) - also this overmap >< i think this is debatable
17:08 Aerous: that should be okay , i think
17:08 Aerous: ill message though
17:08 Aerous: uh
17:08 Aerous: anything else on Yuzu's?
17:11 Pho: 01:29:353 (2) - 00:51:937 (5) - tell him to make soft-samples on these ends
17:12 Aerous: kk
17:19 Aerous: Nothing else ? I'll message him then.
Concerns 4 Yuzu:
00:22:271 (3,4) - those are snapped incorrectly yes, should be in 1/2
00:27:604 (3,4,1) - those are snapped incorrectly yes, should be in 1/2
Extended slider problems, these sliders concerns him the most.
00:33:382 (5) - that is also 1/2 (http://puu.sh/eb5CJ/e6bc6eb549.jpg)
01:04:103 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stream for Chorus ? overmap ?
01:29:353 (2) - and 00:51:937 (5) - make soft-samples on the ends