xxdeathx wrote:

Some quality improvements you should take note of:

[General]

1. Among the insanes, the OD difficulty settings should have a better spread. Aerous's insane is the easiest insane but it has higher OD than Yuzu's Insane which is OD7. I suggest OD 7.0-7.5-8.0 for Aerous-Yuzu-captin. At the very least, a lower difficulty shouldn't have higher OD than a higher difficulty. I'll change it if Yuzu changes to 7.5
2. Two spaces between TV and Sellenite in tags Changed
3. Consider adding "agk" to tags Added
4. Gap between normal and hard may be of some concern.

[Easy]

1. 00:41:270 (2) - Curve the other way for better transition between 00:40:270 (1,2) -
2. 00:53:603 (3) - ^
3. 01:08:269 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved.
4. 01:15:603 (1) - Highly recommend using 1/2 slider here so there is a 1/1 gap between it and the next object, plus it follows vocals better.

Changed all of them

[Insane]
This diff I feel could improve its object placement somewhat.

1. 00:01:482 (1,2,3) - Why don't you make the sliders the exact same shape to be more aesthetically pleasing? Replace (3) by copying/pasting (1) and flipping it vertically, then move (2) so it's equally between both. Changed
   
   SPOILER

   
2. 00:07:862 (1,4) - Make these congruent (same shape) too.Changed
3. 00:11:262 (1) - Not mapping this section and using a spinner instead looks lazy, it's quite easy to put five 1/1 circles here or something. Changed
4. 00:17:604 (1,4) - These could be the same shape as well. Changed
5. 00:21:493 - How about insert a circle here to follow vocals. No Changed
6. 00:24:160 - ^ No Change
7. 00:25:604 (1,2) - same shape Changed
8. 00:26:937 (4) - Make this repeat and delete (5) since (5) ends on nothing Changed
9. 00:29:604 (4) - This should curve the other way for a better transition between 00:29:271 (3,4) - Changed
10. 00:30:104 (1,3) - Swap NC, the slider is where the slow timing section begins. Changed
11. 00:32:826 (8) - Overmapped since there is nothing present in the music Changed
12. 00:33:604 (1,2) - Having the slider end on the white tick 00:33:937 actually sounds weird because there's nothing on it. I'd just extend the slider to where the circle is. Changed
13. 00:34:937 (4) - The spacing looks identical to both objects around this, because of the illusion created when 00:35:160 (5,6,7) - is pointed kind of towards the previous objects. Try to have the triplet point away from (4) Changed
14. 00:36:271 (1,3) - Have these angled the same (both horizontal for example). Changed
15. 00:38:271 (1) - This fits the music better as a curved slider imo. Changed
16. 00:40:270 (1,2) - Why don't you put the circle in the slider's path?Changed
17. 00:41:937 (7,1) - You should put a bigger jump here than 00:41:270 (5,6,7) - to emphasize the slightly stronger vocal that's on the downbeat. Changed
18. 00:43:270 (5) - Same here, and it plays better if it's rotated horizontal: Changed
    
    SPOILER

    
19. 00:44:270 (1) - Don't like this slider shape, since it's not symmetrical or otherwise pretty. You could add some curves: Changed
    
    SPOILER

    
20. 00:45:270 (2,1) - Make them curved the same. Changed
21. 00:49:270 (3) - Keep it consistent with 00:48:270 (1,2) - , use the same objects for both. Changed
22. 00:51:604 (5) - I was expecting this to be a 1/2 slider followed by another one after, not something this slow, since the placement makes it look like you're gonna have two 1/2 sliders here. It's best to use two 1/2 sliders instead.Changed
23. 00:54:270 (1) - Completely personal opinion, but you should try to have a little fun with this slider because of the sound it's mapping. Make it really twisty and stuff. Changed
    
    SPOILER

    
24. 00:54:936 (1,2) - Make them congruent/similarly amount of curve since they correspond in the same measure. Changed
25. 00:55:936 (5,1) - Doesn't flow well, try flipping the slider both horizontally and vertically. No Change
26. 00:57:436 (6,1) - Same thing as I said earlier about 00:41:937 (7,1) Changed
27. 00:59:603 (5) - Curve this the other way so it flows better from 00:59:436 (4) - (don't forget to change 00:59:936 (6) - ) Changed
28. 01:05:603 - Don't use a slider end on a long white tick downbeat. It's a really strong vocal so you should definitely have a circle or slider head there so the player can press a key. Changed
29. 01:06:769 (1) - This is okay because the strong vocal is on 01:06:769 and the downbeat has nothing, but the one above isn't the same case.
30. 01:10:269 (7) - You should be aware that the stream continues until 01:10:603. Changed
31. In any case, if you don't decide to follow the entire stream, I'd highly recommend you delete 01:10:603 (8) - and have 01:10:769 (1) - stack on the end of 01:10:269 (7) - for a tactical 1/1 stack. No Change
32. 01:12:769 (4) - Again, don't start a slider on a red tick and end it on the white tick if the strong vocal is on the white tick. Start it on the white tick.
33. 01:13:603 (1) - A transition like this would play better (be sure to change the objects that come after) Changed
    
    SPOILER

    
34. 01:15:603 (3,1) - Similar to what I said about 01:10:769 (1) , it would make sense to stack 01:16:103 (1) - on the slider end of 01:15:603 (3) - Changed
35. 01:17:769 (3) - Same thing as I said about 01:12:769 (4) Change
36. 01:19:769 (3) - NC here and remove NC on 01:20:269 (1) - to indicate 3/4 rhythm No Change/color]
37. 01:21:103 (5,1) - Same with these. I'm not too good at using NC's to deal with irregular rhythms, so hopefully someone else has a better idea.
38. 01:18:936 - From here on out the objects are placed extremely haphazardly, even though it looks like you were going for squares most of the time. Even if you weren't, you really should or otherwise find some organization for these objects.
39. 01:18:936 (1,2) - Same x coordinate Changed
40. 01:19:436 (2,1) - Same y coordinateChanged
41. 01:19:769 (1,2) - Same x coordinateChanged
42. 01:20:019 (2,3) - y coordinateChanged
43. 01:20:269 (3) - Make completely straightChange
44. 01:20:269 (3,4) - y coordinateChanged
45. 01:21:103 (5,6) - x coordinate or make the triangle 01:21:103 (5,6,1) - neaterChanged
46. 01:23:103 - Make the player press a key on this noteChanged
47. 01:22:769 (1,3) - Same curvingChanged
48. 01:24:436 (9,1) - Swap NC fits betterChanged
49. 01:25:436 (4,6) - Get rid of overlap Changed
50. 01:26:436 (7,1) - Same thing about NC's as I said earlier about irregular rhythms No Change
51. 01:27:769 (3,1) - ^No Change

xxdeathx wrote:

Some quality improvements you should take note of:

[-Yuzu's Insane]

1. 00:03:082 (4) - Consider making this object the same shape as either 00:01:482 (1) - or 00:03:882 (5) - chenge
   
2. 00:07:082 (1) - I'd much rather end it at 00:07:482 to follow vocals (but keep 00:07:862 (1) - stacked on the end) No chenge I think fit behind sound
   
   
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3. 00:11:862 (3,4) - Circles fit the music better and keep it consistent with 00:11:062 (1,2) - . 3/4 sliders feel out of place too this early. No chenge

I thought better of the slider's appropriate


Most diffs are fine, but as you can see, the Insane needs a lot of work in my opinion.

xxdeathx wrote:

Please explain things you didn't want to change properly, as captin and kwan have done. "No change" isn't an adequate response.

Rakuen wrote:

As requested to mod Insane diff!

Legend

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

Insane

1. 00:12:262 (3) - Could make it a copy of 00:11:462 (1) - and place near of it. Or at least Ctrl+G for (3) would fit better in flow
   I CTRL + G for 3 , and didn't do anything else for this
2. 00:16:104 (5) - Just to inform that the vocal is at 00:16:160 - cuz it's kinda blank at where the circle is
   I moved it to where you asked me to
3. 00:21:437 (6) - ^ same for this at 00:21:493 -
   Same here , I moved it
   
4. 01:15:269 (2,3) - Any other placement? I like the flow of 01:14:103 (2,3,4)I added a circle here 01:14:936 on top of the slider and 01:15:436 double note into a slider http://puu.sh/dwey9/04d2102629.jpg -

Looks pretty good
:D Thanks for modding

guineaQ wrote:

I'll throw in a mod on insane since it got remapped later today.

You know what let me do it right now

I don't really remember what the previous insane was like since I didn't mod it lol so I can't really say whether this was a right choice or not

I'm just gonna point out general points (BATs are supposed to help you :<)
00:14:938 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - It feels really awkward to mix 1/3 slider rhythm and 1/2 circle rhythm. If Oracle asks me to change it I will , for now I'll consider about it
00:30:271 (1) - this SV decrease is a bit too much, 0.5x would be better Changed to what you said, but to 0.40

you might wanna take a good look at the parts before the chorus since they are 1/3.
I'll take a look later , but for now it looks good in my opinion.

NO KDS

EDIT: IF IT'S NECESSARY, I'll gladly throw in a full mod for insane.

CDFA wrote:

Gonna re-mod insane and re-check the other stuff.

Insane:
00:18:937 (4) - This jumps is VERY weird, because the direction of my mouse is going to the right, but then I'm jerking to the left.
changed the slider 3 to the left a bit compared to before where it was going to the right.

00:36:271 (1,2,1,2,3) - Not a fan of how this spacing is all the same but the timing is all over the place.
Changed the spacing by moving 00:36;937 higher and the next slider with higher DS. The next few notes i increased the distance too. http://puu.sh/dxOfm/fbe17ec129.jpg and http://puu.sh/dxOhh/822e04a918.jpg


Yay. I can go ahead and rebubble afterwards.

Gaia wrote:

I'll agree with Guinea about 00:30:271 (1) - cuz i think 0.9 -> 0.4x sv is kinda a big drop, even 0.5x is kinda pushing it tbh
also consider ending that slider at around 00:30:854 - cuz that's when the guitar ends and there is no sound at 00:30:604
I changed SV to 0.55x and didnt change where it ended since i looked into the other ranked liar masks and they end at the same time.


@Inori's insane plz help my ocd and stack 00:42:270 (1) - on (126, 266)


no kds ofc otherwise somebody will ninja desu gun at denying again

Gaia wrote:

I'll agree with Guinea about 00:30:271 (1) - cuz i think 0.9 -> 0.4x sv is kinda a big drop, even 0.5x is kinda pushing it tbh
also consider ending that slider at around 00:30:854 - cuz that's when the guitar ends and there is no sound at 00:30:604



@Inori's insane plz help my ocd and stack 00:42:270 (1) - on (126, 266)

OK thanks


no kds ofc otherwise somebody will ninja desu gun at denying again

Setsurei wrote:

used the same link with p/3473466 / p/3473573

http://www.mayamarika.com/artist/mayama ... /DFCL-2098

the title suddenly changed into:
Liar Mask（anime size ver.）

o_o

I saw so many Liar Mask sets, however I'm too lazy to inform them all,
so BATs, please do so when bubbling / qualifying lol

Lanturn wrote:

You'll be fine with either or really. Just point to the one you used since we don't have a priority system. There aren't any scans yet either to help one or the other. Knowing Sony though, they'll pull an IGNITE on us and have two different official titles lol.

Anime official website: Liar Mask anime size
http://akame.tv/cd.html

Publisher Official Website: Liar Mask（anime size ver.）
http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/artist/mayam ... /DFCL-2098

Artist Official Website: Liar Mask（anime size ver.）
http://www.mayamarika.com/artist/mayama ... /DFCL-2098

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Recheck

Easy

1. 00:04:282 (4) - inconsistent spacing with 00:02:682 (2) -
2. 00:41:270 (2) - same ^

call me back.

1. Several issues in snapping throughout the Insane difficulties:
   
   • 
     Insane

   1. 00:15:438 (2) - Should be snapped to the following 1/3-Tick.
   2. 00:18:271 (2) - Tail should be snapped to 1/3.
   3. 00:23:937 (4) - ^
   4. 00:26:604 (3) - ^
   5. 00:30:937 (1,2) - Should be snapped like 00:33:604 (1,2) - .
   6. 00:31:604 (3,4) - This should follow 1/3 like this to be accurate.
   7. 00:32:271 (1,2,3) - All sliders should be snapped to 1/3.
   8. 00:34:271 (3,4) - Same as 00:30:937 (1,2) - .
      
      -Yuzuriha's Insane
   9. 00:07:082 (1) - End should be snapped to 1/3.
   10. 00:16:937 (3,4) - , 00:22:271 (3,4) - , 00:27:604 (3,4) - Should be snapped to 1/2.
   11. 00:15:604 (3) - Should be 1/2.
   12. 00:23:604 (3) - ^
   13. 00:24:271 (1) - ^
   14. 00:30:826 (5) - ^
   15. 00:50:604 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1/2 (or 3/4 with soft-sampleset at the tails) would sound much better here as well imo.

1. I'm not sure if it's just me but it would be quite nice to see the first combo color a bit brighter to see the difference to the third one better. Example
   

   [Colours]
   Combo1 : 6,140,185
   Combo2 : 181,174,175
   Combo3 : 231,0,20
   Combo4 : 87,89,88
   Combo5 : 244,123,132

1. The way the last section has been hitsounded with the drum-sampleset-like claps sound kind of odd. Why didn't you just do it like in the Insane?
2. 00:01:482 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'd recommend you to use curved Sliders here instead of these red anchor ones to follow this calm and quiet atmosphere of the song much better.
3. 00:26:937 (3) - How about moving this higher to get a kind of wave-ish movement? That would play pretty nice if you ask me.
4. 00:30:937 - The volume in this section is like very very low. Please raise it by at least 20% and also place claps like you did in the Insane. As it is now, the part feels really quiet and can't represent the drums at all.
5. 00:33:604 (1,3) - These two don't really fit each other in my opinion. How about using such a CTRL+G|H pattern?
6. 00:36:271 - Again in this section these red anchor sliders like 00:37:271 (3) - , 00:43:270 (2) - and 00:48:270 (1,2) - for instance don't fit this soft violin imo. For 00:43:270 (2) - for example a wave would fit well if you ask me.
7. 00:48:270 (1) - Why is the end so short? The Slider doesn't really fit here imo and even if it might be a personal preference, something like this would be way smoother.
8. 00:56:936 (4) - The red anchor here is barely visible ingame so why is it even there? Do you want to emphasize something? Otherwise just delete the anchor and go for a linear one.
9. 01:11:603 (2) - It's pretty sad how the red tick in the middle has been ignored here since it's a really strong cymbal and also strong vocals. This would sound much better.
10. 01:16:936 (3,4) - The rhythm here was quite hard to follow for me. Following the strong cymbals like this works well.
11. This could take some improvements in terms of these red anchor Sliders.

1. 00:16:937 (3,4) - Didn't you use gaps for 1/3 before? Looks kind of inconsistent to me. Trying this would clean it up and make it consistent.
2. 00:28:271 (1,2) - /Minor/ - Consistent 1/1 Spacing would be much cooler here.
3. 00:29:604 (4,5,6,1) - I usually like such patterns but I didn't really enjoy playing it here. This would play much smoother imo.
4. 00:35:604 (1,2,3) - What happened to the DS here? Also the giant jump between 00:36:049 (3,1) - is kind of sudden.
5. 00:40:937 (4,5,6) - Do you try to follow the vocals with this triplet? I'm quite unsure if they even hit the blue tick. A 1/2 Slider would sound much better in my ears.
6. 00:43:270 (1,2,3,1) - Maybe it's just me but these are placed somewhat weird. Relocating it as a kind of square or triangle would be nice.
7. 00:54:270 (1) - Might be a personal preference but the shape could be improved a lot by smoothening out the curves.
8. 00:59:436 (4) - Why is there a bigger jump to this note? The vocals on the following one are much more emphasized so that a jump to them would make more sense imo.
9. 01:00:936 (3,4) - Perhaps it's just me but it would be nice to see those jumps a bit toned down as it's the easiest Insane. Stacking 4 with 01:00:603 (2) - 's tail would work.
10. 01:01:269 (5) - There's a pretty strong cymbal on the red tick this ends on that would be much more natural as a clickable action. Either using two circles or CTRL+G'ing 01:01:103 (4,5) - rhythm-wise would work.
11. 01:03:269 (2,3) - The stack here kinda kills the the momentum. Unstacking them would continue the flow from the previous objects and with that make it play more natural.
12. 01:04:936 (3,4,5,6) - Shortening the Spacing would be much better here to aim this. Keep in mind it's your easiest Insane difficulty.
13. 01:09:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Unsure if it's just me but reducing the spacing could make this more enjoyable to aim. Nothing you have to apply though.
14. 01:10:435 (9,1) - The stream to anit-jump may be kind of confusing to play. Having a bigger spacing to 1 would improve the readability a lot.
15. 01:13:269 (6) - Why is there a finish on the tail?
16. The diff can take some more professional mods to be improved :/

1. 00:11:862 (3,4) - What are you following with the tails? The pressure isn't needed here and there are also some quiet drum sounds. 1/2 would sound much better.
2. 00:15:604 (3) - /Minor/ - Blanket with 00:16:271 (1) - looks pretty poor. It can be easily improved like this. I'd also like to mention the overlap with 00:14:938 (1,3) - which looks a bit out of place here imo, but if you want to keep it, it should be fine.
3. 00:16:604 (2,3) - What happened to the spacing?
4. 00:28:771 (2,3) - It would be nice to see these unstacked as all the others here were 1/3 which made me feel weird at clicking this making me almost click it like 1/3 lol
5. 00:31:271 (2) - The rhythm is pretty weird to follow because you left out the strong drum at 00:31:382 - which is at least for me the most emphasized and with that the most important note here. This would be much better if you ask me. (Additionally removing 00:31:937 (4) - would emphasize the stronger drum note afterwards as well)
6. 00:35:160 (2,3) - This might be just me but this was pretty hard to follow as the other 2/3 gaps here had much bigger spacing. A diamond would work well.
7. 00:57:436 (7,8,1) - Stacking this with 00:56:103 (1) - 's head like this would even out the pattern in order to fit 00:56:769 (3,6) - better.
8. 01:02:603 (5) - The extension here doesn't really fit that well in my opinion. Decreasing its length by 1/4 would help. If you don't want this, put soft-sampleset at the tail to get rid of that overdone sound there.
9. 01:09:269 (1,2,3) - What is this? There's nothing on the blue tick 1 is ending on and 2|3 are kinda out of place as well. Try this for a much more natural rhythm.
10. 01:19:436 (1,2,3) - Having the same DS visually between the notes but different gaps in time doesn't really make sense to me and may be confusing as well. Having a more clear spacing could improve this by a lot. (Applies for the following ones as well)
11. 01:25:603 (1,2,3,4) - Why is the DS between the Sliders itself so different? The music is pretty much the same. Also the very small spacing to 4 really slows me down while playing this. Trying something like this here would play much more fluent. (Applies for the following ones as well)

Cherry Blossom wrote:

rip incoming.

guineaQ wrote:

On a more helpful note, Aerous I'll be willing to do that same aesthetic polishing mod I did for your easy again if you wish to.

Just send me a pm after you polish out the rhythm as Mao suggested.