1. Insane (5.34 stars, 750 notes)
2. Kysteria's Hard (3.35 stars, 597 notes)
3. Normal (2.21 stars, 336 notes)

Avishay wrote:

SPOILER

2014-03-10 13:07 Avishay: First of all, please name it Insane
Done.
2014-03-10 13:09 Avishay: Okay, in the timing section, lower the sound for at least 30~40% and make an inhertied point if you want to increase the volume in some point (this is just for hitsounds)
Done.
2014-03-10 13:10 Avishay: Also the AIMod (ctrl+shift+a) is mentioning that at 00:22:895 (1,1,1) - they stack on each other and please refrain from doing it, make at least 1/4 space beteween each other
Also done.
2014-03-10 13:23 Avishay: 00:19:541 (1) - I don't see a reason for NC here, it is the audio pattern like before and you decided to NC here while in the other parts you didn't
I've changed the combos of this section to match the combos of the very similar section before it.
2014-03-10 13:24 Avishay: 00:27:367 (3,1) - They overlap in an ugly way.. either make the curves stack or move it and make the overlap neat
2014-03-10 13:25 Avishay: like this for example:
2014-03-10 13:25 Avishay: http://puu.sh/7q1ZZ.jpg
It now looks kind of similar to the slider you linked.
2014-03-10 13:29 Avishay: 00:44:696 (1,2) - They're not the exact same (CTRL + H to see), I don't think it is on purpose
Fixed. Turns out what had happened was one was a 90 degree rotation of the other that looked very similar to a mirror image...
2014-03-10 13:40 Avishay: 01:46:373 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - small tweak I suggest here is for each combo, make the volume higher
I really like this idea and I added it in.
2014-03-10 13:30 Avishay: 01:02:957 (3) - NC here
2014-03-10 13:30 Avishay: 01:03:143 (1) - remove NC here
Done.
2014-03-10 13:48 Avishay: also, I just noticed, there is no preview point and kiai time
Added in both difficulties.
2014-03-10 13:33 Avishay: 01:05:379 (5) - this is unnecessary note
I'm sorry but I still disagree with this, there are definitely 5 notes there.
2014-03-10 13:27 Avishay: 00:35:379 (2,3,4,5) - to make a better pattern I suggest moving 4 a bit lower to x:240 y:152 (look at the right top panel to see cordinates and change them if necessary)
2014-03-10 13:27 Avishay: the pattern I mentioned is flowing nicely with the previous slider
I don't like this, it hides 4 behind the slider and is confusing. I did however notice that 5 was a little misaligned and adjusted it a little.
2014-03-10 13:28 Avishay: 00:37:988 (1) - this starts mid beat and it is really confusing (yeah that's the song) I suggest making 00:37:429 (9) - a slider and extending it until00:37:801
As you said it matches the song, if you read the hit circles then there's no problem.
2014-03-10 13:42 Avishay: 02:07:429 (1) - same for what I mentioned before as well, you can make 9 a slider
See above.
2014-03-10 13:16 Avishay: 00:08:349 (4) - what about making it a slider and extending it until 00:09:094? If you are going to do it then make the SV here really low
Sorry but I feel like this really doesn't match the song
2014-03-10 13:21 Avishay: 00:13:951 (3,4) - the spacing between them is too smal and this is really frustrating, and all of this part has huge spacing so simply make 4 farther away
This one honestly doesn't bother me either way so I've moved that circle to the centre which I think gives what you were after.
2014-03-10 13:22 Avishay: 00:16:932 (1,2) - same like before ^
See above.
2014-03-10 13:21 Avishay: A small note from me: maybe don't stack all of the 3-stream notes, I specifically don't like that pattern that much but it is up to you
I don't see any issue with it and I'd rather have them stacked than in a messy unstacked triple for no reason
2014-03-10 13:32 Avishay: 01:04:634 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this is rather boring and not fun, I suggest making jump here and there, I will give you an example in a second
2014-03-10 13:36 Avishay: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/225657 Tsukasa - Music of the Spheres]
2014-03-10 13:36 Avishay: take a look at Frostmourne's Lunatic here
I don't personally think it's boring, but anyway, I took a look at the map you suggested and I can see what you're referring to but I get the impression that the patterns he uses are more suitable in that map because the song is continuous. Mine has breaks in between and I feel that if I used those sort of patterns it'd be extremely confusing. I haven't changed it for now but if another modder complains about the same thing too, then I'll see if I can change it
2014-03-10 13:37 Avishay: 01:11:342 (3,4) - what about CTRL + G for each one of them so it will flow nicely with the previous sliders?
I tried both ways a few times each but it feels a bit too easy with them all like that in my opinion
2014-03-10 13:44 Avishay: 02:28:112 (1,2,3,4) - um instead of making a jump, stack them, I don't think the player will be ready for 1/3 jumps
I agree that it's a bit sudden so I've stacked them as you said
2014-03-10 13:44 Avishay: same for the square afterwards, I think it is too hard
I've nerfed the distance a large amount
2014-03-10 13:51 Avishay: 03:55:317 (1) - there is a vocal changing at 03:56:062 so you may want to change something here
I don't actually understand what you meant here?
2014-03-10 13:50 Avishay: 03:32:584 (1,1) - stacking spinners again
Fixed.
2014-03-10 13:50 Avishay: um I think there are too many breaks in this diff, so consider mapping some of them
Remember that the song is very long - almost 5 minutes. Most of the breaks (of which there are six) are 5 seconds or less (there are two that are about 10 seconds). At the points where there are breaks there is kind of a break in the song too, so it's a good place to have a break in my opinion. If it comes down to a submission rules issue then I guess I'd have to change it, but if it's just personal preference I'd rather not.
2014-03-10 13:15 Avishay: 00:06:489 (1,3) - I think the Slider Velocity (SV) is a bit too high here, it just moves too fast in a non regular shape in the calm part
I feel like it's good preparation for the next part to have it fast, otherwise it might be too sudden. Again if other modders complain as well then I will change it, but for now I've left it
2014-03-10 13:50 Avishay: 03:12:460 (2,3,4) - I think you can make the spacing here bigger
It's intentionally like that (low spacing) because it's a very calm part
2014-03-10 13:53 Avishay: 04:31:839 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1 making all of the other sliders start in mid beat, which I think isn't good
I tried changing this one by making a circle after 1 and then having sliders, but that actually made it worse and I ended up changing it back. I don't think it's really a big deal because it still fits well
2014-03-10 13:47 Avishay: 03:03:888 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern doesn't feel me right here, try to make something more fun to play
I've made them splay outwards like some of the ones earlier in the map.

Ok, I left the two harder ones for last:

2014-03-10 13:26 Avishay: 00:33:329 (3) - I am not sure if this is rankable, it was discussed that mid changing the slider speed is bad, but if the speed is slightly changes then no worries, either make the last part a bit slower (more red points) or change it somehow
2014-03-10 13:41 Avishay: 02:02:770 (3) - same as the slider I mentioned before
Yeah what you said is supposedly true (a silly rule in my opinion, since I wasn't completely abusing it like the cases they're obviously trying to stop, which could have been stopped by careful modding). I've added extra red points to the end to sort of "keep it slow" but it does, of course, look a lot uglier now.

And then we have these things which all go together:

2014-03-10 13:38 Avishay: 01:17:305 (3,4) - this was almost impossible to read at AR8, I suggested you to change the map to AR9 but I also suggest tweaking it like that
2014-03-10 13:39 Avishay: http://puu.sh/7q2tW.jpg
2014-03-10 13:42 Avishay: 02:07:429 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - for this part, since this is AR8, the fact that they stack is so annoying, if you are going to stack something on the same place, move it a bit into other direction so it will be nicer to read
2014-03-10 13:45 Avishay: 02:48:236 (3,4) - CTRL + G each one of them and move them closer to the center, will make a better pattern with the previous sliders
2014-03-10 13:46 Avishay: 03:00:907 (1,2,3,4) - confusing with AR8 again
2014-03-10 13:46 Avishay: 03:02:398 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - really confusing with AR8 as well
2014-03-10 13:52 Avishay: 04:13:950 (1,2,3,4) -
2014-03-10 13:52 blahpy: lol
2014-03-10 13:53 Avishay: 04:26:249 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - this is why I hate AR8
2014-03-10 13:07 Avishay: Increase OD to 7 and AR to 9 should make it feel better

In the case of the stacked sliders I've sort of unstacked them (like this: http://i.imgur.com/2Ahrx4G.png) so that it's obvious that there is another slider there. I'd also like to point out that the song is no easier to read with AR9 than it is with AR8 - perhaps (and I'm not trying to be rude here) you're just too used to playing AR9 maps? I modified the one that you called "this is why I hate AR8" slightly so that the central circle moves upwards making it both more readable and a bit more challenging. The other things that are "hard to read" that I haven't already mentioned (honestly they're really not that bad), I have left the same. I will not be increasing the settings to AR9 OD7.

1. Check distance snapping. Uneven snapping occurs a lot of times in the map. A particular section is 00:37:801 - 00:46:746. Of course this excludes objects with long time gaps.
2. 00:00:536 (1,2,3) - 90 degrees feels too bland here. Maybe change into roughly something like this? http://puu.sh/7reTb.jpg (just don't let 1-end, slider 2, and 3-start align at x: 256.) (I made something like this http://puu.sh/7reYH.jpg )
3. 00:21:031 - Add note?
4. 00:22:522 - ^
5. 00:29:416 (2) - (Nazi) I would align this with the slider, like this http://puu.sh/7rf58.jpg
6. 00:33:329 (3) - (Nazi) Blanket can be better. (Something like http://puu.sh/7rfaq.jpg )
7. 01:04:261 (3) - Change to nonrepeating slider (End at 01:04:634 - serves to fill this time point.)
8. 01:21:404 (3) - Too difficult for Normal?
9. 01:34:820 (1,1,2) - I prefer long sliders in place of repeating sliders. Also, spacing. (If changed, please do the same to the similar patterns at last kiai.)
10. 01:52:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ (Maybe...)
11. 01:59:044 - 02:01:093 - Why not map this? (Same goes for 02:05:006 - 02:07:056 - )
12. 02:50:473 (1) - [Nazi] Too boring imo. Split to two sliders or two sliders and a circle or... whatever.
13. 02:52:336 (2) - Same as 01:21:404 (3)
14. 03:35:752 (1,2,3,4,5) - Probably too difficult to read? Ask other modders about this. (Personally I don't like this stack.)
15. 04:12:833 (3) - This again o.o

Eyenine wrote:

Yo.
From my modding queue (title is a lie)
Mods are just suggestions. Feel free to ignore if you don't like.

As requested (implicitly?), I mod only Normal. (This is feeding my laziness o.o)

[Normal]

1. Check distance snapping. Uneven snapping occurs a lot of times in the map. A particular section is 00:37:801 - 00:46:746. Of course this excludes objects with long time gaps.I think all distance snaps are correct now. I definitely fixed a lot of them.
2. 00:00:536 (1,2,3) - 90 degrees feels too bland here. Maybe change into roughly something like this? http://puu.sh/7reTb.jpg (just don't let 1-end, slider 2, and 3-start align at x: 256.) (I made something like this http://puu.sh/7reYH.jpg )
   Changed!
3. 00:21:031 - Add note?
4. 00:22:522 - ^
   I added both!
5. 00:29:416 (2) - (Nazi) I would align this with the slider, like this http://puu.sh/7rf58.jpg
   It looks better! Changed.
6. 00:33:329 (3) - (Nazi) Blanket can be better. (Something like http://puu.sh/7rfaq.jpg )
   I made it look better, at least I think so anwyay
7. 01:04:261 (3) - Change to nonrepeating slider (End at 01:04:634 - serves to fill this time point.)
   I changed!
8. 01:21:404 (3) - Too difficult for Normal?
   I don't think it's difficult but if you have a better suggestion please tell me!
9. 01:34:820 (1,1,2) - I prefer long sliders in place of repeating sliders. Also, spacing. (If changed, please do the same to the similar patterns at last kiai.)
   I fixed spacing but left repeating sliders for now. I also fixed spacing in last kiai.
10. 01:52:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ (Maybe...)
    I'm not sure what you're meaning by this
11. 01:59:044 - 02:01:093 - Why not map this? (Same goes for 02:05:006 - 02:07:056 - )
    Ok!
12. 02:50:473 (1) - [Nazi] Too boring imo. Split to two sliders or two sliders and a circle or... whatever.
    Done!
13. 02:52:336 (2) - Same as 01:21:404 (3)
    .
14. 03:35:752 (1,2,3,4,5) - Probably too difficult to read? Ask other modders about this. (Personally I don't like this stack.)
    Ok, I will leave for now
15. 04:12:833 (3) - This again o.o
    .

The map, well, need some rhythm tweaks imo. Uneven spacing is also much of an issue. You may need to remap some parts of the map. I commend the patterns you used here, though.
I suggest you make a Hard because the difficulty jump between Normal and Insane is just too much.
Good luck~

pishifat wrote:

hai, i just decided to mod the insane here because the jumps are cool, so... enjoy a free mod

General
- gonna need another difficulty. it's required to have at least 2 difficulties that are below insane diff, so make an easy or a hard and you'll be good
04:37:801 you might want to end the kiai time here, but it's not necessary
I'll add another difficulty at some point yeah. I changed kiai to how you said in both difficulties.

Insane
00:13:745 (1,2,3) these three notes should be evenly spaced, but because of the bpm change you have it slightly off. if you start the bpm change 4 white ticks earlier (near the large white tick) it should fit correctly (or think of another way to fix it)
Not sure what happened here, for some reason (3) is able to snap to a place on the timeline where it shouldn't. I've fixed it now, good done for noticing it!
00:27:367 (3) that slider really doesn't look very good -- this may be useful: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/37194
00:28:857 (1) ^
I think what you're getting at is them being not very smooth curves so I've made them smoother. I didn't personally have a problem with them before but maybe I just have bad taste so I changed them
00:44:696 (1,2) this will probably seem stupid, but these two sliders are angled slightly up while you're supposed to go straight across from (1) to (2). doing something like this to both notes would make it better:

it's a gif woo

That doesn't seem stupid at all, you're right and I've changed it like your gif!
00:59:416 (1) dat slider. either change it to something else or make it look way better, cuz right now it's a scribble -- (2) after it also seems poorly placed, but that's just me
I tried to make a nicer slider, I had this great slider that took me hours to make: http://i.imgur.com/fFVSfOG.png
But I couldn't get it to look nice at the right length...
At the moment "scribble" slider is still there...
01:39:665 (7) seems really out of place here. if you just moved it somewhere else so it fits with the rest of the symmetrical stuff that would be good
I disagree with this one sorry
01:51:963 (6) i think it might be better to keep the spacing consistent with (4) and (5) here
Okay, I've changed.
01:58:808 (3) another not so great slider :/
I changed to nice spiral
02:24:261 (5) this note's not in the song so it probably shouldn't be included
Okay, I removed it
03:15:814 (4) slider also doesn't look too great (sorry about all teh slider issues)
Changed it
Don't worry about it, I think some more probably will need changing too
04:22:895 to 04:25:690 - nothing to fix here, you're just an evil person
lol
That part isn't the hard part, it's the bit after!
04:32:398 (2) add a new combo here to indicate the (sort of) slider velocity change
Is it really necessary? I don't think it is

there's also a lot of places that could use better stacking. a lot. what i mean is putting both of these circles on top of each other:

nsfw

it doesn't bother me much, but a lot of people get butthurt about bad stacking and you'll definitely get some mentions of it in future mods

that's it. gl on the map