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NaomiMinette

NessuDessu wrote:

:? I only have the Super Smash Demo.... WAGHHH When do you guys think the SBB4 fever would die down so that I can buy it at a not "sold out" store?
Whenever the Wii U version comes out. (No, I'm not kidding.)
Lanturn
Last I heard the eShop has infinite supply, but I could just be going crazy.

I really want a N3DS now by the way ;_;
NessuDessu
Thanks for your advice, I guess I'll just wait until I save enough money or whenever... :(
NaomiMinette
I'll admit I forgot about the eShop as of my last post, but the fever... well... Let's just wait and see what the Wii U-specific modes are.
NessuDessu
I am willing to wait for a while,but for now I can just watch my friend play.... I also am surprised that Duck Hunt was included and excited that Ness was in SSBB4.
D33d
I finally have a 3DS and the new Smash, so if anyone fancies giving me some company, hit me up.
Topic Starter
Birdy
Quick poll:
Top 3 fighters?
Top 3 items?
Thoughts on Smash Run?
NaomiMinette
1) Lucario, Toon Link, and Dr. Mario
2) Master Ball, Ore Club, and Galaga Ships
3) Needs online multiplayer
Jarby
Top 3 fighters: Peach, Sheik and Villager.
Top 3 items: NO ITEMS ALLOWED (X bomb, bullet bill and the gust bellows are cool though)
Smash run thoughts: Probably won't play it once I unlock everything. Maybe it's better in multiplayer?
Topic Starter
Birdy

Jarby wrote:

Smash run thoughts: Probably won't play it once I unlock everything. Maybe it's better in multiplayer?
Yeah, it's kind of more fun in multiplayer, but then again everything is more fun in multiplayer. I kind of really like the mode either way.

My top 3 fighters would be Rosalina, Kirby and either Zero-Suit Samus or Shulk, and items would be Home-Run Bat, Ore Club and Beam Sword.

X Bomb indeed is fun, and Pokémon balls have always been a nice touch which makes Master Ball even cooler. For some reason, I feel like there's less variation for Pokémon and Master Ball Pokémon in this game, which has made it less exciting for me every time either of the balls appear. Not sure if that's just a gut feeling or if they've really cut down the palette of choices.
Norbi
Top 3 fighters: Zelda, Greninja, Pac-Man (I'd like to add Fox here as well, he was one of my mains since the very first Smash Bros. game. He still is at some point.)
Top 3 items: I'm not really an item player, but... Master Ball, Home-Run Bat and X Bomb.

Smash Run is fun, but probably would be better in multiplayer. Didn't have a chance to play with any of my local friends yet, totally needs online.
NoHitter
Fighters: Ness, Villager, Toon Link
Items: Same, I don't really play with items. On the top of my head though: Masterball, Smartbomb and Hammer
No idea what to comment amount Smash Run yet.
Professor Prinny
Top 3 Fighters: Robin, Ike, Shulk

Top 3 Items: Home-Run Bat, Ore Club and the Master Ball

As for Smash Run, I feel like 5 minutes collecting stuff is too long but overall it's enjoyable seeing your character so buffed up and blitzing across the map.
Lanturn
Top 3 Fighters: Peach / Jiggs / Iggy

Top 3 Items: Turnip, Mechakoopa, Bob-omb.. All I really play is for glory, and you can pick up all of these items through it :D

Smash Run: The events at the end are too short. ;_;
NaomiMinette
_Arzo_
Lanturn
Stream starts in an hour for the 50 facts about the Wii U version.

http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo

Let's hope we get the DLC everyone wants and more info about the leaked board game & stage creator modes.
Professor Prinny
Well that stream was satisfying.
NaomiMinette
Dammit... Aside from Mewtwo, all the other exclusive stuff is really nice, too (particularly Smash Tour...

...Eh, take my money, Nintendo >.>
Lanturn
Money has been taken.

Xander Mobus (Name of the announcer in smash bros and the video) was great.

Loved the Jr. / Koopalings video as well. Hopefully we get a cool Duck Hunt one too :D

Also. I'm glad we got DLC announced.. Opens up a lot more possibilities in the future :)
NaomiMinette
Makes me wonder what treatment the 3DS version will get once the Wii U version comes out, because it's gonna be really hard for me to go back to... well... the 3DS version.

Anyway, here's the video for those who missed the livestream:

Professor Prinny
"Someday... When I'm bigger... I wanna fight that Mario again!" - Bowser Jr. (Super Mario Sunshine)
NaomiMinette
Except he already did (to some extent) in Mario Kart 8 :P (but that's for another thread)

Anyway, I'm definitely gonna get an amiibo now (not just for this game, for the record).
Jindujun93
The one issue that I have though is that apparently you NEED to buy both versions to actually be able to download Mewtwo from what I've read. Mind you that I only read a summary and didn't watch the stream, but I'm trusting the summary for now. Oh dear...
NaomiMinette
SPOILER
There's probably gonna be an option where you don't need to buy both but will have to pay for a DLC pack or something when more characters come out. Just a guess.
La Volpe

Blazevoir wrote:

Makes me wonder what treatment the 3DS version will get once the Wii U version comes out, because it's gonna be really hard for me to go back to... well... the 3DS version.

Anyway, here's the video for those who missed the livestream:

@ 6:59 "Hey it's princess Peach" "Guess she's taking a break from getting kidnapped." Lmfao made my night. Also the 8 players mode is interesting but i'm scared to play it online because of lantency issues.
Professor Prinny

La Volpe wrote:

Also the 8 players mode is interesting but i'm scared to play it online because of lantency issues.
They mentioned 8 Player Smash isn't available for online so you won't need to worry about it.
La Volpe

Professor Prinny wrote:

La Volpe wrote:

Also the 8 players mode is interesting but i'm scared to play it online because of lantency issues.
They mentioned 8 Player Smash isn't available for online so you won't need to worry about it.
Oh, thats good to hear then, sorry for not paying attention then. :p
Stefan
MEWTWO MEWTWO MEWTWO

/hypeoff
Topic Starter
Birdy
Nwolf
DLC confirmed = Ice Climbers and Wolf confirmed for the future






and HL3
Jindujun93

Nwolf wrote:

DLC confirmed = Ice Climbers and Wolf confirmed for the future

and HL3
Ice Climbers? Probably not, since they want to have the same roster for both games, and Sakurai already said that the Ice Climbers wouldn't work on the 3DS. So it only makes sense for them not to appear as a DLC either.
I don't really care about Wolf (heck, I don't even care about Mewtwo either, I'd rather prefer Isaac from Golden Sun. Even 5 slots for Pokemon was already too much in my opinion...), but he along with Lucas -might- be options.
NaomiMinette
Lucas might be a no-go since Ness' alternate Specials already use his moveset.
Topic Starter
Birdy

Nwolf wrote:

and HL3
Don't bring Valve in this shit.

I hope Wolf and Lucas are both no-gos. People are waiting for them too much from what I've seen. Also Pokémon Trainer.

Also please replace Lucario with Blaziken for the Wii U version, thanks.
NaomiMinette
You already know they won't do that to Lucario.

Anyway, here is the full list of things that were announced yesterday in case you don't wanna either watch the whole video or recap what was said.
Topic Starter
Birdy
I know. I know. I'm just way less excited about Mewtwo now that Lucario is a sure choice.
Nwolf
so people wanting them = nintendo should add a totally different character


makes sense
Topic Starter
Birdy
I dunno.

Would be cool to see the developers and directors to take the players' opinions in account for once.
NaomiMinette
Stefan

Blazevoir wrote:

But isn't that how we got Mewtwo...?

Charizard = me

literally
NaomiMinette
You and me both /o/
Topic Starter
Birdy
Don't leave me out, now. Don't get me wrong, either.
NaomiMinette
So I found this extremely hilarious: even if you get a squeaky Golden Hammer, if someone gets sent flying and you hit them with said hammer, the KO goes to you instead /o/ Not sure if this was ever since Brawl, but I just recently experienced that.
Jindujun93
Is it just me, or is the Pikachu / Mr. Game and Watch combo in team battles kind of broken? Have been falling victim to it quite a bit recently.
NoHitter

Jindujun93 wrote:

Is it just me, or is the Pikachu / Mr. Game and Watch combo in team battles kind of broken? Have been falling victim to it quite a bit recently.
Elaborate on this combo? I usually play 1 on 1 so it's the first I've heard of it.
Bara-

Blazevoir wrote:

So I found this extremely hilarious: even if you get a squeaky Golden Hammer, if someone gets sent flying and you hit them with said hammer, the KO goes to you instead /o/ Not sure if this was ever since Brawl, but I just recently experienced that.
So far, with 30 hours of battles, I haven't seen a single squeaky hammer
Also no broken normal hammer
Jindujun93

NoHitter wrote:

Jindujun93 wrote:

Is it just me, or is the Pikachu / Mr. Game and Watch combo in team battles kind of broken? Have been falling victim to it quite a bit recently.
Elaborate on this combo? I usually play 1 on 1 so it's the first I've heard of it.
In particular, it's about the fact that one Thunder from Pikachu is enough to completely fill Mr. Game and Watch's bucket, which in itself gets you KOs very easily (naturally, you'd have to play with rules that allow you to hurt your teammates). To see it in action, I recommend this video.

Also, while not related to this combo, I just found this little gem of a glitch.
NaomiMinette

baraatje123 wrote:

So far, with 30 hours of battles, I haven't seen a single squeaky hammer
Also no broken normal hammer
I've gotten squeaky Golden Hammers a few times and broken normal Hammers several times, though I usually play 30/60 minute matches, so...

EDIT: There's an update that supposedly balances the game, but I wonder if characters were affected.

EDIT 2: North Americans can get three posters from Club Nintendo.
Justykanna
Finally got around to playing for a bit today. Really enjoying the game - after getting used to the controls.
Don't have everyone unlocked yet, but my favourites are probably:
-Toon Link: Feels the same as before for the most part. Seems to recover from his throw a little quicker.
-Falco: His front-B and B feels like it goes a shorter distance, which annoys me a little.
-Kirby: Love him. Still not a fan of his front-B but that just means one less move to use.

Still haven't unlocked Ganandorf so I haven't been able to try him... looking forward to him and Lucina.
NaomiMinette
They partly gave his default Neutral B super armor.
Justykanna

Blazevoir wrote:

They partly gave his default Neutral B super armor.
Whose and... what's super armor? lol. I know close to no Smash-terminology.
NaomiMinette
Ganondorf.

Super Armor is a state in which your character can't flinch/get sent flying from any attack (Giga Bowser and Mega Lucario are perfect examples of this). The fact that Warlock Punch (Ganondorf's default Neutral B) is already so powerful is just... yeah...

The reason why I say partly is because that attack can still be interrupted.

EDIT: Interview with the announcer (LOUD INTRO WARNING!):

Justykanna

Blazevoir wrote:

Ganondorf.

Super Armor is a state in which your character can't flinch/get sent flying from any attack (Giga Bowser and Mega Lucario are perfect examples of this). The fact that Warlock Punch (Ganondorf's default Neutral B) is already so powerful is just... yeah...

The reason why I say partly is because that attack can still be interrupted.
Oh. Neat! I like! xD
NaomiMinette
Topic Starter
Birdy
"Collected every type of custom outfit! Your body is ready!"

I'm dying.
NaomiMinette
I saw that in a Nintendo Life article. Too bad those are just as annoying to get (if not, worse) than the custom specials >_>
Topic Starter
Birdy
Having played Online for the first time now, I need to say that I'm really sad about Online being absolutely broken. I wish it worked.
NaomiMinette

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Having played Online for the first time now, I need to say that I'm really sad about Online being absolutely broken. I wish it worked.
It works, it just depends on the players' internet connections.

EDIT: Something that happened yesterday with one of my friends:



Click here if you don't get what's going on
Apparently if Wario uses his default Down Special (probably might work with the customs as well) AFTER being attacked/tossed, the game counts it as being launched by another player.

My friend and I literally laughed our sides off after this happened XD
Topic Starter
Birdy
I somehow got a score of 176k in Smash Run (with Rosalina, btw).

I'M PROUD OF SOMETHING I'VE DONE IN THIS GAME FOR ONCE.

Also, has anyone finished Classic with Difficulty 9? Also what in the world does "Clear Classic with difficulty 9.0 or higher" mean?
Azure_Kite
Smash Bros 4 DLC is coming out increasing the Risk meter to 12.

(Not really, I'm sure we would all die.)
NaomiMinette
I managed to beat it at 9.0 with Lucario after fighting at the lower Intensities and all phases of Master Core so much. Honestly, most--if not, a majority--of the attack patterns are predictable once you've seen them all.

EDIT: SSB 3DS Themes (Japan-only at the moment):


I actually like the 4th one's appearance, but the music and SFX for it ruin it for me :/ I'll probably get the 1st (if/when these come out overseas), though.
Justykanna

Justykanna wrote:

Finally got around to playing for a bit today. Really enjoying the game - after getting used to the controls.
Don't have everyone unlocked yet, but my favourites are probably:
-Toon Link: Feels the same as before for the most part. Seems to recover from his throw a little quicker.
-Falco: His front-B and B feels like it goes a shorter distance, which annoys me a little.
-Kirby: Love him. Still not a fan of his front-B but that just means one less move to use.

Still haven't unlocked Ganandorf so I haven't been able to try him... looking forward to him and Lucina.
Played a lot in the past week.
-Falco: I feel like his smash is really sluggish... When I see an opportunity for a kill, it's just too slow to act.
-Lucina: Probably my favourite since I unlocked her. I don't like that her aerial attacks (aside her down-A) have close to no punch to them though.
-Ness: I actually like how he plays now. All three of his smash attacks have more kick to them for sure (though his front-A has a short reach). Just have to get used to the fact that his PK Thunder doesn't turn the same way as Lucas' did from Brawl... because that's what I'm used to!
-Charizard: Am I the only one who keeps using his Front-B when I want his Down-B? I've flown right off the edge more than once using it when I wanted Down-B. >_>
NaomiMinette
Topic Starter
Birdy
Just a quick, uninteresting thing here, don't mind me.

Took me exactly 180 final battles to "fight in every type of Smash Run final battle". Didn't know that was considered a milestone before receiving it, but damn.

Did You Know?: That's 15 hours of Smash Run, not counting the final battles which most of the time last exactly a minute. Which would be around 3 hours more.

Lovely. Incredible. Ridiculous. The More You Know.

I should move to Classic and Stadium modes.
NaomiMinette
I'm really annoyed there isn't an option to pick which type of final battle you want similar to one of the hidden options in Kirby Air Ride's City Trial ._.

EDIT: Well... I know which track I'm picking for FD from now on (aside from Brawl's original FD):



EDIT 2: To anyone planning to download SSB Wii U, please read this.
Trash Boat
17 GB what the...?
NaomiMinette
Don't forget that SSBB went way over the limit to the point where they had to use a dual-layered disc. Also, considering the amount of content over all the past games and even the 3DS version PLUS the fact that it'll be all in HD, I'm not surprised about the size.
NessuDessu
AWWW YEAH NOW I GOT THE NEW SMAAAASHHHHHHHHHH ONE OF THE LAST 2 COPIES AT TARGET WHEEEEESNAAAWWW. I got it a while ago.... ahhahah Anyone wanna play sometime? I might have slow internet or something..... ahahha :lol:
Topic Starter
Birdy
I do have a horrible internet connection, so probably not. Though spectating works just fine.
NaomiMinette
Spectating only uses sever replay data, not live play.
Topic Starter
Birdy
Lol what wow.

That would explain it perfectly.
Trash Boat

Blazevoir wrote:

Don't forget that SSBB went way over the limit to the point where they had to use a dual-layered disc. Also, considering the amount of content over all the past games and even the 3DS version PLUS the fact that it'll be all in HD, I'm not surprised about the size.
oh yeah, now they are using Blurays :P
NaomiMinette
NotEvenDoomMusic

Blazevoir wrote:

http://nintendoeverything.com/little-mac-has-the-lowest-win-ratio-for-smash-bros-3ds-characters-online/
I like how your main role as Little Mac is edgeguarding with your aerials and side b-ing is your best initiation tool.

/sarcasm

The sad part is that amongst those that suicide themselves on For Glory and tilting the chart down; are also pretty good ones that play him like an actual boxer, staying inside the ring and have patience.

I'm glad that Sakurai might consider nerfing his punches down since he's a tad too powerful on the ground and beyond helpless in the air.
While this is the way to play him and the thing that actually defines LM it's too unbalanced for the part that casuals want to try out LM aswell and pretty much get lured/baited out off the stage from his initial sweetspot (which is the center of omega stages)

At least the stages do not have a Battleflied version since that would pretty much makes it one of the worst stages for LM to be on.

Good representation of where LM is useful:
NaomiMinette
Justykanna
My brother uses Little Mac and I can't beat him at all... >_> So annoying.
My characters are too slow! D=
Topic Starter
Birdy
That's probably why I've started using Zero Suit Samus a lot lately.

Rosalina is still #1 bae though, and Kirby is easily the best in Smash Run. Down B spam for the victory.
Justykanna

Static Noise Bird wrote:

That's probably why I've started using Zero Suit Samus a lot lately.
That's another character I don't like fighting. Paralyze forever... -_- Though he doesn't actually use her B all that much.
NaomiMinette
Welp... time to find 7 friends:



EDIT: The 1.04 patched has been released for SSB 3DS. PLEASE remember that:

- You won't be able to connect with those that have 1.03 and older.
- ALL replay data you saved prior to this patch will be completely useless due to character balancing (so naturally, the game can't replicate the old stuff with the new data).

EDIT 2: Some links of interest:

- http://smashboards.com/threads/community-patch-notes-v1-0-4.378404/
- http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-no-premium-smash-bros-dlc-currently-planned-more/
- http://nintendoeverything.com/meta-knight-amiibo-is-exclusive-to-best-buy/
- http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-on-why-mewtwo-isnt-paid-dlc-in-smash-bros-wii-u3ds/
- http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-explains-why-ridley-isnt-a-fighter-in-smash-bros-wii-u3ds/
NessuDessu
I mainly use The Villager but I am better at Ness for the Wii version.... ahahha :lol:
NaomiMinette
http://nintendoeverything.com/lucario-amiibo-is-exclusive-to-toys-r-us/

Gee, thanks Nintendo. Too bad the "nearest" one from where I live is like 1 1/2 hours away, and I can't even order online ._.
NotEvenDoomMusic

Blazevoir wrote:

http://nintendoeverything.com/lucario-amiibo-is-exclusive-to-toys-r-us/
Yeah, there's been reports of Amiibos being exclusive to retailers, it's almost not even funny when you live on the edge of society and the next city is a few miles away.

I mean i understand that Nintendo want to make things more exciting to achieve but figures like Lucario and Shulk's gonna be difficult for people to obtain who doesn't have either Toys'R'Us or Gamestop available nearby.
Those -retailer exclusives- probably are going sell pretty pricey on Ebay/Amazon later since Nintendo said they wanted to run Amiibos on a limited stock as of for now.
Topic Starter
Birdy
We don't even have anything called Best Buy here.

The only Toys R Us is pretty close to where I live, but if you live on the other side of the city, good luck. I don't know how many of those other cities have, though.
NaomiMinette
blackenanan

Blazevoir wrote:

http://nintendoeverything.com/lucario-amiibo-is-exclusive-to-toys-r-us/

Gee, thanks Nintendo. Too bad the "nearest" one from where I live is like 1 1/2 hours away, and I can't even order online ._.
i want the lucario one too :<

this "exclusive" thing is pretty annoying because i never go to toys r us...
NaomiMinette

_sparky_ wrote:

this "exclusive" thing is pretty annoying because i never go to toys r us...
Or Best Buy (and Target, for that matter)... *sigh*
Trash Boat
accord to the website, the Wii U version should be available... (watches clock) right now.
Justykanna
Was facing my brother with Lucario vs Fox the other day... am I the only one who finds it stupid that his (Lucario's) front-B is reflectable? -_-
Topic Starter
Birdy
Yes.
NotEvenDoomMusic
For everyone who has SM4SH WiiU now and consider collecting as many Amiibos as you can:
Lootcrate partners up with Nintendo (or rather the other way around) and created an Amiibo Loot Crate that sends 10 pre-selected figures to all subscirbers.

To quote:

businesswire.com wrote:

By signing up for an “amiibo Subscription Service,” subscribers will receive 10 pre-selected amiibo (including Mario, Pikachu, Donkey Kong, Fox and Yoshi) separated into three special Loot Crate shipments throughout the holiday season without ever having to leave their homes.
<source> <official lootcrate page>

Note that you'll pay a monthly subscription of 30$ per month and they plan on putting around 3 amiibos per crate they send off.
This is already a huge steal for your buck as amiibos run on a limited stock as i earlier mentioned so if the demand is great (which i highly presume given how many peple it targets; collectors, smash-fans and casuals alike) and your luck is high (if you're given one of the limited amiibos) you can save a lot of money while also receiving some other goodies along your amiibos.

With this said; i highly recommend anyone to buy figurines they think will run on a limited production as those will be pretty much rare to obtain later in less than a year from now on

If you're a collector of things it's highly advised to have a look out for amiibos such as Marth, WFT and Villager as those 3 will run on a limited stock.

Nintendo also launched an official amiibo website

Also, is this just an mistake or why is Marth's amiibo page say it's also compatible with Hyrule Warriors?
Edit: Nevermind the page is still pretty early on it's launch so the staff didn't had time to put all the characters in their amiibo specific games, hence all amiibos as of right now are listed compatible for Hyrule Warriors.
NaomiMinette
^ Saw that weeks ago. Not interested in having so many of them I won't really use @ Loot Crate part .
NotEvenDoomMusic
My post was aimed towards everyone here and i know the article/lootcrate thing dates back a few weeks ago and i've seen it on multiple smash-related-boards since aswell.

But i thought the post was highly relevant since SM4SH Wii U just launched for NA officialy and since the majority of the lootcrate subscriptions come from the US it would be a golden opportunity to get the deal going before the rest of the world gets their hands on the game.

Also to 50% relevant; but New Zealand and Australia finally have the benifit of getting their hands on the New Nintendo 3DS (XL) before the rest of the world as it got released today, except Japan who got theirs a month earlier.
Still TBA for NA and EU.
NaomiMinette
Posted that already in the 3DS thread months ago.

Anyway, back to the amiibo: you'd think 3DS support would come out either before or around the same time as the Wii U side. I mean... we had SSB 3DS for how long already yet we're just now getting amiibo, and... yeah... There'd better be some benefit bringing stuff from the Wii U version to the 3DS version.

EDIT: SSB 3DS' current Conquest (dunno about Wii U's side) is Team Omega Ruby (Charizard & Pikachu) vs. Team Alpha Sapphire (Lucario & Greninja) and will only last for four days.
NotEvenDoomMusic

Blazevoir wrote:

you'd think 3DS support would come out either before or around the same time as the Wii U side. I mean... we had SSB 3DS for how long already yet we're just now getting amiibo, and... yeah... There'd better be some benefit bringing stuff from the Wii U version to the 3DS version.
Off-Topic:
I highly doubt Nintendo can change something significant on the 3DS side by using your Wii U in any way.
Mainly because of the hardware limitations and partially because the Wii U is their current gen console runner up and they want to give it more attention to the public as opposed to the 3DS that already sold 45 million units compared to the approximataly 7~ million Wii U's.
They do however, try to merge 3DS sales with the Wii U sales with their attempt of making your 3DS work as a controller on the SM4SH Wii U and have Mewtwo as an promotional DLC if you get both copies of SM4SH.

Releasing Amiibos just support this statement as they focus on trying to make the Wii U sell better than the first few years it initially released.

On-Topic:
However, there's still chances that amiibos made for different games might come in handy for the future of SM4SH.
My thoughts here would be an Wolf amiibo that's coming alongside with Starfox Wii U and that you unlock Wolf with in SM4SH Wii U, that you could transfer it to your SM4SH 3DS.
Or a Roy amiibo for Fire Emblem x Shin Megami Tensei that unlocks Roy with the same principle (unlocks Roy for SM4SH Wii U and then can be ported to the 3DS version).
I mean it's technically not DLC, if they come with the games you buy.

It leaves a lot of options open for the future of both consoles and it's games (namely SM4SH), as Nintendo is trying to slowly make their consoles/hardware respond to eachother more and more, especially since the New 3DS might come in handy in this act.
NaomiMinette
I've learned that doing the following when you're playing alone can raise your amiibo to Level 50:

- Playing 8-Player Smash for 2-2 1/2 hours (do Time or even Coin matches to accurately measure this; as the max limit setting aside from infinite is 99 minutes, you're gonna have to do more than one match)
- Items can be on or off
- You fight on a team with your amiibo
- All (the remaining six slots being) COMs are on Level 9
- Preferred (but not necessarily recommended) team format is 4 vs. 4
- Any stage EXCEPT Palutena's Temple as it's WAY too huge to even try to score KO's quickly (unless you set the Damage Ratio to 2.0 or something)

Of course, you could always do the normal 4-Player Smash, but you'll probably have to play longer. Again, this is assuming you're playing alone.

EDIT: So... this is just plain-out crazy: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/12/weirdness_that_dual_wielding_samus_amiibo_is_worth_usd2500_in_the_mad_world_of_ebay

EDIT 2: This is a serious issue. Please look: http://nintendoeverything.com/some-smas ... u-systems/
Trash Boat

Blazevoir wrote:

EDIT 2: This is a serious issue. Please look: http://nintendoeverything.com/some-smas ... u-systems/
ouch
NaomiMinette
blackenanan

Blazevoir wrote:

Adding on to the error: http://nintendoeverything.com/smash-bros-not-to-blame-for-wii-u-error-code-160-0103/

EDIT: More defective amiibo! http://nintendoeverything.com/defective-peach-amiibo-surfaces-on-ebay/
Oh wow... how does anyone forget legs? it would of been funny if it was like no hair or something
NaomiMinette
Biri Biri

Justykanna wrote:

Was facing my brother with Lucario vs Fox the other day... am I the only one who finds it stupid that his (Lucario's) front-B is reflectable? -_-

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Yes.
I dunno man; seeing as how it's essentially a grab that whiffs outside of it's grabbox range.

Blazevoir wrote:

Jeez... makes me wonder what's going on: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/12/weirdness_defective_fox_and_villager_amiibo_now_appear_on_ebay

EDIT: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/12/rumour_villager_marth_and_wii_fit_trainer_amiibo_discontinued
...Villager Marth. Lol. Not even if I saw it at Nintendo Direct live.
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